Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > I like lua and am currently learning it. It has advantages that it is a > > clean syntax, good for configuration files and configuration processing, > > it is smaller than Perl/Python, but offers more features than 'sh', it is > > very portable and ve

RE: [Leaf-devel] New User Interface Tool: Breakthrough!

2001-07-18 Thread Hilton Travis
Hi, I purchased a Dick Smith "System 80" quite a few years ago - it was an Australian TRS-80 Model III clone. This box was awesome - with 48KB RAM and an inbuilt tape drive. It absolutely screamed along. I even got a small B&W TV with the deal (second hand PC and TV) to use as a monitor. :-)

Site backup/mirror (was: Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Subject changed to: Site backup/mirror Dale Long, 2001-07-19 10:20 +0930 >On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > I'm working on a mirroring solution, but I haven't completed it yet. I > > listed the areas that would need to be duplicated for a mirror. The > > current storage requirements are

Re: [Leaf-devel] Script for generating Web Archives

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > Look at this. I tried to do this in /bin/sh, but fought with scoping > rules too long - I thought everything was global! I was wrong... both > /bin/sh and /bin/ksh did the same. > > So I switched to Lua 4.0. Will lua add to the size of Oxygen or wi

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > I'm working on a mirroring solution, but I haven't completed it yet. I > listed the areas that would need to be duplicated for a mirror. The current > storage requirements are approximately 2G. A quarter of this is David's ISO. > > ref. [Leaf-devel] Site

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > Dale Long, 2001-07-18 12:33 +0930 > >I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say > >CPAN in format, with version information and so on. At the momment, it is > >a little chaotic. > > Dale, > CPAN format? The Comprehensive Pe

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > Brings up a question - like busybox, lua (the interpreter) is extensible > - I mean, via libraries and code and such. So now, on my system or > around here I have: > > 1. Lua > 2. Lua + POSIXLibrary (poslib) > 3. Lua + POSIX Library + Lua sockets (net

[Leaf-devel] 5.25 inch SBCs

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Sensney
This company has a variety of Crusoe and socket 370 5.25" SBCs, CPU cards, 1U cases, MicroPCI cards and a number of other components. http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/products.htm

RE: [Leaf-devel] Help file shell script

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
On another note, does anyone else see the benefit from having the output of 'tar ztf .lrp' available on the server as well? Just a thought. > More succinct (and doesn't require a pipe or loading of big ol' sed): > > rootpkg=${i%%.lrp} Interesting, I'd never seen it done that way. I certainly ne

[Leaf-devel] Script for generating Web Archives

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Look at this. I tried to do this in /bin/sh, but fought with scoping rules too long - I thought everything was global! I was wrong... both /bin/sh and /bin/ksh did the same. So I switched to Lua 4.0. Here is the code: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/webdesc Here is the source *.desc fi

[Leaf-devel] Help file shell script

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Andrew Hoying wrote: > what if we modified the script like so... A code time to sharpen the chain saw :-) Permit me... > #!/bin/sh > > cd $PACKAGES > for i in `ls *.lrp` More succinct (and doesn't require loading ls): for i in *.lrp > do > echo $i > tar xzf $i var/lib/lrpkg > c

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 12:16 -0700 >On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Everyone, > > Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager > > documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until > > I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. > > > > W

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 12:16 -0700 >On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Everyone, > > Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager > > documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until > > I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. > >Requir

Re: [Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread jdnewmil
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > Everyone, > Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager documents. > I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until I get some > feedback on this format. Thanks. > > Why does the DocManager... > http://sourceforge.net/do

[Leaf-devel] FAQ update: Why does the DocManager...

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Please take a look at the new proposed format for our DocManager documents. I don't want to start modifying the rest of our FAQs until I get some feedback on this format. Thanks. Why does the DocManager... http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1793&group_id=13751 -- Mik

RE: [Leaf-devel] pub/packages directory structure

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
> >Andrew, > >I'm not very good at writing shell scripts, but I belive your > >modifications give us version information also. I have one > addition that I > >think makes sense. Add "umask 220" before the first cd command. > This will > >grantee the correct permissions on the generated files.

[Leaf-devel] pub/packages directory structure

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
>Andrew, >I'm not very good at writing shell scripts, but I belive your >modifications give us version information also. I have one addition that I >think makes sense. Add "umask 220" before the first cd command. This will >grantee the correct permissions on the generated files. > >Should we c

[Leaf-devel] pub/packages directory structure (was: RE: [Leaf-devel]Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Subject changed to: pub/packages directory structure Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-18 12:08 -0600 >Forgot about the line wrapping of e-mail, and also cleaned up a few >things I saw right as I hit send... > >That script should read: Andrew, I'm not very good at writing shell scripts, but I belive your m

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
Forgot about the line wrapping of e-mail, and also cleaned up a few things I saw right as I hit send... That script should read: #!/bin/sh cd $PACKAGES for i in *.lrp do tar xzf $i var/lib/lrpkg cd var/lib/lrpkg rootpkg=`echo $i|sed 's/.lrp//'` [ -f $rootpkg.version ] && mv $rootpkg.help \ $

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
> >#!/bin/sh > > > >cd $PACKAGES > >for i in *.lrp ; do tar xzf $i var/lib/lrpkg/*.help 2> /dev/null; done > >mv var/lib/lrpkg/*.help . > >rm -rf var/lib/lrpkg > > > >...how's that? > > David, > That's slick. The help file is part of the package format already. I will > need to modify our .htacce

Re: Subjects (was Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-07-18 10:44 -0700 >grumble... content... grumble... subject... grumble... price of matzoh >balls in china... asleep at the keyboard... > >[... discussion of helpfile formats omitted ...] > >;) Jeff, Thanks for the first chuckle of the day. :) I gather we should change the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-18 12:08 -0400 >Mike Noyes wrote: > > > > David Douthitt, 2001-07-17 23:34 -0400 > > >Andrew Hoying wrote: > > > > > > > We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be > > > > easy to parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but > > > > would

Subjects (was Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb))

2001-07-18 Thread jdnewmil
grumble... content... grumble... subject... grumble... price of matzoh balls in china... asleep at the keyboard... [... discussion of helpfile formats omitted ...] ;) --- Jeff NewmillerThe .

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-18 11:54 -0400 >Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this > > very thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up > > with David's production. > > > > Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objectio

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: > > David Douthitt, 2001-07-17 23:34 -0400 > >Andrew Hoying wrote: > > > > > We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be > > > easy to parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but would > > > require updating a lot of old packages to include th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: > Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this very > thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up with > David's production. > > Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objections, text files in > the format specified below sho

[Leaf-devel] Compact Flash with write protect

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Take a look at this Compact Flash drive. It has a hardware write protect switch. Can we use it with the CF->ide adapters? Write Protect CF Card http://www.pqi.com.tw/pqi-eng/product/flash-card/wpcf.htm -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ __

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, I forgot to mention this. When creating new sub directories in the packages tree, set the ownership to "yourname.leaf" and the permissions to "2664". Thanks. Mike Noyes, 2001-07-18 07:05 -0700 >There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. I'd >like packages t

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-18 09:02 -0600 >One other question, how are we going to resolve package name disputes, >like two different versions of the same package? Should we create an >archive subfolder for old versions? Or a glibc2.1 subfolder for the new >development work David is doing? Or we co

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > Jack Coates wrote: > > > Now that would rock :-) especially if one could simply snarf/apkg the > > packages into place from sourceforge.net. Major potential for security > > risk, but there are ways to work it out. > > Couldn't one use scp to copy from

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Dale Long, 2001-07-18 14:15 +0930 >One thing I would like to see is easy and consitent features to mirror >LEAF work. I was wondering why Oxygen has multiple core bin files. :-) > >Ultimately, I would like to be able to rsync one or two of the core LEAF >projects, plus the other addon packages. D

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
> Andrew, > Good question. I think that is a good idea. Rick started doing this very > thing for David's Oxygen packages, but he was unable to keep up with > David's production. Thank you. > Does anyone have a better idea? If there are no objections, text files in > the format specified below sh

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Dale Long, 2001-07-18 12:33 +0930 >On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > > Perhaps LEAF can adopt the Debian classification system (free and > > non-free, etc.) and classify packages that way? > >I would be interested in seeing an LRP package repositry, similar to say >CPAN in format, with

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
Andrew Hoying, 2001-07-18 08:15 -0600 > > David, > > There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. > > I'd like packages that are placed in it to have ownership set to > > "yourname.leaf" and permissions set to "664". You can scp files > > into it at: > > > > /home/groups/l/

RE: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hoying
> David, > There is already a packages directory specifically for this purpose. I'd > like packages that are placed in it to have ownership set to > "yourname.leaf" and permissions set to "664". You can scp files > into it at: > > /home/groups/l/le/leaf/pub/packages > One question, how should we

Re: [Leaf-devel] Licensing (specifically, djb)

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-17 23:34 -0400 >Andrew Hoying wrote: > > > We could develop a nice xml/xslt interface to it all that would be > > easy to parse, sort and categorize. It makes a lot of sense, but would > > require updating a lot of old packages to include the .desc file. > >That wouldn't ta

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > I still haven't looked at lua, so I don't know how it would work for > /linuxrc. I've been figuring on working to build a busybox sh based > /linuxrc, possibly statically linked against a stripped ulibc, and see how > small a "boot-strap" lrp could be made. Root.lr

Re: [Leaf-devel] Using a new shell for linuxrc?

2001-07-18 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> All of this is part of an effort to shrink root.lrp; I've already > removed /var/spool/cron (to a new cron.lrp) and much of /sbin to > init.lrp > > What do you think of using lua for writing /linuxrc? Anyone here have > experience in lua? > > I'm about to dive in headlong :-) I still