[Lazarus] input password htpasswd

2009-12-02 Thread faread_w
everybody,please help me.i have case for use lazarus.i use linux fedora. i use htpasswd for cretead user and password. if i use open termina concole i just type /usr/bin/htpasswd -c tipe-file User Add password: * Retype Password:* so if i use program lazarus,how to enter/input password h

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > For fun, I created a small program that creates program code for 2.3 > million lines distributed over 460 units (approx 6000 lines per This made be laugh. Don't you think software developers have a weird idea of what is considered 'fun'? :-) Try and explain that t

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Phil Hess wrote: > > By the way, Delphi 2010 compiles that 2.3 million lines of code in 70 > seconds, including linking and creating a map file. I know Delphi is fast, but that is very fast. We have already had a discussion why Delphi could be so fast, so we will not go into that again. Just the

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread waldo kitty
Paul Ishenin wrote: This is my view of road to 1.0 and it can differ from ideas of other developers. sounds like that needs to be published somewhere so that other Lazarus developers can read it and their ideas can be discussed and added to the point of saying, "that's it, let's do it" and th

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread waldo kitty
Tom Lisjac wrote: There is no point to releasing a 1.0 for publicity reasons if the publicity is going to end up being bad due to instability and code breakage. That would only make Lazarus/FPC a well publicized failure. Given that choice, I'd rather see the project continue to plod along in the

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Phil Hess wrote: - "Graeme Geldenhuys" wrote: The subtext is that with Delphi you can pull off the hat trick of a 2.3 million line app that sells for big bucks and where the client does not tolerate bugs or instabilities or excuses. Can anyone make that claim for La

[Lazarus] Pascal and Hibernate

2009-12-02 Thread Osvaldo Filho
http://lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=5ca1e078c15770ad5ae317f9996540cf&topic=8079.0 -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Phil Hess
- "Graeme Geldenhuys" wrote: > > The subtext is that with Delphi you can pull off the hat trick of a > > 2.3 million line app that sells for big bucks and where the client > > does not tolerate bugs or instabilities or excuses. Can anyone make > > that claim for Lazarus? > > Well, our appli

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Juha Manninen
On keskiviikko, 2. joulukuuta 2009 20:43:01 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > I still use [Suse] 10.3, due to certain issues with the 11 version on my machines. Hi, did you try the latest OpenSuse 11.2? The earlier 11.x versions had issues at least with KDE4. For me this latest Suse looks very good.

Re: [Lazarus] finding libmysqlclient

2009-12-02 Thread Henry Vermaak
2009/12/3 Chris Jennings : > Hi All > I am new to Lazarus and having a few problems with whatelse seems to be an > excellent development environment. I have past experience with Delphi and am > hoping to be able to use Lazarus for a major upcomming open source project. > > Today I have everything (

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Steve Harp schrieb: I’ve got some old Delphi apps that I need to compile for Linux. I’m using Lazarus v0.9.28.2 beta on openSUSE 11.2 64-bit. I still use 10.3, due to certain issues with the 11 version on my machines. The IDE loads fine and the About box displays normally. However, when I

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Dipl. Phys. Jörg Schläger schrieb: open suse includes lazarus and fpc on DVD here the Version of open suse 11.1 Version: 0.9.26-0 Erstellt am: Do 09 Okt 2008 23:08:11 CEST A newer version were nice. I vaguely remember some issues with 0.9.26 on openSUSE, that made me immediatly use the 0.

Re: [Lazarus] IDE Bug or Misconfiguration?

2009-12-02 Thread Guionardo Furlan
Problema resolvido! Após reinstalar várias versões do lazarus (oficial, beta, x86, x64) e do fpc, o erro das units não encontradas persistia. Então, criei uma máquina virtual no virtualbox, rodando Windows XP SP3. Instalei o lazarus e os packages e tudo funcionou perfeitamente. Então, descobri que

[Lazarus] finding libmysqlclient

2009-12-02 Thread Chris Jennings
Hi All I am new to Lazarus and having a few problems with whatelse seems to be an excellent development environment. I have past experience with Delphi and am hoping to be able to use Lazarus for a major upcomming open source project. Today I have everything (fpc-2.2.5 / lazarus-0.9.28.2 /

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Jonathan
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:08 +0100 Marco van de Voort wrote: > The point is that the audience is different. Simplifying version nummbers is > great for marketing to a dumb user crowd. Lazarus gets more dumb users, more people ask for help. Less time for people to work on Lazarus and more people

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Bart
On 12/2/09, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > Yes , because many of the subscribers of this mailing list do not have > their English as a mother language and not experts on use of English . > This is easily understood from their English usage style . > > For that reason , we should be forgiving a

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Phil Hess
No hurry. I'm actually kind of excited now again about the prospect of actually getting Orpheus and THtmlPort packages running reliably on all 4 major widgetsets (win32, carbon, gtk2, qt). The improvements in GTK2 / LCL in SVN are big, I think. And if Qt has improved too in SVN... Of course one

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:22, Phil Hess wrote: > Zeljko, > > This is what my Qt "Crashes" for TOvcSpinner is based on. And also on > testing with the current stable version. > > If this is fixed, that's great, but doesn't help the user who has 0.9.28.2. But it could be in 0.9.28.3 then. >

Re: [Lazarus] Testing process for new LCL widgetsets?

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Vincent Snijders wrote: > > You could start with the examples, the testall example was useful when the > win32 > widget set was written. Thanks Vincent, I'll take a look at those. I guess after a while the IDE itself can serve as a test. At least there I will know how it used to work and look w

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Martin
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: That process is already started. I take it you mean cleaning up the code and not "backporting to the original code". In that case, excellent news. ;-) Yes, he means cleaning up. Some of the IFDEF have been removed already, and the only

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Marc Weustink wrote: > > That process is already started. I take it you mean cleaning up the code and not "backporting to the original code". In that case, excellent news. ;-) Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fp

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Steve Harp wrote: Hi All, I’m new to Lazarus and Free Pascal but I’ve been using Delphi since v2. I’ve got some old Delphi apps that I need to compile for Linux. I’m using Lazarus v0.9.28.2 beta on openSUSE 11.2 64-bit. The IDE loads fine and the About box displays normally. However, w

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Phil Hess wrote: > > If Delphi is dead, then what's Lazarus? What I meant to say was that after about Delphi 7 and the rise of Visual Studio + .NET, Delphi took a major hit in popularity. Combine that with Borlands many failed attempt at getting into .NET and then deciding to sell Delphi, the fut

Re: [Lazarus] Testing process for new LCL widgetsets?

2009-12-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, If I want to start implementing the LCL-fpGUI widgetset, is there a test process or automated or manual list of tests I could follow to see where there are still issues? Maybe a set of test projects testing all properties of each component somewhere? If not, how do

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Rigel Rig
I found him not on DVD openSUSE 11.0. But it is certainly on the website for all versions: lazarus devel:languages:pascal/openSUSE_11.2 Lazarus is a free and open source Rapid Application Development tool for the FreePascal compiler using the Lazarus component library - LCL. [more] 1-Click Ins

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Take TSynEdit for example. The code has changed such a lot from the original, I don't think anybody will be able to backport Lazarus's synedit to the original code. So why not simply clean up the Lazarus code and remove all those damn IFDEFs so the code is actually readab

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Phil Hess
Zeljko, This is what my Qt "Crashes" for TOvcSpinner is based on. And also on testing with the current stable version. If this is fixed, that's great, but doesn't help the user who has 0.9.28.2. Also, I want to make sure there aren't any Mac-specific or even endian issues here. I think most of

Re: [Lazarus] QT bindings as defalt (was Release 1.0, part 2)

2009-12-02 Thread Phil Hess
Graeme, If Delphi is dead, then what's Lazarus? The subtext is that with Delphi you can pull off the hat trick of a 2.3 million line app that sells for big bucks and where the client does not tolerate bugs or instabilities or excuses. Can anyone make that claim for Lazarus? Thanks. -Phil --

Re: [Lazarus] Testing process for new LCL widgetsets?

2009-12-02 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: Hi, If I want to start implementing the LCL-fpGUI widgetset, is there a test process or automated or manual list of tests I could follow to see where there are still issues? Maybe a set of test projects testing all properties of each component somewhere? You could st

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Steve Harp
> -Original Message- > From: Mattias Gärtner [mailto:nc-gaert...@netcologne.de] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:09 AM > To: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing > > Zitat von Steve Harp : > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I'm new to Lazarus and Free

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Dipl. Phys. Jörg Schläger
open suse includes lazarus and fpc on DVD here the Version of open suse 11.1 Version: 2.2.2-0 Erstellt am: Di 29 Jul 2008 22:38:09 CEST Installiert am: Mo 31 Aug 2009 11:55:25 CEST Paketgruppe: Development/Languages Lizenz: GPL and modified LGPL Installierte Gr

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2 ... "Lazarus 2009/Q3/Christmas Edition"

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Joyner ᏩᏯ wrote: > But, I do know that if one > does not go fishing, one will not catch any fish. I have two quotes which can easily be applied in this case to Lazarus. ;-) "If you can't imitate him, don't copy him." -- Yogi Berra "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." -- Yogi

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Steve Harp : Hi All, I'm new to Lazarus and Free Pascal but I've been using Delphi since v2. I've got some old Delphi apps that I need to compile for Linux. I'm using Lazarus v0.9.28.2 beta on openSUSE 11.2 64-bit. The IDE loads fine and the About box displays normally. However,

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Rigel Rig wrote: > >> Is there a Linux distribution, which > >> includes in packages Lazarus? > > > >yes > > > Which? In the Ubuntu repositories, it has been available for some time. See attached screenshot. Though, looking at the versions, none of them are the latest releases of FPC or Laza

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2 ... "Lazarus 2009/Q3/Christmas Edition"

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Joyner ᏩᏯ
Helmut Hartl wrote: At the current state this discussion mixes orthogonal things into one dimension. A thing a programmer never should do ... :-) "A wise man should see a diamond gem if it lies before him on the ground - At least he can decide if he wants to use funny arranged carbon atoms - o

[Lazarus] Lazarus crashing

2009-12-02 Thread Steve Harp
Hi All, I'm new to Lazarus and Free Pascal but I've been using Delphi since v2. I've got some old Delphi apps that I need to compile for Linux. I'm using Lazarus v0.9.28.2 beta on openSUSE 11.2 64-bit. The IDE loads fine and the About box displays normally. However, when I select File/Open,

[Lazarus] Testing process for new LCL widgetsets?

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, If I want to start implementing the LCL-fpGUI widgetset, is there a test process or automated or manual list of tests I could follow to see where there are still issues? Maybe a set of test projects testing all properties of each component somewhere? If not, how do you guys know what works an

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Helmut Hartl
a week crash/internal course workshop in Jan.2010 - He agreed. That will help us evaluate possibilities and make progress ... Maybe the "5000 year old principle" of giving something to get something is still applyable ? greets Helmut __ Hinweis vo

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Rigel Rig
Already have a version of Lazarus, which makes some importing from Delphi. Why not release first stable version with this opportunity? The following does not necessarily have it. The aim is to enable easier transfer of applications and components from Delphi. Rigel >Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Rigel Rig
> If it feels buggy, we've lost. So I wrote with less features and no major bugs. Minor bugs have any software. >I doubt. Professionally, maybe. Hobby no, delphi is too expensive for >that (seen from the reactions on last weekends fair I was). The boss of the company will buy it! Professional p

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Vincent Snijders wrote: Maybe because of the tone of voice. Or my bad English. :-/ Regards, - Graeme - Yes , because many of the subscribers of this mailing list do not have their English as a mother language and not experts on use of English . This is easi

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Raistware schrieb: > Be free to work with the most efficient way you can. > Break compatiblity whenever you need to create a better ide. Users will > increase and, eventually some of them will contribute to Lazarus > development... This is a dream proven wrong by reality. 10 years ago there were f

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Vincent Snijders wrote: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk schreef: Unfortunately , there is a concept < law of conservation of bugs > mentioned in the page http://www.site.uottawa.ca:4321/oose/index.html#lawofconservationofbugs Does that mean, we should stop fixing bugs, because you only get more? Vin

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > I think , it is not necessary to have so much fear because my > expectation is that Delphi will not be able to compile any Windows > application directly to Linux or Mac natively. Very true, and considering that Delphi still includes the 'Windows' unit in every

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Raistware wrote: > > Also there are a thing that shock me out completly: ¿why should Lazarus > mantain backward compatibility with Delphi? > First of all, Delphi is not suited to compile anyother platform outside > of windows. I agree, it's a nice to have feature, but it makes Lazarus developme

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 10:23, Marc Weustink wrote: > zeljko wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 December 2009 08:37, Paul Ishenin wrote: > >> For 1.0 rc1 we need to fix 1.0 win32 bugs. Maybe not all the bugs in the > >> tracker with 1.0 target are really has 1.0 target. But at least we need > >> to r

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Raistware
Vincent Snijders escribió: Does that mean, we should stop fixing bugs, because you only get more? No, that mean that a feature freezee is needed to order to achieve an stable release. No new features accepted until all blocking BUGS were solved. Lazarus is stable enough and mature enought to h

Re: [Lazarus] Restore docked layout

2009-12-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Some more documentation about docking is available now in http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/EasyDockingManager See the "Further Options" section for some issues that IMO deserve some discussion. Paul complains about too much text and too few grapics/videos/screenshots. All contributions are

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Rigel Rig wrote: Delphi in 2011 will be on a Linux and Mac, and very rarely Delphi programmer will go to Lazarus. I very much agree! Lazarus v1.0 non-beta must be out before Delphi has cross-platform support. The advantage of Lazarus over Delphi will seriously diminis

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Marc Weustink
zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 08:37, Paul Ishenin wrote: For 1.0 rc1 we need to fix 1.0 win32 bugs. Maybe not all the bugs in the tracker with 1.0 target are really has 1.0 target. But at least we need to review all and decide about each of them. For 1.0 rc2 we need to do the sam

Re: [Lazarus] testing virtual TListView in gtk2

2009-12-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Paul Ishenin wrote: Andrew Haines wrote: I did a small test loading a text file with 50,000+ lines with my custom model and the GtkTreeView retrieved the value of each item in the list on startup. I assume it's to calculate the size for the scrollbar since the height of the listitems is not fix

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 08:37, Paul Ishenin wrote: > For 1.0 rc1 we need to fix 1.0 win32 bugs. Maybe not all the bugs in the > tracker with 1.0 target are really has 1.0 target. But at least we need > to review all and decide about each of them. > > For 1.0 rc2 we need to do the same but fo

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Rigel Rig wrote: Why not both? If there was a stable version of Lazarus, when Borland thought to sell Delphi, would attract many Delphi developers. At that time we already saw an increase of ppl. The 0.9 version didn't scare them. What I read in this thread is that Borland had no problem rele

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Rigel Rig
You can not do v.1 because constantly adding new things! Should be stopped at a certain stable level, to remove volatile components and to release a stable version. Rigel > Оригинално писмо >От: Paul Ishenin >Относно: Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2 >До: Lazarus maili

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Vincent Snijders
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk schreef: Unfortunately , there is a concept < law of conservation of bugs > mentioned in the page http://www.site.uottawa.ca:4321/oose/index.html#lawofconservationofbugs Does that mean, we should stop fixing bugs, because you only get more? Vincnt -- _

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Vincent Snijders wrote: > > Maybe because of the tone of voice. Or my bad English. :-/ Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: comments, bad press, FUD, etc they all scare developers away. I'm trying to do a good thing here, but it seems like all the core Lazarus you must mean some or most, not all developers have a mental block against anything I say. Maybe because of the tone of voice

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Rigel Rig wrote: > Delphi in 2011 will be on a Linux and Mac, and very rarely Delphi > programmer will go to Lazarus. I very much agree! Lazarus v1.0 non-beta must be out before Delphi has cross-platform support. The advantage of Lazarus over Delphi will seriously diminish after that. Regards,

Re: [Lazarus] 2 questions about Component properties

2009-12-02 Thread wile64
2009/12/1 Mattias Gaertner > On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:55:32 +0100 > wile64 wrote: > > > 2009/12/1 Mattias Gaertner > > > > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:33:34 +0100 > > > wile64 wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > 1) I search to resize component when he load, like autosize but with > my > > > > p

Re: [Lazarus] Release 1.0, part 2

2009-12-02 Thread Rigel Rig
Why not both? If there was a stable version of Lazarus, when Borland thought to sell Delphi, would attract many Delphi developers. Delphi in 2011 will be on a Linux and Mac, and very rarely Delphi programmer will go to Lazarus. One of the main advantages of Lazarus would not have it! If there