[LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
Nowt else. Sent from my iPhone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Peter Castlehouse
oh fuck, that's all I have to say about that... and how come a verdict has been passed down so early in the morning? Forrest Gump -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Chris Briggs Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2014 7:34 PM

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Peter Castlehouse
Your source please? Or is this just your opinion? Pete C -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Chris Briggs Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2014 7:34 PM To: Leeds United E-Mail List Subject: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty Nowt

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 08:43, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote: Your source please? Or is this just your opinion? Pete C -Original Message- From:

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 08:43, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote: Your source please? Or is this just your opinion? Pete C -Original Message- From:

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
Why does it always happen to us? On 18 March 2014 19:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian Sport, Andrew Haigh, etc. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 08:43, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote: Your source

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
I'm guessing that Plan B contains the word 'fuckfuckbuggershitcock' On 18 Mar 2014, at 09:10, Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com wrote: Why does it always happen to us? On 18 March 2014 19:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: It's all over T'witter, sources include Guardian

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Walker
It's sort of expected really. I'm looking forward to the local derby against Garforth Town after we have imploded. On 18 Mar 2014, at 09:16, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I'm guessing that Plan B contains the word 'fuckfuckbuggershitcock' On 18 Mar 2014, at 09:10, Alec

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread John Boocock
On 18/03/2014 09:46, Alec McQueen wrote: GFH have just lost the $20m odd they originally bought the club for. What the fck was their plan? They either saw that we were losing a million a month, and had a plan to address or fund it, OR they have caused us to be losing a million a month. A

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Peter Castlehouse
I think we are all having kittens prematurely. The Cellino trial process starts today, it's by far not the 'black-cap, hanging judge' sentencing day... And, if it's destined to go longer than ten days, then the FL should have announced their decision by then Pete C -Original Message-

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
betty Having had a stomach full of literally incompetent owners over the last 20 years, I would LOVE to see LUST leading a takeover of the ashes and bringing LUFC into true large scale fan ownership of the club. Right now I can see no way of getting Leeds into its rightful place without some

Re: [LU] First time up!

2014-03-18 Thread Nigel Barber
Like. On 18 March 2014 10:37, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.ukwrote: Brilliant news Paula, thanks from everyone on the Leeds List for keeping us updated - we are all rooting for him! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread nat...@sky.com
does anyone really think that LUST (or any supporters group) will be able to raise the funds? How many fans will actually be willing to put any money in ? We have less than 10,000 fans willing to pay £400+ which lets them watch the match for free so how many will pay that sort of money for a few

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
eh? Isn't it all done and duisted? From BBC: 09:29 Massimo Cellino's takeover of Leeds United may be in doubthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26627183 after an Italian court found him guilty of failing to payhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/live/26353529# import duty on his yacht. The

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
Fck says it all Leeds are currently 14th in the table and have lost their last four games On 18 March 2014 21:47, Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com wrote: eh? Isn't it all done and duisted? From BBC: 09:29 Massimo Cellino's takeover of Leeds United may be in

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread David Brennan
It's bollocks. He's been found guilty of not paying the import tax on a yacht. Does this mean he's not a fit and proper person? Course it fucking doesn't. All fat cat business men and rich folks go out of the their way to avoid all possible tax payments they can. If people who did that

[LU] LU on a more positive note

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
Anyone else REALLY enjoying manures utter discomfort? -- Alec McQueen 0418 328967 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Ian Murray
Football isn't just another business though is it. I know I wouldn't be allowed to practise if Id done this. Fuck him. We'll be alright - someone will buy us out of admin and it'll be fine. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 18:55, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: It's

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Peter Castlehouse
Thanks Alec, I stand corrected J - BUT Is failing to pay import duty really a ‘crime’ that would make him ineligible of meeting the rules? It’s a bloody civil conviction after all, not a criminal conviction. A civil conviction didn’t stop my emigration process back in ’89, whereas a criminal

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Naef
We'll be alright - someone will buy us out of admin and it'll be fine. yea cos that worked out really well last time ;) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
Pete Can't agree more, and was exactly what I was thinking. However, do we have clear and unambiguous open rules in the fppt? Or is it more of an old boys network check? Methinks it could be more of the latter than the former, and open to all sorts of legal challenges once they decline the Big

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread David Brennan
I don't know what you practice Ian, sounds like you work in an honourable trade, but do you think a bit of tax dodging should stop Cellino? I'm not in any way condoning tax dodging, but football is full of people with drawers full of cash in brown paper bags, and dodgy deals done all over the

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Alec McQueen
Do you really need an answer to that? Cheers Alec On 18/03/2014, at 10:19 PM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: I don't know what you practice Ian, sounds like you work in an honourable trade, but do you think a bit of tax dodging should stop Cellino? I'm not in any way

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Peter Castlehouse
lmfao to Alec's comment -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Alec McQueen Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2014 10:23 PM To: David Brennan Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen) Do you

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - If the football league block it it's cause they want to fuck us over. If it happens then that certainly will not be the reason ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
Is it a civil matter in Italy though, here in the UK it can be both. Generally if you agree that there are 'irregularities' with your return then HMRC are more likely to consider Civil proceedings (but could make it criminal if they wanted) but if you deny any irregularities then they will go

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - We'll be alright - someone will buy us out of admin and it'll be fine. yea cos that worked out really well last time ;) Yes, but as we all know, what happened last time was that Bates PREVENTED anyone else buying us out of administration. If only, Eh ?

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread David Brennan
I think there may be many people out there Rick who believe that the authorities might treat us differently to how they treat other clubs. I know we've got a chip on our shoulder, but there are many occurrences where we have been dealt with unfairly/harshly, going right back to the early 70s,

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
Knowing our luck the old bugger would buy us back after admin. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 11:58, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote: - Original Message - We'll be alright - someone will buy us out of admin and it'll be fine. yea cos that worked out really well

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - I think there may be many people out there Rick who believe that the authorities might treat us differently to how they treat other clubs. I know we've got a chip on our shoulder, but there are many occurrences where we have been dealt with unfairly/harshly, going

Re: [LU] First time up!

2014-03-18 Thread Grant Reid
Thats fantastic news Paula. Wishing you both strength On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Robinson, Mick mick.robin...@miq.comwrote: Looking good, best wishes -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Paula Gillen

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty (Alec McQueen)

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - I think there may be many people out there Rick who believe that the authorities might treat us differently to how they treat other clubs. I know we've got a chip on our shoulder, but there are many occurrences where we have been dealt with unfairly/harshly, going

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread John Boocock
On 18/03/2014 10:42, nat...@sky.com wrote: To raise £20million would mean 25.000 fans paying £800 each - not going to happen in my view I'm not suggesting that Dave, I'm suggesting that the fans put their collective financial muscle (at whatever is the achievable level) together in

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Ian Murray
It's a dishonesty offence mate, and it is criminal as far as I know? Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 19:02, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au wrote: Thanks Alec, I stand corrected J - BUT Is failing to pay import duty really a ‘crime’ that would make him ineligible of

[LU] FL statement re Cellino conviction

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Naef
The statement from the Football League reads: http://www.football-league.co.uk/footballleaguenews/20140318/football-leagu e-statement-leeds-united_2293334_3719289 A Football League spokesman said: The Football League has noted the outcome of the Court hearing earlier today regarding Massimo

Re: [LU] First time up!

2014-03-18 Thread AVince
Great news On 3/17/2014 5:08 PM, Paula Gillen wrote: Out of bed for the first time in 34 days! Took a hoist to get him there but it was well worth the trip. He was very tired when he go back into bed after sitting there for 40 minutes! Limbs are still not up to scratch but they will get there!

Re: [LU] First time up!

2014-03-18 Thread Nicholas Armit
Great news Paula. Just don't tell Steve about Cellino. From: Grant Reid grantreid.syb...@gmail.com To: Paula Gillen pgil...@ntlworld.com; Leeds (The List) leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [LU] First time up! Thats

[LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread john
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/18/leeds-united-five-key-questions-massimo-cellino?CMP=twt_gu Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread Jeremy Adams
Doesn't bode well David Conn knows his stuff. So now who funds the 1 million a month deficit? Jeremy http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/18/leeds-united-five-key-questions-massimo-cellino?CMP=twt_gu Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
I presume that GFH would given that they are the owners. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 14:36, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't bode well David Conn knows his stuff. So now who funds the 1 million a month deficit? Jeremy

Re: [LU] First time up!

2014-03-18 Thread Guy Thornton
Very good news indeed Paula, good news for both of you. Been reading your mails and the story of the hospital food really sounded bad. Then I heard the latest Food Programme on Radio 4 which was on hospital food and realized, yes, it is bad but it's also pretty normal standard wise. Not good

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread Jeremy Adams
I would hope so too, the administration route would lose them far more than funding the club until a new owner takes it on wouldn't it? Best, Jeremy From: c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:40:02 + To: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com CC:

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Matt Anderson
I'm not a legal person but if he has been fined and pays isn't it a spent conviction? Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 18:32, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote: NB Cellino's brief is called Professor Cocco. Enough I say! Leeds United: Confusion continues after Cellino found

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
No It's a fine paid. I think it's 5 years for fines. - Original Message - From: Matt Anderson To: John Boocock Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [LU] YEP LATEST I'm not a legal person but if he has been fined and pays isn't it a

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Nicholas Armit
But is it even possible to equate UK law with Italian law? Maybe they don't even relate or does it not matter? From: Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com To: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net; John Boocock j...@boocock.net Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Joe Skinner
Not to piss on anyone's chips but I thought that Bates, like Risdsale before him, had effectively hocked the ST money in advance for cash? I may have dreamt it (it is one big nightmare after all) Unless you mean literally doing the below? Or as Glasgow Rangers fans are suggesting putting

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
It used to be 5 years for a fine under Rehab. Of Offenders Act but the LASPO Act in 2012 revised it down to 1 year from the date of conviction. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2014, at 17:45, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote: No It's a fine paid. I think it's 5 years for fines. -

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - But is it even possible to equate UK law with Italian law? Maybe they don't even relate or does it not matter? Different question to which I don't really know the answer, but Comparative Jurisprudence was obviously seen as a potential issue as it is allowed for

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - It used to be 5 years for a fine under Rehab. Of Offenders Act but the LASPO Act in 2012 revised it down to 1 year from the date of conviction. Oh, really ? Didn't know that obviously. Thanks for the well-informed update. (I hope that I won't need that knowledge

Re: [LU] YEP LATEST

2014-03-18 Thread Nicholas Armit
Interesting...so Cellino may not be done and dusted yet From: Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com To: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com; Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net; John Boocock j...@boocock.net Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014

[LU] Gary Cooper - chairman of LUST on radio 5

2014-03-18 Thread nat...@sky.com
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1i2357_lust-chairman-gary-cooper-bbc-radio-5-interview-18-03-14_sport ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Paul Cundell
On 18 Mar 2014 18:14, Joe Skinner jacksonpollocks...@hotmail.com wrote: Not to piss on anyone's chips but I thought that Bates, like Risdsale before him, had effectively hocked the ST money in advance for cash? I may have dreamt it (it is one big nightmare after all) IF we go into

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Duniec
AFAIAA the season ticket money deal done by Bates was only for the current season so the clubs cashflow for next season should drastically improve. In other words it is a bit like it was when the high pay players contracts were running down under Krasner. You have to get through the term and

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Walker
Don't worry David Haigh has assured us that we won't be going into Administration. On 18 Mar 2014, at 14:36, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't bode well David Conn knows his stuff. So now who funds the 1 million a month deficit? Jeremy

Re: [LU] David Cohn in Grauniad

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Briggs
That's about as reassuring as that momentary thought you have at the point your sphincter opens when you play 'fart or follow-through during a bout of dysentery whilst stood in a crowded lift. Sent from my iPad On 18 Mar 2014, at 19:32, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Don't

Re: [LU] Cellino Found Guilty

2014-03-18 Thread Damian Walsh
i think that any problem is more likely linked to the potential embezzlement charge he may face damian Le 18 mars 2014 12:02, Peter Castlehouse dubca...@iinet.net.au a écrit : Thanks Alec, I stand corrected J - BUT Is failing to pay import duty really a 'crime' that would make him ineligible