Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-02-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Good news. When can I expect the sources for that ? fpdoc changes around mid Feb. I'll create a compiled INF of FPC Lang Ref and new Docview binaries too, and make those available on SourceForge downloads. I meant to complete the new fpdoc IPF writer in my holidays

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-02-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 1 February 2010 12:07, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: and new Docview binaries too, and make those available on SourceForge downloads. Thinking about it, maybe I should stop using SourceForge and move to someone like BerliOS which is based outside America - or start hosting my own projects on my

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-31 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Lee Jenkins wrote: Personally, I've come to like Adobe's LiveDocs format which seems to be a hybrid of Wiki and TOC oriented format and its indexed by google making searches easy and fast. Anyone else care for this kind of format? No. :-) I would much prefer a off-line documentation

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Vincent Snijders
Hans-Peter Diettrich schreef: IMO a good add-on to the Lazarus is invisible? thread. Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: [snip] DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many (most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the eyes of a person not

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30 January 2010 02:35, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it. Felipe, I think this is a catch-22 situation. If you don't know

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: On 30 January 2010 03:26, Andrew Brunner andrew.t.brun...@gmail.com wrote: IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus. I think a birds-eye view of stuff should be easily accessible and intuitive. Correct, but the FIRST problem is the

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Juha Manninen schrieb: 1. Mention about FPC and a link for downloading and installing it. Now there is a link to Free Pascal but its relation to Lazarus is not obvious to a beginner. Lazarus comes with FPC? -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30 January 2010 12:54, Vincent Snijders vsnijd...@vodafonevast.nl wrote: The main page contains links to Downloads and Mailing list information on prominent places. AFAIK the Lazarus team doesn't have web designer, and that shows. A product website firstly gives a bit of summary

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30 January 2010 13:55, Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org wrote: Lazarus comes with FPC? Don't confuse Windows only features, with other platforms. What about Mac, FreeBSD, Linux users? FPC doesn't come with those. -- Regards, - Graeme -

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 30 January 2010 12:54, Vincent Snijders vsnijd...@vodafonevast.nl wrote: The main page contains links to Downloads and Mailing list information on prominent places. AFAIK the Lazarus team doesn't have web designer, and that shows. A product website firstly gives a

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 04:11:59PM +0100, J?rgen Hestermann wrote: Developing software isn't about just clicking somewhere. It's also about knowing where to find your info. Well, although I see why it is how it is I have to fully agree with Graeme regarding the very confusing web pages

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Bee Jay
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I am simple pointing out the obvious faults of the current first port of call website new users get when they want to know about the Lazarus project. Why make it so difficult for new users? @all: Enough talking and let's do the real work. FPC/Lazarus is

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Lee Jenkins
Andrew Brunner wrote: IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus. I think a birds-eye view of stuff should be easily accessible and intuitive. Unfortunately, the complicated nature of this universal development tool requires much content management technology to

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Bart
On 1/30/10, Marc Weustink m...@dommelstein.net wrote: * What is Lazarus? About lazarus ? * Where can I documentation (IDE LCL)? Wiki ? * Where can I get installation/setup instructions? * Where can I download it from? Download ? All those links are in the (tiny) menu on the

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Lee Jenkins
Andreas Schneider wrote: Am Freitag 29 Januar 2010 23:36:02 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: IMO a good add-on to the Lazarus is invisible? thread. I think a great problem for many of those people in this thread comes from the fact that (as they state) try it from time to time. That means,

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Nice screenshot Marc. :-) 2010/1/30 Marc Weustink m...@dommelstein.net:  * What is Lazarus? About lazarus ? I think this needs higher visibility than a small link. Some of that content should really be on the front page.  * Where can I documentation (IDE LCL)? Wiki ? Well, that's not

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-30 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marco van de Voort schrieb: I also had a hard time starting with Lazarus/Free Pascal and it's still not easy to find information. Do realize though that it is the constant change in the project that causes this mostly. You'd need to revise the whole detailed website and all docs every 3

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-29 Thread Gustavo Enrique Jimenez
Hi all: Just google linux pascal compiler. Period. Gustavo 2010/1/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com: IMO a good add-on to the Lazarus is invisible? thread. Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: [snip] DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many (most?) OS

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-29 Thread Doug Chamberlin
On 1/29/2010 6:05 PM, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote: Just google linux pascal compiler. Period. And that accomplishes what, exactly? Does not seem to relate to the current discussion at all. -- Doug C. - A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-29 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it. thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

2010-01-29 Thread Bee Jay
IMO a good add-on to the Lazarus is invisible? thread. While I agree with the points that Lazarus need better documentations, I think those people in that forum are spoil programmers. I also don't understand why they are so defensive against Lazarus. I remember the first time I found