Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread Matt Anderson
Whoops!  

 

You have to hand it to Sky though,  how do they find such attractive women
with a great sporting knowledge!  My favourite is Hayley McQueen though
despite the fact she used to be on MUTV

 

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To: 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

 

On 25/01/2011 22:26, m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
   I too will ask her to put my hands down my trousers.

and if she does that'll be a first eh Matt? :-)

Betty
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread Matt Anderson
He is on talksport grovveling for his job now

 

 

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people with a camera in front of them talking like that - dumber than dumb.
And when did 'smashing it' become a euphemism for sex anyway?
 


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Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Date: Tuesday, 25 January, 2011, 23:53


On 25/01/2011 23:49, Eric B wrote:
   Im done with
 men thinking woman cant THINK as good as men

And it looks like Sky will be done with Richard Keys after everyone's had a
look at this tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxr79eRSbNk

Betty


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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread Wayne
I'd take offence at the term 'i'd tap that ass' unless I was a teen in a 
American tv show. Though I wouldn't see anything wrong with saying 'i'd give 
her one'  after all that's a compliment akin to, 'you look nice in that skirt'  
or  I like your hair... 


Wayne

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- Reply message -
From: Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk
Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 13:15
Subject: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
To: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org

Do you work in a TV studio where the cameras are always rolling?

On 26 January 2011 12:47, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 I'm confused. What is wrong with them saying that?  What is wrong with a 
 bloke asking another bloke if he would 'tap that ass'?  We all do it (talk 
 about it that is). I'm a happily married, faithful man, but I can look at 
 Monica Bellucci/awomanofyourliking with as much longing in my eye as the next 
 man.  I wouldn't be a man if I didn't.

 Are we saying now that blokes can't discuss the merits of a lovely lady?

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread Nigel Sykes
I feel sorry for these guys.  Whether one is personally offended by their 
choices of words or phrases or not, and no matter how stupid they were to say 
such things when microphones were around, they clearly were in an environment 
where they felt relaxed and secure.  They trusted the people around them and it 
obviously never occurred to any of them that their jobs might be at stake 
because of their casual, laddish conversations.  Non of the comments were ever 
meant to personally offend anyone.

Anyone who says that they've never said anything about anyone else that might 
offend them if they heard it - I don't believe you!

Again, these guys had mics and cameras around them, so they should perhaps have 
been more careful, but beware - we live in an age of increasing surveillance 
and everybody you meet has a video camera in their pocket.  Fancy losing your 
job because you made a comment about someone at the match last week and some 
'mate' recorded it on his phone and sent it to your boss?

What I find disturbing is the 'hive mind' that sets in whenever something like 
this happens and the knee-jerk reactions that ensue.


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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread Nigel Sykes
Well, certainly if these guys are perceived as bullies, then that's a
different issue.  There must be a reason why someone behind the scenes at
Sky decided to stitch them up like they have been, and there's nothing like
a seething feeling of resentment for that...

Nigel

-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Damian Walsh
Sent: 26 January 2011 14:25

 I have to say that this sort of summed up my attitude until about 20
minutes
 ago when I read this Gruniad article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/26/andy-gray-richard-keys-sixist
 which
 made me think differently. 

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-26 Thread David Brennan
 Message: 8
 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:28 +
 From: Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
 
 I'd take offence at the term 'i'd tap that ass' unless I was a teen in a 
 American tv
 show. Though I wouldn't see anything wrong with saying 'i'd give her one'  
 after all
 that's a compliment akin to, 'you look nice in that skirt'  or  I like your 
 hair...

It's not my fault, I've just watched too much Glee...

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[LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Errand Fivefold
Sacked.
 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3371091/Andy-Gray-sacked-over-sexism-row.html
 
 


Verner 

tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Matt Anderson
Reading between the lines he is a bit of a tw*t and they wanted rid.

 

I guess looking at what he has actually been sacked for every bloke could
have been sacked 100 timees!

 

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Sent: 25 January 2011 17:38
To: 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

 

 For a comment? He was out of order but surely a bollocking would
 suffice. Crazy!

Not just for that apparently.  They're now tarring and feathering him for
joking with a female co-presenter that she could tuck his shirt into the
front of his pants.  The video is on the Sky News website and it's a
completely jokey comment said in a 'cheeky chappy' way.  The woman in
question never bats an eyelid.

Madness.  But, its not the first time the villagers have got their pitch
forks out over something trivial is it?  Remember Rodney Marsh got sacked
for a harmless joke...

The sad thing about this is that I quite like Andy Gray's input on the
footie.  Much more than most of the eejits involved anyway...

Nigel

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Simon Hart
In this day and age both Gray  Keys should know better than to talk in a 
sexist way. What a massive pair of tits!

I'll get my coat.
Si.

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On 25 Jan 2011, at 17:38, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote:

 For a comment? He was out of order but surely a bollocking would 
 suffice. Crazy!
 
 Not just for that apparently.  They're now tarring and feathering him for
 joking with a female co-presenter that she could tuck his shirt into the
 front of his pants.  The video is on the Sky News website and it's a
 completely jokey comment said in a 'cheeky chappy' way.  The woman in
 question never bats an eyelid.
 
 Madness.  But, its not the first time the villagers have got their pitch
 forks out over something trivial is it?  Remember Rodney Marsh got sacked
 for a harmless joke...
 
 The sad thing about this is that I quite like Andy Gray's input on the
 footie.  Much more than most of the eejits involved anyway...
 
 Nigel
 
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Matt Anderson
I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of idiots but
you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging each other on.
It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside and
let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b tells you
something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.

 

It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally
disgusted by a woman lino

 

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Behalf Of Simon Hart
Sent: 25 January 2011 18:24
To: ni...@sykesonline.com
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

 

In this day and age both Gray  Keys should know better than to talk in a
sexist way. What a massive pair of tits!

I'll get my coat.
Si.

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jan 2011, at 17:38, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote:

 For a comment? He was out of order but surely a bollocking would
 suffice. Crazy!

 Not just for that apparently.  They're now tarring and feathering him for
 joking with a female co-presenter that she could tuck his shirt into the
 front of his pants.  The video is on the Sky News website and it's a
 completely jokey comment said in a 'cheeky chappy' way.  The woman in
 question never bats an eyelid.

 Madness.  But, its not the first time the villagers have got their pitch
 forks out over something trivial is it?  Remember Rodney Marsh got sacked
 for a harmless joke...

 The sad thing about this is that I quite like Andy Gray's input on the
 footie.  Much more than most of the eejits involved anyway...

 Nigel

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread sinister dexter
So it begins...

http://yfrog.com/h4yjvywj
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Brian Hamilton
On behalf of FA Match Officials everywhere I would like to thank Barney at
Sky Sports for depriving this person the media oxygen his over inflated ego
so obviously craves.

Goodbye Mr Gray.

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Sent: 25 January 2011 19:03
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.


Bollox to Andy Gray, Villa  Wolves, who's laughing now you big faced twat?

never really liked him that much.


On 25 Jan 2011, at 18:39, Matt Anderson wrote:

 I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of 
 idiots but you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging
each other on.
 It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside 
 and let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b 
 tells you something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.
 
 
 
 It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally 
 disgusted by a woman lino
 
 
 

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Ed Morrish
It's a bit odd that they've used an earlier instance of sexist
behaviour to justify his sacking, though. He was warned as to his
conduct this weekend, and then they've dug out something from before
he was warned and fired him - it's not like he could take the warning
into consideration. I'm not at all surprised to hear he's instructed
Schillings.

(Isn't he suing the News Corp-owned News of the World right now?)

On the other hand, twice he's said, What do women know about the
offside rule?. Like that's the only bit they don't get, or that it's
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in football.

Cheers,
Ed.

On 25/01/2011, Brian Hamilton br...@wandering-rogue.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 On behalf of FA Match Officials everywhere I would like to thank Barney at
 Sky Sports for depriving this person the media oxygen his over inflated ego
 so obviously craves.

 Goodbye Mr Gray.

 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
 Behalf Of sinister dexter
 Sent: 25 January 2011 19:03
 To: Matt Anderson
 Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'
 Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.


 Bollox to Andy Gray, Villa  Wolves, who's laughing now you big faced twat?

 never really liked him that much.


 On 25 Jan 2011, at 18:39, Matt Anderson wrote:

 I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of
 idiots but you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging
 each other on.
 It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside
 and let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b
 tells you something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.



 It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally
 disgusted by a woman lino




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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Steve Gillen
 

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 25 January 2011 18:40
To: 'Simon Hart'; ni...@sykesonline.com
Cc: 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of idiots but
you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging each other on.
It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside and
let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b tells you
something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.

 

Or..

A group of women start telling the rest of the group (you included) about
how men buckle under to Man Flu and women don't - (there's even a TV
advert that makes a point of it). There are loads of examples where women
treat men as the underdog and are very vocal about it - tune in to any
episode of Loose Women and what you will see and hear is mostly men being
put down for our lack of multitasking or lack of sensitivity, and thinly
veiled jokes about men's size

I have no particular love for Andy Grey, but it seems unfair to me that what
was a bit of minor piss taking between two guys off air, has cost him his
job. I agree he and Keays were stupid and they should know better and treat
ALL microphones as live, but was it really so much? Sky are using this as an
excuse to get rid I reckon.

 


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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Jim Moran
Yes, and that's why he's gone and Keys stays.

Was all a bit boring anyway. Good time for a shake up.

More interesting will be to see who of BBC, ITV and C5 snap him up
after a suitable period of forgetfulness.

On 25 January 2011 21:31, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 (Isn't he suing the News Corp-owned News of the World right now?)
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread matt
Pass on our thanks to those match officials for denying blackpool 3 points 
tonight and half handing the title to the scum


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Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:36:53 
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Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

On behalf of FA Match Officials everywhere I would like to thank Barney at
Sky Sports for depriving this person the media oxygen his over inflated ego
so obviously craves.

Goodbye Mr Gray.

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of sinister dexter
Sent: 25 January 2011 19:03
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.


Bollox to Andy Gray, Villa  Wolves, who's laughing now you big faced twat?

never really liked him that much.


On 25 Jan 2011, at 18:39, Matt Anderson wrote:

 I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of 
 idiots but you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging
each other on.
 It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside 
 and let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b 
 tells you something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.
 
 
 
 It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally 
 disgusted by a woman lino
 
 
 

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Damian Walsh
One wonders how the Daily Mail (it could only have been them) got hold
of the tape in the first place?

Damian

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote:




 I have no particular love for Andy Grey, but it seems unfair to me that
 what
 was a bit of minor piss taking between two guys off air, has cost him his
 job. I agree he and Keays were stupid and they should know better and treat
 ALL microphones as live, but was it really so much? Sky are using this as
 an
 excuse to get rid I reckon.



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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread N H
I'm sure she'll be fairly fine with that, Matt. Now her hands might be a 
different matter!





From: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
To: Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com; Simon Hart 
simon.h...@york.ac.uk; ni...@sykesonline.com
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 5:26:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

As I'm not employed by any of you nor using anything traceable to work can I be 
the first to say if I meet  charlotte jackson I too will ask her to put my 
hands 
down my trousers.


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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:32:21 
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-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 25 January 2011 18:40
To: 'Simon Hart'; ni...@sykesonline.com
Cc: 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.

I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of idiots but
you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging each other on.
It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside and
let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b tells you
something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.



Or..

A group of women start telling the rest of the group (you included) about
how men buckle under to Man Flu and women don't - (there's even a TV
advert that makes a point of it). There are loads of examples where women
treat men as the underdog and are very vocal about it - tune in to any
episode of Loose Women and what you will see and hear is mostly men being
put down for our lack of multitasking or lack of sensitivity, and thinly
veiled jokes about men's size

I have no particular love for Andy Grey, but it seems unfair to me that what
was a bit of minor piss taking between two guys off air, has cost him his
job. I agree he and Keays were stupid and they should know better and treat
ALL microphones as live, but was it really so much? Sky are using this as an
excuse to get rid I reckon.




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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread David Bromley
Well they'll need to replace him by someone who can be trusted to be more 
careful in what they say.


Big Ron perhaps



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From: Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk

To: e...@morrish.org
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.




Yes, and that's why he's gone and Keys stays.

Was all a bit boring anyway. Good time for a shake up.

More interesting will be to see who of BBC, ITV and C5 snap him up
after a suitable period of forgetfulness.

On 25 January 2011 21:31, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:


(Isn't he suing the News Corp-owned News of the World right now?)

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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Eric B
It's a bit odd that they've used an earlier instance of sexist behaviour to
justify his sacking, though. 

is it really? you get a warning and if you do it again its OUT. A bit like
getting two yellow cards = red card.
As an x footballer Mr. Gray should have known this would happen. I have no
empathy for him. Im done with
men thinking woman cant THINK as good as men.

Eric

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a bit odd that they've used an earlier instance of sexist
 behaviour to justify his sacking, though. He was warned as to his
 conduct this weekend, and then they've dug out something from before
 he was warned and fired him - it's not like he could take the warning
 into consideration. I'm not at all surprised to hear he's instructed
 Schillings.

 (Isn't he suing the News Corp-owned News of the World right now?)

 On the other hand, twice he's said, What do women know about the
 offside rule?. Like that's the only bit they don't get, or that it's
 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in football.

 Cheers,
 Ed.

 On 25/01/2011, Brian Hamilton br...@wandering-rogue.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
  On behalf of FA Match Officials everywhere I would like to thank Barney
 at
  Sky Sports for depriving this person the media oxygen his over inflated
 ego
  so obviously craves.
 
  Goodbye Mr Gray.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
  Behalf Of sinister dexter
  Sent: 25 January 2011 19:03
  To: Matt Anderson
  Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'
  Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
 
 
  Bollox to Andy Gray, Villa  Wolves, who's laughing now you big faced
 twat?
 
  never really liked him that much.
 
 
  On 25 Jan 2011, at 18:39, Matt Anderson wrote:
 
  I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of
  idiots but you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging
  each other on.
  It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside
  and let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b
  tells you something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.
 
 
 
  It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally
  disgusted by a woman lino
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....

2011-01-25 Thread Wayne
I hope they don't give the job to Jeff stelling, het gets right on my nerves.
Chris kamara would be good for comedy effect... or a good looking bird with a 
nice pair of tits.

Wayne



- Reply message -
From: Eric B barl...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 23:49
Subject: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
To: e...@morrish.org
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org, br...@wandering-rogue.fsnet.co.uk


It's a bit odd that they've used an earlier instance of sexist behaviour to
justify his sacking, though. 

is it really? you get a warning and if you do it again its OUT. A bit like
getting two yellow cards = red card.
As an x footballer Mr. Gray should have known this would happen. I have no
empathy for him. Im done with
men thinking woman cant THINK as good as men.

Eric

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a bit odd that they've used an earlier instance of sexist
 behaviour to justify his sacking, though. He was warned as to his
 conduct this weekend, and then they've dug out something from before
 he was warned and fired him - it's not like he could take the warning
 into consideration. I'm not at all surprised to hear he's instructed
 Schillings.

 (Isn't he suing the News Corp-owned News of the World right now?)

 On the other hand, twice he's said, What do women know about the
 offside rule?. Like that's the only bit they don't get, or that it's
 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in football.

 Cheers,
 Ed.

 On 25/01/2011, Brian Hamilton br...@wandering-rogue.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
  On behalf of FA Match Officials everywhere I would like to thank Barney
 at
  Sky Sports for depriving this person the media oxygen his over inflated
 ego
  so obviously craves.
 
  Goodbye Mr Gray.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
  Behalf Of sinister dexter
  Sent: 25 January 2011 19:03
  To: Matt Anderson
  Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart'
  Subject: Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.
 
 
  Bollox to Andy Gray, Villa  Wolves, who's laughing now you big faced
 twat?
 
  never really liked him that much.
 
 
  On 25 Jan 2011, at 18:39, Matt Anderson wrote:
 
  I feel a bit sorry for them in a way,  they are clearly a pair of
  idiots but you get the feeling they might have been bantering and egging
  each other on.
  It's a common stereotype joke about women not understanding offside
  and let's face it who hasn't been in a situation where a complete kn0b
  tells you something and you sort of smile and half agree to shut him up.
 
 
 
  It's the venom in it that I cant understand Gray is clearly totally
  disgusted by a woman lino

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