Re: [lace] Bunny Patterns

2010-12-18 Thread Sue Babbs
There's a cute rabbit for sale on Etsy. I believe she sells the patterns too: http://www.etsy.com/listing/51346158/the-little-white-rabbit?ref=sr_gallery_1ga_search_query=bobbin+lace+rabbitga_search_type=handmadega_page=order=includes%5B0%5D=tagsincludes%5B1%5D=titlefilter%5B0%5D=handmade Sue

[lace] More for Nancy

2010-12-18 Thread Alex Stillwell
P.S. to the graphs. I don't think the peak at 1900 is quite in the right place but there were some books in the early 1900s. I thinkperhaps the spread of the peak should be wider. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here.

RE: [lace] bobbin lace vs needle lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Jo
I'm afraid the scientific use is debatable. Much depends on projects scanning books and offering the scans to google. So the books searched might be very biased. And the bias might differ by period. After all it are just about 4 percent of all books ever published. (I would like to know this

[lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay

2010-12-18 Thread Laurie Waters
Don't take it too bad Brian. I once dared to suggest privately to an Ebay seller that a 'handmade white Chantilly shawl' was actually machine made. After formally banning me from his site, and after his wife repeatedly told me to do something more productive with my life like trying prostitution,

RE: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay

2010-12-18 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
Couldn't you have made a formal report to eBay about this person Laurie. After all trying to sell machine made stuff and pass it off as handmade probably amounts to fraud if it is done repeatedly. If it is a one-off thing it could be called a 'mistake' but not if it is done all the time. There are

Re: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay

2010-12-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Doesn't surprise me that the wife of a person like this sees prostitution as something productive. Clay On 12/18/2010 7:21 AM, Laurie Waters wrote: Don't take it too bad Brian. I once dared to suggest privately to an Ebay seller that a 'handmade white Chantilly shawl' was actually machine

[lace] Metropolitan Museum of Art's lace collection on line

2010-12-18 Thread Dmt11home
What a happy holiday surprise! I just realized that the records of European Sculpture and Decorative Arts at the Metropolitan Museum of Art have appeared on the internet! If you will put in this tiny url _http://tinyurl.com/2a6abo8_ (http://tinyurl.com/2a6abo8) you will be able to see the

Re: [lace] Correspondence on some bobbins on eBay

2010-12-18 Thread Laurie Waters
Unfortunately Ebay doesn't care. They will assist the police in a legitimate investigation, but anything else is 'buyer beware'. They aren't in the business of policing millions of transaction. I think in the beginning they used to take things like this more seriously, but not now. And yes, I

Re: [lace] Metropolitan Museum of Art's lace collection on line

2010-12-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Since you've had access to much of this collection for a long time, and your cup runneth over, just imagine how those of us in the backwoods of this country must feel!! Thanks so much for giving us a heads-up on this, and let the MOMA know that they have just given the lace world an

Re: [lace] bobbin lace vs needle lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Nancy Neff
I haven't been able to see the paper in Science discussing the database and the methodology--bias in the selection of books scanned for example--but Science is one of the 3 or 4 leading and peer-reviewed scientific journals in the world. That doesn't mean that everything they publish is

Re: [lace] Metropolitan Museum of Art's lace collection on line

2010-12-18 Thread Devon Thein
MMA not MOMA. MOMA is Museum of Modern Art. Sent from my iPhon On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: Since you've had access to much of this collection for a long time, and your cup runneth over, just imagine how those of us in the backwoods of

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Sue Babbs
It is also interesting to put in a smaller year range, and come up with more detail eg from 1860-1880 http://tinyurl.com/27ue576 from 1954- 1962 http://tinyurl.com/2c5chxn - Original Message - From: robinl...@socal.rr.com To: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com; Arachne lace@arachne.com

[lace] Christmas card Exchange

2010-12-18 Thread lise thomsen
    Earlier this week I received a beautiful card with a white and green snowflake inside. It was made by Dawn Niner from Minooka, LI. Thank you so much.   Lise Thomsen from MO.   - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Ilske Thomsen
In those diagrams is machine-, needle-. bobbin- and pillow-lace mentioned. Could somebody tell me the difference between bobbin- and pillow-lace. Do they mean Teneriffe-lace? Or is pillow-lace the sum of needle- and bobbin-lace? Both are made on a pillow, needle lace in another sort of pillow

RE: [lace] Beads and dictionary Update

2010-12-18 Thread Margery Allcock
Brian, are you looking for a historical bone bead, or a more recent one? I think I have several dating from the 1980s or 90s. I can send photos if this is what you want? Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread J-D Hammett
Hi, I have always thought as bobbin lace being pillow lace (can also called bone lace). Needle lace, although it is mainly done on a pillow can also be done in the hand which makes it so handy to take when you are travelling. However, I am happy to keep an open mind as to what others have to

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Nancy Neff
My understanding of the terms is the same as yours, Joepie. Also I think the term pillow lace is more common in England than in the US--anyone: is that so? Nancy Connecticut--about to get snow but nothing like England has! (I hope) From: J-D Hammett

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
I think it is important for us to differentiate between what *we* have always thought, and what the writers of the particular books which were searched thought! I'm curious how the search works too... is it looking for word combinations that are exact, as in bobbin lace but not lace bobbin?

[lace] Bobbinlace bunny patterns

2010-12-18 Thread Tammy Bartholomae
Kloppelshop has quite a few bunnies on their Easter page. The website is at http:www.kloppelshop.de Hope you find what you're looking for. Tammy - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

Re: [lace] Bobbinlace bunny patterns

2010-12-18 Thread Pat T
I think there was an error in the address. I use http://www.kloeppelshop.de/ which has several bunnies under Klöppelbriefe and then Ostern/Fruehling (Easter/Spring). The dieresis (umlaut) 'ö' should resolve to 'oe' though pasting it does often result in a single 'o'. I won't include the Java

[lace] Nancy's graph

2010-12-18 Thread Lorelei Halley
Nancy What is really interesting about the word frequency graph is that the needle lace spikes match the bobbin lace ones, but at a lower level. I suppose that is an illustration of the relative interest in the two forms of lace. The spikes at 1900 and 1960 are odd. The one just be fore 1980

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Sue Babbs
I had never heard the term pillow lace in England where I learned bobbin lace from 1988 to 1999. I first came across it when demonstrating bobbin lace in the Chicago Botanic Gardens and was told quite firmly that I wasn't making bobbin lace, but pillow lace! News to me! Sue Babbs -

Re: [lace] Bobbinlace bunny patterns

2010-12-18 Thread bunnyrosenator
On 19/12/2010, at 6:07 AM, Pat T wrote: I think there was an error in the address. I use http://www.kloeppelshop.de/ which has several bunnies under Klöppelbriefe and then Ostern/Fruehling (Easter/Spring). Thanks for that Pat, there was an error, but it certainly was an interesting site -

Re: [lace] Bobbinlace bunny patterns

2010-12-18 Thread Pat T
You are welcome. I really think we need to thank Tammy. I had the address stored and I occasionally browse the site, but I had no idea about all the bunnies and such. Thank you Tammy, I really had never looked at the patterns, just the supplies. Someone on one of the list or perhaps a

[lace] Pillow lace

2010-12-18 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
My Grandmother always called it Pillow lace , but she only made Bobbin lace. I think 'Pillow lace' usually refers to 'Bobbin lace'. I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a very Happy Festive Season, and all the best for the New Year. Liz in Melbourne - currently away on

Re: [lace] bobbin lace in print in English

2010-12-18 Thread Clive Betty Rice
I began bobbin lace in 1977 while living in England and heard many times that in the old times it was known as pillow lace and bone lace. I was also told that bone lace was because fish bones were used to support the threads before pins were invented. I do have some reference to that somewhere

[lace] Bunny Patterns

2010-12-18 Thread Whitham, Irene Steve
Here is a cute bunny pattern http://www.nytiknipling.dk/ click on download, scroll down on page, look for Påskehaløj Irene Whitham, Surrey, BC Canad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to