Re: KR> Archives
When building my first KR2 back in the 70's, I just loaded my spars and fuse. into my van and drove to the FSDO's office. I walked in and told them I had my parts in my van and would they please come out and check them out and sign them off for me. No problem, I was out of there in about 10 minutes. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> DAR inspections
If push comes to shove, your wife's iron will do the job. I have removed a 4' section from the side by using an iron. (no steam) to heat the plywood over the glue line and then prying up the wood and holding it up for a few seconds to keep it from sticking again when you move on to another area. It took about one hour to remove the side. (about 2' x 4'). Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
KR> Hand propping VW
Joe, somewhere on the net is a drawing of a tail tie down that you can release from the cockpit and take with you. You can pull the chocks, climb into the plane and then release the tail tie down. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Jack Cooper
Jack Cooper is, (was?) a good friend of mine. I have called his home a number of times but got no answer. I have emailed him many times, (again just a couple of days ago), and none were returned as "Not Deliverable" so his email is still current. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> emaiI
I use usfamily.net for my email. There is a checkpoint that will > delete the post you are answering, (check once and it works until you > uncheck it. I highlight what I need and paste it in. I use usfamily for > email only so it only costs 23.88 per year Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Four Day Weekend Vacation?
You are a veteran, you took orders for 20 years. Now you are giving them. Tell them that they go alone..:-) Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Regarding List Etiquette and Replies
Before we get back to the original reason for this list, let me add that my mail server, (usfamily.net) has a option box in the tools folder that if you click on the send file, there is a box to un check that says include message in reply. I have unchecked the box and now copy what parts of the message I want to include in a reply. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> VW Engines
Chris said: its not necessarily cheap but a KR is about as cheap as it gets. and I honestly have concluded that the VW can be acceptably reliable and easy / cheap to maintain. Please fellows, do not degrade the KR. The word to use is, "inexpensive". Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> kr2 airplane
Kelly, Hot water heater in a KR2??? Also, why would you want to heat HOT water? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Requested post
Andrew, No need for a full size model. I made a set of sides for my KR from scrap wood strips. When I get back to it, I'll make a scrap model, full size , from firewall to the seat back. I will then use this model, (no plywood sides), to pre fit everything that goes into the cockpit area. I can fit and drill all necessary holes and all equipment, just reaching through the sides. I can then transfer the items to the "real" fuse without having to stand on my head to get to the places that need attention, ( I went to school on the first KR I built back in the 70's). Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Flight Test Progress
Sid wrote: Also might be an issue with my bifocals. Did I mention my stage II cataracts? Getting old is not for wimps Sid, I'm 80 years old. Had cataracts removed last year. No longer need glasses unless the print is really small or there is not much light. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Firewall Edge Finish
Just be sure that when you file or grind S/S on the firewall, you use a new file or grinding disc. Stainless steel will not rust? It will if you use a file or disc that was used on plain steel or iron. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Todays date
Mark L. It's 11:32 PM on Apr. 1 Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Can this plane be fixed
Oscar got in ahead of me. The first thing I thought of when I saw the tail number was April fools day and had to check to see that Mark didn't post it himself Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Archives
Mark, Can you post Tom's PayPal address when you get it? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> GPASC dual-plug 10mm plugs?
Brian said; It's not normally the plugs that go bad, it is the mag and at that point you just lost all four plugs and things get eerily silent. That big fan in in front of you, that keeps you cool, also stops turning also. You get real sweaty, real fast. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Peter Garrison
I was going by the info on the beacon that you posted. I had read it quite a while ago. I was unaware of the Montana beacons. I do recall catching a right seat ride with a National Guard pilot in a C-45. We started in El Paso, TX and flew to Kansas City. He let me fly while he pointed out which lights to fly to. Of course, when we reached K.C. I got to line up the landing, Me with my SEL and about 50 hours total time. I thought I had it made until about a mile from the runway, he tapped me on the shoulder and said "I have the airplane". At least I had the dream that I was going to get the landing. This was in 1957. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Peter Garrison
Mike T. wrote; I came along too late for the radio ranges, but I've read about them many times in old books and articles. I was around for radio ranges. You can see the antenna in the old movies. It's the little round ring that you see sticking out of the top or bottom of the fuse. This was replaced by the A-N range which sent out four signals in four different directions. If you were flying in the signal beam, you would get a steady tone in the radio. If you drifted off to the right of the center of the beam you would get a dash dot from the radio. If you drifted to the left you would get a dot dash. the main problem with this system is that you could pick up the signal as much as 60 miles away if you were high enough. The spread of the beam was about 3 degrees and at 60 miles out the beam was 3 miles wide and you could fly in a circle and have a steady tone all the way. The omni range came next. Before the Radio range there was a system of light towers across the nation and before that there were large concrete arrows on the ground pointing the way for the Air Mail pilots. All of these systems worked into each other so at one time you had the light towers, the radio range and the A & N system into the fifties and all of them were still working when the first omni ranges came along. Point of interest, there is a light tower on a hill on the East side of Saint Paul, MN downtown airport. It is the only light marker still in operational use. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
I'm fer it, (MV). Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KR Organization
Joe Wallace said; from experience, an ongoing organization must have a solid base and not all responsibility on one or a few? >From experience, and many surveys, I can say that if you have 100 members in a group or club, 10 or less will be the mainstay and do all the work. I guess I can include myself in the 90% along with a whole lot of the rest of us, but it's not so much not wanting to help as it is not having any guidance as to what needs done. Asking for volunteers will not work because 90% of the 90% will figure, someone else will do it. We need a structured leadership that can say what needs to be done and then ask for volunteers with the skill level needed to get the job done. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> bean field landing
Great job in landing, Mark, but tell me, how did you get the corn to stand up again BEHIND the right wing in the photo of the plane in the corn? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Secondary plugs
Mike S. said; I'm reading the insulation breaks down over time . . . but that doesn't seem to happen with car leads or my bike leads and they get a lot more use . Mike, why not use same leads on the airplane? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Incredible Flying Skills
Paul said; This gives me some ideas for my first flight. : ) To hang in the air like that, you would need about 300HP and a 8' prop Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fuel handling & fires
The US Air force uses Halon extinguishers and when I was in the reserves, I had Halon extinguishers in my print shop. When I needed to recharge them, The Air Force Fire unit would do it for me for free. They no longer do it due to the EPA claiming that Halon is not eco friendly, so the price of Halon went up to $25 per pound. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Aircraft Rentals Shock
Paul Visk said; I paid $32 wet at an Air Force Base aero club up in Alaska. Back in 1983 Back in the 50's, the Air force aero clubs were owned and operated by the club members. When the Air Force took over management, they decided that they had to make a profit to help pay for other rec. programs, and the prices went way up. I bought a 7AC champ in 58 along with a couple of other guys and we did a lease arrangement with the aero club and paid $5.00 per hour wet, (all prices were wet), and then at the end of the month we received a $3.00 per hour rebate. The Champ cost us $1200.00. By the way, Paul, I did 9 months of radio repair school at Scott AFB. Spent a lot of time in Belleview.. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Aircraft Rentals Shock
Robert wrote; Think about where those costs go. it is.. a lot disturbing. Flying > should be cheaper.. I started flying in 1957 at a SAC aero club at Davis Monthan AFB in Tucson, AZ. We paid $4.00 per hour for a J-3 and a Champ 7AC. $5.00 per hour for a Tripacer and $8.00 for a T-34. Time was free if you were flying to get parts or to break in an engine overhaul. For $300.00 I accumulated 84 hours of flying . Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?
Can we change the subject on this thread? Doesn't look like finding wood anymore. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Hanger Time
Hi Joe. See if you can find a way to defeat a divorce lawyer. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 44
I am trying to remember a picture of an airplane that I saw years ago. I think it was a J3 with two props mounted on pylons sticking out to each side of the aircraft. Anyone recall seeing this? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Third Class Medical
Actually, we are now in a self certifying program. You are required to ground yourself if you feel you are not feeling well enough to fly. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> How long to remove wings for trailering (KR1)
There is something in the archives that shows a KR with a small tab and socket setup that a fellow uses that takes about 15 minutes with only one person, removing or installing the wings Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> fuel probe in tank
Patrick Flowers said; Not necessarily so. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammability_limit#Upper_explosive_limi In regards to Aircraft fuel tanks, I'll stand by my statement. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> fuel probe in tank
The fuel itself will not burn. If a spark occurs in the fuel, nothing happens. If the spark occurs above the fuel level, the fumes will burn in an explosive manner. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine
Looking ahead a bit, are we Dan? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Aluminum Band Saw
I bought the Harbor Freight red cutter about a year ago and have used it quite often with no problems. I have even worn out three metal blades with a whole lot of cutting. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> cowl hinge mounting
About 30 years ago, I flew Fly Baby from Minnesota to Florida. The cowl had a hinge and wire set-up and the wire was not secured at either end. Twice after landing, I had someone ask me what type of tach I was using. The wire would work out about 5 or 6" after about three hours flying and it looked like the prop would contact it each time it passed. (it wouldn't go out far enough to actually touch the prop). People sure thought it was a tach. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Jack Cooper
I have tried Jack's phone and his email with no response. Anyone have any information on him? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> John Denver
Never heard about Denver hitting a bird. I read an article about the crash that said that when John tried to reach behind his shoulder, his left foot pushed on the rudder peddle and flipped him over and down. he was too low to recover. The article went on to say that NTSB set up a simulator with the same configuration as John's aircraft and 10 pilots, who were not told about how the plane crashed, tried to switch tanks while trying to keep control of the aircraft and all ten crashed in the same manner as John. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> can someone reply to this test post
I got it too Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fw: Fw: [KAS 60-61] B-36 Flight Engineer's station
Sorry people, The picture I wanted did not come through. If you want to see the flight engineers station on a B-36, Try this link http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/062/B-36J%20Engineer.html - Original Message - From: "Patrick Driscoll" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: KR> Fw: [KAS 60-61] B-36 Flight Engineer's station > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 70403 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://list.krnet.org/mailman/private/krnet_list.krnet.org/attachments/20140121/354e1613/attachment.jpg>
KR> Panel ?
Mike, keep in mind that there is a difference between "Cheap"and "Inexpensive". Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Lowest_for_Hope_Depot
Home Depot also gives a 10% veterans discount, but you have to ask for it. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Blank emails
Marc, both of them came through for me although I have received a few with no messages Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> est W.
804 Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Tail wheel assembly
I think I read somewhere on this group, that someone was using the wheels from wheel skates, (or whatever they are called). It seems that they bought the skates from a thrift shop and had 8 or 10 wheels for just a few bucks. They had to replace them often but for the price, they thought it was worth the trouble. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Glass cloth shelf life
Sid said - Fiber glass cloth has a sizing coating on each strand to help the epoxy resin to bond to the glass. The shelf life for most fiber glass sizing is five years. After that time the wetting out with the resin becomes more difficult and will result in a weaker structure. The older the cloth the worse the situation will be. I posted this question to the group some time ago and was told that there is no end shelf life on fiber glass cloth. Would someone in the industry, (If there is someone in the group), please check in and clear this up. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Re: RAF 48 airfoil
Lee Van Dyke said; Does anybody have a digital version of the RAF 48 that I can take to Kinkos I downloaded Mark L's drawings to a disk and took it to Kinko;s and they gave me a full size printout that I used to cut out the ribs Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Late post
Soirry about the late post on the gathering flyers. I had just set up a new desktop and coulden't get the outgoing mail to send until just now. Patrick Driscoll St. Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net
KR> Gathering
I think that Mark's idea is great, we should get morer info out and IMHO the best way is to come up with a flyer and email it to all on the list and each one make as many copies as they can hand out . Mark wrote: I talked to Joe last night and he mentioned that we really should do more to promote the Gathering, such as publish it in Sport Aviation and other magazines and internet sites and lists, as well as local airport flyers, ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Gathering Weather
According to Pat Driscoll 60% chance of no rain on Thursday 100% chance of no rain on Friday 80 % chance of no rain on Saturday 60%chance of no rain on Sunday so go ahead with your plans to fly out. THINK POSITIVE!!! Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Jabaru vs corvair torque
Somewhere I found a set of plans and how to for making a torque measuring device using a VW wheel as the back of the motor mount and a 6', 2"x4" placed on a scale so that as the engine turned up the RPM's you could read the torque in foot pounds at any RPM and the guy used a 2"x4" for a prop so I don't think the prop has a lot to do with the torque. I have the drawings somewhere and if I can find them I'll give them to Mark L. to post on his site. I haven't tried to find them on the internet because I've had these plans since the early 80's Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> BMW engine v VW and Corvair
I remember a article in (I believe) Popular Mechanics back in about 1973. The author was in a Cessna 150 chase plane(?)and had photos of Ken Rand in the first KR-1. The KR-1 was actually flying circles around the 150 and I think the author said that the KR was doing about 150 MPH. That's when I called Ken and ordered plans for the 2 place when he finished drawing them up. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fw: [eaa54_members] some cool footage.
Not KR 2 or Covair related but still some great aircraft film and after all, it is Friday, (Yesterday) - Original Message - http://sleepingdogtv.com/ --Randy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EAA Chapter 54 Members" group. To post to this group, send email to eaa54_memb...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to eaa54_members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/eaa54_members?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EAA Chapter 54 Members" group. To post to this group, send email to eaa54_memb...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to eaa54_members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/eaa54_members?hl=en. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 353, Issue 148, Message 1.
Charles Brown said; I'm going to dust off the plans and get started on my KR 1. Do yourself a favor Charles, with not much more investment of time or money, you could build a KR2 and have a nice comfortable single place cross country aircraft. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> RE: Glenda McElwee email to KR list
I got Glenda's email and didn't like the looks of it so I just deleted it. Thought I'd wait and see if anyone else caught it and if not, I was going to email Glenda and ask if it was ligit. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fwd: KR right choice?
Larry, I got your first post OK. Check your spam folder Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> (no subject)
When I started flying in 1957, tail wheel was the only way to go. We did have a Tri-Pacer in the SAC Aero Club,(Davis Monthan AFB, AZ), but that was about a year after I started flying and the first trike gear I flew. On my second time in the air, with a different instructor than the first time, my new instructor told me to go ahead and taxi out and then told me to take off. He was under the impression that I had about 5 hours in the air. At that time I had about 50 minutes just getting use to the controls. I managed to get airborne after touching both sides of the runway, (about 50 feet wide) and making a low pass at the hanger area. My instructor had the nerves of a lion going after a piss-ant. He said "That was a little rough, lets go around and try it again." Then after that take off he told me to land the airplane,(Champ 7AC). Never have I seen an instructor with that much guts. I did manage to get it on the ground but I suspect I had some help from the back seat. It was the that he asked me how much time I had. When I told him I had less than an hour of air work only, he said lets go try that again! I took off again with nothing but verbal instructions from him and also landed with just verbal instructions. TAIL DRAGGERS are easy rick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KR2S for sale/Calling it a Motorglider
Harold said; You cannot just call it a Motor glider as tempting as it might be there is a definition out there regarding what qualifies... the more stringent being "the maximum weight to wing span squared can not exceed 3.0 kg/m2 (0.62 lb./ft2)". All details are outlined in Advisory Circular 21.17-2A. I checked on 21.17-2A. If you look at the introduction, it is an advisory for "certification" of gliders and motor gliders. I have no intention of certifying my aircraft. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KR2S for sale
The FAA also says that we are responsible to self assess ourselves on rather >or not we are medically fit to fly rather we qualify for a medical or not, >and if you have failed a FAA medical you do not qualify for LSA. I lost my medical after a heart attack in 1993. I also cannot afford to jump through the hoops every year. I also know my limitations and would not fly if I were not in top shape. My flight doc. said that there was no reason that I should not have my medical renewed so I took the physical and was turned down. That eliminates me from getting a LSA. I will register my aircraft as a motor glider and fly. I would like someone to check the FAA's records and see if there was anyone that had a second heart attack while flying or who had had a medical related crash after getting a special use medical. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KR2S for sale
Mark L. said; keep it light, name it something other than "KR2S", register it as a light sport and you're in business without selling your project. It's my understanding that the FAA say's that your aircraft is what you say it is. If you call it a powered glider you can fly it without a medical. You also can fly at any speed and at night. You do have to have a glider endorsement on your ticket. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fw: [eaa54_members] Fwd: A New Engine !
- Original Message - Don't want to downgrade the Corvair engine, (I've got 3 of them) but this is something to look at. ! The applications are unlimited! Saving the World Two Strokes at a Time This is no wimp engine. It's a two cylinder with four pistons delivering 300+ Horse Power It's extremely small and very efficient and is presently in use in test applications The configuration below is equivalent to a extremely ballsy four cylinder engine When doubled, it's an extremely ballsy 600+ H.P. engine It?s called OPOC (Opposed Piston Opposed Cylinder), and it?s a turbocharged two-stroke, two-cylinder, with four pistons, two in each cylinder, that will run on gasoline, diesel or ethanol. The two pistons, inside a single cylinder, pump toward and away from each other, thus allowing a cycle to be completed twice as quickly as a conventional engine while balancing it's own loads. The heavy lifting for this unconventional concept was performed Prof. Peter Hofbauer. During his 20 years at VW, Hofbauer headed up, among other things, development of VW?s first diesel engine and the VR6. The OPOC has been in development for several years, and the company claims it?s 30 percent lighter, one quarter the size and achieves 50 percent better fuel economy than a conventional turbo diesel engine. They?re predicting 100 MPG in a conventional car. For a good demo, See: http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder -- Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Re:Gathering date change
Larry, don't buy any meds. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Re:Gathering date change
I would really like to have any date except the 16th & 17th. Joanne has a Pow-Wow in Mankato, MN on that date. She has gone to the Pow-Wow every year for the past 30 years except last year when she came to the gathering with me when the dates conflicted. If need be then 16th & 17 are OK as she will go to the Pow-Wow and I will go to the gathering. This was done a couple of times before but she really enjoys going with the gals while we look at airplanes. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Foam cutting large scale
Sure blew the hell out of all the estimates for your first 1,000 hours; Here are the two that came near? William W Dec.16,2009 5:16 PM CST Ron Lendon Dec 16 2009 4:05 PM EST Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> 'Rectangular' boat building
When I started my first KR2 back about 74, I called Ken and asked about the square sides. He told me to go ahead and do it. He said he made the bottom less wide than the top because he liked the looks of it. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> KR-2 project for sale - reskinning
Original Message What would be a good procedure for removing existing fuselage skin and leave surfaces good for applying new skin? If you must remove the skin, try using a steam iron. let it set on the first part of the area you want to remove and when it gets real hot, just use a wedge to lift the plywood up and slip a sheet of paper between the longeron and the skin. Continue doing this until all the skin is removed. I used this method to remove a skin that was installed wrong, it worked very well Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Craigs Seafury
Pat, try Microsoft matrix. It's a free website designer and is on Your computer. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Return
I guess I get the award for the longest way home from the gathering. Jo and I drove to Fayetteville, NC right after the banquet and stayed there for 8 days and left on Monday morning, (09/27) and drove to Jack & Sandy Cooper's home. We spent the night there and left yesterday morning at about 11:30. We drove through the night and arrived home this morning at 7:30. We also had to stop back at Berea, KY to retrieve two pillows we left at the motel. Had a very good time at Jack & Sandy's house and also a very good meal. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Weather
Gary wrote: All settled in for the night. Me the wife and some turkey Is that Mark J? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Gathering
Leaving in about an hour for the gathering. Going to IL for two nights and will be there Fri. afternoon. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> keg
Bring the Keg. I'll throw in $10.00 Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Guitar????
Larry, I have a guitar I can bring in my car. Will be arriving Fri. afternoon and leaving after the banquet. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Gathering forums
I'll have a case of amber root beer Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> Fire Extinguisher
Mike. I would be very careful of Halon Extinguishers. Halon works because it is inert and deprives the fire of air for fuel. That means that you have no air in your cockpit to breath. With the air vents open, Halon cannot work because it cannot smother the fire. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> AirVenture Cup Race
John, sign me up for $25 Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> RE: KR Newsletter Best Solution
Karl, I just clicked on the link in your email and the website opened right away . Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> (no subject)
To end this argument over TD and NG, I'd like to point out that almost all of the NG drivers I have seen, land their aircraft with a very nose high attitude. My last bi-annual was very good with the exception that my instructor made me go around again and land with the nose much higher than on the first one. (this was in a Piper Cherokee). I am a pilot with 53 years of flying and did most of it in TD'ers. Even the NG people land the same as TD'ers Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
KR> 2010 KR National Gathering notes
Sorry Joe, I have to vote for the 10th. I think that trying to get a low rate motel room in KY during a horse show will be just about impossible. It sure would be a good date (17th,) to show off the planes by flying around town and letting the crowd get a good look. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Troops
Being that it's Friday, I can go off topic and make a request. The group I am with that served in the US Air force Security Service (Cold war warriors). in Turkey (1958-59) would like to start a salute to the military members and vets by starting a "Red Shirt Friday." To show support for the troops. Everyone wanting to, should wear a red shirt on each Friday. We would like it to be something that everyone would recognize as a tribute to the present troops and the Vets that served. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> (no subject)
Robert, my table is made from 2ea. 2"x8"x16' with a 8' 2"x8"x8' cut in half for the ends. I have 2 sheets of 3/4"x4'x8' particle board for a top with 2'x4' cross beams every 3' . The legs are 2"x4" (length up to you) with levelers on each one every 4'. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Careful what you carry with you
I think that I would contact the EMT's boss and ask him (Her?) what happened to the knife. Want to bet that it was never turned in? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> 1,000 Hour
Mark L, how many hours on your KR? Jones said you would hit 1,000 on Sept. 18 and I said on the 17th.. William said Dec. 16 at 5:16 PM CST and Ron Landon said Dec. 16th at4:06 PM EST. Martie Williams said Feb, 15 2009 @ 9:10 AM EST but I'm sure he ment to say 2010. .Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Gathering
Don't think my first post made it through. I won't be able to make the gathering this year. Please drink a couple of Amber Bock's for me. Don't too many of you drink for me as I can't handle as much as I could in the last few years Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Annual in D.C.
Steve wrote: Sorry about not being directly KR related It's Friday!! Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> another KR Gathering "Performance Evaluation"
Marl L wrote;Folks with stopwatches are encouraged to bring them. Almost anyone with a cell phone has a stopwatch or timer. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Plexiglas Spray Lat Removal
Jack wrote: You may want to try a micromesh kit. You should be able to get it from Wicks or Spruce. For a very fine finish, try polishing with Colgate tooth paste. We used to use it back in the 50's to polish radio crystals to their final frequency. Patrick Driscoll aint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
Mark L. wrote Saint Paul, MN. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. I was also thinking of Red Oak IA. but didn't want to chime in because it is only 5 hours from me and it would seem like I'm being selfish. Patrick Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Shop size
John wrote I'm getting ready to build a shop and was wondering how much room do I need to build a KR2? My current plans are for 16x20. It makes no matter what size shop you have it won't be big enough unless you have something like Jack Cooper's hanger. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> Re:user fees
John Milland wrote: Fifty years ago as a young and new pilot I was energized and terrified almost every month as AOPA came forth with a new warning that the general aviation world as we knew it was about to end. After a few years of this repeated cry of "wolf" I grew tired and dropped out of the AOPA organization. Did it occur to you that maybe the cry was dropped because so many who read it, called or emailed their congressmen and demanded a vote to drop the proposal? Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> last few flights...
Mark won't be the first, so we know it can be done There was a fellow from Sweden at OSH. in about 1979 or 80 that was going to fly his plane to Sweden by the Greenland, Iceland route. He had a reserve tank built that would be on the seat beside him. His was the first KR I had seen with flaps. I guess I can't really say that Mark wouldn't be the first because I never found out if the guy made it. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR> progress?
Ray wrote: Just need to find the time to do it. If I didn't have to go to work all the time I would get so much done. Don't think the "no work" will get you more time for your project, I have been retired for 11 years and I started on my KR three years ago and have only managed to get the two sides done. I need to go back to work so I have more time for the plane, Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
KR>wing bolts
Is the spacer welded in so you don't lose it when you pull the bolts? Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>CORSA
I joined the club in Minneapolis and found a fellow that would exchange the case, heads and crank of my 63 for a 110 Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>LED
Hey Pat, Were those LED calculators some kind of an updated version of the beads on a wire calculators we had way back when? Talking about your abs had a whole different meaning back then Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>Sorry about the attachments
I use outlook express and I have both messages and news set for HTML and all of my messages get through. Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>Hatch spring
Good looking installation Mark. Just be sure to wear a cap or hat when flying. The first time you lean back and get your hair caught in that spring, you'll wonder why you didn't think to put a thin plastic tube over it Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>Grounding
Just wanted to know if anyone knew what happened to the carbon fiber cords that used to come off the trailing edges of aircraft in the 40's and 50's to discharge static buildup. I worked electronics in the Air Force in the 50' but got out of it when I got out and didn't do any more electronic work after that, so I am not sure how they cope with static buildup on aircraft surfaces now, ( I don't see the cords on aircraft anymore). Pat Driscoll -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>Frequently-Asked Questions about Automotive Painting
Mike, I received a email from you to the KR net. My Panda anti-virus said that it was potentially dangerous and had been moved to the Quarantine file. Did you post a attachment called "Frequently-Asked questions about automotive painting"? Pat Driscoll patric...@usfamily.net -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>Virus?
Sorry people, I hit the reply to sender button thinking it would go to mike. Guess I'll have to cut and paste anyone not in my address book Pat Driscoll -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
KR>I want to be a pilot
Member of EAA chapter 54 put this on our mailing list thought I would pass it along. Pat Driscoll I Want to Be A Pilot I want to be a pilot when I grow up because it's fun and easy to do. Pilots don't need much school; they just have to learn numbers so they can read instruments. I guess they should be able to read maps so they can find their way if they get lost. Pilots should be brave so they won't get scared if it's foggy and they can't see. Or, if a wing or motor falls off they should stay calm so they'll know what to do. Pilots have to have good eyes so they can see through clouds and they can't be afraid of lightning or thunder because they are closer to them than we are. The salary pilot's make is another thing I like. They make more money than they can spend. This is because most people think airplane flying is dangerous except pilots don't because they know how easy it is. There isn't much I don't like, except girls like pilots and all the stewardesses want to marry them so they always have to chase them away so they won't bother them. I hope I don't get airsick because if I do I couldn't be a pilot and would have to go to work. A Fifth Grader View this thread on the web at http://www.cirruspilots.org/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showthreaded.pl?Board=members; -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! --
