Re: [lace] Miss Channer mat
Happy New Year Diana I've been following with interest the posts about Miss Channer's mat and wonder if it might be a good idea to contact Tricia Bury, as she might possibly know a little more of the history relating to the pricking(s)? Fond Regards Cathy Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - Original Message - From: Diana Smith Subject: [lace] Miss Channer's mat I have just notice that the acknowledgement to Pat Bury in the pattern pack is for 'The adapted pricking, sample and note' - so the large mat picture is the original? Sorry am I playing catch up here ;-) Diana - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
I've just noticed that on the bottom of my pricking of Miss Channer's mat is printed Pricking adapted by Patricia Bury from an earlier copy in her collection There certainly are equally/more challenging Buck Point patterns. Just one is in Fine Buckinghamshire Point Lace Patterns Belonging to the Misses Sivewright and Pope, which has been mentioned. In it there's a pricking for part of a Bishop's cope. It's mentioned in Thomas Wright's Romance of the Lace Pillow with a photo of part of it on page 64. There's a photo of the finished item on: http:://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm The person who jokingly challenged Malcom Down to make it was me after he'd completed Miss Channer's Mat, and he would gleefully show me how far he'd got at each meeting of PBLC. If you have the Sivewright and Pope book, you'll see just how large it is - half the pricking spreads across two A3 pages and those two have to be mirrored for the other half. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Channer Mat
Something for us all to think about when making a will I guess. My own family know nothing about lace and would probably just throw out any design sketches/samples that I had worked, so maybe I should put them all in a folder with a note to say that I would be happy for them to be made available for future generations. It is far easier of course to copy designs for needlelace than prickings/patterns for bobbin lace, so not so much of an issue but certainly a serious consideration for some of our well known bobbin lace designers/workers. Catherine Barley UK Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - Original Message - From: dmt11h...@aol.com Subject: [lace] Channer Mat If the copyright to the design resided in Miss Channer, I suppose it would have passed to her heirs when she died. Does anyone know who her heirs are, and whether they have any interest in suppressing the use of her designs. Perhaps, if asked, they would feel that she would have wanted to share the work. (They might even want to give it to Creative Commons.) In the event of a court case regarding who owns the rights to a design, I believe it is customary to present work that shows the development of the design through various stages, rather than to simply accept a verbal claim to the design. As such, I doubt that anyone has a portfolio of Miss Channers's design development that they could use to support a claim that she developed the design. In fact, if you had such a portfolio it might actually illuminate a different scenario, that she may have adapted it from a traditional design or someone else's design, possibly even a piece of lace she purchased. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....
I also have one of Alex Stillwells books which goes through stages of explanation and pattern building, reading, understanding. It is a lovely book and if I had more time to spend on Bucks I would have achieved several masterpieces by now:-) I have achieved some pretty minor pieces though. Sue T Dorset UK -Original Message- What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell. Diana Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:55, Marianne Gallant m...@shaw.ca wrote: On that same note, how about some book reviews on Bucks or other point ground books? I am looking for more intermediate to advanced instruction, I know the basics, and can follow charts if they have a thread path diagram with it, but is there anything out there that will teach you how to read just a pricking? I have the Grammar of Point ground, and am reading through it, and will in the next week or so probably start on doing some of the practise pieces, but am wondering what else is out there. Marianne - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....
Oh yes, very nice book. Just got it for Christmas. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: 05 January 2014 07:44 To: Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell. Diana - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....
I can second (third?) the praise for Alex Stillwell's books on Bucks, but I want to be sure that it is clear, in answer to the original query, that there are two books, the first on Geometric Bucks Point and a second on Floral Bucks. The second builds on the first, so you need to get the first book at least. The best place to get them is http://alexstillwell.wordpress.com/books/ -- she accepts PayPal so it is easy to place an order from outside the UK. (Usual disclaimer: no connection--just a satisfied customer.) My comment on those two books is that they are among the most detailed, thorough, and clear expositions of how to make a type of lace of any I have ever seen, not just among Bucks books but of any type of lace (they are definitely the best on Bucks that I know of). I've been doing a lot of overtime at work, but as soon as things calm down some, I plan to continue from the beginning of the Geometric Bucks book (even though I have done some Floral Bucks already) and work my way through both of them--New Year's resolution! I can't say enough good things about these books. (I guess you can tell I like them, huh? :-) Happy lacemaking to all in the New Year! Nancy Connecticut, USA What about the superb newly published book by our very own Alex Stillwell. Diana - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace8 bummer
Just an idea, but I'll bet that MS Visio would be good for tatting diagrams. It has a good interface for handling arcs and curves once you get the knack of it, and you can make your own library (stencils) of motifs. Nancy Connecticut, USA From: Ruth Budge thelacema...@optusnet.com.au To: Robin D human.m...@gmail.com Cc: lace@arachne.com lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace8 bummer I've had others look at the programme with a view to using it for tatting, but they've quickly decided not! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....
I agree the two books on Bucks Point lace by Alex Stillwell are the best books to learn form. They are so well organised that it is possible to work the patterns without a teacher - although a teacher does help. You do need the Geometric Book as well as the Floral Book as the Floral book does refer to the first book. I have enjoyed lots of the pattern from the first book and look forward to txrying the patterns in the Floral Book this year. Corinne In Brighton UK Where it is bright, dry but cold today. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] continueing on with Miss Channer discussion...how about other....
Sorry, Yahoo added some extra characters to that link to Alex Stillwell's books. this should work: http://alexstillwell.wordpress.com/books/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bucks Point laces
And I would agree with you, Alex's books, both the Geometrical and Floral Bucks Point books are ideal for anyone wanting to learn and work Bucks point. There are not only clear pictures of the lace projects which are in both the books, there are also clear diagrams and written instructions as well as accurate prickings, suggestions on drawing up patterns on different grids, suggestions on weights of bobbins threads to use and pins ideal for the lace and encouragement to have a go at designing for yourself. I have worked patterns from both the books and even though I have worked Bucks point for years I have learnt things from both books. Maureen E Yorks UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bucks Point laces
It will be a while before I can afford the new book, unfortunately, but in the meantime if anyone decides to have a go at the overlapping gimp rings in Chapter 14 of the first book, and hasn't got either the Spring 2010 Canadian Lacemaker Gazette or Lace No. 141 (January 2011) to refer to, please contact me for my diagrams as to how to do them, which differ from the two methods that Alex gives in the book. I think my way gives a better solution than the way Alex thought I did them, anyway! In message 2361fb5d-8309-49a9-b6c3-fa9616853...@roger.karoo.co.uk, Maureen maur...@roger.karoo.co.uk writes There are not only clear pictures of the lace projects which are in both the books, there are also clear diagrams and written instructions -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Pope and Sivewright Bishop's Cope
Hi All, I'm glad others remembered to mention other beautiful Bucks patterns. I remember that from previous discussions. The URL someone sent to the Poole Bobbin Lace site didn't work for me, this one might, I just took it from the site. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm The Bishop's Cope is quite gorgeous!! I got there by googling pope sivewright bishops cope. My brain had changed the second name to Silverwright, needless to say that did not work G. I'd forgotten it was the PBLC site, a very familiar name from arachne! Jane in Vermont, USA where it has been c-o-l-d, sup-zero at night...brrr jvik...@sover.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Alex Stillwell
Since Alex is on the list can she please email me privately. I am interested in her books. Thank you muchly...keep the discussion going I am enjoying the read. Sherry New York, USA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] downloading PDF files into a CD?
Can anyone on the list give me some advice please? I've just finished scanning all the pages from my book Needlelace Designs and Techniques, which are in numerical order on my computer. However, having loaded them all onto a disc, some appear to have jumped out of sequence! It would seem that they have gone onto the disc in the date order that I scanned and worked on them and of course, some of them I worked on a second time, trying to improve on them. Is there anyway that I can put those I have downloaded onto the CD into the correct numerical order - drag and drop doesn't seem to work! If anyone can offer advice on how I might do this, I would be extremely grateful if you would email me privately. Many thanks Catherine Barley Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] FW: Channer's Mat
Subject: RE: Channer Mat Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 08:59:41 -0700 Lace Fairy has two mats for view. One is Miss Channer's original and the other done by Janice Savage. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Gallery/Channersmat.htm Rosemary - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] FW: Channer's Mat
Hi Rosemary et all. Not sure which I prefer. The lower photo looks more dense than the top one. I do have the later pattern and pricking, and one lady in our lace group worked it about 2 years ago in 6 months or so! Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Lace Fairy has two mats for view. One is Miss Channer's original and the other done by Janice Savage. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Gallery/Channersmat.htm Rosemary - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] FW: Channer's Mat
Thank you for sharing this link, Rosemary, and hello everyone. Certainly both mats are incredible, beautifully made works. As a design though, I notice the florals aren't as pleasingly placed in the composition as they could have been, which I find detracting. I keep trying to 'place' them. Agree with Devon in a previous message that there are nicer, equally ambitious prickings that are available. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Rosemary Horr rja...@msn.com wrote: Lace Fairy has two mats for view. One is Miss Channer's original and the other done by Janice Savage. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Gallery/Channersmat.htm -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Fw: [lace] Pope and Sivewright Bishop's Cope
There is also a very pretty picture of Miss Channers Mat on the Poole Bobbin lace Circle site as well here is the link for that. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/mat.htm Sue T Dorset UK Hi All, I'm glad others remembered to mention other beautiful Bucks patterns. I remember that from previous discussions. The URL someone sent to the Poole Bobbin Lace site didn't work for me, this one might, I just took it from the site. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm The Bishop's Cope is quite gorgeous!! I got there by googling pope sivewright bishops cope.I'd forgotten it was the PBLC site, a very familiar name from arachne! Jane in Vermont, USA where it has been c-o-l-d, sup-zero at night...brrr jvik...@sover.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will have started for that pricking, with her. She may have sold it to Ruth Bean, or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting point Kind Regards Liz Baker On 5 Jan 2014, at 08:25, Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I've just noticed that on the bottom of my pricking of Miss Channer's mat is printed Pricking adapted by Patricia Bury from an earlier copy in her collection - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Pat Bury email address?
Liz writes: I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will have started for that pricking, with her. She may have sold it to Ruth Bean, or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting point Kind Regards Liz Baker Does anyone have contact information for Patricia Bury? She seems to be actively teaching at Missenden Abby, Knuston Hall, Dillington and Alston Hall, in what appear to be delightful events- how I wish I lived in England- but I don't see an email address there. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
Liz wrote: I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will have started for that pricking, with her. She may have sold it to Ruth Bean, or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting point Or Ruth Bean might have commissioned and paid Patricia Bury to produce the pricking for her and that is why Ruth Bean holds the copyright on it. I doubt that Patricia Bury would be willing to make a another different adaption from the one she has in her collection. It must have taken a long time to draft and test the one she did. The one in her collection presumably is the copyright of someone else, possibly Catherine Channer - how complicated these things can be. The one I have has obviously been professional, probably mechanically, pricked. It probably cost a lot to have the machinery set up to do that, and that could be part of the reason why Ruth Bean was unwilling to produce more. But I suspect that most people would be willing to prick it themselves if they could just get their hands on a legal print of the pricking. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Pat Bury email address?
Patricia Bury doesn't have email, unless things have changed since last summer. Eve Poole, Dorset, UK On 05/01/2014 19:10, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have contact information for Patricia Bury? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] FW: Channer's Mat
Just for the record, neither of the 2 pictures of Miss Channer's Mats is mine, even though I did send a picture of it. The top one is from the Poole Bobbin Lace circle and the lower one is made by Diana Smith. Janis Savage On 2014/01/05 06:19 PM, Rosemary Horr wrote: Lace Fairy has two mats for view. One is Miss Channer's original and the other done by Janice Savage. http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Gallery/Channersmat.htm Janis Savage t/a The Lace Place thelacepl...@hotmail.co.za www.thelaceplace.co.za Tel: 082 807 7858 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace8 bummer
Hi Robin, I use Lace8 on my MacBook Pro. I have something called VisualBox which brings up the Windows desktop and I can access Lace8 through it. Some things are a little temperamental at times but with help, I have managed to use it. I think I use the fn key and delete at the same time to delete an element. Previously I was using Lace RXP through the same VisualBox. Don't ask me how to install it all, my SIL did it for me a number of years ago. Exporting is a pain as I can never remember where to save it to and be able to access it in Mac. It takes me several attempts but I think old age has more to do with it than anything. :-) Janice Well I was kind of excited to check out the Lace8 program. I don't design bobbin lace, but I was sure I could use it for Tatting...And then the bomb dropped. I'm beyond disappointed that it only works on a windows machine. I'm not sure I know anyone personaly that even uses a windows based computer anymore. I mean I know people do, just not in my personal world of artists and graphic designers. (I have the same frustration with genealogy programs) With Mac being the largest computer company in the world I would think it would be in the best interest of the software people to make sure there was a Mac compatible version. *SIGH* Guess I'll stick with Illustrator. Robin Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Miss Channer's Mat vs. All the Others
It is probably quite true that there are other, equally difficult, perhaps more beautiful large pieces of point ground lace out there, but when you say, Miss Channer's Mat, many, many people in the bobbin lace world know what you're talking about. Making Miss Channer's Mat is something of a cachet, certainly a major achievement that is readily recognized without saying anything more about numbers of bobbins, size, time to make, or any other elaboration. It certainly is in my bucket list. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where I got a very little bit of cross country skiing in before the slick icy rain began today. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Torn veil - help needed
A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/ This looks like it's outside my needlework skills. Making new bobbin lace is so much easier than repairing tears!! They put a coin on it to give an idea of scale of the hole. I think it is a U.S. dime and so is about 3/4 inch or 2cm in diameter Sue (in cold and getting colder Northfield, Illinois, where it is currently 10 F / -12C and dropping) suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed
Hi, my thought is to do a sprig lace in Honiton lace or similar and appliqué over the tear. Joan in stormy Ontario On Sunday, January 5, 2014, Sue Babbs wrote: A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/ This looks like it's outside my needlework skills. Making new bobbin lace is so much easier than repairing tears!! They put a coin on it to give an idea of scale of the hole. I think it is a U.S. dime and so is about 3/4 inch or 2cm in diameter Sue (in cold and getting colder Northfield, Illinois, where it is currently 10 F / -12C and dropping) suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed
The net isn't torn, it looks as if its been chewed.  How on earth did it happen.  Or was it speared by a stiletto heel. I agree with Joan that appliquéd sprigs (plural) are one way to go.  As the damage is in from the edge a way they'd need to use more than one, balanced either side of the centre back motif, or it would be obviously a repair.  They don't need to be fancy, just in keeping with the rest of the design, but obviously one in each group must be large enough to conceal all of the hole, the others could be smaller.  It may be possible to use motifs from a damaged old piece of Duchesse or Honiton if there's no lacemaker with the time and skills available but you'd need to match the scale and colour. Another option would be to patch in a piece of net and this would be the easiest and quickest, and properly done almost invisible, BUT would depend on you finding a piece of old net that is a good match in mesh shape and size and colour.  It is relatively easy to find areas of net in otherwise unimportant pieces of machine lace, once you attune your eyes to the search; having said that this looks as if it might be a diamond mesh net (although the detail isn't quite good enough to see clearly) and that's not as easy to find as hexagonal mesh, but still possible. See if you can find a copy of the Anybody Can  Mend Lace and Linens book, by Arachne Elizabeth Kurella. I don't know if it's still in print or not (? Elizabeth) but if you belong to IOLI they likely have a copy in their library.  If not, and if you are a Lace Guild member, we have a copy and are allowed to copy small parts of a book for your use (we can't loan the books overseas).  But if you can find your own copy I can't recommend it highly enough. I think (and I may be dreaming) that in the above book she also shows you how to do a darned repair, but for this you'll need a very fine thread in the right colour, or it would stick out like a sore thumb. I wish them luck as it's a lovely heirloom piece. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Sent from Samsung tablet - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed
Does anyone know of anyone who does lace repairs? It's not my field of expertise, and this big a tear looks daunting. They have now confirmed that it is a quarter (not the dime that I was told it would be) and thus even bigger than I thought Sue On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote: A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Torn veil - help needed
I seem to remember posts in the past saying that there are professionals in ?Bruges who can repair lace like this - as with you, I don't think I'd fancy trying. If that isn't an option, it is difficult to tell exactly where on the veil the tear is - could a bit of cotton net be stitched behind the tear to support it and stop it getting any worse, and the veil worn so as to hide it as much as possible? Or maybe work a bee motif (traditional, for luck, but wouldn't be too out of place with all the flowers) to disguise it? Lets really hope they don't do what my mother in law did - I borrowed her Nottingham, silk embroidered, veil for my wedding, which was showing some signs of age but I don't remember any holes as such. After I returned it to her, (as you do with items you borrow!) she thought I didn't want to keep it so gave it to a friend's daughter to play with - result so many holes it didn't survive. In message 5AF05F3279B54DDEA580BCADEA3008F0@2012LaptopHP, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com writes A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/ This looks like it's outside my needlework skills. Making new bobbin lace is so much easier than repairing tears!! They put a coin on it to give an idea of scale of the hole. I think it is a U.S. dime and so is about 3/4 inch or 2cm in diameter Sue (in cold and getting colder Northfield, Illinois, where it is currently 10 F / -12C and dropping) suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ --- Text inserted by Panda IS 2011: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_56393SPAM=truepath=C:\Documents%20a nd%20Settings\Jane\Local%20Settings\Application%20Data\Panda%20Security\ da%20Internet%20Security%202011\AntiSpam --- -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed
Anybody Can Mend is most certainly still in print — thanks for asking! It is available both on my website, www.LaceMerchant.com, and on my ebay sales site, moniker “lacemerchant All my books should remain in print forever, thanks to digital printing! Elizabeth On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:53 PM, laceandbits laceandb...@aol.com wrote: The net isn't torn, it looks as if its been chewed. How on earth did it happen. Or was it speared by a stiletto heel. I agree with Joan that appliquéd sprigs (plural) are one way to go. As the damage is in from the edge a way they'd need to use more than one, balanced either side of the centre back motif, or it would be obviously a repair. They don't need to be fancy, just in keeping with the rest of the design, but obviously one in each group must be large enough to conceal all of the hole, the others could be smaller. It may be possible to use motifs from a damaged old piece of Duchesse or Honiton if there's no lacemaker with the time and skills available but you'd need to match the scale and colour. Another option would be to patch in a piece of net and this would be the easiest and quickest, and properly done almost invisible, BUT would depend on you finding a piece of old net that is a good match in mesh shape and size and colour. It is relatively easy to find areas of net in otherwise unimportant pieces of machine lace, once you attune your eyes to the search; having said that this looks as if it might be a diamond mesh net (although the detail isn't quite good enough to see clearly) and that's not as easy to find as hexagonal mesh, but still possible. See if you can find a copy of the Anybody Can Mend Lace and Linens book, by Arachne Elizabeth Kurella. I don't know if it's still in print or not (? Elizabeth) but if you belong to IOLI they likely have a copy in their library. If not, and if you are a Lace Guild member, we have a copy and are allowed to copy small parts of a book for your use (we can't loan the books overseas). But if you can find your own copy I can't recommend it highly enough. I think (and I may be dreaming) that in the above book she also shows you how to do a darned repair, but for this you'll need a very fine thread in the right colour, or it would stick out like a sore thumb. I wish them luck as it's a lovely heirloom piece. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Sent from Samsung tablet - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Torn veil - help needed
Hi Sue and fellow Arachnids, What a shame the veil is damaged and shame on the bride who put it away without admitting and dealing with it. However, that is water under the bridge. Have you thought of asking the Lace Guild, the London School of Needlework? Or maybe one of the museums which have lace in their collections? They have access to textile restores but it will be an expensive process. Hope it can be satisfactorily repaired as it is such a beautiful veil. Happy lace making, Joepie -Original Message- From: Sue Babbs Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:38 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Torn veil - help needed A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by 50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I was sent photos today to see what I thought could be done with it, and don't really know what to suggest. I have uploaded these photos to Flickr, and am hoping that someone can give me advice on what to tell them. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/72157639451992576/ This looks like it's outside my needlework skills. Making new bobbin lace is so much easier than repairing tears!! They put a coin on it to give an idea of scale of the hole. I think it is a U.S. dime and so is about 3/4 inch or 2cm in diameter Sue (in cold and getting colder Northfield, Illinois, where it is currently 10 F / -12C and dropping) suebabbs...@gmail.com - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Torn veil
From: Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com Subject: [lace] Torn veil - help needed A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, , and a jagged edge tear discovered in it. I describe how to repair net in my âSalex Dictionary of Laceâ, p175. Most of the lace guild have had a complimentary copy so you should be able to borrow it if you do not wish to purchase it. Hope you get it successfully mended Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
