Yeah, Mandrake. Oxygen was 7.0, Helium was 7.1. They ran out of elements
too and 7.2 is Odyssey. Don't know what 8.0 will be, but I'm rooting for
Bloody-Jihad-of-Death. You could use that for your next release though,
I don't mind. Or maybe my favorite subway sign: Emergency Third Rail
Power Trip.
or whatsoever to run on the box itself.
I am afraid that if we would run the "setup script" on the router we
would need a lot of intelligence and programms on the box with the
problems size, attackability ( is this a real word ? ).
The way to create Setup script could be platform independent,
Mike Noyes wrote:
> What other files should I release in the files area? Also, I want to make a
> tarball of your packages and release it in the files area. Do you have any
> new packages to add to:
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/packages
There aren't any other new disk images, but the
Matthew Schalit wrote:
> It's such a tight project already, that it'd be a bummer, imo,
> to let a few odd bugs show up. I can help in small ways,
> and maybe that'll take some of the load off you.
Thanks!
> I'm asking, and I'll give it a try. I'm a bit newish
> to gdb, but I know enough to l
David Douthitt, 2001-03-26 16:54 -0600
>Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> > What other files should I release in the files area? Also, I want to
> > make a tarball of your packages and release it in the files area. Do
> > you have any new packages to add to:
> > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/oxygen/packages
of course, this depends how you define ISP.
world.std.com was first, as i remember.
panix was pretty early.
the well was more a bbs and closed community than an isp.
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:54:59AM -0800, Scott C. Best wrote:
> David:
> No kidding. That one came out of my WayBack machi
Mike Noyes wrote:
> $ scp filename \
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/groups/ftp/pub/leaf/oxygen/packages
>
> I'd setup an alias to do this.
I'll do that, thanks!
Where would be a good place for a "data" ISO image? I've an image I'm
tempted to put up, but the boot image does not work correctly. It
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-03-25 18:39 -0800
> >On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-03-25 15:14 -0800
[...]
> > > >---
> >
> > > >sed -e "/INSERT IN
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Matthew Schalit wrote:
> So I read your followup that I quoted above, and you mention
> that ifconfig should get it right, "if you specify the nemask
> and the IP address." I tried that and is doesn't use those
> two to calculate the broadcast.
>
> $ ifconfig eth0 63.194.
Everyone,
Our lists are now being archived at the Mail-Archive in addition to
GeoCrawler. Rick and I will attempt to recreate the older messages in our
new list archives.
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Jack Coates wrote:
> between power and Internet access, San Jose is getting to
> be a tough place to be a geek :-(
But it ought to be a GREAT place to be a Disaster Recovery
Specialist :-(
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Matthew Schalit wrote:
>
> Mark Seiden wrote:
> >
> > i'm getting a lot of random-seeming (but completely reproduceable) seg
> > faults that i don't remember existing in the older versions of oxygen.
> >
> > sul-lockss10.stanford.edu:/etc/init.d # more network
> ...
> > Segmentation fault
> > su
"N. Sean Timm" wrote:
>
> Is there a reason that /etc/inittab contains the following line uncommented
> by default?
>
> T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
>
> This causes a message to constantly appear on the screen (something along
> the lines of "respawning too fast"), and it's t
Mark Seiden wrote:
>
> i'm getting a lot of random-seeming (but completely reproduceable) seg
> faults that i don't remember existing in the older versions of oxygen.
>
> e.g. even busybox "tar" and "more" seg fault.
The latter I know about (more); I've not seen busybox tar segfault
before.
>
Jack Coates wrote:
> This got me thinking -- does LRP have a disk cache? And if so, why?
> Caching one hunk of system RAM in another is not sensible.
Why not? As I understand HP-UX, "swap" involves swapping files to
buffers in memory (first anyway) - so that ZERO swapping is normal. Of
course,
George Metz wrote:
> I at one point was - while I was still a dreamy schmuck and thought I knew
> something (right before I tried to puzzle out Oxygen's scripts =) -
> planning on doing a release that combined features of Oxygen with those of
> a few other things here and there.
>
> I was gonna
Matthew Schalit wrote:
> So I read your followup that I quoted above, and you mention
> that ifconfig should get it right, "if you specify the nemask
> and the IP address." I tried that and is doesn't use those
> two to calculate the broadcast.
>
> $ ifconfig eth0 63.194.213.179 netmask 255.2
Mark Seiden wrote:
> yes, i fixed this in mine also but i use e3 in emacs emulation mode.
> dunno about zile. it isn't in my lrps.
All major editors except THE (VMS Edit clone) are on the major data
disks - including the System Rescue Disk and the Network Tools Disk #1.
The included editors ar
Mark Seiden wrote:
> okay, so what's changed recently? something to do with
> libsafe?
Libsafe hasn't changed in a long time; neither has glibc. Busybox seems
to change daily :-)
> here's another reproduceable segfault somewhere in the middle of scp:
> sul-lockss10.stanford.edu:/sbin # scp un
Matthew Schalit wrote:
> Yes I see it now that you quoted the offending command.
> The syntax is crap :)
>
> Wrong
> -
> ifconfig $IFNAME $IPADDR ${MASK:+netmask $MASK} ${ETHER:+hw $ETHER}
>${BROADCAST:+broadcast $BROADCAST} $STATE
>
> Correct
> --
> ifconfig $IFNAME $IPADDR ${
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > This got me thinking -- does LRP have a disk cache? And if so, why?
> > Caching one hunk of system RAM in another is not sensible.
>
> Why not? As I understand HP-UX, "swap" involves swapping files to
> buffers in memory (fi
Just wanted to pass along this article about the
woes of Northpoint and MSN. Eeesh.
-Scott
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AT&T-NorthPoint To Curtail Service
By BRUCE MEYERSON
AP Business Writer
NEW YORK (AP) via NewsEdge Corporation -
More than 100,000 sub
Scott C. Best wrote (about):
> AT&T-NorthPoint To Curtail Service
>
> By BRUCE MEYERSON
> AP Business Writer
> NEW YORK (AP) via NewsEdge Corporation -
> Public Access Networks Corp., a New York-based Internet services
> provider also known as Panix, [...]
Now there's a name I haven't heard i
David:
No kidding. That one came out of my WayBack machine...
-Scott
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Scott C. Best wrote (about):
>
> > AT&T-NorthPoint To Curtail Service
> >
> > By BRUCE MEYERSON
> > AP Business Writer
> > NEW YORK (AP) via NewsEdge Corporation -
>
> >
It was about time - the current version bears little resemblence to the
original December 2000 anyway...
The changes since the last update include:
* More packages on the base disk - meaning root.lrp is smaller (200k!)
and the system is more configurable
* Lots of bugs fixed
* Network scripts ov
At 08:55 PM 09/21/2000 GMT, Matthew Grant wrote
>Dear All,
>
>There are a number of factors influencing this decision, the most
>important of which are:
>
>1) Debian will ceas doing security updates for their Slink distribution
>at the end of October. LRP Eiger is heavily based on this.
>
>2) T
appears that there is an actual /dev/console device; it seems to
parallel the /dev/tty device (device 5,0) - /dev/console is
device 5,1.
This appears to be a bug to me - or at least, a missed feature. This
would probably be present in LRP and EigerStein; I know Oxygen is
this way. I'll be fi
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> Matthew Schalit wrote:
>
> > I tried this on the Oxygen machine in my own test script and
> > it works my way but fails David's way. Set -x didn't show
> > any difference in the command that was to be run.
>
> I wonder if it could be a problem in splitting of argum
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, George Metz wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > (auto-configuring PCMCIA modems on modern hardware excepted). I'm
> > getting close though -- hardware is good, chat script is munged.
> > Whatever.
>
> It's always something, ain't it? =) Keep me posted on t
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> Matthew Schalit wrote:
> > $ ifconfig eth0 63.194.213.179 netmask 255.255.255.0
> >
> > The output shows the correct IP and correct MASK, but the
> > BROADCAST was unchanged and still reads 63.255.255.255.0
>
> This is MOST interesting. I'll put in support for IF#_
I didn't check the listed ftp sites.
Here is the original site I listed
FTP://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/mirror/linux/debian-cd/2.1_r4/i386
Sourceforge dos have the potato ISOs. Maybe they would host the slink ISOs
http://download.sourceforge.net/mirrors/iso/debian/
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-b, --bidirectional
Bidirectional mode. The rule will match with IP
packets in both directions; this has the same
effect as repeating the rule with the source & des
tination reversed.
Does this do what you want?
>All this
Matthew Schalit wrote:
>
> David Douthitt wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Schalit wrote:
> > I wonder if it could be a problem in splitting of arguments?
> > Perhaps
>
> I have a feeling that it's either a parsing/IFS issue, or
> more likely it's some hard coded issue with the
> ${foo:+bar} format.
Smalltalk and Perl collide nicely :-) I've stopped using Perl for
most things.
A bit of Ruby/Python trivia: Ruby users outnumber Python users in
Japan, Ruby's originating country. Curious: isn't Python originating
from Italy?
> You get a little security by obscurity maybe (and we know w
> Examples of suitable formats for Transparent copies include plain
> ASCII without markup, Texinfo input format, LaTeX input format, SGML
> or XML using a publicly available DTD, and standard-conforming simple
> HTML designed for human modification. Opaque formats include
> PostScript, PDF, propr
a "Transparent" format, that is, a format which can be read by any
number of publicly available copy-lefted tools, rather than forcing
us to use a proprietary tool - and also, it wants us to use an "open"
format, which isn't controlled by corporate interests.
> Usual formats are: sgml/xml (Doc
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> Matthew Schalit wrote:
> > I'm afraid Oxygen 3/14 is a bit too buggy. I await the
> > next version with renewed interest, though.
>
> I'm not sure what you base that on, but the only specified bug here is
> that more segfaults. This appears to have gone away in the
David Douthitt, 2001-03-26 15:20 -0600
>It was about time - the current version bears little resemblence to the
>original December 2000 anyway...
>
>The changes since the last update include:
David,
Congratulations! I released the image in the Files area, and changed the
article to point to the
difference between page-swapping and disk-caching -- my bad terminology.
Anyway looks like there's no problem.
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Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner!
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, David Douthitt wrote:
> Jack Coates wrote:
>
> > This got me thinking -- does LRP have a disk cache? And if s
David Douthitt, 2001-03-26 17:19 -0600
>Where would be a good place for a "data" ISO image? I've an image I'm
>tempted to put up, but the boot image does not work correctly. It has a
>(semiold) image of Charles' website I think, and a portion of Rick's.
>It also has all the patches, kernels, and
Oh look, I jumped to conclusion without fully examining my data.
Please ignore my babbling on the email bounce. It didn't happen. I'm going
back to my own little world now. :)
-sp
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go here:
http://acs40.arsdigita.com/doc/docbook-primer.html
nice and clean overview using small words for the most part.
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> -Original Message-
I thought IDS was the first ISP selling internet access to the
general public. Maybe it was just the first in Rhode Island..
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 03:14:51PM -0800, Mark Seiden scribbled:
> of course, this depends how you define ISP.
>
> world.std.com was first, as i remember.
> panix was pret
> > $ scp filename \
> >
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/groups/ftp/pub/leaf/oxygen/packages
> >
> > I'd setup an alias to do this.
>
> I'll do that, thanks!
>
> Where would be a good place for a "data" ISO image? I've an image I'm
> tempted to put up, but the boot image does not work correctly. It has
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:19:58PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled:
> Where would be a good place for a "data" ISO image? I've an image I'm
> tempted to put up, but the boot image does not work correctly. It has a
> (semiold) image of Charles' website I think, and a portion of Rick's.
> It also
TOTALLY broken, this shouldn't be relevant. If you specify the IP address
only, it will supply netmask and broadcast/network addresses based on a
classful setup - that's pretty much what everything defaults to because
there HAS to be a default. If you specify the netmask and the IP address,
it wil
i'm still confused about why seg faults are not dropping
corefiles.
there's no ulimit in /etc/profile or in a .profile or a .bashrc.
ulimit says "unlimited". setting it explicitly (ulimit -c 0)
has no effect either.
busybox init has a special feature to drop core files when there's
a speciall
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> I'd release ISO images on the SF Primary FTP site, which AFAIK is the only
> place we have access to that would be able to handle the size & bandwidth
> requirements of downloaing fairly large ISO images.
Agreed. I have yet to decide if the serv
David Douthitt wrote:
>
> Matthew Schalit wrote:
> > I'm asking, and I'll give it a try. I'm a bit newish
> > to gdb, but I know enough to load a core and do a backtrace
> > and such.
>
> Thanks very much. The "Developer's Disk" I think is available for
> download; it includes at least the f
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:18:31PM -0800, Matthew Schalit wrote:
> David Douthitt wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Schalit wrote:
>
>
> > > I'm asking, and I'll give it a try. I'm a bit newish
> > > to gdb, but I know enough to load a core and do a backtrace
> > > and such.
i could use it too...
> >
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