Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Humphries
The fact all libdems are for it should tell you more. Here is my view on it all; 1. It is more complicated, therefore will be more expensive to administer. Government already costs too much. 2. It is more representative as the winner would need 50% of the vote. Total bollocks. Consider this

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Cundell
On 29 Apr 2011, at 08:12, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: The fact all libdems are for it should tell you more. In your words - bollox - it's cross party in both camps Here is my view on it all; 1. It is more complicated, therefore will be more expensive to

[LU] Sounds like…

2011-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
“The best teams in the world have the best players but they also have players who are mentally strong, who know how to win games and who learn from past experiences. “We’ve got a group with an average age of 25 and it might be that we need to add a bit of experience to that. It might help the

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
snip I don't want my MP spending half his term going round trying to woo concessions out of voters, I want them to be representing me in parliament. snip But in the current system your MP does not represent you, even if you voted for him/her. The MP represents and, unless he/she is an

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Jim Moran
Also, relies on everyone actually giving a second preference. If you don't want the Lib Dem candidate then don't give a 2nd preference. On 29 April 2011 09:22, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I think your point about the Lib Dem who wins on 2% of the vote raises an interesting

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
And there, in a nutshell is the best argument for AV - you are NOT forced to offer a second option if you don't want to. However, if your constituency has as one of the candidates, Nick Griffin, then you may wish to rank the rest in the order of your choice, playing the anyone but him game

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Tim Leslie
Only true democratic vote for me in a NATIONAL election is to get rid of all this Leeds Central, Leeds West constituency nonesense and have a straight vote for legitimate parties (would need some sensible guidelines in place fir that bit) then have a true one man one vote open election.

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-29 Thread Richard Walker
Absolutely Jim. Fuck em all Fuck em all The long and the short and the tall..,,. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Apr 2011, at 23:07, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote: I hate everyone but Leeds. Never understood this Oh, I admire X or I like Y nonsense.

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Ken Bates there? Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Robert Heath rhe...@mis-munich.de wrote: I note that the Chief Parasite is wearing yellow with a blue rug to keep her precious knees warm.

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
How disgracefully rude. Fine, if you don't like or approve of the Royal family, you have every right to think so, but to use expressions like that is out of order on a day when those of us who don't think as you do are enjoying the occasion. _ From: Robert Heath

Re: [LU] RM vs FCB

2011-04-29 Thread DAVID NATTAN
Exactly my view on thngs too Jim, with the second group by far the biggest. Our  Division play offs/promotion is really bad to decide in terms of who I want to go up (assuming that we have no real chance)   QPR - prob 3 (up anyway) Norwich - prob 3, with a bit of 2 Millwall -big time 2 Cardiff-

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
I'm trying to work out what your angle is given you've picked just about the one issue that has always (post-war) been a free vote :0 Damian On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: ... So, if for instance the voters of Leeds were deeply in support of

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
And I thought that Bagehot was incapable of spinning anymore in his grave ;) What's wrong with getting rid of the partys instead as we live in a post-ideologic world nowadays (don't we? ) Damian This is a local representative for local people ;) On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Tim Leslie

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
I think that living in Munchen Rob probably just doesn't like Germans very much. Damian On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: How disgracefully rude. Fine, if you don't like or approve of the Royal family, you have every right to think so, but to use

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Looked up Bagehot in wiki. I still don't follow your Bon mot. As this is a rivetingly boring day ( sat with a dozing nigh on ninety Year old mother watching the wedding. For this I came to the UK ?) please be kind and explain yourself. Anything to stop me from topping myself in despair.

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
Yeah I realised that after I wrote it, but too late then... The point is the same though -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: 29 April 2011 12:58 To: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] non LU AV I'm trying

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
To try and tie the thread back together again - given that our politics have followed a traditional Buck house govt. v Carlton house opposition since the Hannovarians took us over (Symbiosis or Parasitism depending on yr POV ;)) are we entering into a world analogous to the dotage of Georg III

[LU] From today's Gruniad

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
Leeds United v Barcelona (1975)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOgh3YK1fyQ The season of 1974-75 was the swansong for Don Revie's superlative Leeds United side. Revie had gone, of course, taking the England job in the summer after guiding his boys to their second league title, but the team was

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Robert Heath
If I were to tell you what I really think about those people...that would be rude. _ From: Steve Gillen [mailto:steve.gil...@ntlworld.com] To: 'Robert Heath' [mailto:rhe...@mis-munich.de], 'Jim Moran' [mailto:j...@jimmoran.co.uk], e...@morrish.org Cc: 'leedslist'

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Ian Murray
Not disgraceful at all. Parasite is the kindest word I can think of to describe for them. We need constitutional protection from Parliament, proper democracy, an elected head of state and for these born to rule toffs to get jobs. Up the Republic. I Sent from my iPhone On 29 Apr 2011, at

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Ian Murray
Not disgraceful at all. Parasite is the kindest word I can think of to describe for that set of fucking thieves. We need constitutional protection from Parliament, proper democracy, an elected head of state and for these born to rule toffs to get jobs. Up the Republic. I Sent from my iPhone

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Ian Murray
Ps tried to cancel and tone it down a bit but didn't work, clearly. Sorry for anyone whose filter picked up the deletive expletive. Hope you're enjoying the sandwiches Steve. :) Sent from my iPhone On 29 Apr 2011, at 11:42, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com wrote: How disgracefully

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread barbaraville
On 28/04/2011 23:25, Damian Walsh wrote: I know that the list was neutered a long time ago Opre Roma! I say! Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Politics for all or none. From recent events we have seen that for all is a non starter. So my vote is for none. In short let's stick to football. Michael Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On Apr 29, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
Didn't have any sandwiches thank you, but I'll just leave all you non Royalists (republicans?) with one thought... If we do away with the royal family would you be happy with us then becoming just another ordinary country like France for instance? And think on this, it would leave the Prime

Re: [LU] non LU AV

2011-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
What the f... Do explain. Please. Opre Roma as a non-governmental organization was set up by the Roma (Gypsy) residents of the Domokos Marton Kert settlement in Debrecen (eastern Hungary) The NGO aims at the improvement of the health and life of its members and Roma people in general.

[LU] Fwd: Re: Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
I stick with the Queen - generally on first class post - I think its Wallace Gromit on the second class these days (any one remember letters?)    Tourists don't come to see the queen or any of that crowd - they wouldn't sully themselves - they come to see the castles, the towers, the palaces

[LU] Save Fan Culture! FSE Stadium Action Days to kick off this weekend

2011-04-29 Thread Rick Duniec
From: Football Supporters Europe Save Fan Culture! FSE Stadium Action Days 29 April – 16 May 2011 Excessive and disproportionate use of force, unjust arrests, banned flags or banners for no transparent reason, arbitrary stadium ban procedures and worst of all, punishment of entire sets of fans

Re: [LU] Fwd: Re: Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread David Bromley
Of course it's why they come to the UK. Why else would anyone from the UK go on holiday to Spain if it wasn't in the hope of a glimpse of the Spanish Royals. - Original Message - From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: [LU]

Re: [LU] Fwd: Re: Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Tuffey
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:21:21 +0100 From: n...@6haroldplace.co.uk Tourists don't come to see the queen or any of that crowd - they wouldn't sully themselves - they come to see the castles, the towers, the palaces and gardens etc. We have a rich and fascinating history. To take your example

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Richard Walker
Come on Steve , don't get ruffled by Mr Heath- he left our great country years ago and now lives in the 3rd world somewhere. I'm no fan of the Royals but bloody he'll it was good to see that we can put on an occasion like today. Absolutely bloody marvellous and makes us the envy of the world

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Damian Walsh
Je suis mortellement offendé par ce slur sur la Patrie - qui, d'ailleur a fourni la Royauté de l'Angleterre pendent 750 ans avant ces Boches actuelles ont pris le relai. Ca demande une rencontre Monsieur! Par tradition soit Marble Arch à Londres soit les Champs de Mars à Paris. A vous a decidé

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Jeremy Adams
Six heures lundi matin aux pistolets! Pistolets? Why not a proper bloody pistol Walsh instead of a girly one! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
Aye, righto old love, ths's on -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: 29 April 2011 19:07 To: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Je suis mortellement offendé par ce slur sur la Patrie - qui,

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-04-29 Thread Steve Gillen
Excellent reply Richard - I thank you for it -Original Message- From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 29 April 2011 18:52 To: Robert Heath Cc: Steve Gillen; Jim Moran; e...@morrish.org; leedslist; Simon Hart Subject: Re: [LU] Good omen? Come on Steve , don't get

[LU] Non-LU - Royals

2011-04-29 Thread John Sykes
Being a staunch Royals supporter in a country Canada, which is split down the middle as to going Republic...and also being so close to the U.S., I can safely say, the Americans adore everything Royals.hence the U.S. TV coverage of today's wedding. If you don't like them, there's no need to