Adele wrote:
Hmmm. Not to start an international copyright war, or anything, but - suppose
somebody did make that mat from the photo, without using the pricking that
Ruth Bean published. Would they be able to, say, make a hi-resolution scan of
the mat that they made, and then either sell it or
Sorry to resend this but I accidentally sent it to majordormo rather than the
lace list ... I was being cleaver in cropping names out and it went pear
shaped.
Kind Regards
Liz Baker
On 4 Jan 2014, at 08:02, The Lacebee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:
This question of working directly from a
It would be perfectly legal to draft the pattern from scratch working from the
photo of either the Ruth Bean version or the older pre Bean print runs. In the
process some differences would creep in anyway. Particularly if the lacemaker
freely acknowledged the original source material.
But if
I should have made clear I meant perfectly legal to use the photo in order to
be able to make a pricking for your own use. Not to sell. And assuming you own
or have a copy of the book all the time you are making the mat (see below).
I seem to remember in an earlier Channer mat discussion some
Miss Channer was born c1874 at Sherford in Devon, died on the 10th of March
1949 and was buried at Clapham, Bedford where she had lived for some years.
I have a very poor quality, much reduced, photocopy of the pattern which has
a couple of hand written notes one of which is 'W. Dean 1978' -
Is there any reason to believe that Miss Channer designed the mat? When I
started lace there were several patterns that were associated with my
teacher, but she did not design them. She made and sold the prickings.
In fact, when I started making lace in the 1970s the concept of copyright
In the copy of the book which I have, the caption on the picture says, MAT
FOR TRAY, Worked by Mrs. Dixon, Clapham, Beds. Design by C.C. Channer
My book indicates that Miss Channer first published her book in 1928. In
1972, M. Waller published a revised edition, and this was reprinted in 1984.
Hello All! Mary Corbet posted this link today.
http://www.theriaults.com/default/index.cfm?LinkServID=F1F6B52C-BDB9-3413-D6B0A7098C7BF120cid=211
Out of 356 items, just a few were lace-related. #183 is a tiny stand with
bobbins #308 is an engraved MOP tatting shuttle. There were also some
My 1928 first edition of 'Pratical Lacemaking - Bucks Point-Ground' says
exacty the same. There is no other mention that I can find in the text of the
mat.
I have in the past recognised some of the component parts as having
come from other, possibly older, designs. I guess that is only to be
I think that the Cecil Higgins Museum is missing a bet when they don't
sell a high def scan of this mat. Where is their initiative?
Is there any evidence that Ruth Bean actually obtained ownership of the
original design when they did the work of pricking and having someone make
the piece?
Well I was kind of excited to check out the Lace8 program. I don't design
bobbin lace, but I was sure I could use it for Tatting...And then the bomb
dropped.
I'm beyond disappointed that it only works on a windows machine. I'm not
sure I know anyone personaly that even uses a windows based
I was in contact with Channer family members some years ago - not now though.
Vera, a niece of Miss Channer, came to spend a day with me with her son and his
partner. As you can imagine I was thrilled. We took them to the church as
Desborough where Miss Channers father had been vicar in the
Interestingly, Crowood Press appears to have reprinted In the Cause of
English Lace in 2012 and they claim
Although published 90 years ago, this book has few modern rivals, and is
reprinted here for the first time within a more extensive work by Anne
Buck.
I've had others look at the programme with a view to using it for tatting, but
they've quickly decided not!
The programmer feels that the small potential market doesn't make it worthwhile
for him to offer two versions and in other countries, Windows based computers
are still more usual.
Dear Arachnians
I've just arrived in Switzerland from Cape Town and I'm struggling to find
a decent haberdashery in Basel. It seems that I grossly overestimated my
online research skills!
Does anyone know where I can source lacemaking threads in or near Basel?
I'm specifically looking for silk
Dear Pierre,
I don not have the answer to your question, but I have a question for you.
Are you on your way to New York to be at the exhibit of your piece at the
Queer Threads, Crafting Identity and Community exhibit at the Leslie Lohman
Museum, Jan. 17- March 16?
Dear Jeri and Susan
Thanks for the kind comments; I can assure you I did
think very carefully before contradicting Mrs Carter!! I do, however, wear
evening dress, with a dress shirt, at least a couple of times a year at
non-lace events, and like to wear my lace then, if possible, and a full
Thank you Leonard! Light bulb ON--starting at the bottom, the lace folds back
upon itself at the end of the row steps up slightly to make the next row of
appliqued lace. Each new row of lace covers the sewing details of the previous
row. This didn't make sense until you specified that the
Good morning,
Sad news today as we say goodbye to our lacemaker friend Karen Blum
in Adelaide, South Australia, who passed away peacefully on Friday
after a long illness. She will be terribly missed by her friends for
her patience and skill in passing on her lace knowledge to us all,
great Bucks point challenging designs. What is out there? Do you know of a
design that would be just as challenging as Miss Channer's Mat and where is
the pattern. Be descriptive as to its appearance...maybe were we can see it
done up online, who is the designer...have you made any other
On that same note, how about some book reviews on Bucks or other point
ground books? I am looking for more intermediate to advanced instruction, I
know the basics, and can follow charts if they have a thread path diagram
with it, but is there anything out there that will teach you how to read
just
Sherry wrote:
Do you know of a
design that would be just as challenging as Miss Channer's Mat and where is
the pattern. Be descriptive as to its appearance...maybe were we can see it
done up online, who is the designer..
There is a book called Fine Buckinghamshire Point Lace Patterns
Jeri,
In reading all the Channer correspondence, I wondered why no one remembered
we were able to see David's mat while it was in
progress. David? Do you know where the pictures at various
stages of making are
- at the present time?
Well they're certainly still here on my computer, but
What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell.
Diana
Sent from my iPad
On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:55, Marianne Gallant m...@shaw.ca wrote:
On that same note, how about some book reviews on Bucks or other point
ground books? I am looking for more intermediate to
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