Re: [lace] Niven Flanders Pattern 11 Observation and Question

2003-09-01 Thread Ruth Budge
At the risk of being shot down for advertising, I'll say:  I use Lace 2000.  To
me, having tried the others, I find this the easiest to use - because of the
amount of lacemaker input, it's the nearest thing, in my opinion, to the
traditional way of doing things, by hand.

Imagine the computer screen as a sheet of graph paper, and the mouse button as
a pencil, to put symbols on the page, you simply click on the appropriate
button according to whether you want to put dots or tallies or roseground
symbols on the page, then click on the page.  Minimal computer skills are
needed, although there are a few little tricks, which was why I wrote a book
about it.

Of course, there are many extra buttons and tools you can use to make the job
quicker, but if you only want to use it the basic way, you can.

I once tried one of the CAD programmes, just for the fun of it.  I had the 1
1/2 thick instruction book, plus a smaller book, I think written by Deborah
Robinson (?) especially for lacemakers.   I spent HOURS playing, and finally
managed to put just *one dot* on the page!  

Result:  I decided to stick to Lace 2000
I'll say again - I neither sell, nor do I benefit from sales of the programme -
any work I do in connection with the programme is free, with the exception of
the very small amount I make from the sale of my book.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)



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[lace] Re: Just look at these spangles on ebay

2003-09-01 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 17:56 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote:

Doesn't look like the person who spangled these knows what spangles  
are for.
And what a price for 'a set' of plain bobbins and a book.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3240254071category=114
Never forget the thread! g And, badly spangled or not, there must be  
value in all those beads, if they're really semi-precious stones as  
specified...

Speaking of strange spangles... :)

One of the-then (early on; 96? 97?) Arachneans, from US, who had been  
making other lace (tatted, I think, but can't swear to it), was lucky  
enough to come accross a 10-week BL course within sensible driving  
limits, and she jumped at the chance. Came to the first class, was  
given a pattern and shown how to make a pricking out of it, bought a  
set of bobbins and some beads from the teacher, and was sent home to  
spangle and wind the bobbins... A spangle should consist of 5-7 beads,  
with the biggest bead at the bottom -- she was told.

She'd never *seen* spangled (or any other, for that matter) bobbins  
before, but didn't like to *ask*, being the youngest in the group and  
-- she felt -- the most un-clued...  So she went home and did her best.  
Came back to class the following week... with the only set of bobbins  
spangled as a *straight* dangle -- a loop in the wire at the bottom (to  
keep the beads from falling off), then a row of beads (starting with  
the biggest, ending with the smallest), then through the holes in the  
bobbin's shank, then back down a bit, ending in a wrap, and hiding the  
cut in the top two beads...

That was before so many people had websites, digital cameras, etc, so  
we never saw the  pictures of her best shot at spangles; we only ever  
heard the story. But the spangles on E-Bay reminded me of it... :)
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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland

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[lace] Re: Prague in 2004

2003-09-01 Thread LACEELAIN
In a message dated 8/21/2003 8:37:17 PM GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OIDFA in PRAGUE
  And now I hear that OIDFA will be in Prague in 2004 and I've been looking
  for an excuse to go back to Prague as it's such a wonderful city, and I was
  planning to go to Europe next summer anyway... it's starting to feel as if
  it's meant to be.  Would a novice albeit enthusiastic lacemaker be out of
  place?  Is anyone else on Arachne thinking of going?  Is it expensive
  (relatively speaking and given that I likely have accommodation)?  I will
  have to start looking into this seriously!

Anyone interested in lace will be welcome at the OIDFA Congress in Prague, 
and activities are being planned for all.  There will be classes, lectures, 
tours, .. the lot.
This summer, prices were certainly lower than in France or Germany..  
Restaurant prices in particular were very cheap. There are hotels and pensions in all 
categories.
Bus and metro travel is also a very good buy.

I have already sent information to Arachne about coming to the  Congress next 
year. I was there this summer and found Prague a very easy city to access.  
People are friendly and most seem to understand and speak English as well as 
many European languages.  I flew from London on Czech Air .  Other delegates 
from London came by bus and some by train.  
OIDFA members will have early access to information about housing, etc.

Elaine Merritt
The Lace Museum
552 South Murphy Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
tel. (408) 730 4695

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3729

2003-09-01 Thread LACEELAIN
In a message dated 8/19/2003 9:39:53 AM GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I need urgently help: I have to wash a lace 
   (silk
   lace) I have to sew on silk for a wedding pillow and I do not know how 
   can I
   wash it! the thread was white but by working it became grey, could 
   you
   help me please?
I 'm still catching up with lace digests and this plea may well have been 
answered already.  
However, if not, the product to use is called Orvus.  It is a special 
synthetic soap that is PH neutral, very mild, and perfect for lace. The Lace Museum 
sells it in small jars.  A little goes a very long way.  


Elaine Merritt
The Lace Museum
552 South Murphy Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
tel. (408) 730 4695

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[lace] Computer programs

2003-09-01 Thread Jean Nathan
I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to make
the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
already know how to make a small elipse with this program.

I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in
the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able
to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
pricking into a technical drawing.

On the other hand, I'm quite happy with graph paper and pencil.

I also managed to turn Steph's pre-prepared grids of dots pale blue with
Paint Shop Pro so I can see my black dots and markings more easily, but
can't remember how I got it perfect. Since the first one, the grids have
been distorted when I open them, so I need to concentrate and write down how
to do it. Particularly useful for non-45 degree grids.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] ADMIN: Virus hoax

2003-09-01 Thread Avital Pinnick
Please disregard Toni's virus warning. It is a well known hoax: 
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/jdbgmgr.htm. If you already deleted that file, 
don't worry. Unless you're a Java programmer you'll never miss it.

I advise everyone to bookmark http://www.snopes.com and to check virus warnings 
before sending them on.

Please, to repeat what I've said earlier. Do not send virus warnings to the list. Feel 
free to send them to me and I can check them out for you if you're not sure how.

Best wishes,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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Re: [lace] Computer programs

2003-09-01 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
am 01.09.2003 9:41 Uhr schrieb Jean Nathan unter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
 which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to make
 the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
 just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
 It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
 already know how to make a small elipse with this program.
 
 I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in
 the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able
 to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is
 the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the
 pricking into a technical drawing.
 
 On the other hand, I'm quite happy with graph paper and pencil.
 
 I also managed to turn Steph's pre-prepared grids of dots pale blue with
 Paint Shop Pro so I can see my black dots and markings more easily, but
 can't remember how I got it perfect. Since the first one, the grids have
 been distorted when I open them, so I need to concentrate and write down how
 to do it. Particularly useful for non-45 degree grids.
 
 Jean in Poole
 
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Hello lacefriends,
In my opinion one can use every fine design-Software you have or belong to
your PC.
I visited a class where the teacher used Coral-Draw, I was handicaped it was
for Windows and I am a Apple-user. But I managed it but I got the impression
that it is to much work. If you are a teacher and needed dozens of copies
than it is perhaps worth. I find it easier to use grids when you will do
something with laces who have one. But if you, like me design free pattern
than you couldn't use Knipling or Easy-lace. Than you need a professional
design-programm and/or a painting board.
Ilske from Hamburg in Germany

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Re: [lace] Channer's Mat/ challenge

2003-09-01 Thread palmhaven
If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your pillow in
the position that this doll has her pillow?  O.K. girls, What else can you
find wrong with this picture? Have fun!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948055885

Sylvia Andrews

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Re: [lace] Channer's Mat/ challenge

2003-09-01 Thread Angel Skubic
Normally I don't respond to Ebay messages but this one did make me
laugh...the Bolster is backwards the bobbins are tangled, she definitely
isn't tatting (I copied the following excerpt from the description on the
page)

Bobbin Lace is actually sitting tatting lace on her pillow (bolster)
with the thread tied to individual bobbins.

Anyway, it was pretty humorous.

Cearbhael


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 If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your pillow
in
 the position that this doll has her pillow?  O.K. girls, What else can you
 find wrong with this picture? Have fun!

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948055885

 Sylvia Andrews

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Re: [lace] Re Change the Subject

2003-09-01 Thread Edith Holmes
Having learned much of my Bedfordshre lacemaking from Barbara's books, I'm
thankful that I'm lucky enough to have two weekends with her each year, at
Knuston Hall.  Good food, lovely place, Marvellous teacher.  What more could
I want, except more of them ?  We have one student who comes from Japan each
year for one of the weekends!

Best wishes

Edith
North Nottinghamshire
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[lace] doll with lace

2003-09-01 Thread Esther Perry
 If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your pillow in
the position that this doll has her pillow?  O.K. girls, What else can you
find wrong with this picture? Have fun!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948055885 

Pillow lace? My foot, that's machine-made lace!

What else?  Looks like working in that position has obviously gotten to 
herher eyes have gone purple! bg

Yea, well, yours would too, if you would try to tat to make pillow lace 
backwards. ;-))
On top of that, the paint-colour on her face doesn't match the eyes, and 
I'm not
overly impressed with the painting around the eyes - any other 
doll-makers here?

Anyway, if they are wanting like $1000. and I assume that US$, for this 
doll, certainly
they could have put in a couple of hours of making REAL lace for her!

Vicki in Maryland where we are waiting for another string of thunderstorms
 

Esther in British Columbia where there seems to be no end to summer

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[lace] Your Bedfordshire colleague

2003-09-01 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Could your annual Beds colleague from Japan be the talented and beautiful
Wako Ono, whom I met in 1999 during Pam Nottingham's farewell class in
Bucks design?  --  Aurelia

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3764

2003-09-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 08:43 AM, lace-digest wrote:

Someone from the states was amazed that I wouldn't drive to Birmingham, UK
for a meeting - which is only 170 miles away.
They told me that it would only take them 2 1/2 hours
2 1/2 hours would mean going at 70mph all the way which is the legal speed 
limit on the motorway, it's less on the smaller roads either end, not to 
mention the fact that very often impossible to get to anything like that 
speed for much of the journey.  4 hours from London to Birmingham is more 
realistic but you have to be prepared to take longer during rush hour or if 
there are road works or traffic accident on the way.
Brenda

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[lace] Re: computer programs

2003-09-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 08:43 AM, Jean wrote wrote:

I keep thinking about using a computer, but still haven't made up my mind
which way to go. I've got CorelDraw, but until someone tells me how to make
the page full size and put a dot on it (and I used to teach computing!!)
just to get me started, I don't seem to have time to start exploring that.
It's all very well saying make a small elipse and then copy it if you
already know how to make a small elipse with this program.
I think that what it really comes down to is:
Whichever CAD program you already have and/or know how to use is the one 
for you.

BL patterns are only dots and lines positioned quite precisely, and the 
magnetic 'snap-to' positioning in any CAD software will take care of that.
  A dot is either a very short line or a filled circle and a line is either 
straight or curved.  All the other symbols used by lacemakers are 
combinations of these - a leaf/tally is two curved lines, with a coloured 
fill if you wish, rose ground is four straight lines etc etc.

Make yourself a grid, (or set of grids), one roseground symbol, a 2x2 
spider, a 3x3 spider etc and use them over and over again.  The dedicated 
lace design programs such as Lace2000 make the process easier, especially 
if you don't already use anything else but if you do use what you have and 
know.

Brenda

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[lace] BL - Tatting doll on ebay

2003-09-01 Thread
  If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your
pillow in
  the position that this doll has her pillow?  O.K. girls, What else can
you
  find wrong with this picture? Have fun!
  
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948055885 

From a costuming perspective, she wouldn't be wearing a printed
dress/chemise under a basic Scots/Irish overdress.  And we all know that
lace makers didn't actually wear their own lace.  Then all that hair... it
should be pulled back, tucked into her bonnet, something -- otherwise she'd
be lacing her hair into her lace.

Beth McCasland
Metairie, Louisiana, USA
(a suburb of New Orleans, where it was hot and muggy AGAIN today)

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Re: [lace] Channer's Mat/ challenge

2003-09-01 Thread ann DURANT
Apart from the fact that she is tatting machine lace on her pillow?
(Since it's tatting, I don't suppose it matters that the pillow is facing
the wrong way!)  It reminds me of an advert on television in Britain at
present - it's about checking details - and there is this HUGE doll sitting
outside on the grass, and the recipient is saying Did you think 'Tiny Tina'
was meant to be IRONIC!?  (The measurements had, apparently, been given in
METRES).

Ann in Manchester, UK

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If you really want a challenge, why not try making lace with your pillow in
the position that this doll has her pillow?  O.K. girls, What else can you
find wrong with this picture? Have fun!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948055885

Sylvia Andrews

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Re: [lace] somebody made my PC sick - I'm sorry, but :

2003-09-01 Thread Dora Smith
Always look up the specific virus on the web before you do anything else -
this looks like a virus hoax, and they can have you deleting important files
from your computer.   Search google under the alleged virus name, or check
on something like the symantech web site.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, Texas
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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:21 AM
Subject: [lace] somebody made my PC sick - I'm sorry, but :


 I got this message today and must forward it -
 I hope you do *not* find it ! but if you *find* the
 named virus, you must follow the instructions
 to get rid of it from your computer and send this
 message on to all the people in your address
 book . . . I had *two copies* of the virus on my
 PC - and my Norton Antivirus did *not* find it
 when I did my daily manual update today.

 If you have trouble following instructions, it
 would be easier to *print* them and then
 follow along step by step . . .

  -- Original Message --
  From: Ric g guile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:41 AM
  Subject: sorry
 
  Unfortunately a virus has been pass on to me by a contact
  My address book was infected.
  Since you are in my address book, there is a good chance
  you will find it on your computer, too.
  My sincere apologies but I have been an innocent party, too.
 
  The virus - jdbgmgr.exe - is not detected by Norton or McAfee.
  antivirus systems.  It sits quietly for 14 days before damaging
  the system. It is sent automatically by Messenger and by your
  address book, whether or not you sent e-mail to your contacts.
 
  Here is how to find it and get rid of it.
 
  YOU MUST DO THIS MANUALLY.
 
  1.  Go to Start on the status bar.
  2.  Open Search or Find.
  3.  In the filename option, type jdbgmgr.exe
  4.  Search your C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives.
  5.  Click on find now.
  6.  The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT
OPEN IT
 !!
  7.  Go to Edit on the Menu bar and choose select all, highlighting
the
 virus but not opening it.
  8.  Go to File on the Menu bar and choose delete. The virus will be
sent
 to your recycle/wastebasket.
  9.  Open your wastebasket and delete the virus from there.
 10.  IF THE VIRUS WAS IN YOUR COMPUTER, YOU MUST ALERT ALL THE PEOPLE IN
YOUR
 ADDRESS BOOK.
 11.  Open a new e-mail.
 12.  Open your address book.
 13.  Put some names in the To: line and the rest in the Cc: line
 14.  Copy this message and paste it into the body.
 15.  Send.

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[lace] somebody made my PC sick - I'm sorry, but :

2003-09-01 Thread Toni Hawryluk
I got this message today and must forward it -
I hope you do *not* find it ! but if you *find* the
named virus, you must follow the instructions
to get rid of it from your computer and send this
message on to all the people in your address
book . . . I had *two copies* of the virus on my
PC - and my Norton Antivirus did *not* find it
when I did my daily manual update today.

If you have trouble following instructions, it
would be easier to *print* them and then
follow along step by step . . .

 -- Original Message --
 From: Ric g guile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:41 AM
 Subject: sorry

 Unfortunately a virus has been pass on to me by a contact
 My address book was infected.
 Since you are in my address book, there is a good chance
 you will find it on your computer, too.
 My sincere apologies but I have been an innocent party, too.

 The virus - jdbgmgr.exe - is not detected by Norton or McAfee.
 antivirus systems.  It sits quietly for 14 days before damaging
 the system. It is sent automatically by Messenger and by your
 address book, whether or not you sent e-mail to your contacts.

 Here is how to find it and get rid of it.

 YOU MUST DO THIS MANUALLY.

 1.  Go to Start on the status bar.
 2.  Open Search or Find.
 3.  In the filename option, type jdbgmgr.exe
 4.  Search your C: drive and all subfolders and any other drives.
 5.  Click on find now.
 6.  The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT
!!
 7.  Go to Edit on the Menu bar and choose select all, highlighting the
virus but not opening it.
 8.  Go to File on the Menu bar and choose delete. The virus will be sent
to your recycle/wastebasket.
 9.  Open your wastebasket and delete the virus from there.
10.  IF THE VIRUS WAS IN YOUR COMPUTER, YOU MUST ALERT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR
ADDRESS BOOK.
11.  Open a new e-mail.
12.  Open your address book.
13.  Put some names in the To: line and the rest in the Cc: line
14.  Copy this message and paste it into the body.
15.  Send.

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[lace-chat] Re: Name for a girl hedgehog

2003-09-01 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 12:31 US/Eastern, Allison E. Moss-Fritch 
wrote:

set of names for a couple (even of hedgehogs) , Trafton and Afton
simply has a lovely lilt to it!
g But be careful about Afton... :) As one travels from Lexington to 
Charlottesville, one has to go over the Afton mountain. Not only is 
it a *big* mountain (some lovely views at about half way up, though the 
view spot is not always open), it's temperamental -- throad is almost 
always foggy, and, in winter time, slippery as well. IOW, dangerous 
most of the time... :)

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[lace-chat] Re: Preserving for the future

2003-09-01 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 08:01 US/Eastern, A Thompson wrote:

Any loose photos I held onto card sheets with minuscule bits of 
blue-tack (don't know USA name for this)
Blue-tack :) Or it was, when I was still into miniatures (before 
lace, which makes it about 13.5 yrs at least).

One thing you might want to consider: I used blue-tack to keep some 
bits in the dollhouse (housed on library shelves) in place.  
Blue-tack doesn't seem to affect most materials (finished wood, metal, 
plastic, glass) but the paper backings on the embroidered paintings 
have developed oily stains which were almost as bad as those I got from 
using softened wax (pre-blue-tack).

You might not want to keep the blue-tack on your photos for any length 
of time, even in miniscule proportions; it seems to react with paper...

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[lace-chat] chutney

2003-09-01 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone, especially Liz who was stirring her chutney
I'm curious  - what's in your chutney?

I bought some Ring of Fire peppers today - they are so hot that when I
opened the plastic bag they were in to check on them, and ooh
they smelled good and hot and my eyes started to water ;)

I don't know what I'll use the peppers for. Maybe some salsa.
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bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace-chat] chutney

2003-09-01 Thread Thelacebee
Chutney - basically:

4lb of fruit - which in our case was apples and tomatoes, 
1lb of onions - we used 1/2 lb onions, 1/2 lb shallots, 
2pts of vinegar (we used cider and raspberry because it was in the cupboard)
1lb sultanas
1 1/2 lb medium soft brown sugar
plus one rounded teaspoon each of ground ginger, cinnamon, mixed spice and mustard 
plus one level teaspoon mild chilli powder.

Bring to the boil, then simmer for 3 - 5 hours until reduced and thick and great 
looking.

Then bottle up in jars.

I now smell of chutney.

BTW - Chutney is a 19th Century Hindu word 'Chatni' - apparently before that we had 
pickles and savoury marmalades but chutney describes a preserve with fruit, vinegar 
and spices.

Regards

Liz
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Hi everyone, especially Liz who was stirring her chutney
I'm curious  - what's in your chutney?

I bought some Ring of Fire peppers today - they are so hot that when I
opened the plastic bag they were in to check on them, and ooh
they smelled good and hot and my eyes started to water ;)

I don't know what I'll use the peppers for. Maybe some salsa.
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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[lace-chat] glue-fabric

2003-09-01 Thread Jean Peach
I have been sorting many things in my workroom, I took the top of my sewing
box
which I made some years ago at a workshop.  It is the box with six sides,
you
take the lid of and put the box in the lid so that the sides can  open
outwards.  I
found that the box sides had come unglued, I noticed where I had used glue
to put the box together the material had gone brown.  I have this time used
PVA glue to glue the box back together, I rather like using this workbox,
with
the pockets and tapes inside, surprising how much I can get into the box. I
just can't remember what the glue was that I used.  My DH said perhaps I
should make another box, we are now wondering how long the glue will last.

Jean in Newbury

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Chutney recipe

2003-09-01 Thread Sue Babbs
Sold as golden raisins in the Midwest
Sue

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 Most USA readers wont know what sultanas are.
 They are dried fruit like raisins made from sultana grapes
 and are lighter in color. Health food stores might have them.
 
 Pene Piip

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[lace-chat] photos and blue-tack

2003-09-01 Thread A Thompson
Sorry, forgot to say I removed the blue-tack as soon as the photo-copies
were done. Then the ancestor photos were put back into the filing cabinet
(shoe-boxes).  Blue-tack does leave a slight mark if left on for any length
of time, also it can go hard.

I use it for all sorts of things, including holding samples in place when
photographing items for publication. At one time I used extension tubes on
my old fashioned camera for close-ups of textiles, bead-work etc. But I
dropped the rings and they have not worked properly since. So this means
that instead of photographing things on my photo-copy-stand which holds the
camera dead level and steady pointing downwards, I have to prop things
upright and photo using the tripod and a tele-photo lens on macro which
comes out just as well. I took the photos for the Romanian Point Lace book
this way. Judge for yourselves if you have the opportunity. I write articles
for the Beadworker's Guild Journal and when photographing beadwork,
sometimes the blue-tack gets caught in the beadwork and has to be winkled
out afterwards with a pin.

I would love to know the unusual things that other people use blue-tack for.
Angela In Worcestershire UK. Sunny days, chilly autumn evenings.
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[lace-chat] many Bobbins

2003-09-01 Thread Jean Peach
I have just found a couple of photos that I took when I was  at the Beveren
conference
in Belgium, 1200 bobbins on the pillow, whilst working the lace the bobbins
are
piled high.  When it is time for them to go to bed they are tied up in
hankies, layered
again, one on top of the other. I have to admit I was so intrigued I sat
quietly what the
lace maker at work.

Jean in Newbury UK

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[lace-chat] Great Quotes from Great Ladies

2003-09-01 Thread W N Lafferty
 Great Quotes by Great Ladies! 
 
Inside every older person is a younger 
person -- wondering what the hell happened.. 
-Cora Harvey Armstrong- 
 
The hardest years in life are 
those between ten and seventy. 
-Helen Hayes (at 73)- 
 
I refuse to think of them as chin 
hairs. I think of them as stray eyebrows. 
-Janette Barber- 
 
Things are going to get a lot worse 
before they get worse. 
-Lily Tomlin- 
 
A male gynecologist is like an auto 
mechanic who never owned a car. 
-Carrie Snow- 
 
Laugh and the world laughs with you. 
Cry and you cry with your girlfriends. 
-Laurie Kuslansky- 
 
My second favorite household chore is ironing. 
My first being, hitting my head on the 
top bunk bed until I faint. 
-Erma Bombeck- 
 
Old age ain't no place for sissies. 
-Bette Davis- 
 
A man's got to do what a man's got to do. 
A woman must do what he can't. 
-Rhonda Hansome- 
 
The phrase working mother is redundant. 
-Jane Sellman- 
 
Every time I close the door on reality 
it comes in through the windows. 
-Jennifer Unlimited- 
 
Whatever women must do they must do 
twice as well as men to be thought half 
as good. Luckily, this is not difficult. 
-Charlotte Whitton- 
 
Thirty-five is when you finally get your head 
together and your body starts falling apart. 
-Caryn Leschen- 
 
I try to take one day at a time, but 
sometimes several days attack me at once. 
-Jennifer Unlimited- 
 
If you can't be a good example, then you'll 
just have to be a horrible warning. 
-Catherine- 
 
When I was young, I was put in a 
school for retarded kids for two years 
before they realized I actually had a 
hearing loss. And they called ME slow! 
-Kathy Buckley- 
 
I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde 
jokes because I know I'm not 
dumb ... and I'm also not blonde. 
-Dolly Parton- 
 
If high heels were so wonderful, men 
would still be wearing them. 
-Sue Grafton- 
 
I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears 
makes one you can ride on. 
-Roseanne Barr- 
 
When women are depressed they either eat 
or go shopping. Men invade another country. 
-Elayne Boosler- 
 
Behind every successful man is a surprised woman. 
-Maryon Pearson- 
 
In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man- 
if you want anything done, ask a woman. 
-M argaret Thatcher- 
 
I have yet to hear a man ask for advice 
on how to combine marriage and a career. 
-Gloria Steinem- 
 
I am a marvelous housekeeper. 
Every time I leave a man I keep his house. 
-Zsa Zsa Gabor- 
 
Nobody can make you feel inferior 
without your permission. 
-Eleanor Roosevelt- 
 

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[lace-chat] :-) Who's on what?

2003-09-01 Thread Jean Nathan
ABBOTT: Computer Support Group.  Can I help you?

COSTELLO: Thanks.  I'm setting up a home office in the den, and I'm thinking
of
buying a computer.

ABBOTT: Mac?

COSTELLO: No, the name is Lou.

ABBOTT: Your computer?

COSTELLO: I don't own a computer.  I want to buy one.

ABBOTT: Mac?

COSTELLO: I told you, my name is Lou.

ABBOTT: What about Windows?

COSTELLO: Why?  Does it get stuffy?

ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows?

COSTELLO: I don't know.  What do I see when I look out the windows?

ABBOTT: Wallpaper.

COSTELLO: Never mind the windows.  I need a computer and software.

ABBOTT: Software that runs on Windows?

COSTELLO: No, on the computer!  I need something I can use to write
proposals,
track expenses.  You know, run a business..  What have you got?

ABBOTT: Office

COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office.  Can you recommend anything?

ABBOTT: I just did.

COSTELLO: You just did what?

ABBOTT: Recommended something.

COSTELLO: You recommended something?

ABBOTT: Yes.

COSTELLO: For my office?

ABBOTT: Yes.

COSTELLO: Okay, what did you recommend for my office?

ABBOTT: Office.

COSTELLO: Yes, for my office.

ABBOTT: Office for Windows.

COSTELLO: I already have an office and it already has windows!  Let's say
I'm sitting at my computer, and I want to type a proposal.  What do I need?

ABBOTT: Word.

COSTELLO: If I'm writing a proposal, I'm going to need lots of words.
What program do I load?

ABBOTT: Word.

COSTELLO: What word?

ABBOTT : The Word in Office.

COSTELLO: The only word in office is office.

ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows..

COSTELLO: Which word in office for windows?

ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue W.

COSTELLO: I'm going to click your big W if you don't give me a straight
answer.
Let's forget about words for a minute.  What do I need if I want to
watch a movie over the Internet?

ABBOTT: RealOne.

COSTELLO: Maybe a real movie, maybe a cartoon.  What I watch is none of
your business.  But what do I need to watch it?

ABBOTT: RealOne.

COSTELLO: If it's a long movie I'll so want to watch reels two, three
and four.
Can I watch reel four?

ABBOTT: Of course.

COSTELLO: Great!  With what?

ABBOTT: RealOne.

COSTELLO: Okay, so I'm sitting at my computer and I want to watch a
movie.
What do I do?

ABBOTT: You click the blue 1.

COSTELLO: I click the blue one what?

ABBOTT: The blue 1.

COSTELLO: Is that different from the blue W?

ABBOTT: Of course it is.  The blue 1 is RealOne.  The blue W is Word.

COSTELLO: What word?

ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows.

COSTELLO: But there's three words in office for windows!

ABBOTT: No, just one.  But it's the most popular Word in the world.

COSTELLO: It is?

ABBOTT: Yes, although to be fair there aren't many other Words left.
It pretty much wiped out all the other Words.

COSTELLO: And that word is the real one?

ABBOTT: No.  RealOne has nothing to do with Word.  RealOne isn't even
part of Office.

COSTELLO: Never mind; I don't want to get started with that again.
But I also need something for bank accounts, loans, and so on.  What do
you have to help me track my money?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: That's right.  What do you have?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: I need money to track my money?

ABBOTT: No, not really.  It comes bundled with your computer.

COSTELLO: What comes bundled with my computer?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: Money !  comes bundled with my computer?

ABBOTT: Exactly.  No extra charge.

COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer at no extra charge?
How much money do I get?

ABBOTT: Just one copy.

COSTELLO: I get a copy of money.  Isn't that illegal?

ABBOTT: No.  We have a license from Microsoft to make copies of Money.

COSTELLO: Microsoft can license you to make money?

ABBOTT: Why not?  They own it.

COSTELLO: Well, it's great that I'm going to get free money, but I'll
still need to track it.  Do you have anything for money?

ABBOTT: Managing Your Money?  That program disappeared years ago.

COSTELLO: Well, what do you sell in its place?

ABBOTT: Money.

COSTELLO: You sell money?

ABBOTT: Of course.  But if you buy a computer from us, you get it for
free.

COSTELLO: That's all very wonderful, but I'll be running a business.
To take care for, you know, accounting?

ABBOTT: Simply Accounting.

COSTELLO: Probably, but it might get a little complicated.

ABBOTT: If you don't want Simply Accounting, you might try M.Y.O.B.

COSTELLO: M.Y.O.B.?  What does that stand for?

ABBOTT: Mind Your Own Business.

COSTELLO: I beg your pardon?

ABBOTT: No, that would be I.B.Y.P.  I said M.Y.O.B.

COSTELLO: Look, I just need to do some accounting for my home business.
You know, accounting?  You do it with money.

ABBOTT: Of course you can do accounting with Money.  But you may need
more.

COSTELLO: More money?

ABBOTT: More than Money.  Money can't do everything.

COSTELLO: I don't need a sermon!  Okay, let's forget about money for
the moment.  I'm worried that my computer might...what's the word?
Crash.  And if 

[lace-chat] :-) Today's riddle.

2003-09-01 Thread Jean Nathan
What five letter word, no matter how you pronounce it, is always pronounced
wrong?


Jean in Poole

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