Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-08 Thread Weronika Patena
Exactly. I don't think any lacemakers actually mind the name enough to not join the organization, but if we're hoping for some public support, or we want to show the wider public that lace is something interesting and worth doing, the name matters a lot, and the current one doesn't seem very

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Any name change should be conscious of not conflicting with other existing organisations, particularly OIDFA which is truly international. Any one who has heard about IOLI knows that it is the American Lace Guild so what is wrong with ALGI? Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 6 Apr 2005, at 19:41, [EMAIL

[lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Lynn Carpenter
Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . .what is wrong with ALGI? My immediate gut reaction was Sounds like the green stuff that is growing on the surface of my pond this spring. (algae) Next reaction was Sounds like short for Algernon. (Algie) My third layer of reaction to this, once I

RE: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Laurie Hughes
: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:13 PM *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com *Subject: Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers * * *Since the name was arrived at in the 1950's I can think of *several new laces *that have been invented since then. Withof, Swanleigh (Pat *Read), Lutac, *Rosa Libre

RE: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Laurie Hughes
Jean, I read this aloud to my son and he said Nothing's wrong with ALGI if you like green stuff that grows in murky ponds. *Any name change should be conscious of not conflicting with other *existing organisations, particularly OIDFA which is truly *international. Any one who has heard about

[lace] Re: International (?) Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 7, 2005, at 19:56, Laurie Hughes wrote: Jean, I read this aloud to my son and he said Nothing's wrong with ALGI if you like green stuff that grows in murky ponds. Yeah, that was my first response, too :) It's worse than old - getting old I may be, but, *slimy* I'd also like to

[lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 7, 2005, at 21:32, Aurelia Loveman wrote: the issue is: shall we change the name? I'm definitely for changing the name; just don't have any ideas what to change it to... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw,

Re: [lace] Re: International (?) Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/7/2005 8:32:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, except they're still like raisins in the - mostly US-American - cake :) Token foreigners, maybe? While I am not certain that a geographical entity needs to be part of the organizational name,

[lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 7, 2005, at 22:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christina) wrote: I wish to echo Susie Johnson's sentiments (Personally I would like to see you all use your time to make lace and give up the name change ideas.). Well, I *do* make lace - I even contribute an occasional pattern to the IOLi Bulletin

[lace] Re: International (?) Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 8, 2005, at 0:41, Fran Higham wrote: I would be very much surprised if the choice of The Lace Guild turned out to be something other than a reflection of the totally British tradition of the establishment of guilds Sorry, but guilds are *not* the totally British tradition... True, US

Re: [lace] Re: International (?) Old Lacers

2005-04-07 Thread Fran Higham
Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wote On Apr 8, 2005, at 0:41, Fran Higham wrote: I would be very much surprised if the choice of The Lace Guild turned out to be something other than a reflection of the totally British tradition of the establishment of guilds Sorry, but guilds are

[lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Well, I do agree completely with Tamara, both as to lacers vs. lacemakers; and also that maybe it's time to think again about changing the name (IOLI vs ??). Perhaps if we took a vote now, opinions on the subject might fall differently than how they did 25 years ago. -- Aurelia That might

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Weronika Patena
Needless to say, I agree too. It's really quite amazing how frequently I end up agreeing with Tamara g Weronika On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:05:57PM -0400, Aurelia Loveman wrote: Well, I do agree completely with Tamara, both as to lacers vs. lacemakers; and also that maybe it's time to think

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Dmt11home
Since the name was arrived at in the 1950's I can think of several new laces that have been invented since then. Withof, Swanleigh (Pat Read), Lutac, Rosa Libre and Mossoloid (Susan Lambiris). Perhaps we should change the name to the International New Lacers. Devon - To unsubscribe send

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Barb ETx
What is wrong with just . International Lacers Incorporated Just my wooden nickles worth BarbE - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Dmt11home
BarbE wrote: What is wrong with just . International Lacers Incorporated At one point in the long tortuous discussion of this issue, someone made the thrifty suggestion that if the name were changed to International Organization of Lacers, Inc., we wouldn't have to throw away the IOLI

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 4/6/05 2:44:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At one point in the long tortuous discussion of this issue, someone made the thrifty suggestion that if the name were changed to International Organization of Lacers, Inc., we wouldn't have to throw

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/5/2005 9:41:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like Jacquie, I too read it as old lacemakers, especially with so many people saying lacers (personally, not my favourite term g) instead of lacemakers. The mission statement of the International

RE: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Clay Blackwell
Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I do agree completely with Tamara, both as to lacers vs. lacemakers; and also that maybe it's time to think again about changing the name (IOLI vs ??). Perhaps if we took a vote now, opinions on the subject

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Let's be grandiose, while we're at it! How about Lacemakers of the World? (i.e., neither old nor new but lacemakers with all sorts of lace tastes) -- Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Aurelia Loveman
No, Jeri. Though you and I rarely disagree, this time we do! I don't want a name that suits the stationery. If anything, I want stationery to suit the name. And the name should have pizzazz, gallop, life. International Organization of Lacers is awful. And while we're getting rid of old

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Right on, Aurelia! Happy Lacemaking, Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA -Original Message- From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] let's get rid of lacers too. We aren't lacers. We're lacemakers! Come on, Jeri, wake up the old Madison Avenue and find us a name! -- Aurelia - To

RE: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Alice Howell
At 05:24 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote: I am not a member of the executive committee of IOLI, but I'm sure that this process would take at least one or two years! That should not discourage us from pursuing this, but just forewarn us of the length of time it would take. The name of an organization is

Re: [lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-06 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I thought there was a vote just 3-4 years ago. Lorri Well, I do agree completely with Tamara, both as to lacers vs. lacemakers; and also that maybe it's time to think again about changing the name (IOLI vs ??). Perhaps if we took a vote now, opinions on the subject might fall differently

[lace] Re: International Old Lacers

2005-04-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 5, 2005, at 20:52, Aurelia Loveman wrote: Dears... it's not the lacers that are old, it's the lace. You know: old lace. And Jane Viking-Swanson ditto: Hi Jacquie and All, It's Old Lace not old lacemakers G. That might have been the *intention*, but you-know-what is paved with good