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Vincent Snijders wrote:
Please, let me know if you find any problems with these release
candidates.
Also let me know if you installed it without any problem.
LAZTAG=/branches/release_0_9_30_4
USEFPC=2.6.0
Building from svn, basic operation OK on SPARC (hosted
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 8 maart 2012 19:19 heeft Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk het volgende geschreven:
0.9.30.2 built from /tags/lazarus_0_9_30_2 using 2.4,4 or 2.6.0 (2.6.0
probably won't work)
CP from my build scripts to try to keep tab on what's happening. This one
is simply an indexed line or if it's an object.
Can the preferred solution display a music rule background, i.e.
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:25:14 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Vincent Snijders wrote:
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markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk het volgende geschreven:
Vincent Snijders wrote:
What's that from SVN
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 8 maart 2012 10:39 heeft Mark Morgan Lloyd
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:25:14 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
The patches users sent for Sparc were for 0.9.31
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:25:14 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 7 maart 2012 20:26 heeft Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk het volgende geschreven:
Vincent Snijders wrote
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:11:40 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
A further question Mattias, if I just run the individual lazarus.exe
file in it's corresponding directory, I presume that would also be fine.
Although, I
Martin wrote:
On 08/03/2012 15:57, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I think what would be really useful would be a redirect, i.e. the IDE
first looks at e.g. ~/.lazarus and if it sees ~/.lazarus/redirect it
expands macros in the line it contains to have the same effect as -pcp.
The version
Vincent Snijders wrote:
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0.9.31 at 35818 using 2.7.1 is OK apart from the form problem.
0.9.30.4RC1 built from /tags/lazarus_0_9_30_4RC1 using 2.6.0 has the
problem.
Which versions do you
Vincent Snijders wrote:
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Vincent Snijders wrote:
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0.9.31 at 35818 using 2.7.1 is OK apart
the config file, what is the current directory (i.e.
. in unix and Windows)? Could this be used to specify the same location
as the binary?
Have the developers ever considered allowing a macro expansion in the
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beginning to look a bit ragged.
branches/release_0_9_30_2_rc1/
branches/release_0_9_30_2_rc2/
branches/release_0_9_30_4/
..
tags/lazarus_0_9_30_2RC1/
tags/lazarus_0_9_30_2RC2/
tags/lazarus_0_9_30_4RC1/
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Vincent Snijders wrote:
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Vincent Snijders wrote:
What's that from SVN? Some of the naming's beginning to look a bit ragged.
The release has been build from this branch:
branches
to build the IDE with packages use
lazbuild --build-ide=
What do you mean- like
lazbuild --build-ide=lazsvnpkg
as an alternative to make all ? In that case what's the basic package
list corresponding to bigide?
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:26:13 +
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:46:18 +0100
Bernd prof7...@googlemail.com wrote:
2012/3/2 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
Why do you build two
a
square panel that changes colour?
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areas at runtime
or drawing vectors? I was hoping to be able to use some fire and
forget bitmaps, possibly with one colour being reserved for
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failures, warnings, hints, etc.
Nice one, I did something similar way back for bookmarks in an embedded
script editor.
Could it be merged with the scrollbar to avoid visual duplication?
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Henry Vermaak wrote:
On 26/02/12 13:29, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've had this sort of requirement in the past, specifically when using
libusb (i.e. the program needed sufficient privilege to grab the device).
You need udev rules that set the user/group permissions for the devices
that you
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 27.02.2012 11:07, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my understanding is that you do
since there is one specific kernel call (in effect, telling the kernel
to release an unrecognised device to an unprivileged program) that won't
work otherwise
Henry Vermaak wrote:
On 27/02/12 10:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but my understanding is that you do
since there is one specific kernel call (in effect, telling the kernel
to release an unrecognised device to an unprivileged program) that won't
work otherwise
, and second in that it's arguably
complete enough that it can be used as a system programming language. My
own experience indicates that as soon as you start using a 4GL or
similar for anything that the implementors didn't think of you're in
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On 26 February 2012 10:31, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: used as a system programming
language. My own experience indicates that as soon as you start using a 4GL or
similar for anything that the implementors didn't think of you're in very deep water.
I guess in my 5 years
. the program needed sufficient privilege to grab the device).
I wonder whether setting either Lazarus or gdb setuid root would help?
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for regex-based SR, and if so how does one
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Martin wrote:
On 25/02/2012 16:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is my understanding correct that in order to get Synedit's replace
facility working, one has to write a custom OnReplaceText handler?
What does this in the source do:
CurReplace:=AReplace;
if ssoRegExpr in AOptions then
CurReplace
, and anybody doing a mashup is used to doing that type of
job PHP/Perl/Python, then an attempt to muscle in could be met with
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Martin wrote:
On 25/02/2012 18:40, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Martin wrote:
On 25/02/2012 16:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is my understanding correct that in order to get Synedit's replace
facility working, one has to write a custom OnReplaceText handler?
What does this in the source do
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
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Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 22.02.2012 22:49 schrieb Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:55:01 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
I've just spotted
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Thanks for that Felipe. So if I'm reading you correctly, as a crude hack I
should be able to start by hooking OnKeyDown etc. as exposed by (instances
of) descendants
either the IDE or the runtimes pick up this error?
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on, what
files should go into it? Specifically, should I be storing .lrs or are
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Martin wrote:
On 20/02/2012 09:24, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've got a Synedit here which uses code as below to rule alternate
background lines to a light colour:
procedure TListForm.PaneMainEditSpecialLineColors(Sender: TObject;
Line: integer;
var
Martin wrote:
On 20/02/2012 09:24, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
In the same program (running on Linux), the Synedit font appears to
force itself to a generic Sans at runtime, irrespective of what is
actually selected (e.g. Monospace). Again, this is OK up to around
0.9.26.
No idea... You set
When storing a Lazarus project in a local Subversion or similar, what
files should be added and what discarded?
As a particular example, should .lrs files be saved or are they better
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zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Quoting Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk:
Martin wrote:
On 20/02/2012 09:24, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
In the same program (running on Linux), the Synedit font appears to
force itself to a generic Sans at runtime, irrespective of what is
actually
Martin wrote:
On 13/02/2012 18:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
But be warned that before I go anywhere near that I'm going to be
investigating injecting APL-style characters into Synedit. You might
prefer to keep your head down :-)
Let me know how it goes. As long as they are represented
that had been polluted by the trunk IDE, and for the moment at least
am trying to consolidate at 0.9.30.3 (fixed).
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or dynamic content- and the programming model is
not good at positioning this and then shrink-fitting a frame around it,
taking into account any widgetset-defined furniture.
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there's probably a
programmer's editor with whatever desktop you use e.g. Kate for KDE.
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happening. Link below might help.
http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Martin wrote:
On 13/02/2012 08:18, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Martin wrote:
you got my 2nd mail? In trunk you can use Gutter.OnResize
It is no longer internally used.
Yes, but I'd spent the last few days scratching my head over a project
that had been polluted by the trunk IDE
something
(of dubious accuracy) to say about it; if you'd asked about a specific
obscure implementation of C or C++ (anybody remember AD2500? or
Zorland?) they'd have been completely nonplussed.
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Martin wrote:
On 12/02/2012 18:19, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Continuing with my exercise of recompiling programs with (fairly) a
recent version of Lazarus, I've got one here with two synedits: the
bottom one is used to display and possibly edit a file, the top one is
populated with numbers
) Allowing that the GUI-oriented stuff hasn't changed significantly in
the program since it was on 0.9.30, how can I take the project and force
it to be saved without any recently-introduced properties which now make
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Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb:
I'm in an uncomfortable situation where the last few weeks' worth of
trunk won't display a project's main form (populated only with
standard controls) and won't compile it to anything reliable (noting
other discussion, it's got
/lazarus
NOTE: codetools config file not found - using defaults
NOTE: help options config file not found - using defaults
TMainIDE.DoOpenProjectFile select form in designer:
HeavyWethersForm:THeavyWethersForm TDesigner
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to building the project using fixed, but I can
probably revert to an earlier version of the code from my local svn i.e.
back out of any UI pollution caused by trunk.
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zeljko wrote:
On Saturday 11 of February 2012 15:00:35 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
If I use the trunk IDE built for Qt rather than GTK2 then the form
displays (some colours might be off), the project will compile but
won't run reliably (thread issues?). To emphasise this, this is with
all
fine for
more than a year.
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project and manually removing properties (from which
files- .lfm?) or would I be better going to an older revision to get
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is OK by now) and go back in local svn to a point that will allow me to
build reliably on 0.9.30+2.6.0.
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2.11.3-2
libc6-dev 2.11.3-2
Linux pye-dev-07 2.6.38-custom #2 SMP Thu Jun 9 11:07:18 GMT 2011 i686
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to compile and run OK. I'm going to work through any other
projects I've touched over the last few months checking they're OK with
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It's the sort of thing that would be a compile-time option on a Cray :-)
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Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 09/02/2012 11:18, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Lukasz Sokol wrote:
On 09/02/2012 10:01, Sven Barth wrote:
The memory that is used by CPU caches is the fastest (but also
the most expensive that's why it's only used for the relatively
small caches).
Regards, Sven
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Ludo Brands wrote:
I was able to procure fpc-2.4.4, and install it on the arm-linux
machine. I also checked-out Lazarus from the link you gave; and ran
make bigide.
It ran fine for a while, but then termintaed, with the following
error ::
What could I try? I
appropriate to
go straight to trunk for this but if anybody is confident that a
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I'm running 2.7.1. If anybody wants me to put more time into this please
squawk.
For the benefit of anybody getting here via Google, see
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_on_Solaris plus (for
background info) http://mantis.freepascal.org/view.php?id=18271
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Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 31 January 2012 11:39, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: No. I don't want to simulate a
keyboard, I want to be able to pick up an Alt or Meta shift so that if my keyboard was
engraved like http://www.aplusdev.org/keyboard.html I could get the extra characters
into editing
word?)
Not so much a reserved word as a predefined procedure if you're pulling
in the standard libraries.
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/system/filefunctions.html
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Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Thanks for that Felipe. So if I'm reading you correctly, as a crude hack I
should be able to start by hooking OnKeyDown etc. as exposed by (instances
of) descendants
is adequate to allow keywords/selectors to be defined in e.g. Far
Eastern scripts, and I'm fairly sure UTF-8 would get very messy.
Anyway, after all this messing around perhaps my resistance to the idea
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, or at least a
uniform interface?
In short, where do I start? :-)
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Over the last few weeks I've hacked together a partial APL
implementation, for use as a way of specifying lists of numbers etc.
when passing commands between computers implementing a large
distributed system. For test purposes I've
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 28.01.2012 18:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Ludo Brands wrote:
I'll start digging in and see where I get to, but any suggestions-
particularly relating to Linux- will be welcome.
Under X11 you can modify your keyboard to your likings. 4 levels per
key are
standard using
interest). You can do a bit
with xmodmap, but things rapidly start getting messy: X has been rather
halfhearted in its embrace of Unicode.
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now that I've got the bulk of the
parser/evaluator out of the way, and before I start on the Lazarus app
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essential, is hardly
a substitute for being able to access it from the IDE when offline or
blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely no substitute
for the context-sensitive help offered by most IDEs.
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:21:29PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I'd suggest that having online documentation, while essential, is hardly
a substitute for being able to access it from the IDE when offline or
blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 24 January 2012 18:11, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Yes, but the point I'm trying to make is that those files are
effectively locked out now for anybody unable to run HyperHelp,
e.g. because they're not running on x86.
True, it is x86 and x86-64 only. But to be fair
/wiki/wiki.cgi?p=kylix-3-open-edition
HyperHelp runs fine under 64-bit linux too (that is what I currently
use).
Yes, but the point I'm trying to make is that those files are
effectively locked out now for anybody unable to run HyperHelp, e.g.
because they're not running on x86.
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If I understand things correctly, HyperHelp is closed-source,
unmaintained, and available for x86 Linux only. Is there an
alternative for other platforms such as Solaris or non-x86?
At the time of Win3.0 I wrote an decompiler and viewer
out e.g. Solaris is far more taxing.
My own practice is to install build-essential and gdb on any new system
(except for outward-facing systems where those are a security risk),
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Since messages window isn't automatically cleared by IDE editing
activity, would whoever is responsible consider adding a timestamp to
the successfully built message so that users can see at a glance how
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operations which becomes a cycle if part of it is
intentionally repeated.
In both cases the important thing is not so much the adjective
(circular, cyclic) but the combination of adjective plus noun, which
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on 2.7.1. Trunk used to work on 2.7.1 (e.g. 32573).
That's a trifle inconvenient on a platform where there have been CG
fixes since 2.4/2.6.
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, slightly out of order in using an example for
Sorokin rather than the old one. But I too fail to see what the OP is
grounding his concern on, unless he assumes that write() and writeln()
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With the caveat that fixes might get applied to one or the other. For
example I see that Ludo's fix for
http://mantis.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20806 (plus at least one
alignment issue) is in FPC 19759 but not in Lazarus 34371.
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 23.12.2011 15:13, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:47:23AM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
The regex that I'm using belongs to FCL. [FCL]RegEx.TRegexEngine.
TRegExpr (unit RegExpr) is also part of FCL in 2.7.1 since some
weeks
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no experience, but on Linux
using FPC 2.4.4 I had to set up a symlink for the library (see Joost's
comments).
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, I was anticipating that but this was the result of a
quick-and-dirty late-night experiment which relied on
http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/docs/rtl/keyboard/tkeyevent.html
being correct: it explicitly says a typecast should work.
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. I'd like to
be able to highlight header columns to mark tab positions, it's safe to
assume that all visible character positions will contain a digit or a space.
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Martin wrote:
On 29/10/2011 11:30, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there an easy way of setting columns to a different background
and/or foreground colour?
I've got two synedits, one in a main window with music ruled
coloured lines and a small one above it numbered for columns, provided
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:35:25 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
[...]
I'm looking at some badly-OCRed Pascal,
I'm curious, why do OCR Pascal?
I think it was you who said that you've got a particular dislike of
Perl? Well I've found
.
I'm running svnversion in Execute before, and have a minor niggle that
the project invariably shows up as modified when I do the build. If I
understand things correctly, having a separate .lps (not in VC) would
fix this, in which case +1.
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