Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Boring Legal guff was Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Constitutions protect lawyers and politicians. Common sense protects us all. Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On May 4, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Simon Austin simon...@auzsoft.net wrote: On 03/05/2011 23:05, Ian Murray wrote: We need a constitution that protects

Re: [LU] F**k me we now have a 'new' owner

2011-05-04 Thread Andy Clayton
Perhaps he spoke to Patrick Murrin or Peter Boatman? Or perhaps he's senile as suspected and talked to himself. On 3 May 2011, at 19:12, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote: I think that Ken deserves the Sherlock Holmes award for managing to track down the owners (he didn't know who they

Re: [LU] QPR

2011-05-04 Thread Lee Jones
And Luton were docked 10 points for paying money to an unlicensed agent... There's a lot of precedent and reports are that the FA have already contacted clubs in and around the playoffs should a points deduction mean the playof dates change (no idea why they would change though?) On 04/05/2011,

[LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Cool, so you are all for the coalition in their attempts to reduce the structural deficit asap I take it? Just curious like -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 03 May 2011 22:52 To: Joe Skinner Cc:

Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Boring Legal guff was Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
But who else will polish the silver in this republican utopia.. duh! :-) -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Simon Austin Sent: 04 May 2011 00:48 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Boring Legal guff was

Re: [LU] QPR

2011-05-04 Thread Jim Moran
Playoff dates will change as there will be a legal challenge from QPR if they are docked enough points to put them in the playoffs (or worse) rather than automatic promotion. On 4 May 2011 07:40, Lee Jones em...@leedjones.co.uk wrote: And Luton were docked 10 points for paying money to an

Re: [LU] taking the devil's shilling (was Archive time: The Leeds List Glossary)

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Heath
And is it only Scum sponsors that cause us to think that way? What about companies who sponsor Spurs, Liverpool, Sheffield United etc. Since Northern Rock is owned by the government and they sponsor Newcastle, I have stopped paying any British income tax. (I am not sure the campaign has

Re: [LU] taking the devil's shilling (was Archive time: The Leeds ListGlossary)

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Heath
It is well known hereabouts of my one man campaign to stop the life of the mirror. Like the US searching for Osama, I will persevere and get there in the end. Good on yer Steve. I love one-man boycott campaigns. A long time ago, my wife went into the bakery in our village (Robin Hood's

Re: [LU] QPR

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Do we really think that the league will do anything other than fudge it? Can anyone realistically conceive of a situation whereby Leeds United will benefit from anything? They'll probably find some way of docking us 5 points! Sent from my iPhone On 4 May 2011, at 08:20, Jim Moran

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
No because I don't think that the coalitions's plans are economically sound, like. They are ideologically driven, like, and have stifled the recovery to the extent that net growth in our economy over the last 6 months has been 0.0%. Deficit reduction is one thing, slash and burn quite another.

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
And Labour's plan to reduce the deficit wouldn't be called slash and burn? How different was their plan? But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. One could argue that Labours idea to delay the slash and burn by 1 year

[LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
Hi, any of the diaspora managed to get iplayer and bbc services abroad - if so any simple instructions appreciated - my bro has finally been connected to t'internet (merci mr sarkozy) and has 6 years of TV to catch up on. ttfn Richard ___ Leedslist

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. SNIP only difference was the timing of and depth of the initial cuts. trouble is the major cuts aren't really major - despite the real pain that will be caused to many

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Heath
Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to the original issue. I understood that the good old generous Royals footed the bill for the so-called wedding, and all the rest of us had to do was stump up the paltry 20 million quid for

[LU] Why now ?

2011-05-04 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - This begs the question as to why Ken has chosen right now, this week, to make clear the ownership of LUFC. Why else would Ken rock a boat that did not need to be rocked? http://lufctrust.squarespace.com/ This explains the various aspects of the situation and

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
Well the 'prancing around on horses' bit is pretty self explanatory as they are called the Household Cavalry. As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us

Re: [LU] Why now ?

2011-05-04 Thread Peter Cass
Does the question Why now? really matter? The answer is the info you/we/they wanted to know. We now know the answer (I think) Like the South Park policeman Move along now, nothing to see PC2 - Original Message - From: Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com To: Leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent:

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Peter Cass
Because we're British Because we've been doing it for the last 4 or 500 years (RAF flyovers notwithstanding) Because we can Because nobody does it better I enjoyed it - Original Message - From: Robert Heath rhe...@mis-munich.de To: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk;

Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Briggs
My father-in-law or this geezer I once overheard in a pub (dependant upon whether Ed has pressed the delete button) lives in the charente maritime and has tried numerous proxies and either hasn't got them to work or they have been shut down sharpish. The are some vpn services that give you a

Re: [LU] QPR

2011-05-04 Thread MarkBursa
Do we really think that the league will do anything other than fudge it? Can anyone realistically conceive of a situation whereby Leeds United will benefit from anything? They'll probably find some way of docking us 5 points! True, but remember that the only person who gets shat on

Re: [LU] Why now ?

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Briggs
Personally, I think he has done it because of the QPR situation. Bates ownership suddenly gives the club some moral high ground He might see that there is a chance, albeit slim, that we could overtake Forrest on goal difference and get into the play-offs. Couple this with the likely points

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread MarkBursa
As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us ala 1941 We are still very much being defended by Typhoons! It's what the RAF calls a

[LU] Election Thursday - dont forget to vote

2011-05-04 Thread DAVID DOWDEN
Just a reminder you have the opportunity to vote for or against the present general election voting system.(and for your local council ward members ) No point moaning on result if you don't actually vote. Also QPR -, whats the voting odds on on number of points deducted? . or could just be

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store and clearing out loads of rubbish. As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires,

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Sean Emmott
On 04/05/2011 11:50, Tim Leslie wrote: PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store Didn't work though did it? They still found him. ___ Leedslist

Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Boring Legal guff was Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Afaik there was a bit if a row in the 1860s about slavery. Dunno, mebbes google will help? Sent from my iPhone On 4 May 2011, at 07:51, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: But who else will polish the silver in this republican utopia.. duh! :-) -Original

Re: [LU] Election Thursday - dont forget to vote

2011-05-04 Thread Simon Hart
If it's true that this guy has played over 80 times whilst QPR knew he was ineligible then nothing short of relegation will be enough. All the reports say QPR are bang to rights, so any punishment that leaves them with a chance of going up will be a cop out. All IMHO of course. Si. DAVID

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Reduce the deficit, not fill it. And as I'm sure you know, the structural deficit is not the same thing as the national debt, which is fast approaching a TRILLION pounds. In that context 1 extra bank holiday every 30 years is pissing in the wind. If only Labour had read all of John Keynes

Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Nicholas Armit
me too works well From: Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com To: 'Richard Naef' rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS I have used ExpatShield and it seems to

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Would have been an interesting dogfight to watch from the fens though, a typhoon vs a bf109 -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of markbu...@aol.com Sent: 04 May 2011 13:55 To: t...@3leafieldvillas.co.uk;

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread matt
Hmm what evidence have you got that they spent any money ever or came for the wedding. Don't all tourists go to france instead because paris is warmer? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk Sender:

Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Nicholas Armit
If you want to watch the UK channels live I have found this site works well (have watched a couple of Leeds games on it). Is not for BBC iPlayer though. http://fbhost-tv.fr/ From: Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk To: Richard Naef

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store Didn't work though did it? They still found him. Or did they? :-) Conspiracy theories rool! Quick thread; most plausable conspiracy theory ever?

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Sent from my iPhone On 4 May 2011, at 14:23, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Reduce the deficit, not fill it. Semantics, pedantics. And as I'm sure you know, the structural deficit is not the same thing as the national debt, which is fast approaching a TRILLION

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Christ Having just run the most dull thread known to mankind I have a good mind to answer about OBL. But not wanting to set the list on fire ( anyone wants a rant then off line), I won't . Suffice to say that my opinion of spin meisters and politicians has sunk even lower. More off line.

Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin
Did you make those acronyms up? Sent from my iPad Dr. Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatrist On May 4, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: My father-in-law or this geezer I once overheard in a pub (dependant upon whether Ed has pressed the delete button) lives in

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Simon Hart
Bates has just bought LUFC off himself! He also owns Elland Road and Thorpe Arch! :-O Another conspiracy theory, or is it? Stranger things have happened. Quick thread; most plausable conspiracy theory ever? I'll start with us avoliding promotion against Watford because it would have

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
I can see this is all upsetting you, so I will just say it doesn't matter what the tories (or libdems) thought about the deregulation of the financial services sector, Labour did the deed, no one else. I also don't remember reading any other chancellor in the developed world claiming

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Briggs
or Bin Laden was the custodian of Leeds and agreed to pass it on to Bates in the event of his death. It would explain why Bates did not know where the owners of Leeds were all this time. On 2011-05-04 16:12:05 + Simon Hart simon.h...@york.ac.uk wrote: Bates has

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Wasnt Bin Laden a Gooner? Seem to remember them banning him from Highbury after September 11. Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:24:38 +0100 From: c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk To: simon.h...@york.ac.uk CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories or Bin Laden was the

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Briggs
Nah, he was Leeds through and through, just check out the colour of his outfits, based on Leeds home strip circa 1972. You are confusing him with Robert Mugabe, he was a gooner and got banned due to baring his arse from the directors box window. On 2011-05-04 16:26:55

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Of course we would. Pity you couldn’t lend Tony and Gordon your crystal ball though, would have prevented the tories getting in again wouldn’t it. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 15:55 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Robert Heath;

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Whereas obviously you're seeing all this through the retrospectoscope. Hindsight makes prophets of us all. The investment in all public services was needed after 18 years of Tory rule. Many mistakes were made but a vast improvement was seen, most obviously in the NHS. And, forgive me for

[LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really

2011-05-04 Thread Brian
I just don't understand how we are taking it up the arse by having a monarchy? Well, having read a defence of the monarchy on the grounds that it's claimed to make us money, I was merely intrigued to know what else the citizens of Britain should be willing to accept *just so long as it brings

[LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really

2011-05-04 Thread Bri
I just don't understand how we are taking it up the arse by having a monarchy? Well, having read a defence of the monarchy on the grounds that it's claimed to make us money, I was merely intrigued to know what else the citizens of Britain should be willing to accept *just so long as it brings

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
They may do, but has one ever blown up in someones face so dramatically? I mean, Gordy was the self styled economic genius of his generation, so he told us. But the thing that I really don't get is how so soon after this happened, Milliband is trying to now pretend we don't need slash and burn

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread barbaraville
On 04/05/2011 14:23, Mark Humphries wrote: Either way you look at it, it is Blair/Brown/Darling to blame, not Cameron, not Clegg, not FPTP, not the Queen and not Ken Bates. And just how do you know it's not Ken Bates, Mark? Whio knows what shit the old beardy bastard is dreaming up with his

Re: [LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
Well said that man. From: b1...@yorkietalkie.plus.com To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:06:58 +0100 Subject: [LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really I just don't understand how we are taking it up the arse by having a monarchy? Well, having read a defence of the

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good conspiracy theories

2011-05-04 Thread barbaraville
On 04/05/2011 17:24, Chris Briggs wrote: or Bin Laden was the custodian of Leeds and agreed to pass it on to Bates in the event of his death. It would explain why Bates did not know where the owners of Leeds were all this time. Posting iof the day: accurate believable and 100% more fun than

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
The benefit of the retrospectoscope is that it's based on cold hard facts, not mystical powers. Like the assumption Major wouldn't have invested in public services with the economic boom just round the corner, no, he would have abolished the top rate tax band, or set up nurse/teacher/policeman

Re: [LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
My view is that we'd have the same disparity in a republic. How do US earnings compare? Or French? Or Cuban (government official vs prole)? -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: 04 May 2011 16:07 To:

Re: [LU] Non-LU: More farce than arse, really

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
And for heaven's sake, PLEASE don't come out with the line that this is about envy. It's about wanting a little more *fairness*. Take a look at the diagram at the end of this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11942117 Ignore Frank Lampard and Tiger Woods, just gawp in awe at the

Re: [LU] NONLU - Ed Morrish DO NOT READ THIS

2011-05-04 Thread Guy Bonello
www.filmon.com with free BBC1 , ITV1 and Channel 4. all other channels are about £15 a month. Best option though is to get hold of a Dreambox and sat dish. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com To: Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk; Richard Naef

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
I'm starting to lose the will to live here. The Tory 1997 manifesto talks largely about tax cuts and, euphemistically, benefit reform. It does not mention failing public services and a plan to increase investment therein. I suppose the manifesto is the best we have to go on as far as 'cold

Re: [LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Damian Walsh
Don't worry about anti-lawyer abuse on this list. I think you'll find that we're all very pro lawyer-abuse here! Damian ;) On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: *braces self for anti-lawyer abuse* ___

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Damian Walsh
Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). Today's problem with Final Salary Pensions is the funding. Public Service pensions are unfunded with the govt making guarantees out