Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2005-03-25 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 14:14, Eric Wolzak wrote: > sorry for being so quiet for so long, my new job is takeing lots of energy > and > time. ( but positiv stress :) ) Eric, Do you still have time for Bering? If not, would you like to find someone to pass the branch lead to? -- Mike Noyes http:

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-13 Thread Erich Titl
Mike At 20:18 13.07.2004, Mike Noyes wrote: On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:14, Erich Titl wrote: > At 15:51 13.07.2004, Mike Noyes wrote: > >Lua and uClibc are available. Lua was even packaged and used by David > >Douthitt in Oxygen. > > actually lua sounds quite interesting, looks pretty small, it could

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-13 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:14, Erich Titl wrote: > At 15:51 13.07.2004, Mike Noyes wrote: > >Lua and uClibc are available. Lua was even packaged and used by David > >Douthitt in Oxygen. > > actually lua sounds quite interesting, looks pretty small, it could open > new horizons. Does anyone know if

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-13 Thread Erich Titl
Mike At 15:51 13.07.2004, Mike Noyes wrote: On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:32, Chad Carr wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > The problem is, basically, that the existing tools I know of are written > in perl or C++, both of which are too large for our purposes. Chad, Lua and uClibc

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-13 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:32, Chad Carr wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > The problem is, basically, that the existing tools I know of are written > in perl or C++, both of which are too large for our purposes. Chad, Lua and uClibc are available. Lua was even packaged and us

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-12 Thread Chad Carr
On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 09:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 13:53, Eric Wolzak wrote: > > It seems the discussion starts again :) > > Eric, > Yes. :-) Yes. We have a lot to talk about. I have begun coding again. We should talk before things get out of hand... ;-) > > Did anybody t

Re: [leaf-devel] source config

2004-07-12 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 13:53, Eric Wolzak wrote: > It seems the discussion starts again :) Eric, Yes. :-) > Did anybody try out the weblet.lrp / cdb.lrp which is a working demo of parts > of the webconfiguation > www.leafinfo.com/webconfig I took a look at it, but didn't do any testing. > I a

RE: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-06 Thread S Mohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Carr > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config > > > On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:58 PM, S Mohan wrote: >

RE: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-06 Thread S Mohan
. Warm regards Mohan > -Original Message- > From: Chad Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config > > > On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:14 PM, S Mohan wrote: > > 3. As par

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Chad Carr
On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:58 PM, S Mohan wrote: Chad and list, Are the triggers asynchronous or synchronous? I imagine triggers can be used for semantic validation across packages and take appropriate decisions. If it does come to an irresolvable state, then errors have to be directed back to the ini

RE: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread S Mohan
codes passed by called programs via triggers. Hope I have been lucid enough. Regards Mohan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Carr > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [

RE: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread S Mohan
ginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Carr > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:13 AM > To: Ray Olszewski > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config > > > On Jul 5, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Ray Olszewski w

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 14:41, Nathan Angelacos wrote: > It works as an "advanced home router" for the web case. I'm not at > liberty to give the whole web thing away, but if anyone is interested > I could peel off a few cgi's as a demo. Nathan, Are you willing to donate your snippet(s) of code t

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Chad Carr
On Jul 5, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Ray Olszewski wrote: Some discussion of this might be profitable. I think so, too. Shall we start? I really do think we can work through this, I do. We just need to talk it through. We should probably start up a task force of some kind consisting at least one each

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Nathan Angelacos
--- Ray Olszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually no. I meant people other than Erich who are either upstream > developers (e.g., Tom) or packagers (e.g., Charles). That is, the sorts of > people who will actually have to use, or to ignore (as they have up to now, > saving the oc

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Eric Wolzak
IL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config Date sent: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:15:39 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Ray Olszewski wrote: > > > > > The really really hard parts -- e.g., the structure of the Shorewall > > s

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 10:24 PM 7/5/2004 +0200, Erich Titl wrote: [...] I'm not dead set on this ... I'm happy to listen to an argument for doing it the other way ... but I don't see the case for doing it the way you propose to be so obvious that it doesn't require an explanation. What motivates me to propose my ap

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Tom Eastep
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Ray Olszewski wrote: > > The really really hard parts -- e.g., the structure of the Shorewall > subsection -- are not yet done. Or at least I hope not ... this area lacks > very basic details, such as a way to specify port forwarding/DNAT. > Here are some random thoughts. I d

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Eric Wolzak
Hello List, sorry for being so quiet for so long, my new job is takeing lots of energy and time. ( but positiv stress :) ) I just uploaded the work in progress on the cdb.lrp and weblet.lrp on my server at http://www.leafinfo.com/webconfig/ I played a lot with the webbased configuration, and

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Chad Carr
On Jul 5, 2004, at 1:24 PM, Erich Titl wrote: Your analysis is convincing, especially as it covers the most important part of getting the system configured the way the user wants it. My suggestion to allow the inverse way was wrong in the way it was formulated. I would actually love if the UI sh

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Chad Carr
On Jul 5, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Ray Olszewski wrote: At 10:30 AM 7/5/2004 -0700, Chad Carr wrote: On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Ray Olszewski wrote: Erich -- I'll be a bit happier when this discussion starts to attract comments from someone other than the two of us (and Mike). Until then, a couple of

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Erich Titl
Ray and List At 18:47 05.07.2004, Ray Olszewski wrote: Erich -- I'll be a bit happier when this discussion starts to attract comments from someone other than the two of us (and Mike). Until then, a couple of small responses to what you wrote. (After I wrote this, I got Mike's mail forwarding Cha

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 12:17, Ray Olszewski wrote: > Probably some of this was discussed a year ago, though I didn't find that > discussion today when I looked. Ray, Unfortunately, much of the discussion was held in off list messages and irc, so the content isn't available. :-( > BTW, I'd still l

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 11:36, Etienne Charlier wrote: > I'm really glad that this thread started up! > > I can help modifying package to take care of the reading config values > from the repository !! Etienne, Would you like write access to src/config in cvs? -- Mike Noyes http://sourceforge.n

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 10:30 AM 7/5/2004 -0700, Chad Carr wrote: On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Ray Olszewski wrote: Erich -- I'll be a bit happier when this discussion starts to attract comments from someone other than the two of us (and Mike). Until then, a couple of small responses to what you wrote. I guess you pro

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Etienne Charlier
ation to such a system Regards Etienne - Original Message - From: "Chad Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config > > On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Ray Olszewski wrote: > >

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Chad Carr
On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Ray Olszewski wrote: Erich -- I'll be a bit happier when this discussion starts to attract comments from someone other than the two of us (and Mike). Until then, a couple of small responses to what you wrote. I guess you probably meant myself, Lynn or Eric, hmm? (After

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Ray Olszewski
Erich -- I'll be a bit happier when this discussion starts to attract comments from someone other than the two of us (and Mike). Until then, a couple of small responses to what you wrote. (After I wrote this, I got Mike's mail forwarding Chad's messages. At this point, they don't change my thin

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Erich Titl
Hi Ray and List At 07:50 05.07.2004 -0700, Ray Olszewski wrote: >At 08:36 AM 7/5/2004 +0200, Erich Titl wrote: >>Mike >... >After Mike posted the request yesterday, I took a look at this sub-project too. I >read it, and its limitations, exactly as you do, Erich. It's designed not to solve >the

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 08:36 AM 7/5/2004 +0200, Erich Titl wrote: Mike At 10:17 04.07.2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: >Everyone, >I'd like us to complete the work Chad Carr started on the leaf config >system. This is one of the main deficiencies I feel we have presently. >lrcfg isn't viable as a sole option anymore. Cha

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 23:36, Erich Titl wrote: > At 10:17 04.07.2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > >I'd like us to complete the work Chad Carr started on the leaf config > >system. This is one of the main deficiencies I feel we have presently. > >lrcfg isn't viable as a sole option anymore. Chad's sys

Re: [leaf-devel] Source: config

2004-07-05 Thread Erich Titl
Mike At 10:17 04.07.2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: >Everyone, >I'd like us to complete the work Chad Carr started on the leaf config >system. This is one of the main deficiencies I feel we have presently. >lrcfg isn't viable as a sole option anymore. Chad's system allows for >multiple front-end sup