Re: [lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Jean Leader]

On 2 Apr 2016, at 22:56, Jean Reardon  wrote:

> I am an IOLI member and have considered joining the Lace Guild, also, but I 
> live in
> the US. …. Do you know if it is possible to pay that through Paypal?

Yes, it is possible to pay for Lace Guild membership using PayPal - if you go 
to 

https://www.laceguild.org/guild/membership.html

you can download an application form which has that as one of the payment 
options.

Note that the membership year runs from 1st July.  

Jean in damp Glasgow

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RE: [lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Jean Reardon]

Hi Jane,
You seem to be well versed in things pertaining to the Lace Guild. I am an
IOLI member and have considered joining the Lace Guild, also, but I live in
the US. In addition to supporting such a worthwhile organization, their
magazine is quite nice. I've enjoyed some issues obtained through the IOLI
library. Looking online, annual membership is $42 in US currency. Do you
know if it is possible to pay that through Paypal? I'm sending this to the
list because others may also be wondering about this.

Best regards,
Jean Reardon, Pennsylvania USA

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Re: [lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Jeriames]

I did something different this morning.  I addressed my memo to  Arachne, 
and typed my address in the "copy to" box.  Maybe that triggered  something 
causing my memo to be delivered to a wider audience?  I'm  now doing this 
again, to test it.
 
Wow!  Jane mentions internal office situations at The  Lace Guild.  I hope 
customers and potential members will not be  discouraged.  I like to focus 
on the bright side, and very much  appreciate 20 or more years of Lace Guild 
membership.  With  lots of Public Relations experience behind me, I prefer 
to  stress the best The Lace Guild has to offer.  
 
Every nation has their own holiday schedules, based on their history.  
Canada has Thanksgiving Day a month before the U.S., as an  example.  Good 
Friday, Easter Monday, May Day, Spring  Day, last Monday in August and Boxing 
Day 
- are not official holidays  in the U.S., though some may be optional.  I 
think it best to let what  I said be as was stated.  
 
Generally, not calling any business facility in another country on  Monday 
is all-around good advice.  I like reaching them between 10 and  11 a.m., so 
it is clearly before lunchtime.  Repeat: Just as soon as  your call is 
answered, state the nation you are calling from and ask not to  be put on hold 
or transferred to a phone that is not guaranteed  to be answered.  I use a 
Guild calendar to verify British  Bank Holidays, since I order 6 calendars 
each year to use as  gifts.  But, most people in other countries will not have 
that  advantage.  Arachne is an international group with 24 time zones,  and 
my recommendation takes time differences into account.  
 
My memo about where to get lower-priced used books took the  better part of 
a Saturday morning to write and edit, but I thought it might be  beneficial 
for all to be reminded about items The Lace Guild has for  sale.  
 
Jane has written about the library.  That may be where book  purchase 
orders are processed, but I would not assume so.  I was  writing about the 
products for sale, including the most recent list of used  books.  Quite 
different 
from borrowing a book in a lending library  available to in-country members.
 
I think the greatest benefit of belonging to The Lace Guild for anyone in  
another nation is The Lace Guild's quarterly  magazines!  They are something 
tangible to celebrate  internationally.  Please borrow one from a member, 
so you can see for  yourselves.  
 
A friend is still dealing with effects of a security breach that  occurred 
when Pay Pal was first introduced.  So, I never mention it as an  option.  
If you know it to be foolproof, by all means, use it.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center


 
In a message dated 4/2/2016 4:23:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mous...@live.co.uk writes:
 
... this is the first time in ages I've been able to see one of  Jeri's 
messages without the aid of the digest!

Just a couple of points.  No matter where you call from, if you are asking 
about something in the library  and it is a day when Sara is in the office, 
then you will be put on hold whilst  the call is transferred to her, and she 
may not be at her desk at that  particular moment. Calls during lunch are 
taken by the answerphone.  If  Sara is not in the office, then it may require 
a message to be taken and acted  upon later. The Guild currently has (or 
soon will have) a new member of staff in  training, and if s/he answers the 
phone s/he can't be expected to know  everything - at least, not for the first 
six months or so! So please be  patient..
 
Secondly, our Bank Holidays (in England and Wales; Scotland and NI)  are 
not that difficult to work out. New Years' Day (or the nearest Monday if it  
falls on a Saturday or Sunday); Good Friday, Easter Monday, the first (May 
Day)  and last (Spring) Mondays in May; the last Monday in August, Christmas 
Day and  Boxing Day (again, if these fall on Saturday or Sunday then the 
holiday is the  Monday or Monday and Tuesday). Most offices I have worked in 
take Monday and  Tuesday off for Easter and the Spring and August Bank 
Holidays, but I think the  staff at The Hollies only have the basic days. 
Friday is 
Members Day at The  Hollies.

Just occasionally we get an extra day at Her Majesty's command,  but not 
very often.

Jeri is correct, The Guild's membership has fallen  dramatically over the 
years to the point where membership income nowhere near  covers costs, so 
donations and legacies are very welcome (as they are with any  
charity).Guilds such as IOLI, OIDFA, The Lace Guild, etc are terrific  
resources for 
lacemakers and few realise that the relevant magazine is probably  the smallest 
benefit they can gain through their membership. The word "Guild"  can be 
off-putting for a new lacemaker, who might not think they are up to  
"standard", but believe me membership is probably one of the best moves a  
beginner 
can make, in having thousands of 

Fwd: [lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Lbuyred]

I also found some treasures on the list.  They are on their way to Raleigh.  I 
was able to handle the entire transaction via the Internet.  It was very 
convenient!
Liz in Raleigh, North Carolina

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[lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Jane Partridge]

Something's changed... this is the first time in ages I've been able to see one 
of Jeri's messages without the aid of the digest!

Just a couple of points. No matter where you call from, if you are asking about 
something in the library and it is a day when Sara is in the office, then you 
will be put on hold whilst the call is transferred to her, and she may not be 
at her desk at that particular moment. Calls during lunch are taken by the 
answerphone.  If Sara is not in the office, then it may require a message to be 
taken and acted upon later. The Guild currently has (or soon will have) a new 
member of staff in training, and if s/he answers the phone s/he can't be 
expected to know everything - at least, not for the first six months or so! So 
please be patient. Also, if you are phoning from abroad, it can be difficult to 
work out what is being said when lines are not clear and accents not familiar - 
I have to cover reception at work two days a week and there are times when I 
have to ask people to repeat themselves two or three times before I can work 
out what has been said - there are slight differences !
 between US and UK English which can also make comprehension difficult!

Secondly, our Bank Holidays (in England and Wales; Scotland and NI do their own 
thing!) are not that difficult to work out. New Years' Day (or the nearest 
Monday if it falls on a Saturday or Sunday); Good Friday, Easter Monday, the 
first (May Day) and last (Spring) Mondays in May; the last Monday in August, 
Christmas Day and Boxing Day (again, if these fall on Saturday or Sunday then 
the holiday is the Monday or Monday and Tuesday). Most offices I have worked in 
take Monday and Tuesday off for Easter and the Spring and August Bank Holidays, 
but I think the staff at The Hollies only have the basic days. Friday is 
Members Day at The Hollies.

Just occasionally we get an extra day at Her Majesty's command, but not very 
often.

Jeri is correct, The Guild's membership has fallen dramatically over the years 
to the point where membership income nowhere near covers costs, so donations 
and legacies are very welcome (as they are with any charity). I hate to think 
what effect the latest Government rulings on minimum (living wage) pay and 
employers' pension contributions are going to have - it will make survival 
difficult for many small charities and businesses, I'm sure. Guilds such as 
IOLI, OIDFA, The Lace Guild, etc are terrific resources for lacemakers and few 
realise that the relevant magazine is probably the smallest benefit they can 
gain through their membership. The word "Guild" can be off-putting for a new 
lacemaker, who might not think they are up to "standard", but believe me 
membership is probably one of the best moves a beginner can make, in having 
thousands of patterns, advice, information and contacts at their fingertips 
either an email or phone call away. No money to buy books? Or the one y!
 ou want is out of print? Your annual subscription may give you access to a 
library you can borrow it from.  As they say, use it or lose it.

Jane Partridge
mous...@live.co.uk


> From: jeria...@aol.com
> Here is a first-rate suggestion:
> Jean Leader announced March 26th - on Arachne - the "used book" sale at 
> The Lace Guild in England, as follows:  
> AT callers from U.S. should dial 011 + 44 - 1384 390739 Immediately 
> tell the person who answers that you are calling from the U.S., so you won't 
> be put on "hold".
> We never know when the Monday "bank holidays" are, so call other days of 
> the week.


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Re: [lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[J Reardon]

I agree about the benefits of the book sale. When Jean Leader announced the 
Lace Guild book sale, I checked the list right away and found a couple 
treasures. They are already on their way to me in Pennsylvania. I emailed the 
librarian to see if they were still available. She is only there 2 days a week 
so I didn't get an immediate response, but I heard back from her on her next 
workday. She was able to email an invoice to me with a Paypal payment option. 
Push of a button, login, and it was done. So quick and easy! The PayPal screen 
shows the price in pounds and dollars, so there is no uncertainty about price.

Jean Reardon
In cold and windy western PA where I am concerned about the flower buds on my 
tree freezing.

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Re: [lace] General questions re: roseground & Duchesse pins

[Susan]

Oh dear, I missed the pin instructions on pg4!  Who doesn't just leap to the 
pricking that calls one's name?  (vbg).  My fault for "practicing" with the 
Duchesse pins--I just used them as regular pins, rather than pushing them down 
on a cookie pillow.  My "go to" pins are the Iris superfein.  I was trying to 
get a feel for using the Duchesse pins so that I could handle them efficiently 
when I switch to my small roller pillow.  This roller pillow is an eye-catching 
purple with ribbon rosette trim & when used with my beaded Mechlin bobbins, the 
whole set up is a magnet during a demo.  Since these miniature edgings use only 
a few pair, I figured I could stay on task even when interrupted with 
questions.  The Duchesse pins are actually a solution to my previous problem 
with gathered passives on a footside when using the roller.  If I understand 
you correctly, Duchesse pins should be reserved for pushing all the way down 
into the pillow.  Can do!  Since I couldn't pull up the loo!
 ps in my sample, perhaps they are not in the passives after all?  It was a 
forest of pins indeed!  It looks like I need to take a pic & zoom in on my 
monitor because I cannot ferret out the thread paths even with glasses & 
magnifiers.  As to consolidating the roseground steps, I worked thru the 
passives, back out to the edge, then thru the cloth stitch & twist "corner" & 
tensioned the whole lot on one side before switching to the other side to 
repeat.  Working in the middle, the "rose" itself doesn't lend to any 
consolidation.  It doesn't seem like 2.5 rows of cloth stitch should be too 
much to tension but something clearly went awry.  I am very fond of roseground 
so would like to improve my technique.  Finding a reliable way to speed it 
up--without loops--would be even better!  The next time I work this pattern, I 
do want to try it on the roller.  In the meantime, while my sample isn't going 
to win any lacemaking prizes (!!), it doesn't look half bad with 2mm silk 
ribbon w!
 oven thru so will suit my purposes for a CQ block.  Thank you for your
 suggestions Adele.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA 

Sent from my iPad

>From Adele:

I wonder if when you consolidated you started making a several stitches before 
tensioning, because yes, that could have made little loops, but the loops 
probably wouldn’t be in the passives at the edges. Usually the edge passives 
are the easiest to tension.
> 
> Usually the only thing I’ve found that makes loops is if I’m accidentally 
> getting the thread wound around the pin, or somehow winding it around more 
> than one pin. That is easy to do in these miniature lace patterns, because 
> there are so many pins you cannot clearly see the pattern as you’re making 
> it. 
> 
>  I see in the instructions (p.4) that you did not need to use the Duchesse 
> pins on your sample - the longer & larger 30 x .55 mm Newey pins are what she 
> recommends for this particular pattern. The Duchesse pins were only intended 
> for use with the extremely fine 170/2 cotton, which is only used in four or 
> five of the patterns in the book.
> 
>> 

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[lace] Used book prices - The Lace Guild's book offerings

[Jeriames]

Our British lace friends are far too modest about the riches they have  
created, so I'll toot a horn for them - again.  (I note they do have  an 
"Introduction to Milanese Lace" by Pat Read for sale for 6 British  pounds.)
 
As the owner of over 1,000 lace books I know devils will try to price  them 
out of reach.  These are probably lazy guys sitting at home in their  
underwear and playing book dealer, even when they don't have a book in  stock.  
They price the book high, so they can then go and buy the book from  another 
source at a lower price - to fill your order and pocket the  difference.  
 
Here is a first-rate suggestion:
 
Jean Leader announced March 26th - on Arachne - the "used book" sale  at 
The Lace Guild in England, as follows: 
 
https://www.laceguild.org/suppliers/books.html - just click on Books for  
Sale for the PDF file.

Though used Milanese books by Read are  not in this installment, I have 
filled in many gaps in my lace  library by purchasing in this way.  Go and have 
a look.  You'll  be surprised what has been donated by members - to be put 
back in  circulation.  The Lace Guild raises money, and you buy used books 
at fair  prices.  They have an office with paid staff, and a small museum -  
dependent on dues and funds raised.  
 
AT callers from U.S. should dial 011 + 44 - 1384  390739   Immediately 
tell the person who answers that you are calling  from the U.S., so you won't 
be put on "hold".
 
We never know when the Monday "bank holidays" are, so call other days of  
the week.  I get a lift from a cheery British-accented greeting that is  well 
worth the cost of the call.  I order the books I want and give my  credit 
info over the phone (which I consider the safest way).  Please  remember the 
British Isles are 5 hours ahead of New York City Time.  I aim  for 10-11 
a.m. British time. 
 
Read the entire offering of Guild products on-line so you  understand the 
prices.  Make a neat list to read from, that you will  e-mail with your 
mailing address - to confirm.  Pre-order  calendars for 2017, and solve some 
Christmas shopping challenges.   Join The Lace Guild, and you will love the 
Quarterly Bulletins and the  contents - all submitted by volunteers.  The 
Bulletins are 64 pages, packed  with color photography.  Do not compare cost to 
IOLI memberships  without taking this into account.  Yes, postage is high.  
Blame it on  9/11/01 and the added security measures required of postal 
authorities all  over the world.
 
Pegin:  Have you checked what Louise Colgan has published about  Milanese 
Lace?  She teaches nationally - all over the U.S. 
 
Everyone still with me?   In lace friendship 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Lace in Rauma

[Tess Parrish]

I suppose that because the Congress in Turku, Finland 1996, was the first OIDFA 
Congress I attended, it has always remained fresh in my mind, a happy 
experience to say the least.  Added to that is the fact that one of the 
teachers at the Rauma workshop has been my Christmas correspondent over all 
these years.  She was the translator for the teacher, a great help to us all, 
and I remember with gratitude all that they taught us.  

I have all my prickings and class examples along with my notes and finished 
pieces.  I also have the complete folder of patterns collected from lacemakers 
from everywhere, always included by OIDFA for attenders.  

I have been to almost every OIDFA Congress since then, but Turku and Rauma 
still will always remain my favorite.  

Tess (in Maine, USA, where I found my first crocus yesterday. Ahhh, spring!)

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Re: [lace] Re: Milanese books

[The Lace Bee]

Jane is absolutely right here. Someone sees that there is interest in a book 
and the price goes up resulting in no one buying it. The author gets nothing 
for a second hand book, the lace maker can't afford to own and use it and the 
seller ends up with an unsold book. 

However hubby suggested that this is more likely to be speculation on  the 
sellers part. Put a book up for oudles of money that you don't have and if some 
mark is stupid enough to ask to buy it then you can afford to go get a copy. 
The other thought hubby had was it creates an artificial price rose for other 
lace books so the seller can add a few extra pounds to less rare craft books 
and say that this was because lace books are going for such high prices. 

L

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Apr 2016, at 22:45, Jane Partridge  wrote:
> 
> They might be listed at silly prices, but do any actually sell?

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