Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
On 2/15/02 at 9:58 AM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Douthitt wrote: > > > > On 2/14/02 at 4:36 PM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For example, /var/log is the standard residence of logfiles. > > > > Is it? Only in Linux apparently; my Unixware

[Leaf-devel] Archives, Sources, CVS et al

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
I finally came to realize what the confusion I was feeling was - especially in reference to sources that are used IN a base LEAF system. I had been considering three different methods of creating packages or binaries: * Create a directory in the source tree (lrp/) and do a make in this directory

[Leaf-devel] The OTHER side....

2002-02-15 Thread David Douthitt
No I'm not talking about Windows.. :-) I found something called a SG Cluster, which is a floppy-based load distributor system based on PicoBSD (a floppy-based BSD distribution now being released WITH FreeBSD sources - like tinyX is). This floppy will act as a load director - that is, it hand

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
Serge Caron wrote: > > Hello Matt, > > First, the important stuff: > > >or any of us lacked passion. That's kind of insulting. And what > > Please accept a direct apology from me to you for no other reason than the > fact that your feelings were hurt. No problem, my feelings weren't hurt.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2002-02-15 15:34 -0800, Matt Schalit wrote: >That doesn't work. This place is just a central location >for people to congregate. I don't think it's a top down, >standards producing enumeration of anything. But that's >just what I took from Mike Noyes's explanation of what >LEAF was when I jo

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
Mike Noyes wrote: > > Charles Steinkuehler, 2002-02-15 08:21 -0600 I hate to be a bit lazy, but lacking all the fancy Linux distro's, I was wondering if somebody could distill the essential commands needed to grab everything in bulk data format so that I'd just have a few .tgz files or somethin

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Matt Schalit
"Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > David Douthitt wrote: [snip] > > Not only is standardization impossible, but the little variances are > > what makes a distribution individual and perhaps better than others. > > Nothing is impossible. > > In fact, your dependent clause, again, is my point! We

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Serge Caron wrote: > [ snip ] > I am waiting for a plane and cannot do that right now. I suggest you visit > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/scaron/leaf.htm with a fresh eye and mess > around with the discussion.img floppy. > > Please take apart root.lrp before you start (just for fun!). If

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2002-02-15 09:58 -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: >How many times need I state: ``NO, I am not advocating any system of >commandments and laws, transgression of which invokes the ire of the >greater community; rather, I believe that it is important -- no, >critical -- that I, as LEAF user and,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
David Douthitt wrote: > > On 2/14/02 at 4:36 PM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For example, /var/log is the standard residence of logfiles. > > Is it? Only in Linux apparently; my Unixware and HP-UX systems use > /var/adm/syslog. I am sorry that you always miss my point

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
David Douthitt wrote: > > On 2/14/02 at 8:05 AM, Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know that it is available; but, it is *not* included in > > DCD -- is it included in Oxygen? I do not argue against > > its usage; rather, I am often frustrated by lack of real > > awk, sed a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Correction #2: my bad . . . "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > VoilĂ ! > > Serge Caron wrote: > > > > >Let me reduce my confusion to its firstmost problem: How does your sed > > >process facilitate ``*I don't backup program binaries*''? > > > > > >AFAIK, ${pkg}.list files -- _minus_ ${pkg}.exclude

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Correction: my bad . . . "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > VoilĂ ! > > Serge Caron wrote: > > > > >Let me reduce my confusion to its firstmost problem: How does your sed > > >process facilitate ``*I don't backup program binaries*''? > > > > > >AFAIK, ${pkg}.list files -- _minus_ ${pkg}.exclude.li

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
Charles Steinkuehler, 2002-02-15 08:21 -0600 > > SF provides nightly tarballs of our repository for backup purposes. > > > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/leaf-cvsroot.tar.gz > >I grabbed our CVS tarball yesterday, but have yet to try and make a >repository out of it. Current size is abo

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> SF provides nightly tarballs of our repository for backup purposes. > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/leaf-cvsroot.tar.gz I grabbed our CVS tarball yesterday, but have yet to try and make a repository out of it. Current size is about 35 Meg. I'd prefer to not have to download this ev

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: Standards and due process :-)

2002-02-15 Thread guitarlynn
I would just like to thank everyone for this discussion. Due to limited examples and precise wording designed to be clear (but somehow let most of the information vague), I am finally coming into a more complete understanding of what was originally proposed, and what direction some developers wou

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2002-02-15 09:19 +0100, Ewald Wasscher wrote: >Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> >>- Look into mirroring our CVS content, downloads directory, and SF >>"meta-data" >Last time I checked I didn't have normal shell access to the cvs server. >So unless SF cooperates it will be hard to backup the repo

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Mirror

2002-02-15 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > >- Look into mirroring our CVS content, downloads directory, and SF >"meta-data" > Last time I checked I didn't have normal shell access to the cvs server. So unless SF cooperates it will be hard to backup the repository. It seems CVSup would be perfect for this, b