Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread David Smail
Mad Nigel? No thanks, he'd attack somebody sooner or later.

 

Dave

 

 

 

From: Ted [mailto:tedhea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 February 2018 12:48
To: Richard Naef
Cc: seanscr...@aol.com; dsm...@dsmail.plus.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

 

See Leeds fan Stuart McCall has just been sacked by Bradford coincidence?  
;-)

 

 

Personally, I feel a bit sorry for TC, injuries/suspensions, Orta, etc.  Not an 
easy job.

 

I'd prefer to go for a defensive minded British manager - maybe the only 
(realistic) name banded about would be Nigel Pearson?  

 

Ted H

 

 

 

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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread David Smail
Only if we could field that wasn't decimated through  mass red card 
suspensions. Grot and Sacko might get a game (give me strength Lord)  - they do 
sometimes anyway.

 

Dave

 

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Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

 

Berardi's limited as a player (something he has admitted himself), but if every 
player we have played with his desire and intensity, we'd be much higher up the 
table. 

 

Sean



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To: richard <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
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Sent: Sun, Feb 4, 2018 11:49 pm
Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and finish
the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent crop. Stam would
be dull and boring and although I care not about his Man Utd links and he
may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer the drop with Grayson than
Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and I really don't like him.
Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever really
know under what circumstances he left? 

Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the early
40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw especially
against stronger opposition as we have to face. Avoiding relegation has
suddenly become the focus and that's not being over pessimistic. George
Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat - anyone? Ha





So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard Leeds
were interested it was a no brainer" What must they be thinking now? I
wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a favour, I
can do better than that" I wish the very thought had passed through
Beradi's head. What a liability!





Dave

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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
 I would find it really hard to watch Leeds with him on the sidelines. It was 
bad enough with Warnock 
On Monday, February 5, 2018, 1:45:45 AM EST, Scott1cairns1 
 wrote:  
 
 If it’s Mclaren I’m off. Seriously!!

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a 
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
> Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
> around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
> Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef 
> To: leedslist  
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread nat...@sky.com
I do have some sympathy for TC (thought he was out of his depth as well) -and I 
not sure if the sending offs were 100% the players fault or the manager should 
take some blame
Having said that only O'Kane's red can be said to have affected the game (o o 
at the time and lost 1 0)
Cooper v Cardiff ( 2 0 down at the time)Saiz at Newport - 2 1 and only seconds 
to goCooper v Millwall - 2 0 at the timeBerardi v Cardiff (h) 2-0 at the time 
and 3 0 by the time he got to the tunnel
Berardi's other red v Bristol we won 3 0 and it was 3 0 when he went off

OF course the subsequent bans have affected us , none more so than Saiz and his 
6 games for spitting but the cards did not affect the results of the games in 4 
of the 5 defeats - if anything they helped the team who suddenly gave it a bit 
of effort, commitment and attacking verve - Millwall so near to an historic 
victory

Dave


 


Personally, I feel a bit sorry for TC, injuries/suspensions, Orta, etc.
Not an easy job.

  
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Ted
See Leeds fan Stuart McCall has just been sacked by Bradford
coincidence?  ;-)


Personally, I feel a bit sorry for TC, injuries/suspensions, Orta, etc.
Not an easy job.

I'd prefer to go for a defensive minded British manager - maybe the only
(realistic) name banded about would be Nigel Pearson?

Ted H
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Naef
Red card table at least.

Sent from my Mobile

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Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
From: seanscr...@aol.com
To: dsm...@dsmail.plus.com,Richard Naef
CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org

Berardi's limited as a player (something he has admitted himself), but if every 
player we have played with his desire and intensity, we'd be much higher up the 
table.

Sean


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From: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
To: richard <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sun, Feb 4, 2018 11:49 pm
Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and finish
the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent crop. Stam would
be dull and boring and although I care not about his Man Utd links and he
may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer the drop with Grayson than
Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and I really don't like him.
Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever really
know under what circumstances he left?

Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the early
40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw especially
against stronger opposition as we have to face. Avoiding relegation has
suddenly become the focus and that's not being over pessimistic. George
Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat - anyone? Ha





So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard Leeds
were interested it was a no brainer" What must they be thinking now? I
wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a favour, I
can do better than that" I wish the very thought had passed through
Beradi's head. What a liability!





Dave

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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address}
Berardi's limited as a player (something he has admitted himself), but if every 
player we have played with his desire and intensity, we'd be much higher up the 
table.


Sean



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From: David Smail 
To: richard 
Cc: leedslist 
Sent: Sun, Feb 4, 2018 11:49 pm
Subject: [LU]  Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and finish
the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent crop.  Stam would
be dull and boring and although I care not about his Man Utd links and  he
may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer the drop with Grayson than
Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and I really don't like him.
Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever really
know under what circumstances he left? 

Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the early
40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw especially
against stronger opposition as we have to face.  Avoiding relegation has
suddenly become the focus and that's not being over pessimistic. George
Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat - anyone? Ha

 

 

So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard Leeds
were interested it was a no brainer"  What must they be thinking now? I
wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a favour,  I
can do better than that"   I wish the very thought had passed through
Beradi's head. What a liability!

 

 

Dave

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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread nat...@sky.com
None of the names fill me with confidence - I assume (false hope?) that given 
the timing of the sacking 9pm on a Sunday, they already have the next one lined 
up and sorted
If it is Heckingbottom or anyone else currently in a job  then I hope he has 
already agreed and we don't end up with the Martin O'Neill situation where the 
current club refuse to let us speak to the manager
I do want a manager who is brought in for the long term and not just till the 
end of the season - we do not want to go into pre-season, yet again, starting 
from scratch. Monk leaving meant that last season was a total write off and not 
the spring board we wanted. A caretaker type would mean this season would be 
another 'one off' with no lessons learned
Dave

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: Roy Blackwell <rd25...@googlemail.com> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 10:44
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
I thought he’d be a racing (car) certainty 

From: Roy Blackwell [mailto:rd25...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 05 February 2018 12:09
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Phil Hey on twitter reckons its not McClaren

On 5 Feb 2018 10:04, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> 
wrote:
Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>;
 Richard Naef 
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Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ?



      From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>
 To: Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently.



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
>
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
>
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I
> would have given him a few more games Dave
>
>      From: Richard Naef 
><rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Scott1cairns1
George says not with a ten foot pole. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 5 Feb 2018, at 10:43, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> I thought he’d be a racing (car) certainty 
> 
> From: Roy Blackwell [mailto:rd25...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 05 February 2018 12:09
> To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> Cc: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> Phil Hey on twitter reckons its not McClaren
> 
> On 5 Feb 2018 10:04, "Michael Benjamin" 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
> Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist 
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> Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>;
>  Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> Mark Hughes anyone ?
> 
> 
> 
>  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>
> To: Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef 
>> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>> From: nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>
>> To: Leeds List
>> CC:
>> 
>> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get
>> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what
>> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I
>> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I
>> would have given him a few more games Dave
>> 
>> From: Richard Naef 
>> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>
>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
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>> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Benjamin
I thought he’d be a racing (car) certainty 

From: Roy Blackwell [mailto:rd25...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 05 February 2018 12:09
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Phil Hey on twitter reckons its not McClaren

On 5 Feb 2018 10:04, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> 
wrote:
Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>;
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Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ?



  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>
 To: Richard Naef 
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Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently.



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
>
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com<mailto:nat...@sky.com>
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
>
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I
> would have given him a few more games Dave
>
>  From: Richard Naef 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Scott1cairns1
Anyway I’m just off in the gym  just seen George burley. Going in so I’ll see 
what he thinks. Might fancy it himself. Ha. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 5 Feb 2018, at 10:10, {broken-address} John Lee 
> <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Regardless of your view of Manure, Hughes is a crap manager, has chips on 
> both shoulders, and is a bit of a ! Why take on someone who a sizeable 
> proportion of the fans would loathe even before he'd arrived! Every time 
> there was a defeat he'd be crucified, every mistake it'd be 'Scum Out!' Why 
> bother with the hassle - gut instinct tells you it's a really bad idea. Plus 
> he's nowt of a manager!
> 
>  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 10:04
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef 
> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> Mark Hughes anyone ? 
> 
> 
> 
>   From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>   
> Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>> From: nat...@sky.com
>> To: Leeds List
>> CC:
>> 
>> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get 
>> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what 
>> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I 
>> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I 
>> would have given him a few more games Dave
>> 
>>   From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
>> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
I think that covers that option John :) 

  From: John Lee <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 10:10
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Regardless of your view of Manure, Hughes is a crap manager, has chips on both 
shoulders, and is a bit of a ! Why take on someone who a sizeable 
proportion of the fans would loathe even before he'd arrived! Every time there 
was a defeat he'd be crucified, every mistake it'd be 'Scum Out!' Why bother 
with the hassle - gut instinct tells you it's a really bad idea. Plus he's nowt 
of a manager!

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 10:04
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
  
Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred? 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ? 



      From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
  
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get 
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what 
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I 
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I 
> would have given him a few more games Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread - -
   seconded

   what a chuffing mess once again - just after the transfer window
   shuts...half your first team gets itself suspended (the other half
   injured)...you're not even responsible for the hiring and firing of
   players...talk about trying to do a job with your hands tied...back to
   the merry go round...back to another "make do" interim manager...Peter
   Reid anyone...Dennis Wise...lets make Eddie Gray the caretaker
   manager...what a farce

 On 05 February 2018 at 10:10 {broken-address} John Lee wrote:
 Regardless of your view of Manure, Hughes is a crap manager, has
 chips on both shoulders, and is a bit of a ! Why take on someone
 who a sizeable proportion of the fans would loathe even before he'd
 arrived! Every time there was a defeat he'd be crucified, every
 mistake it'd be 'Scum Out!' Why bother with the hassle - gut
 instinct tells you it's a really bad idea. Plus he's nowt of a
 manager!
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} John Lee
Regardless of your view of Manure, Hughes is a crap manager, has chips on both 
shoulders, and is a bit of a ! Why take on someone who a sizeable 
proportion of the fans would loathe even before he'd arrived! Every time there 
was a defeat he'd be crucified, every mistake it'd be 'Scum Out!' Why bother 
with the hassle - gut instinct tells you it's a really bad idea. Plus he's nowt 
of a manager!

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 10:04
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred? 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ? 



      From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
  
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get 
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what 
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I 
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I 
> would have given him a few more games Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Roy Blackwell
Phil Hey on twitter reckons its not McClaren

On 5 Feb 2018 10:04, "Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
> Mark Hughes anyone ?
>
>
>
>   From: {broken-address} Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-
> broken.gn.apc.org>
>  To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
> Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently.
>
>
>
> > On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> >
> > Sent from my Mobile
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> > From: nat...@sky.com
> > To: Leeds List
> > CC:
> >
> > Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get
> > a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what
> > you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I
> > could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I
> > would have given him a few more games Dave
> >
> >  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> > To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> > Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Benjamin
Agree with everything apart from Sheepskin coat

From: John Lee [mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 05 February 2018 11:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; David Smail 
<dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

We need a Tony PulisDavid Moyes type - someone who will make us hard to beat 
and make us work hard. The fans would support that. I don't see his style of 
footie as being attractive going forward, but looking like Brazil can wait - 
let's learn how to defend, compete, and pass a ball again first!!

If Rad & co have learnt anything, and I'm not convinced they have yet, it is 
that experience is key in this league! Unless we invest in a serious manager, 
who can decide on his own transfers, we're doomed to have this experience time 
and again!

As far as the names bandied about so far - O'Weary, Strach, Gary Mac, Grayson, 
McClaren (give me strength!), Hughes (NO!) - none of the above.

I suspect we'll pluck our next Messiah out of the Italian second division, and 
off we go again!!

Still, not all bad, they did the right thing getting rid of TC!

John

PS Paul Reaney still wears a sheepskin coat and looks manager material to me :-)


From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>;
 David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com<mailto:dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>>
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>" 
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Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:26
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Strachan is good for a laugh-- but there is no way he'd sit in with our new 
managerial concepts. The wolly for me. He set up Maccabi Tel-Aviv who are now 
top of the league. He worked well with Cruyf -- the kosher Orta.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist 
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Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 10:22
To: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com<mailto:dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Deffo not Grayson for me.

McLaren and his umbrella would not excite but I do believe he would sort things 
out but not for me long term.

Who else is available ? Strachan ?



> On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:49, David Smail 
> <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com<mailto:dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>> wrote:
>
> Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and
> finish the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent
> crop.  Stam would be dull and boring and although I care not about his
> Man Utd links and  he may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer
> the drop with Grayson than Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and 
> I really don't like him.
> Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever
> really know under what circumstances he left?
>
> Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the
> early 40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw
> especially against stronger opposition as we have to face.  Avoiding
> relegation has suddenly become the focus and that's not being over
> pessimistic. George Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat
> - anyone? Ha
>
>
>
>
>
> So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard
> Leeds were interested it was a no brainer"  What must they be thinking
> now? I wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a 
> favour,  I
> can do better than that"  I wish the very thought had passed through
> Beradi's head. What a liability!
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Benjamin
Why not-- or are we still pissing around with ManU hatred? 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 11:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef 
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Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ? 



  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get 
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what 
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I 
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I 
> would have given him a few more games Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} John Lee
We need a Tony PulisDavid Moyes type - someone who will make us hard to beat 
and make us work hard. The fans would support that. I don't see his style of 
footie as being attractive going forward, but looking like Brazil can wait - 
let's learn how to defend, compete, and pass a ball again first!!
If Rad & co have learnt anything, and I'm not convinced they have yet, it is 
that experience is key in this league! Unless we invest in a serious manager, 
who can decide on his own transfers, we're doomed to have this experience time 
and again! 
As far as the names bandied about so far - O'Weary, Strach, Gary Mac, Grayson, 
McClaren (give me strength!), Hughes (NO!) - none of the above.
I suspect we'll pluck our next Messiah out of the Italian second division, and 
off we go again!!
Still, not all bad, they did the right thing getting rid of TC!
John
PS Paul Reaney still wears a sheepskin coat and looks manager material to me 
:-) 

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; David Smail 
<dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:26
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Strachan is good for a laugh-- but there is no way he'd sit in with our new 
managerial concepts. The wolly for me. He set up Maccabi Tel-Aviv who are now 
top of the league. He worked well with Cruyf -- the kosher Orta. 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 10:22
To: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Deffo not Grayson for me.

McLaren and his umbrella would not excite but I do believe he would sort things 
out but not for me long term.

Who else is available ? Strachan ?



> On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:49, David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
> 
> Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and 
> finish the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent 
> crop.  Stam would be dull and boring and although I care not about his 
> Man Utd links and  he may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer 
> the drop with Grayson than Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and 
> I really don't like him.
> Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever 
> really know under what circumstances he left?
> 
> Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the 
> early 40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw 
> especially against stronger opposition as we have to face.  Avoiding 
> relegation has suddenly become the focus and that's not being over 
> pessimistic. George Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat 
> - anyone? Ha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard 
> Leeds were interested it was a no brainer"  What must they be thinking 
> now? I wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a 
> favour,  I
> can do better than that"  I wish the very thought had passed through
> Beradi's head. What a liability!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Matt Anderson
Was on twitter/ facebook until late last night.  We have got some idiots for 
fans.

The McClaren thing is nonsense,  he is a Leeds fan and going to the game means 
nothing.  O'Leary was at a game the other week (unbelievably some social media 
suggesting he, McAllister etc..) should come back

Does anyone think after Sunderland (biggish club huge problems) Grayson would 
be in the board's thoughts??? 

We are much more likely to get Stam or another random foreign manager 

Also Marco Silva??? He was about to manage a top 10 premier team with £ 
transfer budget, clearly got high ambitions,  anyone think he would come to a 
mid table championship club?

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 09:27
To: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Mark Hughes anyone ? 



  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get 
> a woman in !) A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what 
> you're doing chants' on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I 
> could not see him turning things around so not too unhappy albeit I 
> would have given him a few more games Dave
> 
>  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
Mark Hughes anyone ? 



  From: {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
 To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018, 8:27
 Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
> -------- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a 
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
> Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
> around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
> Dave
> 
>      From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
Do you think ? I thought they were diabolical when we played them recently. 



> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a 
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
> Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
> around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
> Dave
> 
>  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Benjamin
Strachan is good for a laugh-- but there is no way he'd sit in with our new 
managerial concepts. The wolly for me. He set up Maccabi Tel-Aviv who are now 
top of the league. He worked well with Cruyf -- the kosher Orta. 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 05 February 2018 10:22
To: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

Deffo not Grayson for me.

McLaren and his umbrella would not excite but I do believe he would sort things 
out but not for me long term.

Who else is available ? Strachan ?



> On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:49, David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
> 
> Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and 
> finish the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent 
> crop.  Stam would be dull and boring and although I care not about his 
> Man Utd links and  he may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer 
> the drop with Grayson than Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and 
> I really don't like him.
> Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever 
> really know under what circumstances he left?
> 
> Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the 
> early 40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw 
> especially against stronger opposition as we have to face.  Avoiding 
> relegation has suddenly become the focus and that's not being over 
> pessimistic. George Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat 
> - anyone? Ha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard 
> Leeds were interested it was a no brainer"  What must they be thinking 
> now? I wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a 
> favour,  I
> can do better than that"   I wish the very thought had passed through
> Beradi's head. What a liability!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-05 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
Deffo not Grayson for me.

McLaren and his umbrella would not excite but I do believe he would sort things 
out but not for me long term.

Who else is available ? Strachan ?



> On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:49, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> Grayson by a country mile - he always said he'd love to return and finish
> the job - why not now? He did as well as any of the recent crop.  Stam would
> be dull and boring and although I care not about his Man Utd links and  he
> may save us from relegation, I'd "almost" prefer the drop with Grayson than
> Stam at the helm. McLaren is a total has been and I really don't like him.
> Monk would be my first choice but no chance of that - will we ever really
> know under what circumstances he left? 
> 
> Looking at recent years, clubs have gone down with points total in the early
> 40s. At the moment, I can't see anything better than a draw especially
> against stronger opposition as we have to face.  Avoiding relegation has
> suddenly become the focus and that's not being over pessimistic. George
> Graham would park the bus and make us hard to beat - anyone? Ha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So often we hear from new signings saying words like "When I heard Leeds
> were interested it was a no brainer"  What must they be thinking now? I
> wonder how many prospective signings have thought "Leeds? Do me a favour,  I
> can do better than that"   I wish the very thought had passed through
> Beradi's head. What a liability!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread Scott1cairns1
If it’s Mclaren I’m off. Seriously!!

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a 
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
> Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
> around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
> Dave
> 
>  From: Richard Naef 
> To: leedslist  
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
 I am in complete agreement with Andy.
On Sunday, February 4, 2018, 5:03:22 PM EST, Andy Clayton 
 wrote:  
 
 I thought we now had a better owner than this. The timing is stupid, right
after the window shut. Disappointed.

You have to look at some of the players we’ve brought in, and probably more
importantly, the gaps we haven’t filled; the mass of U23 players as well,
then ask yourself who is really to blame. I feel for TC, I think he’s been
made a scapegoat.

I shall be even more disappointed if it’s McLaren, Grayson, Stamm or
O’Leary.

Shit start to the week.

Andy C

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 at 21:52, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants'
> on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning
> things around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more
> games
> Dave
>
>      From: Richard Naef 
>  To: leedslist 
>  Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
>  Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread Richard Naef
TBF TC came in telling everyone where monk went wrong, but then made the same 
errors (Newport) and we're in a worse position than we were with monk,. Nice 
guy, but by any metric he failed.

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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
From: Andy Clayton
To: nat...@sky.com
CC: Leeds List

I thought we now had a better owner than this. The timing is stupid, right
after the window shut. Disappointed.

You have to look at some of the players we’ve brought in, and probably more
importantly, the gaps we haven’t filled; the mass of U23 players as well,
then ask yourself who is really to blame. I feel for TC, I think he’s been
made a scapegoat.

I shall be even more disappointed if it’s McLaren, Grayson, Stamm or
O’Leary.

Shit start to the week.

Andy C

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 at 21:52, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com> wrote:

> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants'
> on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning
> things around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more
> games
> Dave
>
>   From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
>  To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
>  Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread Matt Anderson
Just signed a new contract last week 

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> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:59, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
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>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> From: nat...@sky.com
> To: Leeds List
> CC:
> 
> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a 
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
> Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
> around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
> Dave
> 
>  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
> Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
> 
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread Andy Clayton
I thought we now had a better owner than this. The timing is stupid, right
after the window shut. Disappointed.

You have to look at some of the players we’ve brought in, and probably more
importantly, the gaps we haven’t filled; the mass of U23 players as well,
then ask yourself who is really to blame. I feel for TC, I think he’s been
made a scapegoat.

I shall be even more disappointed if it’s McLaren, Grayson, Stamm or
O’Leary.

Shit start to the week.

Andy C

On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 at 21:52, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a
> woman in !)
> A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants'
> on Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning
> things around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more
> games
> Dave
>
>   From: Richard Naef 
>  To: leedslist 
>  Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
>  Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread Richard Naef
Heckingbottom? Done a amazing job at Barnsley.

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 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
From: nat...@sky.com
To: Leeds List
CC:

Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a woman 
in !)
A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
Dave

  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
 To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
 Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson



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Re: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson

2018-02-04 Thread nat...@sky.com
Roll on the next failure, whoever he may be (or lets go for it and get a woman 
in !)
A bit premature in some ways but the 'don;t know what you're doing chants' on 
Sat were a sign of the times , personally I could not see him turning things 
around so not too unhappy albeit I would have given him a few more games
Dave

  From: Richard Naef 
 To: leedslist  
 Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018, 21:45
 Subject: [LU] Or McLaren, stam or Grayson
   


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