If you look at an enlarged photo of the reversed corner you can that the net
was cut badly leaving threads and even some netting hanging over the edge.
 The circles on the net also looks a little fuzzy to me which makes me think
it is all machine made. I think a handmade one would have had better
Thank you to everyone who has had any input in this discussion. It is
interesting to read all the different thoughts and view.
It has given both myself and my sister much more idea of what she has owned
for 32 years and it has been moved from a keepsake box into her knickers draw
so she can enjoy
Sorry. I said that the mantillas from Granada and Barcelona were machine
made. IT IS NOT TRUE. They are manual.
Maria Greil
El sáb., 18 jul. 2020 a las 19:16, N.A. Neff ()
escribió:
> I agree with Maria. As I said initially, this is machine-made needlerun on
> machine-made net. This indeed a fo
Thank you, Nancy, your explanation was very useful.
I learned this kind of lace collecting *mantillas* and being a young family
member of an active professional embroiderer. *Mantillas* were made in
bobbin lace and later, when the manufacture had to speed up, they were
embroidered on machine tulle.
I agree with Maria. As I said initially, this is machine-made needlerun on
machine-made net. This indeed a form of embroidery on net, which is not
usually included in what people mean by "needle-lace". I didn't want to get
into an argument about how narrowly or how broadly one defined
"needle-lace"
Sorry, but I do not agree with you. I find it is no needle lace but machine
embroidery on a mechanical tulle.
Maria
El jue., 16 jul. 2020 a las 16:21, sue () escribió:
> There are always too many Sues in my life to help the confusion! Grin.
> The
> handkerchief was bought by my sister in 1988 t
There are always too many Sues in my life to help the confusion! Grin. The
handkerchief was bought by my sister in 1988 to carry at her wedding as her
something old. She bought it in the Kings Road, London, England UK. It
appeared from its storage in recent times while shielding from the cov
There are too many Sues in this handkerchief conversation! Grin!! Other
than posting the photos on Flickr for Sue T, I know nothing about the
hanky.
Sue T has asked her sister for more photos, and there is now also a
photo of the hanky's reverse and a photo of its corner. The photos are
in an
My apologies!!! I forgot to trim. It's been a while since I posted...
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Hi Sue,
How pretty! And what a good photo -- the details are quite clear when
enlarged.
It is needle-run lace, embroidery on net. The net is machine-made, and the
embroidery is also almost certainly done by machine although I wouldn't
claim to be 100% sure unless I could see the back. It is a ver
Hazel's wedding hanky photo is now on Flickr for all to see. Hopefully
it can be correctly identified
Sue
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If you send me the photos and descriptions you want placing on each, I
will put them on Flickr for you
Sue
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To: "sue"
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Sent: 7/15/2020 11:17:47 AM
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Where can we see the pictures ?
El mié., 15 jul. 2020 a las 12:38, sue () escribió:
> Hi lacemakers one and all. I hope you are all safe and well, many of the
> lacemakers I know will have been busy making lace in lockdown to keep
> themselves, busy, calm and comfortable. What a joy to be abl
Hi lacemakers one and all. I hope you are all safe and well, many of the
lacemakers I know will have been busy making lace in lockdown to keep
themselves, busy, calm and comfortable. What a joy to be able to.
My sister just sent me two images of a lace handkerchief that she bought
during 1988 in
On 13 May 2019, at 18:52, Karen Thompson wrote:
>
> Elena pointed out the V&A's site
> http://www.dressandtextilespecialists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lace-Booklet.pdf
> which
> I also find extremely helpful, especially for identifying the machine made
> laces.
The same website also has
We are really fortunate to have Jean Leader providing her new website
www.lacetypes.com I just tested it on my hp desktop, and it is terrific. I
also often use Jean's Lace app on my i-phone. It is also very, very useful.
The symbol is a lace cap if you are looking for it. The cost is very
minimal
Hello All! A friend has some lace she wants to trade for embroidery supplies.
The tags are: Flanders foliated, Flemish tape & Antique "Cuspiore"
(spelling??) Venetian used for altar cloths. She sent me pictures & I have
posted them to Flickr to see if the experts can help identify them in more
Hi Tamara and Olga,
In 1991, I visited the lace 'factory' in Vologda with a group of german
lacemakers. The trip was organized by Marianne Stang, a very active lacemaker.
We were very well received there. We could visit the working rooms and see the
lacemakers at work. A very complete fashion s
On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:22 AM, Olga Ieromina wrote:
>
> СНЕЖИНКА
>
> SNEGINKA Lace Guild of Vologda named by Labor Medal of Red Flag
Hi Olga,
The name of the factory gets transliterated from the Cyrillic alphabet in
several ways. The way I remembered was Snezhinka, so that's what I googled, and
Dear Lace Experts,
This subject, written about yesterday, resulted in some fresh Arachne
mail, as intended. Much was personal - just to me, so the list did not see
them.
Here are a couple items to remind everyone:
1. Sometimes my mail from AOL does not get delivered. It happens only
Hi Jeri,
This should be piece of Russian lace from Vologda.
The letters are in Cyrillic
The first part is the organisation name and address (if you see ??? below
it means that your PC is not setup for Cyrillic):
ÐологодÑкое
ÐÐ ÐÐÐРТРУÐÐÐÐÐÐ
ÐÐ ÐСÐÐÐÐ ÐÐÐÐÐÐÐ
Dear Lace Experts,
Our list is too quiet. Here is something to discuss.
Last year, I purchased a lace collection from a friend who desperately
needed money. It was all in one large densely-packed box, and most is
unlabeled. Not knowing where the laces came from, I have been slowly
wet-
Thank you Brenda, really interesting.
Sue T
If you go to the link
http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29
then click on the photo of the lace to enlargeit, it is clearly labelled
"Irish Lace, Hand finished lace made on traditional embroidery frames."
The smaller writing underneath
I don't use my machine to replace bobbin lacemaking - it's nothing like it.
But it is useful if you just want a "quick" bit of decoration on something. I
put "quick" in inverted commas because it isn't in sewing machine terms -
probably 30 minutes up to an hour to complete a design. But if it's one
And forgot to add that you also hand finish by snipping off any stray threads
from your finished machine embroidery.
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Those of us who have sewing machines which can embroider in hoops can produce
this kind of "lace". Lots of designs available on the web, some free and some
very intricate. Instead of fabric, water soluble stabilizer is used, load the
design into the machine, press 'go' and disappear to do something
If you go to the link
http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29
then click on the photo of the lace to enlargeit, it is clearly labelled
"Irish Lace, Hand finished lace made on traditional embroidery frames."
The smaller writing underneath reads
"The tradition of Embroidery and Lace M
I have to say i wasn't thinking it was hand made so where did the hand
finished come in. Thank you for clearing that one up. They are pretty
though and of course friends see lace and think of me:-) Nice of them.
It's definitely chemical lace, but I suppose that snipping the motifs apart
usi
I couldn't get the web site to enlarge the photos of the coasters from the
thumbnails, but it does look like Carickmacross lace. Carickmacross is an
Irish lace embroidered on tulle. It is fast and easy and is worked on a pad
of cloth held in the hand so can be carried anywhere. It also had endles
It's definitely chemical lace, but I suppose that snipping the motifs apart
using scissors would make it "hand finished".
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> It looks very much like Chemical Lace to me and certainly not hand made!
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This is a sort of chemical lace - embroidery as they made in Vogtland,
Erzgebirge and in Switzerland.
Ilske
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Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com
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Subject: [lace] lace identification please
A friend brought me this item just as its shown in the link below. It is
Irish lace and needle work rather than other lace work.
>
http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29
Hi
I believe this is a form if machine lace called "chemical lace". It was
embroidered by machine on a fabric which was then dissolved away by chemicals.
Clay
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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:51 AM, "Sue" wrote:
>
>
> I wonder if one of you experienced spiders would pin it down to what
A friend brought me this item just as its shown in the link below. It is
Irish lace and needle work rather than other lace work.
I wonder if one of you experienced spiders would pin it down to whatever type
you believe it to be. It mentions embroiderers and also that it is Hand
Finished lace made
Thank you to everyone who has responded with help identifying the different
lace types we used in our recent card exchange. I have now designated the
ones I called 'tape lace' into the following headings. Thank you Elizabeth
Ligeti for explaining it so clearly.
tape lace - lace constructed usin
Hi Jenny
Most of your identification seems to be spot on, the only ones I would disagree
with are:
Sallie -> Jeanette is tape lace/braid lace with a stem stitch gimp down the
centre and joined with sewings all along the length of the candy cane.
Amber -> Marina (should that be Martina?) is Ten
On 13/01/2012 03:59, Jenny Brandis wrote:
I am having a go at identifying the different techniques used in the 2011
Arachne Card Exchange
Mine's torchon. I'm wondering whether Holly has received it? Perhaps I
missed reading that she has. If not, it seems to be taking a ridiculous
am
I am having a go at identifying the different techniques used in the 2011
Arachne Card Exchange but am unsure (quite a bit) so if you would like to
take a look at what I have done so far and let me know where I have
misallocated that would be appreciated. I will transcribe the results onto
our Card
Susan, and all
The wedding photo of Marjorie Merriweather Post's daughter Adelaide
Brevoort Close (1908-1998) was taken at the Hillwood estate in
Washington, DC. although her wedding to Thomas "Tim" Welles Durant on
January 19, 1927 took place in New York City. Adelaide wore a short
dress with a lo
Hello All! Thank you Linda for posting the link to this article. I'll admit
to drooling over the Lanvin sleeve detail on my way to downloading the booklet
for reading later. Thanks Karen for posting the veil link--what a fabulous
piece! The 88x102 stitches/rows per inch scale is almost beyon
Hi Cindy,
Yes, I totally agree with you about this seller--she's terrific and
offers stellar pieces. I didn't mean to imply anything negative about her.
Just that I didn't know why something was called one thing vs another. And the
lace is so crisp and in such good condition (only one hole that I'
Hi Nancy,
I can't help you a lot with the identification of this lace. What I can say
is that this seller is pretty knowledgeable about lace and usually sells
quality pieces. I have bought from her in the past and have also had
communications with her about pieces she has for sale. Unlike other
sorry, they are on webshots:
http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
From: Nancy Neff
To:
Nancy Neff ; Arachne
Sent: Sat, June 26,
2010 3:47:33 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] lace identification question
I've posted
an album with some phot
I've posted an album with some photos of the "flanders with gimp" lace I
was asking about. Any ideas you have about what type of lace and its age
would be appreciated.
Thanks! --Nancy
Nancy A. Neff
Connecticut, USA
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Wow, am I ever embarrassed. As soon as I started taking detailed pictures for
Devon, I could see that it is indeed Old Flanders ground (pre-WWI). It's just
so much tighter and neater than anything I do that without magnification I
thought it was Torchon. *blush*
So I think the question is: when di
I'd appreciate some help from the lace experts on this list. I bought this
lace recently: http://tinyurl.com/36v5vo8
The ground is a plain torchon
ground (not Flanders), so you see the relative coarseness of the thread
compared to the incredibly fine threads of the 18th C. Also the lace itself is
Having seen similar situations where lace has been identified and dated by
experts, and then found them to be totally inaccurate, I now consider the
names to be generic and describe the type of lace as determined by the
techniques used to make it. However this is also a problem as we do not have
a
After years of going into one of our local shops, which sells victoriana,
and harping at the owner about mislabelling her lace, the owner has asked me
to come and actually identify the stuff. (called putting my money where my
mouth is, calling my bluff etc. ) That shouldn't be too much of a proble
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