Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-12 Thread Jenny Brandis
Hi Anna, thank you for your kind words. This weekend is the local ag show and some of my girls have entered their work, So it is an anxious time for them. I enjoy being with them as they are such fun to be around! Tomorrow I will check out how well they did and take photos of their work.

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-11 Thread Anna Binnie
Jenny, having met you for the first time last year, I'm not at all surprised that the munchkins keep coming back. You are an inspirational teacher. And surrogate grandmother how lovely. There are lots of very young grandmothers I must admit i have been surprised that the group has

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-10 Thread nestalace . carol
lynrbai...@desupernet.net Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching children .  A UNIFIED BACKGROUND CHECK FOR LACE TEACHERS!!  Hi All - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-10 Thread Rosemary Hemmett
Dear All I have experienced this CRB checks and at one time could have papered the little room with all the certificates for the different things I was involved in. Not just for working with children but with Vulnerable Adults. (This covers anyone who finds themselves in a vulnerable

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-10 Thread Jenny Brandis
I have been teaching children for 4 years (7-12 yrs old at the beginning) and although I went and got the australian police clearance called 'working with children' it has never been asked for. I teach in my own home each Saturday afternoon and it is purely voluntary on behalf of the kids. If

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Joke Sinclair
Dear Lyn, You gave me an excellent idea. I could use some slave labour to be able to enter the 5 meter club :) Just kidding! It is sad they had to enforce these rules. Joke On 8 Jul 2013, at 23:20, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Dear Joke, I apologize, but your posting struck me the

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All Been watching this thread with interest. I am enhanced CRB checked and do hold a current certificate however here in the UK it would only cover me for being a School Crossing Patrol! If I wanted to go into school to 'teach' then I should be CRB checked for that... if I wanted to

RE: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread Maureen
I so agree Sue. Look at the cases in recent years where 'abusers' have had the necessary CRB checks and passed just because they 'lied' or something. I also believe it is basically a money making exercise. Retired people have the time and energy to go and teach lacemaking to children in

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-09 Thread lynrbailey
, Pennsylvania, USA, where the background checks are portable, says DH. Only need one. -Original Message- From: Sue Duckles s...@duckles.co.uk Sent: Jul 9, 2013 4:32 AM To: Arachne lace@arachne.com lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching children Hi All Been watching this thread

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread Jacquie Tinch
Although I don't agree that you *have to be* a mathematician or scientist etc to be a good lacemaker, I am reasonably confident that a high percentage of those people who are bobbin lacemakers do have those inclinations and this may have been what Alex meant. Many times I have asked around a

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread nestalace . carol
Hi Spiders, This theme has made me think!   I was lucky enough to teach lace at a private school, in the after-school activities, and had so many children we had to have a 'helper' for me!   I taught the Textiles class, and when some of the parents, children and staff knew I made lace (I made

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread J D Hammett
by people to help persuade schools to open the doors have been misunderstood. Joepie in sunny Sussex, UK -Original Message- From: Clay Blackwell Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:57 AM To: Anna Binnie Cc: alexstillw...@talktalk.net ; Arachne reply ; Lyn Bailey Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread Cynce Williams
On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:00 PM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: What skills does lacemaking develop that will benefit school age children? If you have an idea, please share. Off the top of my head: concentration, following instructions, both written and oral, hand-eye coordination, small

Re: [lace] Teaching children/teaching all ages

2013-07-08 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Joke and everyone Your comment says it for me, I notice this also at lace days and other lace get-togethers: ...But when I look at the lace clubs I go to, there is no reason for pessimism. Every year I see new faces ... -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island,

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Joke, I apologize, but your posting struck me the wrong way. I'm sitting here with tears of laughter running down my face, thinking, Rats, my extensive criminal convictions will not let me teach lace to children... I know it's serious, and probably expensive, but really, lacemakers going

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Lyn, and everyone I volunteer with an out-reach program, visiting schools. As a matter of course, we agreed to a criminal records check at the onset of volunteering for the program. It probably helps that my program is sponsored by a creditable arts institution that can cover the expense of

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-08 Thread Anna Binnie
Joke wrote: Also parents nowadays expect all adults, who work with children in after school activities or clubs, to be CBR checked as well. In Australia anyone who works with children needs to get a police check done. It is standard for teachers, ancillary staff, volunteers and sports

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread linda dumas
I am one of those computer programmers and math types.  I love making Pag needlelace because of the logic and geometric properties of it.  In this part of my career, I no longer program but the lace fills that spot.  I have had the same experience with demonstrating, the little boys pick it up

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread linda dumas
I am one of those computer programmers and math types.  I love making Pag needlelace because of the logic and geometric properties of it.  In this part of my career, I no longer program but the lace fills that spot.  I have had the same experience with demonstrating, the little boys pick it up

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear Alex et al, Precisely. It could be an 'in' at schools. I have not had any close connection with school children for over 10 years, but girls especially are not inclined to math. Presenting lacemaking, especially bobbin lacemaking as a way to develop spatial thinking, (physics?) or

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread The Lace Bee
I was lucky enough to demonstrate with my local group at a recent 'county' event. One of the group brought a 'have a go' pillow along and we asked anyone passing if they would like to try lacemaking. Adults and children alike tried the pillow. The adults would do a row and stop but the

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best lacemakers!! It may be that those who are making the claims happen to have those skills, but being able to execute a lace pattern is not the same as making it

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Dmt11home
I no longer have a child in school, but I was talking to an elementary school teacher the other day. She made the interesting claim that now that penmanship is being de-emphasized in favor of key boarding, she observes that the children are not developing fine motor skills as in the past. In

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Clay, et al, So, which horizons specifically would be broadened? If one is trying to promote lacemaking as a skill capable of developing other capabilities of the mind, to persuade educators and others to help with teaching children by promoting the craft, providing space, all that, one

Re: [lace] Teaching children-Scandinavian schools

2013-07-07 Thread Dmt11home
It seems as though Scandinavian schools, in the past at least, had a crafts curriculum. When I was young a girl moved to our neighborhood from Norway. She had a complete set of doll clothes that she had knitted. When I asked her about it, she said she had knitted them in school. Why don't

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
I wouldn't try to promote lacemaking as a way to develop other tangible life skills. The outcome is entirely dependent on the individual. What excites one person may drive another crazy. Don't let lacemaking go the same route as the forced piano lessons of childhood! Clay Sent from

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Clay and everyone Yes, learning to make lace is best by choice. I like this : ... Don't let lacemaking go the same route as the forced piano lessons of childhood! -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Dmt11home
Yes, but didn't this start out as a conversation about how to make that choice available to children in the face of an unsympathetic school district that would not allow the posting of an A2 piece of paper announcing the availability of children's lace lessons? Devon Hello Clay and

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Maureen
Good evening I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking at our local garden centre which is really a converted greenhouse on what is probably the hottest weekend on this year's English summer and am happy to say that not only did we encourage one teenager yesterday to make a fish

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread J D Hammett
Well done! I hope they do come to your group. Joepie. -Original Message- From: Maureen Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:28 PM To: dmt11h...@aol.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Teaching children Good evening I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking at our

Re: [lace] Teaching children excample of success

2013-07-07 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Maureen, Congratulations on a job well done. That took a lot of work, preparing and then being there, enticing, saying the right thing, encouraging. That is the way we will get our beloved craft/art to continue. Lyn Maureen wrote: I have spent the last two days demonstrating lacemaking

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Anna Binnie
On 7/07/13 11:13 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote: I am astonished that no one has challenged the notion that people with superior math/science/computer programming skills make the best lacemakers!! I've just logged on and yes I was totally affronted with that statement too. Let me put it in

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread Clay Blackwell
Thanks, Anna!! I appreciate another voice who understands what I have said!! Generalities just don't apply to those who are skilled at making lace! Clay On 7/7/2013 8:03 PM, Anna Binnie wrote: On 7/07/13 11:13 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote: I am astonished that no one has challenged the

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2013-07-07 Thread lynrbailey
If we get the lacemaking club to be on a par with the chess club, we will have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. Probably beyond the wildest dreams of anyone. Let's begin by getting schools to allow a poster advertising a separate lace club. What skills does lacemaking develop that will

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2008-10-01 Thread Sister Claire
Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who so generously offered advice and support! The girls are going to be thrilled! I'm excited, too. It will be quite a challenge, teaching kids to lace when I've never had a real lesson myself! Thanks so much, Sr. Claire - To unsubscribe send email to

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2008-10-01 Thread bev walker
Hello Miriam and everyone Right - the camping mats are excellent for BL pillows. I made several round cookies from one, by stacking several layers in decreasing circumference. Fiddly to cut, but once firmly bound around a flat round they are nice and light. I stapled cloth over them, around to

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2008-09-30 Thread Sue Babbs
How lovely that they are interested. Yes, I've seen people working on the opposite side of the same pillow. I'm sure it's harder but better than nothing while you get them started. I taught children in an after-school class at the local school for a few years, and found the attached fish

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2008-09-30 Thread Antje González
Hello Sister Claire. Perhaps some of the purists of Arachne will tell me off for what I am going to say. But... I think that for a start, and not having proper pillows to teach, you could make a pillow from anything you have near. I started making bobbin lace with a piece of white polystyrene

Re: [lace] Teaching children

2008-09-30 Thread Daphne Martin
Have you any odd bits of poltstyrene about your home?? If not you could ask at a shop for the polystyrene packaging. They usually throw it away anyway. Or a builders merchant which sells block of polystyrene. It will make two good pillows. I hope this helps you. Daphne Cold grey Norfolk England

Re: [lace] teaching children

2004-01-15 Thread Eva Von Der Bey
Dear Helen, my daughter, now 9, made her first attempts at age of 5. in between, i taught the first stitches to about ten more children, mostly during holidays, so there were only a few days to finish at least a little bookmark. Those children were from eight to ten years old. if possible, I