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Thanks Bobbi. and I also have the diagrams attached. I will print your message with the diagrams to keep for future reference. Karen in Malta > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera..

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Thanks for the reply. Karen in Malta > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

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The stitching is very close and tight, so I think there is no chance of fraying over time, as long as the treatment of the lace is reasonably gentle as it always should be. Kathleen, in a hot and humid Berkshire, UK, expecting thunder any minute! Sent from my iPad > On 23 Jun 2019, at 12:32,

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Good morning Karen and everyone else. I've been watching this and have finally decided to jump in. Karen, attached is a photo/diagram. Starting at #1 you make the piece of lace. You finish at #2. (ha ha... can you tell I do a lot of Tonder? footside on the left) You over lap the two ends to matc

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Interesting to follow the discussion on lassen. What I am still trying to understand, though, is that once the extra piece of lace is cut away, what is there to keep it looking neat over time (i.e. not have a frayed edge)? Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com conta

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contain the same problems as designing corners for Bucks -- the flattened grid for the ground. Lorelei -Original Message- Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question Pam Nottingham was emphatic that she and her students were the first to design flat corners for edging handkerchiefs, in the mid

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My bad, forgot to edit. Lashing myself with a wet noodle as I type. lrb "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, wri

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se ignore it. I read your emails." -Original Message- >From: Lorelei Halley >Sent: Jun 22, 2019 6:12 PM >To: 'Bev Walker' , 'Gon Homburg' >Cc: 'Adele Shaak' , 'lacelijst -' >Subject: RE: [lace] Lassen question > >??

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e onto the beginning. Lorelei -Original Message- Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of Chantilly together to form the really big shawls? Or does that have another name? From: &

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???Lasso, as in attach a cow to a rope??? ??? Lassen, as in tie a lace to itself??? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemake

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Flanders also uses lassen. -Original Message- Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question I think that lassen is something that you do with Binche and point de Paris. Are there any other laces that use "lassen"? Nancy, did you see any other handkerchiefs of interest? I might h

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It's called point de racroc, and is quite a different technique--it doesn't overlap the two pieces at all but sews in a thread between the two pieces of net that follows a path that connects the two pieces as if they were one piece of net. In lassen, the sewing thread whips around the bars of the n

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"racroc" maybe, I think? Yes it does have a different name. ok, found it in Alex Stillwell's dictionary. Point de rac(c)roc or Point de raccroche On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:26 PM jviking @sover.net wrote: > Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of > Chantilly together

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alker" Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 12:31 PM To: "Gon Homburg" Cc: "Adele Shaak" , "lacelijst -" Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question Then I wasn't far off the mark after all. Thanks for the background information. Lassen and lace are "tied together"

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Then I wasn't far off the mark after all. Thanks for the background information. Lassen and lace are "tied together" in origin. I like words. Bev in Shirley BC Canada On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:57 AM Gon Homburg wrote: > The etymology of the dutch word ‘lassen’ is: > From Middle Dutch

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The etymology of the dutch word ‘lassen’ is: >From Middle Dutch lasschen (“to join together”). Further etymology is unclear, but probably borrowed from Old French

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I always think of the word “lash” as in “lash together” Adele > Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of > It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a > Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I > could be o

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Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of something are joined together (in some way) to look like one. Sew together is more relevant. It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "

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Hi Jane, I think there is no translation of “lassen” used for lace in one word. You could translate it as sew together. You are sewing one end of the lace to the other, just as you do with welding of metal pieces. The big difference is that welding is done between two ends of metals and the sew

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Hello Helen and everyone The neat join called "lassen" is really effective. I followed the instruction in the Book of Flanders by Niven; equipment required is one very short, very fine needle, a pair of finely-pointed scissors, and a joining thread that exactly matches the shade of the lace thread

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When I blow up the photos to be able to see the path of the thread as it whipped around bars in the net, it looks to me like the thread used for the join is the same thread that was used to make the lace. It's certainly not significantly finer. Nancy On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 7:05 PM Devon Thein w

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Adele, I'm thinking that a lassen technique might have developed when flat corners meant one no longer had the gathers at the corners in which to hide the seam. That's why I've asked in my last post if the seam is indeed in a gathered part in handerkerchiefs with gathered corners. In handkerchiefs

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I put up on laceioli.ning the phtos of 63.196.17. Also, I did find some lassen. One is dated about 1800, which I am somewhat doubtful about. The other is joined lappets dated early 19th century. But, I would expect that if they were joined it was somewhat later than the date of the lappets, since l

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My understanding is that lassen is used when the end of a pattern overlaps the beginning; and the patterns therefore match. This would have nothing to do with corners; it would be done in the one place in the lace piece where the end overlapped the beginning. So, if you were making a hankie that

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Devon, Quite a few of the handkerchiefs that were donated by the Duchesse de Richelieu, in memory of the Princess Alice of Monaco, in 1963, were of interest, largely because I couldn't see an obvious join in most of them. Several had flat corners: e.g., 63.196.17. In the ones with gathered corner

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<> Funny you should ask. I was looking at one of the binche handkerchiefs from Princess Alice of Monaco, 63.196.6. The joins are in the corners and they do not use lassen, although they are very skillfully done. I have posted photos of the four corners on http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identificati

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I guess I have to confess that I believed a source and shouldn't have, or I totally misunderstood her: Pam Nottingham was emphatic that she and her students were the first to design flat corners for edging handkerchiefs, in the mid-twentieth C. She must have meant only Bucks because I've just surve

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I have few older handkerchiefs so I'm like Devon -- I can't say for sure, but I think in the ones I have that have gathered corners, there's a quite visible join. (They are in storage but I will try to dig them out soon.) I do know that the flat corners are a recent development (i.e., starting in t

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Lassen is a technique for joining fine lace. It is done with very fine thread which is used to wrap small bundles invisibly. Corner work is continuous. It doesn't require the finer thread. I'm frustrated that I can't remember more! I also can't find my copy of "Het Lassen", which covers

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Add this to the list of things I should be looking for when I look at lace in the museum! This is something I never thought of before. I had a quick look through my photos and I couldn't find an example of lassen, although I have been taught how to do the technique in several classes. It would be i