Re: Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread CURTIS GEORGE
Tanks Bill 
I own a pin router, and your last video makes we want to go out an play with 
it, Right NOW! ;-) 
You know, if you use a little bit of all of these videos. make your self a 
template and try to use the Legacy's template follower, it just might work out 
for you Roger? 
I wish you all luck on this one. 
Please keep on posting your ideas. 
this is a neat topic. 
  
C.A.G. 

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From: Bill Bulkeley [mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 9:28 AM 
To: 'Bawdsey 64' 
Subject: RE: Producing an ellipse 


  

perhaps you need to go away from the legacy all together and try this guys idea 

  

 p1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovWZRD2h-RU 

 p2    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-AUbvrF9I 

  

or make your self a pin router  and make it like how this picture frame is made 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSlYdsroen8 

  

Bill 

  


From: Bawdsey 64 [mailto:rhp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 2:45 AM 
To: Bill Bulkeley 
Subject: RE: Producing an ellipse 


  


Hi Bill & Curt 

Thanks for your responses, some food for thought but no total solutions! 

By the way Bill this is not the first Legacy machine I have owned, I have 
bought and sold machines in the past privately after Legacy stopped production. 
This is the first time I have had time to use one. 

  

​Cheers 

Roger 


​ 

  


From: Bill Bulkeley 


Received: 13/10/2016 16:29:27 +01:00 


To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 


Congrats roger on finally owning a mill for your self. 

  

If your mill came with a rotary table id be thinking a 12mm thick mdf oval 
template double sided taped to the table and the work taped to the template 

And a router bit with a baring ,the cross slide locked and the saddle free, 
rotate the rotary table while holding the baring against the template to mill 
an oval. Changing the baring dia would produce different oval diameters so 
would different template sizes. A template on top of the work and the baring on 
the other end of the router bit might do the inside of the box. also using the 
rotary table for indexing will produce nice patterns on the top like doing 
rosettes. 

This is how I would start, this is just an idea I have never done a oval box on 
the mill. 

Without a rotary table I guess a pin in the centre of the template so it could 
be rotated on a mdf table might work too 

Just ideas 

Bill 

  

  

  


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Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2016 7:35 PM 
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Subject: Producing an ellipse 


  

​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a flat 
board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND.  Basically what I am 
hoping to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius. 

  

What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped lid or 
some form of ellipse shaped design feature.  The ellipse will be around 9" by 
6" and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900. 

  

Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as Legacy's 
agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number of CNC.  

  

I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to pursue 
woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of retirement that I 
also never had time due to moving house and then getting a workshop and sorting 
out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this Legacy and get back to 
woodturning. 

  

Cheers 

Roger 

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FW: Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread Bill Bulkeley
 

 

From: Bill Bulkeley [mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 9:28 AM
To: 'Bawdsey 64'
Subject: RE: Producing an ellipse

 

perhaps you need to go away from the legacy all together and try this guys idea

 

 p1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovWZRD2h-RU

 p2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-AUbvrF9I

 

or make your self a pin router  and make it like how this picture frame is made

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSlYdsroen8

 

Bill

 

From: Bawdsey 64 [mailto:rhp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 2:45 AM
To: Bill Bulkeley
Subject: RE: Producing an ellipse

 

Hi Bill & Curt

Thanks for your responses, some food for thought but no total solutions!

By the way Bill this is not the first Legacy machine I have owned, I have 
bought and sold machines in the past privately after Legacy stopped production. 
This is the first time I have had time to use one.

 

​Cheers

Roger

​

 

From: Bill Bulkeley

Received: 13/10/2016 16:29:27 +01:00

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Congrats roger on finally owning a mill for your self.

 

If your mill came with a rotary table id be thinking a 12mm thick mdf oval 
template double sided taped to the table and the work taped to the template 

And a router bit with a baring ,the cross slide locked and the saddle free, 
rotate the rotary table while holding the baring against the template to mill 
an oval. Changing the baring dia would produce different oval diameters so 
would different template sizes. A template on top of the work and the baring on 
the other end of the router bit might do the inside of the box. also using the 
rotary table for indexing will produce nice patterns on the top like doing 
rosettes.

This is how I would start, this is just an idea I have never done a oval box on 
the mill.

Without a rotary table I guess a pin in the centre of the template so it could 
be rotated on a mdf table might work too

Just ideas 

Bill

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bawdsey 64
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2016 7:35 PM
To: legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Producing an ellipse

 

​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a flat 
board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND.  Basically what I am 
hoping to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius.

 

What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped lid or 
some form of ellipse shaped design feature.  The ellipse will be around 9" by 
6" and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900. 

 

Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as Legacy's 
agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number of CNC.  

 

I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to pursue 
woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of retirement that I 
also never had time due to moving house and then getting a workshop and sorting 
out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this Legacy and get back to 
woodturning.

 

Cheers

Roger

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RE: Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Congrats roger on finally owning a mill for your self.

 

If your mill came with a rotary table id be thinking a 12mm thick mdf oval 
template double sided taped to the table and the work taped to the template 

And a router bit with a baring ,the cross slide locked and the saddle free, 
rotate the rotary table while holding the baring against the template to mill 
an oval. Changing the baring dia would produce different oval diameters so 
would different template sizes. A template on top of the work and the baring on 
the other end of the router bit might do the inside of the box. also using the 
rotary table for indexing will produce nice patterns on the top like doing 
rosettes.

This is how I would start, this is just an idea I have never done a oval box on 
the mill.

Without a rotary table I guess a pin in the centre of the template so it could 
be rotated on a mdf table might work too

Just ideas 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bawdsey 64
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2016 7:35 PM
To: legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Producing an ellipse

 

​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a flat 
board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND.  Basically what I am 
hoping to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius.

 

What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped lid or 
some form of ellipse shaped design feature.  The ellipse will be around 9" by 
6" and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900. 

 

Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as Legacy's 
agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number of CNC.  

 

I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to pursue 
woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of retirement that I 
also never had time due to moving house and then getting a workshop and sorting 
out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this Legacy and get back to 
woodturning.

 

Cheers

Roger

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Re: Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread CURTIS GEORGE
Hello Roger 
If you are talking about an elliptical turning jig like what an Ornamental 
lathe dose, Ive been working on this idea for a number of years. (Here is a 
good video on this topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY ) But 
sadly I have not been able so far to get the same type of attachment to work on 
my Legacy. 
But having said that, I have found out a number of different ways to make 
elliptical turnings using the Legacy in the past. 
So you have stated, templates work well on the Legacy, (form both the template 
follower, and well as using a template following router bit and using the 
Legacy like a Pin router...) ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9D_AzR1Hcs like 
this video dose.) 
I wish you luck on this project. Please let us know your project turns out. 
C.A.G. 
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From: "Bawdsey 64"  
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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:35:27 AM 
Subject: Producing an ellipse 



​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a flat 
board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND. Basically what I am hoping 
to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius. 




What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped lid or 
some form of ellipse shaped design feature. The ellipse will be around 9" by 6" 
and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900. 




Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as Legacy's 
agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number of CNC. 




I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to pursue 
woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of retirement that I 
also never had time due to moving house and then getting a workshop and sorting 
out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this Legacy and get back to 
woodturning. 




Cheers 

Roger 



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Re: Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi
Roger
Glad you got it home I would love to have a good look at it. May get some 
ideas that I can use on my woodchuck. I often have a ride out to parts of 
the U.K.
Went up to the Dales last week very scenic ( for the U.K. )
Cheers
richard

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9:35:30 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a 
> flat board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND.  Basically what I 
> am hoping to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius.
>
>
> What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped 
> lid or some form of ellipse shaped design feature.  The ellipse will be 
> around 9" by 6" and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900. 
>
>
> Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as 
> Legacy's agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number 
> of CNC.  
>
>
> I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to 
> pursue woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of 
> retirement that I also never had time due to moving house and then getting 
> a workshop and sorting out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this 
> Legacy and get back to woodturning.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>

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Producing an ellipse

2016-10-13 Thread Bawdsey 64
​Has any one in the group any suggestions for producing an ellipse on a flat 
board WITHOUT USING A TEMPLATE OR DOING IT FREEHAND.  Basically what I am 
hoping to locate is a jig idea or a stroke of genius.

What I am planning to make is a jewellery box with an ellipse shaped lid or 
some form of ellipse shaped design feature.  The ellipse will be around 9" by 
6" and I will be using my recently acquired Model 900.

Yes I finally got a Model 900, not bad considering that in my time as Legacy's 
agent here in Europe I sold over 100 manual machines and a number of CNC. 

I found that when I was running my business that I never had time to pursue 
woodworking as a hobby. Then in my first couple of years of retirement that I 
also never had time due to moving house and then getting a workshop and sorting 
out the garden. But now I am hoping to use this Legacy and get back to 
woodturning.

Cheers
Roger

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