RE: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?-earliest tallies?

2017-04-20 Thread devonthein
I have sent Nancy and Lorelei some photos that I took that I can only share privately for study purposes. (Anyone else?) They show rather elaborate tally grounds such as I associate with Honiton. This falls into the category of something I never thought about before. But, when did tally grounds, b

Re: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?

2017-04-20 Thread Nancy Neff
g like 19th or 20th > c Honiton. > Going back to your 2 examples -- those braids which connect the motifs to > each other are typical of laces from the early 18th c. > Lorelei > > > From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of > devonth...@gmail.co

RE: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?

2017-04-20 Thread Lorelei Halley
er are typical of laces from the early 18th c. Lorelei From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of devonth...@gmail.com Subject: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish? In my continuing study of whether the term point db - To unsubscribe send

[lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?

2017-04-20 Thread devonthein
In my continuing study of whether the term point d’Angleterre should be used, or Brussels bobbin lace, I decided to consult the on line catalogs of other museums. I started with the Philadelphia Museum of Art, searching “point d’Angleterre”. Several things came up but one looked strangely f

[lace] Lappets/Fine thread

2017-02-12 Thread devonthein
I sent Catherine via email a photo of a spool of thread that I studied during a demonstration of Alencon by the school in Alencon in 2014. It seemed like a normal spool of fine cotton thread to me, not anything unavailable on the market. I noted that in a video they showed at the museum the thread

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-12 Thread Catherine Barley
nancy.a.n...@gmail.com Date : 11/02/2017 - 20:13 (GMTST) To : catherinebar...@btinternet.com Cc : lace@arachne.com Subject : Re: [lace] lappets Catherine, I didn't see an answer to your question about Alencon lace, but I don't get all the [lace] messages, so everybody forgive me if I dup

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-11 Thread Nancy Neff
Catherine, I didn't see an answer to your question about Alencon lace, but I don't get all the [lace] messages, so everybody forgive me if I duplicate someone else's answer. Yes, it is apparently still made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hI1uz0p9sk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7lwhYEUCk h

[lace] lappets

2017-02-11 Thread Alex Stillwell
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 02:04:20 + (UTC) From: Janice Blair Subject: [lace] lappets I am working on my second adaptation of a lappet from Hi Janice Try www.bart-francis.be I looked up their website a couple of months ago and they still have 190/2, 200/2 and 240/2 Egyptian cotton

[lace] Lappets

2017-02-10 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Catherine,I tried to send a private reply to your email but it was returned as it was read as Spam at your end, so here it is. Thank you for the compliment. If you look on my website, I have a needlelace collar that I made a number of years ago and I was so new to the lace that I did not realiz

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-10 Thread Catherine Barley
Janice your giraffe is exquisite! Many congratulations and you must be delighted with the result. I am faced with a similar problem in that I am currently working on an antique Point de Gaze pattern of a collar, given to me some 30 or so years ago by a Belgian lady. At that time I didn't have

[lace] Lappets

2017-02-09 Thread lizlace
Alice – I remember you wearing lappets at one (or 2) of the IOLI conventions. I seem to remember you had a different one from your collection, each day! Everyone was looking out for you to see what you were wearing that day – lace-wise!! Next Convention I went to, I wore my Beds Dress Cap (fe

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-09 Thread Sue Babbs
She is spectacular, Janice! Well done!! I remember conversing with Holly about that birth sac and what she was going to do with the design when she worked on it - a plant was our favoured suggestion. I've added her to your album in Flickr I look forward to seeing the ostrich in due course.

[lace] lappets

2017-02-09 Thread Janice Blair
I am working on my second adaptation of a lappet from the book about Thomas Lester. I have managed to put a photo on Flickr in the Photo Stream. I thought I was putting it in my album but it did not show up there. Maybe Sue can move it for me. :-) Anyway, take a look. Holly Van Sciver did the prick

Re: [lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

2017-02-08 Thread Clay Blackwell
The most compelling argument that I can think of is that the history of lace had been traced back to the very early years after the dark ages, when totally dark clothing began to be lightened with white linen cuffs and collars, which... over time... began to be embroidered. This eventually tr

Re: [lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

2017-02-08 Thread Nancy Neff
It may also be of interest to note that lace collars and cuffs were during much of their history worn by men as well as, or at times instead of, women, whereas lappets were worn only by women. Nancy Connecticut, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubsc

[lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

2017-02-08 Thread devonthein
Jean asks, “Were separate lace collars and cuffs around as long as lappets?” Interesting question. I certainly never thought about it before. One could argue that lace collars and cuffs, although they predate lappets, underwent more dramatic changes in size, shape, stiffness, and orientation t

RE: [lace] lappets in the 21st century

2017-02-07 Thread devonthein
Basically, the challenge is to get the lappets out of the lace conference and onto the runways. How hard could that be? Fashion designers always borrow from the past. I don’t think a simple expedient such as transforming lappets into scarves is going to appeal to the fashion world which is always

Re: [lace] lappets books

2012-06-13 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Lorelei, they are from a place named Hermannsburg which is in the northern part of Germany, north of the town of Celle. The lappets were worn for the confirmation. They are from black silk and a lot of them in the technique of Erzgebirgische Guipure. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...

Re: [lace] lappets books

2012-06-13 Thread lacelady
- Original Message - From: "Lorelei Halley" What style are the lappets? Point ground, Mechlin? Lorelei The lappets of Hermannsburg, Germany, were mostly considered to be Erzgebirge Guipure. The opinion of the people studying them were that they came from a variet

[lace] lappets books

2012-06-13 Thread Lorelei Halley
Alice What style are the lappets? Point ground, Mechlin? Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-rec