RE: [LegacyUG] Fw: Mapping and IE8

[CE Wood]

I think you are right, because Microsoft's own MSN software has been acting
similarly too!


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Mapping and IE8

Evert van Dijken wrote:
 Yes, that's how it works for me, but once in the Master Location List
 you cannot change the pin to another location. It will only work once
 (for me).
 If the pin is placed to the correct position the first time is it
 really a Bing position problem?

You can move the pin. You just have close the map and reopen to see where
it's 
been put. Again, smacks of an API change.

-- 
Best regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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RE: [LegacyUG] entering royal titles

[CE Wood]

There is no standard, even among the most reputable genealogists.  There are
continuous debates among them.  Remember, PLANTAGENET is not a surname.

The important thing is to have in your files as many of the different names
a person is known by.  That does mean much searching, but that is the
research necessary when dealing with titles, especially pre-1600 ones.  And,
spellings are all over the place too, so familiarity with those variants
helps too.

Legacy allows a person to be entered in many different ways, the main reason
I switched ages ago.  For instance, you can enter (surname in CAPS):
Humphrey V de BOHUN, suffix = 1st Earl of Essex
prefix = 1st Earl, Humphrey V de Bohun, of ESSEX
Humphrey de BOHUN, suffix = 2nd Earl of Hereford
prefix = 2nd Earl, Humphrey de Bohun, of HEREFORD

If you show AKAs, you can find the person under BOHUN, HEREFORD, and ESSEX.
This method can also show the succession of titles.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of nconway...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] entering royal titles

I'm having a problem searching for IGI names.  I haven't been able to find
any guidance on how to enter royal titles into genealogy programs. 
Typically royals don't have formal surnames prior to the early 1900's so
where exactly do you put their title?  Do you put the entire title as their
surname, i.e, Duke of Windsor?  Do you break it up - Prefix: Duke  Suffix:
of Windsor.  
I've noticed that if I use the IGI search, I get a lot of zero results.  But
if I go to the family search site I get results for the same person. 
Example, I have Ferdinand Karl Archduke of Austria in my database, entered
as First Name: Ferdinand Karl , Surname:Archduke of Austria.  IGI search in
Legacy returns zero hits.  If I go to the website and enter First Name:
Ferdinand Karl Archduke of  Surname:Austria  I get 3 results.  However, not
all records are like that. 
 
I'm confusedWhat is the actual standard for this?
Thanks a bunch
NConway

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RE: [LegacyUG] entering royal titles

[CE Wood]

Just a few of the  variants you may need for finding Habsburgs:

 Hapsburg, Habsbourg, Hapsbourg, Holy Roman Emperor, Austria, Spain,
Habichtsburg, Habsburg-Laufenburg


CE


-Original Message-

As for the Archduke of Austria, I believe he was of the House of  Habsburg.

I'm sure others will have better suggestions; as I said previously,  things 
can get complicated.

Jon




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RE: [LegacyUG] Double-dating in 1500s

[CE Wood]

There are other times when the year is one of two, such as regnal years.

To enter 15 March 1806-1807, be sure to enter the full years - 1086-1087.

Using 1086/87 will not work unless the within the double-dating period.


CE


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Of ceaste...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Double-dating in 1500s

I don't have a lot of dates in the 1500s but have just noticed that 
double dating isn't working in that century.  I have run File 
Maintenance Check/Repair several times since discovered.  Have 
completely removed and retyped date.  If add / and two numbers, just 
reverts to the second number.  If I use one number that ends up at the 
beginning of the date.  Have checked my settings and they seem ok.  Can 
anyone reproduce this?

I am using Vista and Legacy 7.0.0.109.

Thanks in advance,

Charlotte 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

[CE Wood]

When you upload to a website that warns that IT now owns your material, you
have given away your ownership.  It is then is up to Ancestry to pursue.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of William H. Boswell
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

I think you misunderstood my stance on this.  I'm not talking about vital
record data and the like.  I'm talking about specific information that no
one else had access to.  For instance, I have hundreds of hours of audio
interviews where specific information was transcribed and passages used in
my notes.  Some of this information has shown up word-for-word in other
people's trees.  If I don't own that information, then who does since it is
not publicly available and I still have the original recordings and there
are no public copies.

Since I had put some of that information online that is my mistake.  Most of
this information was online for many years because at the time the
intentions of most people were good, but lately there seems to be more
pirates than good intentions so I took it down.

I wouldn't mind so much that the information is used, but the thiefs could
at least cite where they got it from instead of taking ownership of my own
data.  Things like dates and places could have come from anywhere so how can
I know where that came from.  Specific information word-for-word I can tell
if it came from my data.  The only thing I ask is that they show some
respect for those of us who spent the time and money to research it.
Obviously they didn't.

Bill Boswell

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy


I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim
the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many
photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include Photo
Courtesy of ...

But just one additional point for William: your data does not belong to
you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data.
Images, recordings, stories, look  feel, and other things can be
copyrighted. But data like born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920
cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious
discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why
Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a
matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

William H. Boswell wrote
I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no
longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com.

I really don't care if people want to pirate any data I put on line.
I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it
is that's their problem.  If they want to deprive themselves of all the
fun of doing their own research, that's their problem.  On the other
hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make
contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better.

Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use
your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online
data I might want to use.  It's only polite.
--
Jenny M Benson





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[LegacyUG] Birthday not showing up in Legacy Home

[CE Wood]

I have a niece whose birthday does not show up in Birthdays, Death Dates and
Anniversaries.  Everyone else's does.  Why not hers?

 

 

CE





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RE: [LegacyUG] Birthday not showing up in Legacy Home

[CE Wood]

Oh egad!  I do need to go to bedSORRY

CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian/Support
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birthday not showing up in Legacy Home

Open her individual edit screen. Is there a check mark in the birthday 
reminders box?

Brian
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CE Wood wrote:
 I have a niece whose birthday does not show up in Birthdays, Death Dates
and
 Anniversaries.  Everyone else's does.  Why not hers?
 
 CE



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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting

[CE Wood]

Hi John,

Does the software also calculate generations?  Legacy has a well-documented
problem doing that reliably.

In any case, could you send me, off-list perhaps, the name of the software
you use for these marvelous charts?


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of John Magyari
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Charting

The Chart you are describing is sometimes referred to as a Blood 
relationship chart, which is great to show families, children and to 
have at family reunions.  I've created several of these for reunions and 
family members.  And also find that most of my family members seem to 
spend more time looking at this type a chart to see who they are related 
to vs just their own ancestry tree.

Sometimes people also want to print an All-In-One Chart which would 
include everybody you've recorded in your database.
With large databases  this is sometimes unpractical because it's just to 
big.
What I do with All-In-One Charts is create subset databases:
For example I'll tag a branch of a tree and then tag people I'm not sure 
if connected but possibly, create a gedcom.  Then create an All-In-One 
Chart.  This has been helpful when trying to get others to view the 
section I'm working and I find it very helpful for myself.

Of the charts I use I find I use the above All-In-One and via a 
All-In-One chart create a Blood Relationship Charts for about 65% of 
all charts I create.

Of the 8 or 9 different packages I've tried in the past only one company 
seems to do a very good job in this area.  Currently we do not have 
these Chart Types in Legacy.

Another type of Chart I've been requested to do is an Hour Glass Chart 
based on all Children as the center node
Ex.  2 Sisters and 1 Brother all married
Create an Hour glass Chart that includes all Ancestors of above 3 
Children and their spouses and then the direct descendants of the 3 
children.

A few people have asked for their Charts to be created with their a Step 
Parent vs their biological parent who skipped out of their lives (that 
they don't even care about the skipped out biological parent).  An 
All-In-One Chart here is great because you can just delete the unwanted 
Biological Parent Tree limb (person and their ancestors) from the Chart 
and your left with the functional Family.  The Family Chart

Most programs on the market limit their charts to biological ancestors 
and descendants and their spouses.
Based on human nature I would imagine that sometimes a few listed in 
genealogical databases as biological parents are in fact only the 
married parents.

Charts are great when you can create the kinds of charts YOU want to 
create.

I created a Chart to show my mom of all her relatives, she has help me 
collect info over the last 5 years. The chart ended up being 6 feet high 
and 20 feet long.  She had no idea that we had collected so much info.

john



Jenny M Benson wrote:
 rck wrote
 Hi, is it possible to create an ancestor chart that also shows 
 selected cousins, uncles, aunts, etc.?

 Your cousins, uncles and aunts are not your ancestors so any chart 
 which showed them would not be an Ancestor Chart, would it?!



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RE: [LegacyUG] AKA Married names in Legacy 7 name list

[CE Wood]

Click on OptionsData Entry.  At the bottom of the page - Rule for
generating default married names - click the down arrow and select - 0 -
don't generate married names.  Then click Apply.  Then Save.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of WALTER D. CONNER
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA  Married names in Legacy 7 name list

You are right, Mike, I was looking at the wrong Options button. This does 
raise another question though. Legacy 7 also has the option of showing 
married names for wives. I have been showing those as AKAs so that they 
would appear in the name list and in the name index of reports. NOW what do 
I do short of going back over each and every entry and removing that AKA 
otherwise I get an AKA entry AND a married name entry.

Thanks,

Walt Conner 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

[CE Wood]

You can cut and paste text but not pictures.  Legacy does not store pictures.  
It links to the location on your computer where you have saved the picture.


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

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From: Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

Dawn




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RE: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Emailing info

[CE Wood]

When creating reports, you have options of which format to create them in.
Not all formats are available for all reports.  Not all formats include
everything you can see in Preview.

Choose one of the emailable options:  Text file, HTML File, Rich Text File,
PDF File.

Click Create.
In the Create Report window that opens, choose where you want the file to be
saved and insert a name for your file.  Click Save.  The file will be
created.

The Preview screen will open along with a message asking if you want to view
the file you have created.  Click Yes.  Then check that your file has what
you want.

All the files can be attached to an email.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Kramer
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Emailing info

This may seem elementary to the more techie people, but how do I email  
a report, not the entire family file, to someone?  I wanted to send  
someone just her greatgrandparents on down so she could review for  
content and make additions and corrections.  I could only figure out  
how to print and mail to her.  That would make it more costly for me  
to do that for lots of people.  Any detailed instructions would be  
most helpful.  Most likely these would be in the Descendant Book  
format, but some might be in the Ancestor format.

Thanks and God bless,

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger  
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families









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RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

RTF format is not offered for the reports in question.

It is both the Text and HTML formats that do not include either Index when
selected and when they DO show in Preview and PDF.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports

CE,
I believe the limitations you are experiencing are part and parcel of the
type of output you are requesting, rather than a limitation of Legacy.
Asking for a text file will automatically strip / not pick up the coding
which allows for the creation of an index - just as it strips / does not
pick up any coding relating to font, bold, italics etc.  It produces a text
document only.  With the .rtf document it includes something like the
following

[ Note:  Using your word processor, generate an Index here. ]
[ All names have been marked as index entries in this document. ]
[ Erase these three lines. ]

at the end of the document so you can use your word processor to create the
index.  I find this invaluable, because I don't create the index until I
have edited the .rtf which may put people onto different pages as I move
things, change the size of photos etc.  So the .rtf version retains the
index markings, but allows you to still create an index once you have
finished editing.  The other versions you cannot edit (unless you have a
fully fledged PDF creator / editor) so there is no need to hold off creating
the index.

Cheers
Jan

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 8:07
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports

I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that, when a
report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing various types of
files, that those options be produced in whatever format which has a
checkbox.

The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the file in
your word processor.

When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume that
the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e.
Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF.

When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you assume that
when produced in one of the formats with a check box, that the indices will
be produced when you choose one of those formats.

This does not happen!  The indices are missing!!!

THAT is what the problem is.


CE





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file

[CE Wood]

See page:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpPDFerrors.asp.

PDF File Errors
Can't Create PDF file or PDF files missing pages/pictures (Legacy Deluxe
only)

8.  There is a limit to how large a PDF file can be.  We have experienced
problems where pages and pictures and are dropped with PDF files containing
hundreds of pages.  Please recreate your PDF book in separate, smaller
volumes.


CE


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file

Thanks, so much, Dan; your message was very helpful, and I changed the
virtual memory as you suggested -- to 8500mb -- it was previously set at
c6500mb.
 
However, when I again attempted to create the .pdf I got the Error 3050
message again.  So I came down a few generations and tried again and this
time it was successful -- the result was a .pdf file of just under 142,000kb
with c140 pictures.  It's 385 pp (c100 of them are citations).  
 
If I had gotten the whole thing, I estimate that I would have added 50-100
pp and c50 pictures--nowhere near the 3500 pages it previously attempted to
create.
 
I don't know whether the size of the pictures affects things, mine are quite
a nice size.
 
I am wondering whether there is a Legacy or Adobe bug involve?
 
It doesn't seem to me that it is too much to ask of Legacy to create a .pdf
of 200 pages.
 
I'd really appreciate any further comments.
 
Pat 
- Original Message - 
From: Orion 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file

It sounds to me like you've run out of virtual memory.
 
In short, the computer has not got enough space to work with the pdf file
that is being created.  PDF files are notoriously big especially so when u
add photo's to it.  And if generating a 3500 page file...wow!  Its going to
be huge, and will take forever to open if u ever get it created.  
 
Think of your virtual memory like your desk, and your hard drive like your
book shelf.  ...when u work on a project you work on your desk and all your
supplies are stored on your book shelf.  If you don't have enough room on
the desk...it makes working on the project extremely hard, or at the very
least very time consuming moving stuff on and off the desk.  Computers are
the same way.  That's why you're encouraged to have as much memory as
possible.    
 
As a rule of thumb, your virtual memory should be at least twice the size of
your RAM memory.  The computer will automatically set it but generally no
where near the proper size.  You have the ability to change it,
manually...(but you will get warning messages when you do so - don't worry
about them)
 
First, check how much space you have available.  You said you have 4 GB of
RAM.  This means your should set your virtual memory to at least 8 GB (I
would set mine to 8320 mb...which equates to 8 GB of space plus 128 kb -
just to be safe).  Make sure you have the available space on your hard drive
as this is where your desk is carved out of.  Assuming you have the space
continue as indicated.  My instructions are for XP...I don't use Vista as it
is to problematic...even Microsoft is moving away from it.  You'll have to
make the necessary adjustments in finding the exact location
 
1)  Right click on My Computer
2)  Left click on Properties
3)  Left click on the Advanced tab
4)  Find the Virtual Memory section and click on the change button.  
5)  Set the Initial Size and the Maximum size to the same number...8320 (you
set them both to the same size so the system takes all the room it will need
at one time.  Otherwise the computer will only take the bare minimum when it
starts up and continue trying to take more as needed.  It's similar to
having to work on 10 or 12 small desks vs. 1 large desk.  The large desk is
what you want)
6)  Click ok until you are backed right out.  
7)  Restart your computer
 
You will now have enough virtual memory to properly work with your
computer.   Assuming your have the hard drive space available, I guarantee
that ALL your programs will run better, not just Legacy.  
 
One word of caution...make sure you have enough disk space...or else you may
lock your computer up and not get it to start
 
Best of luck.
 
Dan
 


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Evert van Dijken
Sent: October 6, 2009 6:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file
There could also be something wrong with writing permissions to a folder or
drive (cd, dvd, usb?).
Evert
2009/10/6 Robert57P_Gmail robert...@gmail.com
Pat,
 
How's your hard drive space?  It might be  having a problem creating some
temporary work files on the drive due to lack of space.
 
I'd also look over the drive for any left-over 

RE: [LegacyUG] living again

[CE Wood]

Assuming these are people without a death date, Click OptionsCustomizeData
Entry.

In the section Presumed Dead, Set as dead if over, enter the age at which
you want Legacy to mark people as dead


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] living again

I did everything y'all to do but the program is still killing people that 
are long dead.  If someone married in 1821 there is no way they could be 
alive but Legacy is marking them as living unless I manually kill them off. 
I have tagged everyone in my file that is marked as living that doesn't have

a birth date and I am killing them off one at a time.  I only have 2000 more

to check!

Maybe Legacy can add some additional parameters for automatically killing 
people off.  If a person was married 100 years ago or more he is probably 
dead.  If his mother died over 100 years ago he is probably dead etc.

The problem is that my uploaded file on the internet has 1/3 of the people 
marked as living so my file isn't very helpful to anyone.

michele

- Original Message - 
From: Eileen reilee...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master l Source is messing up


 Well I just hate to write again about anything to do with Legacy, I have 
 not
 done anymore updates for fear of some unknown happening.  I'm on version
 7.0.090 and have used the program since version 4.

 I have been updating all my families with their 1850 census, I go to the
 Master Source List, go to Source, open the file and go down the list
 checking everything that shows it has a 1850 census.  Ask it to show me 
 the
 list, to make sure all are checked with a number 2, close it and go to the
 next one.

 I have come on a group under Indiana, Clay Co., Van Buren Twp., - 1850 and
 the next on the list is the same everything except it's a 1860.  These two
 list has 18 people, All eighteen have both the 1850 census and the 1860
 census.

 All of the people on both these lists have 1850 census and 1860 census on
 their family screens, all information shows correct, all sources show
 correct, but on the Master list, only half of them (11) show on 1850 list
 and (7) show on the  1860.

 So I went through all the 1860 deleted the old 1860 from the Events list,
 re-added it and everything on my Master Source list finally showed up just
 right, all on both the 1850  1860 lists.

 Shut the program down, since I was almost sick thinking of all I was going
 to have to change when I finally felt up to it.  Some hours have gone bye,
 open up the program, went right to the Master Source and guess what half 
 is
 on the 1850 and half are on the 1860. Right back to where they were before
 all the work deleting and adding the census again.   What in the world is
 happening?  Can I sent attachments so you can look at the papers I printed
 out?  It might help you understand what I'm writing.

 I know I don't seem to be able to explain things clearly so staff can
 understand what I telling them.  But this is a mess and I afraid to check
 anymore files but know that there are more errors.

 Pleae help as soon as possible
 thanks
 Eileen





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RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The
Index/Indices is shown/printed.  When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) the
Index/Indices are NOT!

If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL
permissible formats!


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Walton
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports

It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf. Pedigree
will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
certainly capable of doing it. My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and
importing a pdf of group sheets, etc. as images into the document. I'm just
disappointed that I can't create an rtf of the source report so that I could
then create a bibliography and reference that in my text.

Jim

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:
I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and Lineage
Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.

Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.

And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
the first chapter.


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that, when a
report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing various types of
files, that those options be produced in whatever format which has a
checkbox.

The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the file in
your word processor.

When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume that
the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e.
Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF.

When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you assume that
when produced in one of the formats with a check box, that the indices will
be produced when you choose one of those formats.

This does not happen!  The indices are missing!!!

THAT is what the problem is.


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports

Jim,

Whilst I broadly agree with you comments regarding the Legacy reporting 
(except for the blank page which I have never experienced) as I have said 
before, it is my belief that those asking for what would amount to a fully 
fledged word processor as part of the program are asking for far too much. 
The total size of the package would be far too big for many, and why should 
Legacy reinvent the wheel when it is there in Word, Open Office and a number

of other programs.

If it is ever done then let us add onto the list a fully fledged web page 
designer, after all, why should the web creation section of users be not 
have an equivalent tool for their chosen method of publication. Naturally, 
it should have the attributes of Dreamweaver or Front Page in order to meet 
all the demands which may be required. It shouldn't really be any bigger 
than a word processor and the total package should come in at not a lot more

than 200MB.

Pity that this is too big for Africa and the rural areas of many other 
countries (including the USA) where dial up is on the only access, but those

of us with broadband should be fine. Or maybe we should have several 
different versions with escalating prices in order to meet all the available

customisations.

Please don't think that I am suggesting for one minute, Jim, that this is 
your view, I feel sure that it isn't. In one form or an other this argument 
has been going on for years, so please excuse the rant :-)

Ron Ferguson

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- Original Message - 
From: Jim Walton
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 07 October 2009 20:42
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in 
reports


A pdf file is an image, similar to a jpg file. If it is created from a text 
file it has a text layer that can be indexed and modified, etc. It's quite 
easy to move a text or rtf file into pdf format, but a totally different 
matter to go the other way.

I think the problem is that Legacy is a genealogical tool, not a reporting 
tool. The reporting section is very cumbersome and has no real formatting 
capabilities beyond the bare minimum. It might be better for them to partner

with another company/program for the reporting functions. So far the main 
use I've seen in the report feature is to dump reports to the printer for 
proofreading and database corrections. I could never conceive of using it to

create a document for publication.

I did try to create one rtf report and got a single page that told me I 
could now import into my word processor and create an index because all the 
headings used heading tags. Very convenient, but the rest of the report was 
blank. (grin)

Jim


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The
Index/Indices is shown/printed.  When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) the
Index/Indices are NOT!

If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL
permissible formats!


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Walton
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports


It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the reports you
will see what printing options are available on the right, under the image
of the printer. Family  and descendant will do text, html, and pdf. Pedigree
will only do pdf. Not sure why they aren't available in rtf because it is
certainly

RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

You said:  HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not appearing
as superscripts, and I produce many thousands of  Legacy generated HTML
pages each month.

Individual Report, Family Group Records, Descendant Chart, Ancestor Chart,
and Lineage Chart, all of which have the check box for HTML, and which do
produce Indices in Preview and PDF, do NOT produce Indices in either text or
HTML.

Individual Report and Family Group Records, which allow sources, DO produce
Sources in both HTML and Text.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports

All programs, whether genealogy ones or otherwise, can only produce what is 
allowed by software specifications. For examaple it is not possible to have 
indices in a .txt file, the number itself will appear, but not 
superscripted. Nor will such a file allow diagrams. In general, and I am not

saying always it is restrictions such as these which limit the form of the 
output.

I do not suggest that is the sole reason only mostly! I imagine some are not

available because nobody thought that someone might wish to produce 
something in a format which is never used for that purpose (can't think of 
an example at present though).

RTFs are a constant problem as different programs seem to have different 
interpretations of the specification, so there is a lack of consistency 
between programs - about the only thing which is constant with RTFs :-).

As someone else observed wrt to PDFs the one in question could simply have 
been to big for the PC no matter how much  RAM was available. I've never had

a problem with them, but I am never likely to have 400 pages either.

HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not appearing as 
superscripts, and I produce many thousands of  Legacy generated HTML pages 
each month.

There were problems with Sources when V7 was first released but apart from 
an odd unusual one which crops up occasionally, I would say they have now 
been resolved. All software has their own idiocincracies which to someone 
used to another similar product (and that is not a comment directed at 
yourself, as I have no idea as to your experience with other software) might

be regarded as a bug. I did not, btw, suggest that you were asking for a 
wordprocessor, simply that the discussion was yet again drifting in that 
well documented direction.

Ron Ferguson
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CE Wood wrote:
 I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that,
 when a report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing
 various types of files, that those options be produced in whatever
 format which has a checkbox.

 The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the
 file in your word processor.

 When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume
 that the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e.
 Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF.

 When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you
 assume that when produced in one of the formats with a check box,
 that the indices will be produced when you choose one of those
 formats.

 This does not happen!  The indices are missing!!!

 THAT is what the problem is.


 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
 Behalf Of Ron Ferguson
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:19 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other
 bugs in reports

 Jim,

 Whilst I broadly agree with you comments regarding the Legacy
 reporting (except for the blank page which I have never experienced)
 as I have said before, it is my belief that those asking for what
 would amount to a fully fledged word processor as part of the
 program are asking for far too much. The total size of the package
 would be far too big for many, and why should Legacy reinvent the
 wheel when it is there in Word, Open Office and a number

 of other programs.

 If it is ever done then let us add onto the list a fully fledged web
 page designer, after all, why should the web creation section of
 users be not have an equivalent tool for their chosen method of
 publication. Naturally, it should have the attributes of Dreamweaver
 or Front Page in order to meet all the demands which may be
 required. It shouldn't really be any bigger than a word processor
 and the total package should come in at not a lot

RE: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

This thread is NOT ABOUT SOURCES!!!  You mentioned that Sources WERE in your
HTML files, so I responded to that.

This thread is about INDICES - Name Index and Location Index.

Reached from the pages Individual Report, Family Group Records, etc.,
included in your report or chart by checking the box Index Options

Clicking on Index Options... takes you to the Name Index tab and the
Location Index tab where you can make choices about what each Index will
include.  Checking the box marked Index Options... means you want one or
both Indices (depending what you chose) to be included in your report or
chart.

NO Indices appear in either HTML or Text file, but DO appear in Preview and
PDF.  That is the problem


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other bugs in
reports


Of course the Individual Report, Family Group Records, Descendant Chart, 
Ancestor Chart amd Lineage Chart do not have sources - why should they when 
they don't have Sources, where would they be used?

I have already said in a previous post that .txt files do *not* allow 
superscripts. That is to do with the text format itself.

Ron Ferguson
_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/



CE Wood wrote:
 You said:  HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not
 appearing as superscripts, and I produce many thousands of  Legacy
 generated HTML pages each month.

 Individual Report, Family Group Records, Descendant Chart, Ancestor
 Chart, and Lineage Chart, all of which have the check box for HTML,
 and which do produce Indices in Preview and PDF, do NOT produce
 Indices in either text or HTML.

 Individual Report and Family Group Records, which allow sources, DO
 produce Sources in both HTML and Text.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
 Behalf Of Ron Ferguson
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:51 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format,  other
 bugs in reports

 All programs, whether genealogy ones or otherwise, can only produce
 what is allowed by software specifications. For examaple it is not
 possible to have indices in a .txt file, the number itself will
 appear, but not superscripted. Nor will such a file allow diagrams.
 In general, and I am not

 saying always it is restrictions such as these which limit the form
 of the output.

 I do not suggest that is the sole reason only mostly! I imagine some
 are not

 available because nobody thought that someone might wish to produce
 something in a format which is never used for that purpose (can't
 think of an example at present though).

 RTFs are a constant problem as different programs seem to have
 different interpretations of the specification, so there is a lack
 of consistency between programs - about the only thing which is
 constant with RTFs :-).

 As someone else observed wrt to PDFs the one in question could
 simply have been to big for the PC no matter how much  RAM was
 available. I've never had

 a problem with them, but I am never likely to have 400 pages either.

 HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not appearing as
 superscripts, and I produce many thousands of  Legacy generated HTML
 pages each month.

 There were problems with Sources when V7 was first released but
 apart from an odd unusual one which crops up occasionally, I would
 say they have now been resolved. All software has their own
 idiocincracies which to someone used to another similar product (and
 that is not a comment directed at yourself, as I have no idea as to
 your experience with other software) might

 be regarded as a bug. I did not, btw, suggest that you were asking
 for a wordprocessor, simply that the discussion was yet again
 drifting in that well documented direction.

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 


 CE Wood wrote:
 I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor.  I am asking that,
 when a report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing
 various types of files, that those options be produced in whatever
 format which has a checkbox.

 The simplest would be a text file because then you could format

RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

Making a suggestion never hurts.  Legacy tells us they log them, and the
more requests, the better.

They do read this list, but formal requests are always better.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Alastair Lack
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

Well, thanks everyone for your help.

It's clear that Legacy won't yet do what I want in this respect (hey,
after all is said, it does a million other things!), but I'm sure
after this correspondence the folks at Millennium will be thinking
about it.

Do I need to do anything to push this, or will Sherry/Brian have
picked up on it?

Alastair



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file

[CE Wood]

I had the same problem with a long PDF, and found somewhere, whether on the
Legacy site or somewhere not obvious in Help, that Legacy cannot create long
PDFs.  Probably because of their very outdated PDF version (see recent
thread on that).  You get error messages and Legacy crashes.  No fix
available, and since the PDF function is low on their priority list, as the
recent thread concluded, not likely to use a current version of PDF, so long
PDFs are not possible from within Legacy.

Some on this list suggested buying and installing you own PDF creator.

Sigh.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:15 PM
To: LEGACY
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy unable to lock file

I am trying to create a .pdf (descendant narrative) with LOTS of pictures.
Without the pictures I was unable to create the file easily (it was roughly
800 pages long).
With the pictures, I get a repeated error message that says:
 
Error opening temporary work file.
Error 3050.  Could not lock file. [I have no idea what is meant by locking
a file.]
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
 
I get this message several times, and the number of pages being created
advances to c 3500!  I have a LOT of pictures but I don't think I have THAT
many!!  At that point I am told I am out of memory and  Legacy crashes.
 
I went to Legacy online help, which suggests I run file maintenace, which I
did without a problem.
 
I checked my picture files and all of them are showing up.
 
Legacy Help makes a number of other suggestions, which will be quite
time-consuming) but does not deal specifically with Error #3050, as far as I
can see.
 
After getting the out-of memory message, I restarted my computer and opened
no other programs.   But again got the out of memory message.
 
I have 4gb RAM.  I  have Windows Vista, 64-bit, and keep it updated
automatically.
 
I have Legacy Deuxe 7.0.0.109.
 
I'll appreciate all suggestions!
 
--
Pat
 
 
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[LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, other bugs in reports

[CE Wood]

I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and Lineage
Reports.  When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no option for RTF), the
file is produced without any indices, even though both Name and Location
indices have been selected and do appear in Preview and PDF.

Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only the first
chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include all the chapters.

And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the names from
the first chapter.


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event
pictures print, such as the individual report.

There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT
birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage.  BTW, those are events too, but
not classified as such for picture purpose.

Many reports do not allow a location report to be included.

All reports should have the option to include a location report that
includes the location notes and/or pictures.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

Alastair Lack wrote:
 Thanks to each of you for your help.
 I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including
 locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large
 database.
 My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the
 pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't!
 I think CE is right
 Regards
 Alastair

Alastair,

Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event,

then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother?

Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

Dear Alastair,

For starters, the following are what Legacy needs to do:

Allow a picture for the marriage!  Right now, you cannot attach a picture to
the marriage.
You must create a separate Marriage Event/Fact, called Wedding Photo or
whatever and attach the picture to that!

Individual Report, Descendant Report, Descendant Narrative Report, and
Ancestor Report:
Descendant Chart, Pedigree Chart, Family Group Records:
   Index OptionsLocation Index - Needs to include the option to Include
pictures.

Ancestor Chart:
   Needs to include Individual Dates and Locations option, as Descendant
Chart does, and then...
   Index Options  - Needs to include Location index, as the Descendant Chart
and Pedigree Charts do.

Location Report:
   Options should include the option to Include location pictures.

Event Report:
   Include - Report Style - List Style - Needs to include the option to
Include event location pictures.


As you said, many of us have invested great effort into researching and
linking pictures to locations, and there needs to be a way to print those.
Event pictures do not suffice for several reasons, among which:
   Several events for the same person may occur at the same location, so
rather than allow ONLY an event picture (and marriage is not an event!),
having a Location Index with one picture for each location would be
preferable.  I see event pictures as being pictures of the event itself
-such as a baptism or wedding.


CE



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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Alastair Lack
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

Dear CE,
You've gone into this in much more detail than I have. Could you
please spell it out/detail it a bit more - it would be really helpful
Thankyou
Alastair



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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

But it does not print the LOCATION picture unless you attach the picture to
the event.  And marriage pictures do not print at all unless you add a
separate marriage event and attach the picture to that event.  


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

I disagree. I currently print Individual Reports, and it prints the events
with photos I request. Requests 2-3 have been discussed elsewhere. we just
recieved notice that 4 has been submitted, and probably crossed paths with
this.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:06:06 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

There are several reports in which you cannot choose to have even event
pictures print, such as the individual report.

There are many reports in which only events can have pictures print, but NOT
birth, baptism, death, burial, or marriage.  BTW, those are events too, but
not classified as such for picture purpose.

Many reports do not allow a location report to be included.

All reports should have the option to include a location report that
includes the location notes and/or pictures.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Ferguson
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

Alastair Lack wrote:
 Thanks to each of you for your help.
 I do in fact realise that there is a workaround by including
 locations as events - long and tedious as that would be in a large
 database.
 My fundamental question is how, in a location report, to include the
 pictures. I gather from the replies that I probably can't!
 I think CE is right
 Regards
 Alastair

Alastair,

Just out of interest, if you are not showing where people lived as an Event,

then just how are you showing their residences; or don't you bother?

Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] sorting children

[CE Wood]

This topic was thoroughly discussed recently.  You can find all the
responses in the archives.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Walton
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 2:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] sorting children

Is there a way to do a bulk sort on all children so they appear in
date order? I have a couple of pages (problem report) of families that
need the children sorted and don't relish doing it a family at a time.
Lesson learned: Other family members don't do things like I do, or
GEDCOMs are nice, but can be dangerous to your peace of mind...

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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

It would be so much better if location reports could contain the pictures
because then, when many people have the same location, there would not be
multiple pictures of the same castle/abbey/whatever.  The Location Report,
containing the description and pictures and added to the end of your report
of choice, would be ideal.

Would they really be so hard to include?  The links are already there.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

The trick is to create an Event to put the picture into. Each event will, in
general, print one picture per event. Then you can sort the events, which
will also put them in chronology. Ex: for each residence, you can put the
photo of the building, and sort in date order. The pictures may be too small
at times, but that is a different situation.
Rich in LA CA



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From: Alastair Lack alastairl...@gmail.com
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:31:41 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

I should like to include pictures of locations in my reports.

Apropos of the August posts on the topic, the reason I would like to
do this is that it is part of the location description, along with
lat/long etc. I've gone to a degree of trouble to locate many of these
places, and travelled many miles visiting them. Their pics are happily
attached in the location master file.

I don't think that the previous posts discovered how to include them
in ordinary, eg descendant, reports.

So I've also run a Location Report, but I cannot see how to include
pictures in that either.

Am I missing something, or are location pics not actually reportable
anywhere at present?

Warm regards :-)

Alastair Lack



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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing surname

[CE Wood]

If you want the alternate name(s) to appear in reports, be sure to check the
box Alternate given and surnames usually found at Report Options 
Include.


CE


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jane Sarles
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:04 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing surname

Do both surnames appear in reports?

Jane Sarles
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Ron Ferguson rnldfe...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
Sorry, Jane, but I do not understand your problem here. I have the same
situation with a family called Heyes up to the late 19c and Hayes
thereafter.

I entered the surname as Heyes until it changed and then entered Hayes. This
did mean that sometimes a child had a different name from the parent, and if
both were used by the same person then I used the AKAs.

Ron Ferguson
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Sent: 03 October 2009 17:30
Subject: [LegacyUG] Changing surname



I have a line that started out as having the surname Peter.  Somewhere prior
to today, it became Peters.  Is there a way to have it as Peter up to a
certain point and then convert it to Peters in later generations?

Jane Sarles 


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RE: [LegacyUG] REF file within zipped Legacy Backup

[CE Wood]

Relationships.  On the Backup page, under Data Files, you can specify what
you want backed up.  One of those choices is Relationships.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ken
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] REF file within zipped Legacy Backup

Greetings,

Does anyone on this list know what the REL file represents within Legacy?
I 
recently noticed that the size of my total backup file had dropped from
where it was 
a couple of weeks ago.   When doing a comparison of the files that make up
my current 
backup to those in the earlier one I noted that the REL file which was part
of the 
zipped backup two weeks ago was no longer included in the current zipped
backup. 
Is this serious?

Thanks in advance.

Ken in Ottawa 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy negligent on PDFs

[CE Wood]

Has this Legacy negligence any chance of being solved?

One of Legacy's selling points is the PDF!  If it is so outdated and doesn't
function correctly, that is false advertising.

Have you made a suggestion to Legacy?


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Just a side note here. I opened your PDF and saw nothing more than 2 pages
with a bunch of small images and said to myself No way this is 9 megs!.
So I loaded your file into Adobe Acrobat (full program, not just the Reader)
and examined the document.  The properties indicate that the PDF generator
was ComponentOne PDF generator which is the one utilized by Legacy. I don't
know if this is licensed technology or freeware but I'm continuing to
criticize Legacy for using such an old antiquated version. ComponentOne's
web site no longer even references any products for PDF development. In
fact, the PDF file created by Legacy will be an Acrobat version 3.x while
the latest incarnation from Adobe is version 9.x.

And then the worst thing: I took your 9 meg file and with one mouse click
selected Reduced File Size from within Acrobat. Your original 9 meg file
is now 160k. I've noticed similar results myself here and I'm not sure what
is going on internally but Acrobat also indicates that Legacy produced PFD
files have hidden deleted pages and images.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

[CE Wood]

Most email applications have the ability to create subfolders and have emails 
from a specific address sent directly to that subfolder.  That way they don't 
clutter up your main folder.  Someone on this list kindly imparted the steps to 
do this on MSN, which I use.  I forget now how I did it, but it has been 
wonderful!

CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
William H. Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events

Because when there many, you have to sift through them to find non-genealogy 
related emails.  I'm glad I don't subscribe to the TMG list anymore.  They get 
over 100 emails a day sometimes.

Bill

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Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Source Citation Images to Events


William H. Boswell wrote:

 I do wish they have Digest Mode because this list gets a lot of mail.

Ahem! What's the difference between reading a single digest message 
that's very long and multiple, shorter messages?

-- 
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Mike Fry
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RE: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database

[CE Wood]

Go to Help.  Search RIN takes you to RIN numbers.  Choose Reuse.  All is
described there.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Marilyn Clark
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database

Do RINs get re-used when you delete an individual? I just deleted 2 unlinked
persons and I assumed that their RINs would be gone forever...

Marilyn


--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:12 AM
 DianeLeMasson wrote
  I am still using ver 6
  How do I find out how many entries of people in my
 database?
  I've check the help  the archives, could not find
 anything to this.
  Unless I am not typing in the right search words.
  Do appreciate your help on this, thank you.
 
 Just open the Name List and look at the Title Bar - it will
 say Name List Contains n Individuals.
 
 I'd never noticed that before!  I've always relied on
 looking to see what was the highest RIN.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Christening to Baptism

[CE Wood]

Click Options  Customize  Data Format.  On the right hand side, under Term
for Christening, make your choice.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Laura Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Christening to Baptism

Can someone tell me how to change the CHR for Christening to Baptism?  
Somehow all of my Baptisms have changed to Christening when I moved my 
file to my laptop.  I am on vacation and I cannot find the info in the 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database

[CE Wood]

Click on the Help  General Information.

In the section Content Information, you will find Number of Individuals,
Number of Families, Unique Surnames, and Master Source Entries.


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of DianeLeMasson
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Count of People in Database

Hi

I am still using ver 6
How do I find out how many entries of people in my database?
I've check the help  the archives, could not find anything to this.
Unless I am not typing in the right search words.
Do appreciate your help on this, thank you.

Diane



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RE: [LegacyUG] relationship question

[CE Wood]

How many Blood Relationships and Non-blood relationships have you set for
the search?

A search of LUG will show that there are major problems with Relationship
Calculator.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Doris
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] relationship question

Maybe someone in this LUG could help me solve a problem I am experiencing
with relationship calculator. I learned in FTM that I share multiple
relationships to my mother and all her ancestors because of a marriage
between first cousins back in the late 1700’s. This also would make my
children 10th cousins, 3 times removed. However in Legacy, it isn’t
identifying multiple relationships from my 2nd great grandfather on. It does
however recognize these multiple relationships with all of my 2nd GGF’s
siblings and their descendants as well as for my 3rd GGP’s and back. 

Note I have already done the suggested file maintenance function recommended
by the support team. This didn’t change anything. I honestly started to just
redo my file, thinking it would be a good idea to aid in “cleaning up my
file”, but albeit a smaller file, with 7000 individuals, I quickly got
frustrated with redoing all the re-entry of all the pertinent
data/sources/pictures, etc. 

Any suggestions? 

Doris
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RE: [LegacyUG] relationship question

[CE Wood]

Report this to Legacy Support.

So far, they have not been able to help any of us with similar problems, but
hope springs eternal.

Most of us would also prefer that the relationship shown on the Family and
Pedigree screens was the closet DIRECT relationship rather than the closest
relationship - i.e.  a 5th GGF may also be a 2nd cousin umpteen times
removed, say, but if the 2nd cousin...relationship is closer, THAT is the
one, and we have to click the + sign to get the direct relationship.

A minor detail, but representative of the inattention to our concerns.

Good luck!!  If they finally listen, we will all cheer!


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Doris
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] relationship question

CE,
I currently have it set for 100 Blood and 10 Non Blood relationships. I have
changed it to the defaults and haven't noticed a change. I have noticed that
others in LUG have talked about problems with this particular feature. I am
frustrated that I get the + sign for the parents of my 2GGF and back to
the oldest generations and for his siblings but not for my direct line?


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of CE Wood
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] relationship question

How many Blood Relationships and Non-blood relationships have you set for
the search?

A search of LUG will show that there are major problems with Relationship
Calculator.

CE





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RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the
DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY
relationship possible between them.  As then mentioned, other programs have
had this capability for many years.  Does Legacy?, was asked.  Sherry from
Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship
Calculator instead.  That's when I began posting, because Support has no
answer, and I was hoping LUG would.

The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years
ago - with no resolution or help from Support.

If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report
between two persons, I could count the generations myself!  But there is NO
such capability!

I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct
Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie.
enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual
memory - if your hard drive is big enough?

I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the
blood relationships to be calculated.


Ron Ferguson

_

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_







 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700

 I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
 as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.

 It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
 as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times,
 intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother
is
 shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly,
Relationship
 Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
 is my 28th GGU.

 That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly,
the
 Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I
 said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot
 understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son
who
 is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line
 are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry
 Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
 functions do not deal with the math.

 It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses
the
 program.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents'
lines,
 ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than
you
 expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent.
 Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
 Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
 between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of
 analyzing where the divergences are?
 Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
 line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a
 marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules.
 The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was
 using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I
 eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was
 faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought
a
 external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash'  yet. You may
 need more power. I did.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood 
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later,
 returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or
 numbers, or something).  I forget

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the
DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY
relationship possible between them.  As then mentioned, other programs have
had this capability for many years.  Does Legacy?, was asked.  Sherry from
Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship
Calculator instead.  That's when I began posting, because Support has no
answer, and I was hoping LUG would.

The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years
ago - with no resolution or help from Support.

If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report
between two persons, I could count the generations myself!  But there is NO
such capability!

I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct
Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie.
enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual
memory - if your hard drive is big enough?

I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the
blood relationships to be calculated.


Ron Ferguson

_

New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_







 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700

 I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
 as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.

 It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
 as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times,
 intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother
is
 shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly,
Relationship
 Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
 is my 28th GGU.

 That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly,
the
 Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I
 said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot
 understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son
who
 is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line
 are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry
 Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
 functions do not deal with the math.

 It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses
the
 program.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents'
lines,
 ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than
you
 expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent.
 Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
 Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
 between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of
 analyzing where the divergences are?
 Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
 line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a
 marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules.
 The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was
 using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I
 eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was
 faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought
a
 external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash'  yet. You may
 need more power. I did.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood 
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later,
 returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or
 numbers, or something).  I forget

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

OP is short for Original Poster - the person who started the thread.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Who is OP?  Me?  Mine was the email at the bottom of this miles-long
thread I just snipped.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough
Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd
Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell
McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams 



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:50:46 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the
DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY
relationship possible between them.  

snip



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Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

Access is notorious.  To quote from a programmer who was referring to Legacy
although not the issue at hand, I often have to migrate clients' stuff from
Access to something better because Access crashes when it reaches its
maximum file size, gets incredibly unpredictable when it gets close, and
slows to a crawl when it's about halfway there.

Alas.


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie.
enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual
memory - if your hard drive is big enough?

I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the
blood relationships to be calculated.


Ron Ferguson

_

New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_







 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700

 I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct 
 ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold
is color.

 It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the 
 other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, 
 intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one 
 brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! 
 Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection 
 between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU.

 That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, 
 incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th 
 GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In 
 this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 
 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. 
 Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being 
 my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line 
 Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal
with the math.

 It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering 
 confuses the program.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On 
 Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' 
 lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different 
 colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent.
 Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
 Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are 
 found between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for 
 purposes of analyzing where the divergences are?
 Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since 
 each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a 
 marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules.
 The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I 
 was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, 
 then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found 
 it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same 
 problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had 
 it 'crash'  yet. You may need more power. I did.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours 
 later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many 
 people (or numbers, or something).  I forget the actual wording, 
 because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to 
 have it return the message.  The default may be 999, but not for my 
 file.  Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted.

 Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem.
 Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line 
 Bolding.

 Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 
 would work.  It does not.  That is why I think

Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

Access is notorious.  To quote from a programmer who was referring to Legacy
although not the issue at hand, I often have to migrate clients' stuff from
Access to something better because Access crashes when it reaches its
maximum file size, gets incredibly unpredictable when it gets close, and
slows to a crawl when it's about halfway there.

Alas.


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie.
enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual
memory - if your hard drive is big enough?

I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the
blood relationships to be calculated.


Ron Ferguson

_

New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage
http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_







 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700

 I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct 
 ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold
is color.

 It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the 
 other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, 
 intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one 
 brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! 
 Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection 
 between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU.

 That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, 
 incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th 
 GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In 
 this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 
 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. 
 Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being 
 my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line 
 Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal
with the math.

 It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering 
 confuses the program.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On 
 Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' 
 lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different 
 colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent.
 Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
 Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are 
 found between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for 
 purposes of analyzing where the divergences are?
 Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since 
 each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a 
 marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules.
 The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I 
 was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, 
 then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found 
 it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same 
 problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had 
 it 'crash'  yet. You may need more power. I did.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours 
 later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many 
 people (or numbers, or something).  I forget the actual wording, 
 because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to 
 have it return the message.  The default may be 999, but not for my 
 file.  Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted.

 Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem.
 Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line 
 Bolding.

 Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 
 would work.  It does not.  That is why I think

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

--direct descendent chart

 It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If
 there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which
 should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to
 Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither
 confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I
 didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors.
 Sorry if I missunderstand the issue.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood 
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR
 WORKED!  My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
 explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator,
nor
 a solution.  Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Sherry/Support
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
 worksheet.  Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
 forms for you to fill out.

 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!

 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
 Thanks.


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Paula Ryburn
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
 application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the
 lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
 one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my
mother
 and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
 would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
 and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
 way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
 Thanks,
 --Paula




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RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

I have no problem with Ancestry Colors.  The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
as is his brother.  Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.

It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
as a GGU.  Because of generations marrying at different times,
intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is
shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU!  Accordingly, Relationship
Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
is my 28th GGU.

That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the
Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both).  As I
said, Legacy has a problem with the math.  In this case, it cannot
understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who
is both a 26th and a 28th GGF.  Accordingly, all the children in his line
are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator.  Ancestry
Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
functions do not deal with the math.

It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the
program.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines,
ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you
expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. 
Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of 
analyzing where the divergences are?
Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a
marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. 
The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was
using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I
eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was
faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a
external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash'  yet. You may
need more power. I did.
Rich in LA CA
 


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later,
returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or
numbers, or something).  I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling
to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message.  The
default may be 999, but not for my file.  Over many Legacy versions, the
same problem has persisted.

Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem.
Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line
Bolding.

Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would
work.  It does not.  That is why I think it is a mathematical problem -
Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA.


And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the
OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who
cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart


Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you
limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29
generations you will exceed that number by far.


The default is, of course, 999.

Ron Ferguson

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 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700

 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that
 this problem is an very old one.


 FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700

 Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that
 this problem is an very old one.


 FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO
 AN
 EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO:

 It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the
 ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter
 of
 a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter,
who
 IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even
in
 the additional relationships!

 At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise
 then
 to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of
 course
 then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at
 least
 Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now.





 PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO:

 Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless
 times
 as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle.

 Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded,
 preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is
 finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I
suspect
 that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband
 was
 29th GGF.

 Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my
incorrectly
 calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the
 Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough!

 Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the
 2nd
 GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the
 intervening ancestors not direct ancestors.

 Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th
 GGU,
 is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM,
 BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th
 GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly
 calculated as 28th GGU.

 Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can
all
 find that relationship; just not the Calculator!

 I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT
 is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do.
I'll
 bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST
 relationship,
 it could calculate correctly.

 Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others
 reported
 YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations
 when
 they get complicated!!!


 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people.
If
 there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging
which
 should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to
 Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither
 confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I
 didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors.
 Sorry if I missunderstand the issue.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP
CALCULATOR
 WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
 explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator,
 nor
 a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of Sherry/Support
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
 worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
 forms for you to fill out.

 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!

 When replying to this message, please include all previous
correspondence.
 Thanks.


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of Paula Ryburn
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

 This reminds me of a need I had a while back

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

The chart wanted is a DIRECT descent from one person to another - something
Legacy does not provide.  A suggestion was made to the OP to use
Relationship Calculator instead.

My responses have been to the danger with doing that because Relationship
Calculator has a serious problem that Legacy has been unable to deal with.

Trying to create a direct descent chart from my aforementioned ancestor
would be impossible for Legacy because, according to Relationship
Calculator, I am not a direct descendant of his.

Legacy, being unable to reliably calculate relationships, cannot reliably
create descent or ancestry charts.  So using Relationship Calculator is not
a viable solution to the direct descent chart missing from Legacy.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at
all. What chart are you creating?  It sounds like you are using Relationship
Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify.
(I guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or
the legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use.
I had a document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but
I lent it to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It
dealt mostly in the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance
issues of royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting
quirks in the rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to
find a similar document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have
them in my DB, I can compare your report to mine. Send privately.
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I have no problem with Ancestry Colors.  The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor,
as is his brother.  Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color.

It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other
as a GGU.  Because of generations marrying at different times,
intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is
shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU!  Accordingly, Relationship
Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists
is my 28th GGU.

That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the
Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both).  As I
said, Legacy has a problem with the math.  In this case, it cannot
understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who
is both a 26th and a 28th GGF.  Accordingly, all the children in his line
are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator.  Ancestry
Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two
functions do not deal with the math.

It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the
program.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines,
ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you
expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. 
Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines?
Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found
between the 2 people.  Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of 
analyzing where the divergences are?
Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each
line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a
marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. 
The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was
using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I
eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was
faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a
external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash'  yet. You may
need more power. I did.
Rich in LA CA
 


- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later,
returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy!  It IS an important aspect to
genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen
years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Terri Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you
described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for
Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging
each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula

 


- Original Message 
From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

Exactly right, Valerie.  Thanks for explaining it better than I could.
Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing.
Chick

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowskilask...@att.net wrote:
 No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and
 having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route.
 The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature.

 At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have
to
 make one for myself to see if it matches.
 Valerie

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of John S. Adams
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

 Chick,
 Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting
 couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and
 spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line,
ggrandchildren
 on the fourth, etc.  In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant
Chart
 type.

 By direct descendant chart, do you mean the chart described above
without
 showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.?

 John S. Adams
 Hermosa Beach, CA

 --
 From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

 John,

 Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families.  That
 method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact,
 I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4
 generations at a time.  I am not sure I know what a drop-down
 descendant chart is.  Is it printable in a book or a web page?

 FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I
 rather not go back to it.  Does anyone know if one of the Legacy
 add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart?

 Chick


 On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adamsoldbr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 Chick,

 I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or
 box
 descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu.

 You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart
 with
 Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first
 chart
 would show the starting couple with all their children and children's
 spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then
 a
 chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired
 number of generations. The number of pages required would of course
 depend
 on the number of generations and the number of children in each
 generation.

 Is this what you're looking for?

 John S. Adams
 Hermosa Beach, CA

 --
 From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:26 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books

 Alastair,
 Thank you for your response. I am not ready to publish as yet. I am
 still 

RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR
WORKED!  My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor
a solution.  Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
worksheet.  Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
forms for you to fill out.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the
lineage between me and my Patriot.  The Lineage report now just starts at
one end and goes through the male line.  I my lineage went through my mother
and her mother, then all men.  Does this sound line anything anyone else
would use?  It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse
and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its
way through men and women).  Think I might just make a suggestion...
Thanks,
--Paula





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RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

[CE Wood]

Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that
this problem is an very old one.


FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN
EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO:

It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the
ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of
a 26th GGancestor.  The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who
IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother  -  not even in
the additional relationships!

At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then
to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead.  Of course
then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least
Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now.





PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO:

Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10:  Bernard is listed countless times
as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle.

Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded,
preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is
finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM.  But I suspect
that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was
29th GGF.

Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly
calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated.  There is a flaw in the
Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough!

Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd
GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the
intervening ancestors not direct ancestors.

Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU,
is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM,
BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th
GGU.  He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly
calculated as 28th GGU.

Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all
find that relationship; just not the Calculator!

I really don't care about the extraneous relationships.  What is IMPORTANT
is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll
bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship,
it could calculate correctly.  

Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported
YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations when
they get complicated!!!


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If
there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which
should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to
Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither
confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I
didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors.
Sorry if I missunderstand the issue.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR
WORKED!  My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an
explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor
a solution.  Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Sherry/Support
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a
worksheet.  Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own
forms for you to fill out.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart

This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR
application.  I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to know the
lineage

RE: [LegacyUG] Bold Names

[CE Wood]

Click on ToolsSet Direct Line as Preferred.  Make sure you have yourself in
the box, clicking on Change, if necessary.  Then click on Set Preferred
Line.


CE


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Rita Lynn McKale
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bold Names

After a really lucky weekend at the historical society, I was entering new
direct line ancestors and noticed they did not appear in bold type as my
other ancestors do.  I checked and I still have the Indicate direct-line
children in lists (bold) checked, in the data entry tab.  I don't remember
ever having to do anything else to see the new names in bold……
I'm using Vista 64bit and Legacy 7.0.0.109.

Thanks,
Rita in South Carolina
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RE: [LegacyUG] Bold Names

[CE Wood]

It does not do it automatically.  If you want new entries to be bolded,
after your enter them, you must do as I said in my last email


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Rita Lynn McKale
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bold Names

Robert,
This fixed the names I just entered, but when I entered a couple more new
direct ancestors, again the name was not in bold. 
Rita

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Carneal USA
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Bold Names

Ok, this doesn't explain what happened, but it might fix it. Go to:

1. The preferred person first.
2. Tools  Set Relationships, and CLEAR all the relationships.
3. Tools  Set Relationships, and SET the relationships.
4. Tools  Set Direct Line as Preferred, and set the line.

This should fix it. If not, let us know.

Robert


At 2009-09-13  08:02 PM, you wrote:
After a really lucky weekend at the historical 
society, I was entering new direct line 
ancestors and noticed they did not appear in 
bold type as my other ancestors do.  I checked 
and I still have the Indicate direct-line 
children in lists (bold) checked, in the data 
entry tab.  I don't remember ever having to do 
anything else to see the new names in bold..
I'm using Vista 64bit and Legacy 7.0.0.109.

Thanks,
Rita in South Carolina



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to do a direct line report

[CE Wood]

You can print out what Relationship Calculator gives you, but be aware that
it is not trustworthy.  Whether it is a database issue, a mathematical
issue, or whatever, Relationships are not reliably set correctly, as many
postings to LUG have mentioned for at least 6 years now.

Set Direct Line and Ancestor Color Coding do work; Set Relationships, and
thus Relationship Calculator, do not.

It is a pain, but the only reliable way is to laboriously create your own
direct descent or ascent, the latter being the most troublesome because of
the generational inconsistencies where what it has calculated to be a 26th
GGancestor is the parent of a 25th as well as, say, a 28th GG ancestor.
Can’t compute.


CE Wood



From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Noddie
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:48 PM
To: Legacy user group
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to do a direct line report

Hi
I am sure this has been covered on the forum, and if so I apologize.

I am wanting to do a direct line only report or printout so I can see which
of my main descendants I can
target for missing information.  Is this possible and how would I easily go
about it.

Thanks heaps for any help
Regards
Gwen 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Master source question

[CE Wood]

So what do you do when you have several thousand references to a source,
such as the Complete Peerage?  Do you not have Complete Peerage as a Master
Source with specific volumes and pages in Details, but several thousand all
with different volumes and pages?


CE Wood


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of michael barberi
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

I am always reluctant, perhaps based on ignorance, to use the same Master
Source for each individual.  I always like to guard against an inadvertent
computer error, that might corrupt or mix up the source detail of
individuals that are associated with one Master Source.  I may not be
following an intelligent sourcing method but each Source to me is
different.  Somethings it is just a year as in The Civil Birth Records 1888
of Cerreto Sannita, Italy (different years make for a different source;
although I can see why this may not be correct).  I am open to education.
 If I am not following the method that everyone else uses, or if my concerns
over potential problems are over-done,  let me know.

Mike Barberi
 
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)



From: John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Cc: jusen...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 4:05:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

Judy,
The Master Source should be the same for each individual.  The differences
should be entered in the Detail screen.  After you create the Master Source
with the common information for the letter, select that for as the source
for the first individual and enter the text for him in the Source Detail
screen.  For the next individual, select the same source, but change the
Detail text.  Thus, for each individual, the Master Source info will be the
same, but the Detail text will be different.

Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

--
From: Judy jusen...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master source question

 I have a question about master sources. I am a new user, and am adding
some
 new people to my file. I have a document (a letter) which I want to use as
a
 master source for these new people.
 
 So I created a master source, and started inputting the pertinent text for
 each person as I went along.
 
 However, I find that this seems to be a snowballing effect...the text for
 the last person reappears for the new person and so on.
 
 How do I create a master source, such as a document, that is used for
 multiple people, and just refer to the part that pertains to a certain
 individual in that individual's source?
 
 Judy
 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Divorces

[CE Wood]

Unfortunately, the Descendant Chart does not allow you to check mark the
marriage status.

So she is absolutely correct - the divorce is not able to be noted, and so
it seems the couple is still married!


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Fowler Leek
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Divorces

Paula,
 
Other list members have helped you with the status notice on the marriage
information screen but be certain to also place a check mark by the marriage
status in the report options if you haven't already done this.
 
Mary
- Original Message - 
From: Paula Rothstein 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Divorces

How do you show that someone has been divorced? I am printing a descendant
chart and it is still showing that the two people are married and they are
divorced.
Paula
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[CE Wood]

Maybe not - just insert your CD before using Legacy.  I think it will then
be able to find them.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Amy
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures

Thanks to both of you!  I was trying to keep from using up a lot of memory
by keeping pics on CD's.  Guess, for Legacy anyway, I'll need to put them
back on.  
AMY
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

[CE Wood]

At least give us the option to print the Event Address pictures and notes.
A foot or end note could be attached to the address when we opt to include
them.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:11 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations




 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:28:03 +0100
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures of Locations

 ronald ferguson wrote
Whilst being able to reproduce such photos in reports has obvious
benefits, I think we hit the same problem as those with Address images,
just where do they go.

It is possible for Legacy to set the order in each report, but from the
history of this list I can image the problems this would cause :-). I
have yet to hear any suggestion from any user as to where they may go.

 Ok, I'll make a suggestion, then! It's currently possible to print a
 Report with Event pictures alongside each Event by selecting an option.
 Perhaps there could be increased options:
 Print no pictures
 Print Event and Location pictures
 Print only Event pictures
 Print only Location pictures
 Print either Event or Location pictures (where only 1 or the other is
 present)

 Ideally, when printing Reports Event would include the major life
 events so that pictures attached to Births, Marriages etc would print.

 Of course, I realise that all this will be far too much to ask of the
 programmers so it's just my pipe dream!
 --
 Jenny M Benson



I knew you would come up with something Jenny ;-). I don't think that I
would use it myself, as I much prefer to add all, except the individuals'
pictures, in OpenOffice (more often in web pages of course) so that I have
absolute control of the positioning.
 
Very often I prefer these pictures to be with the Sources rather than the
main text, though.

Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Stuff

[CE Wood]

The wonderful strength of Legacy is its capability for allowing so many
options!!

Having more options is the ideal.  Many of us have abandoned other programs
because they were too constrained and forced us to do things their way.
You are under no obligation to use any addresses or locations or notes or
pictures or anything else, but many want to do just that.

What most of us are asking is that all the information that we painstakingly
enter be able to be printed out.  For instance, I have information about and
photos of the abbeys where many were born, married, buried, etc; I have
photos of specific houses where people lived; et alia.

For the most part, having the city, county, country (whatever is the
standard for the particular country) is fine.  I make exceptions, as I say,
for abbeys, cathedrals, castles, and the like in which many events occurred.

But there are times when I want a detailed address, such as the house that
my great-grandparents built.  I want the specific street address, if
applicable, the latitude and longitude, notes about it, and photos.  I put
those specific addresses in Event Addresses rather than Locations.

Unfortunately, none of the notes and photos for Event Addresses is useable,
and photos for Locations are not either.  It would be such a blessing if
there were some way that everything entered could be printed out.  Since
Support has said they don't know where to put such, the simplest solution
might be to annotate those fields and allow the notes and photos to be in
the footnotes or endnotes.  Then they don't clog up the main report.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of michael barberi
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Location Stuff

I have been following all the emails about location and address issues. 
Please realize that I am relatively new to Legacy.  Frankly, I have not used
the notes, address and location icons that appear next to birth,
christening, death and burial that appear on the individual's record page. 
However, it seems to me that adding an address or location for every type of
life event is a terrible Legacy design.  From my point of view, what is
important to know about an ancestor is his/her residence historyfrom
birth to deathall located in one place, including photos and printable. 
I totally agree with many of the suggestions offered about a Legacy
capability to pictures (of houses, grave-sites, neighborhoods, etc)
associated with specific Events/Facts.  However, adding an address and
location separately for each life event (like birth, christening, death,
burial, years during marriage, naturalization, immigration etc) loses the
importance of the bigger picture about address and location.  Of course,
you have to have a location for a birth etc., but I am talking about a
different and larger need.  

If I am off-course, I welcome other opinions, constructive criticism and
education.  

Mike Barberi
 
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)



From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:13:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] a new way to wreck your database

Jim,

I was entering a problem report on this since I think Legacy should have
given you some warning that selecting a new location from the GEO Data Base
would change all the locations that used that place.

As I was going through your steps I found that there is an intermediate
screen between the GEO Database Selection and the return to the individual
edit screen. That intermediate screen is titled Merge Location and has the
original location from the Master Location List and the new location from
the Geo DB. It is the Save button on that screen that changes your Master
Location List name from the original to the newly selected name and does not
warn that all uses of the Master List name will be changed.

I have submitted a problem report with the suggestion that the user needs to
be warned or that there should be an option on the Merge Location screen to
ADD the selected location as a new Master Location.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Thanks.

Jimquist wrote:
 There is no question in this post - just a heads up for other users
 Sometime between my backup of 6/27 and 7/2, I discovered the town where my
 great grandmother was born.  Previously, only the state of Missouri was
 known.
 So, I merrily went to the birth location field where the state was showing
 and figuring I'd kill several birds with one stone (obtain the county name
 and get 

RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

[CE Wood]

On July 9, 2009, I submitted a suggestion to Legacy asking that Event
Address Notes be printable.

Sherry replied, 
Not sure where the notes would go.  I don't expect you'd want a long
narrative right after the address?
I'll pass this on to the programmers to ponder on.

Giving us the option of deciding where is just too hard for them, I guess,
but at least Sherry passed the request along.  Why they ever include
something you can't possibly print out is beyond me.  So much effort
expended inputting the information only to find we can't get it out!

Sigh.


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of GeoSci
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

Valerie,
  That can give me the Burial Address - a good start!  Now burial
notes...? (where I have the Find-A-Grave Number recorded).  anyone??
Keith

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Valerie Laskowskilask...@att.net wrote:
 Click on the Names list; click Print.  Now select the columns you
want.
 You also have a customize selection; and 3 rows worth of availability.
 Hit the Preview button to check it.
 Valerie

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:34 PM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Anyone found a way to print Burial Notes?  Or - Burial Address?  They
 are there - and they will print in some reports - but I would like a
 list showing NAME - Birth Date - Death Date - Burial address - Burial
 Notes

 Ideas?
 Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

[CE Wood]

Of course Event Notes can be printed, but he was referring to Event ADDRESS
Notes.  Those cannot be printed.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:56 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


Mike,
 
Event Notes can be printed



Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:49:01 -0700
 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



 CE:

 I am with you on printing EVENT NOTES. I created an Event called
Residence History. I summarize by year the address history of an ancestor
from Italian, US Census and US City Directories. It is a short concise
listing of where a person resided over his lifetime.

 I don't know of another place in Legacy to document, concisely in one
place, a Residence History.

 Mike

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
 In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
 St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)


 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:22:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


 On July 9, 2009, I submitted a suggestion to Legacy asking that Event
 Address Notes be printable.

 Sherry replied,
 Not sure where the notes would go. I don't expect you'd want a long
 narrative right after the address?
 I'll pass this on to the programmers to ponder on.

 Giving us the option of deciding where is just too hard for them, I guess,
 but at least Sherry passed the request along. Why they ever include
 something you can't possibly print out is beyond me. So much effort
 expended inputting the information only to find we can't get it out!

 Sigh.


 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:39
 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Valerie,
 That can give me the Burial Address - a good start! Now burial
 notes...? (where I have the Find-A-Grave Number recorded). anyone??
 Keith

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
 Click on the Names list; click Print. Now select the columns you
 want.
 You also have a customize selection; and 3 rows worth of availability.
 Hit the Preview button to check it.
 Valerie

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:34 PM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Anyone found a way to print Burial Notes? Or - Burial Address? They
 are there - and they will print in some reports - but I would like a
 list showing NAME - Birth Date - Death Date - Burial address - Burial
 Notes

 Ideas?
 Keith

 --
 Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry

 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com
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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

[CE Wood]

Event Addresses are NOT locations.  They are Event Addresses.  They can be
accessed by either clicking the + to the right of the Event or by going to
MasterAddress ListsEvent, which is where all those addresses entered by
clicking the + are stored.

Legacy has a tab for Notes there.  Whatever notes are entered there are NOT
able to be printed.


CE


From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of michael barberi
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

Thanks Ron for clarifying this issue better.  I guess I was confused over
CE's email saying that Event Address Notes cannot be printed.  He must have
been referring to the Address Notes that are an icon for Birth, Christening,
Death, Burial.  If so, he can create a separate Events/Notes for Residence
Addresses.

Mike
 
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. 
In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. 
St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)



From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:56:27 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


Mike,

Event Notes can be printed



Ron Ferguson

_

Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:49:01 -0700
 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



 CE:

 I am with you on printing EVENT NOTES. I created an Event called
Residence History. I summarize by year the address history of an ancestor
from Italian, US Census and US City Directories. It is a short concise
listing of where a person resided over his lifetime.

 I don't know of another place in Legacy to document, concisely in one
place, a Residence History.

 Mike

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
 In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
 St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)


 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:22:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


 On July 9, 2009, I submitted a suggestion to Legacy asking that Event
 Address Notes be printable.

 Sherry replied,
 Not sure where the notes would go. I don't expect you'd want a long
 narrative right after the address?
 I'll pass this on to the programmers to ponder on.

 Giving us the option of deciding where is just too hard for them, I guess,
 but at least Sherry passed the request along. Why they ever include
 something you can't possibly print out is beyond me. So much effort
 expended inputting the information only to find we can't get it out!

 Sigh.


 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:39
 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Valerie,
 That can give me the Burial Address - a good start! Now burial
 notes...? (where I have the Find-A-Grave Number recorded). anyone??
 Keith

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
 Click on the Names list; click Print. Now select the columns you
 want.
 You also have a customize selection; and 3 rows worth of availability.
 Hit the Preview button to check it.
 Valerie

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:34 PM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Anyone found a way to print Burial Notes? Or - Burial Address? They
 are there - and they will print in some reports - but I would like a
 list showing NAME - Birth Date - Death Date - Burial address - Burial
 Notes

 Ideas?
 Keith

 --
 Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry

 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com
 McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1



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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

[CE Wood]

Then Legacy should make that VERY clear - that any effort expended putting
notes into Event Address Notes is futile.

Actually, they should remove the tab to prevent confusion.

They are good at removing capabilities that are quite useful, such as
multiple sourcing, because some people couldn't figure out how to use them
even though many of us now have to spend inordinate amounts of time entering
multiple sources because some people couldn't figure out how to use it
correctly.  At least that was the explanation from Legacy for why they
removed such a useful tool.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


Mike,
 
No problem, it is easy to mix the two up. I must say that that I sympathise
with Legacy about the Address options (which, by the way I only use for
addresses etc. of living people, and sources - ie basically a mailing list).
 
Like Sherry says, I would not have a clue how the various ways in which
people use them could be accomodated in reports and/or web pages.



Ron Ferguson

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Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:02:43 -0700
 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



 Thanks Ron for clarifying this issue better. I guess I was confused over
CE's email saying that Event Address Notes cannot be printed. He must have
been referring to the Address Notes that are an icon for Birth, Christening,
Death, Burial. If so, he can create a separate Events/Notes for Residence
Addresses.

 Mike

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
 In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
 St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)


 
 From: ronald ferguson
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:56:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?



 Mike,

 Event Notes can be printed



 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 
 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:49:01 -0700
 From: michaelbarb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial
 Notes?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



 CE:

 I am with you on printing EVENT NOTES. I created an Event called
Residence History. I summarize by year the address history of an ancestor
from Italian, US Census and US City Directories. It is a short concise
listing of where a person resided over his lifetime.

 I don't know of another place in Legacy to document, concisely in one
place, a Residence History.

 Mike

 In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas.
 In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love.
 St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430)


 
 From: CE Wood
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:22:25 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?


 On July 9, 2009, I submitted a suggestion to Legacy asking that Event
 Address Notes be printable.

 Sherry replied,
 Not sure where the notes would go. I don't expect you'd want a long
 narrative right after the address?
 I'll pass this on to the programmers to ponder on.

 Giving us the option of deciding where is just too hard for them, I
guess,
 but at least Sherry passed the request along. Why they ever include
 something you can't possibly print out is beyond me. So much effort
 expended inputting the information only to find we can't get it out!

 Sigh.



 CE

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:39
 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Notes?

 Valerie,
 That can give me the Burial Address - a good start! Now burial
 notes...? (where I have the Find-A-Grave Number recorded). anyone??
 Keith

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote:
 Click on the Names list; click Print. Now select the columns you
 want.
 You
 also have a customize selection; and 3 rows worth

RE: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

[CE Wood]

Legacy has coded the names so that Word can create the Name Index.  In the
RTF Descendant Book Report, under Name Index, it says:

[Note:  Using your word processor, generate an Index here.]
[All names have been marked as index entries in this document.]
[Erase these three lines.]

In Word 2007, click on the References tab and Insert Index, and it will
appear.  You can format it how you wish, being Word.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ruth Nerud
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:26 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

Do you know if allowing Alternate Names to be included in the Name Index is 
still on the wish list for Descendent Book Reports in Word?
Ruth Nerud
baber...@worldnet.att.net
- Original Message - 
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries


 There are only two that I know of - the same sex relationships and 
 Unicode.

 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!

 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
 Thanks.


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 Of Bob
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:24 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

 For years we have been hearing that many often requested features would
 require a complete rewrite.  There must be quite a list by now.  The
 only thing we've never heard is just when this complete rewrite will be
 happening.  Or even when it will get started.  I doubt very much that it
 will be Legacy 8, so will it be in 5 years, 10 years?





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RE: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

[CE Wood]

I did just as you, creating the report in Publishing Center.  

On the Contents tab, Descendant Report is highlighted.
On the Additional tab, the box by Index Options is checked.  Click on Index
Options.  On the Name Index tab, check the box by Include a Name Index and
the box by Include Alternate Names.  Choose whatever other options you want
here.  Click OK.

Create the RTF.

In Word 2007, click on the References tab.  Once in the Reference toolbar,
click on Insert Index, and it will appear.  You can format it how you wish,
being Word.

All my names, regular and alternate appear.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ruth Nerud
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

Robert, I have BOTH checked. This has been reported and acknowledged as a 
bug by Legacy staff. You aren't doing what I am. Go to BooksPublishing 
CenterDescendant Report. Create a book in .rtf format. When it opens up in 
Word, go to OptionsView. Check All under Formatting marks. Go back to your 
report. You'll see coding for names so they show up in the Name List, but 
there is no coding for Alternate Names. It will only say. Emily is usually 
called Emmy - no coding. I'm just wondering if it will ever be fixed.
Ruth
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries


Ruth-

Do you have the deluxe version?  Alternate names
in the name index shows up in my Legacy. I went to:
Reports  Reports Menu  Books/Other  Descendants button.

Make sure the Index Options is checked, and
click Index Options. Make sure that BOTH
Include a Name Index and Include alternate
names are checked. It should work for you then.

Robert

At 2009-08-10  01:26 PM, you wrote:
Do you know if allowing Alternate Names to be included in the Name Index is

still on the wish list for Descendent Book Reports in Word?
Ruth Nerud
baber...@worldnet.att.net
- Original Message - From: Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries


There are only two that I know of - the same sex relationships and 
Unicode.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Bob
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

For years we have been hearing that many often requested features would
require a complete rewrite.  There must be quite a list by now.  The
only thing we've never heard is just when this complete rewrite will be
happening.  Or even when it will get started.  I doubt very much that it
will be Legacy 8, so will it be in 5 years, 10 years?





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[LegacyUG] RE: [Legacy UG] Alternate Names in RTF Descendant Book from Publishing Center

[CE Wood]

I did just as you, creating the report in Publishing Center.  

On the Contents tab, Descendant Report is highlighted.
On the Additional tab, the box by Index Options is checked.  Click on Index
Options.  On the Name Index tab, check the box by Include a Name Index and
the box by Include Alternate Names.  Choose whatever other options you want
here.  Click OK.

Create the RTF.

In Word 2007, click on the References tab.  Once in the Reference toolbar,
click on Insert Index, and it will appear.  You can format it how you wish,
being Word.

All my names, regular and alternate appear.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ruth Nerud
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

Robert, I have BOTH checked. This has been reported and acknowledged as a
bug by Legacy staff. You aren't doing what I am. Go to BooksPublishing 
CenterDescendant Report. Create a book in .rtf format. When it opens up 
Centerin
Word, go to OptionsView. Check All under Formatting marks. Go back to your
report. You'll see coding for names so they show up in the Name List, but
there is no coding for Alternate Names. It will only say. Emily is usually
called Emmy - no coding. I'm just wondering if it will ever be fixed.
Ruth
- Original Message -
From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries


Ruth-

Do you have the deluxe version?  Alternate names in the name index shows up
in my Legacy. I went to:
Reports  Reports Menu  Books/Other  Descendants button.

Make sure the Index Options is checked, and click Index Options. Make
sure that BOTH Include a Name Index and Include alternate names are
checked. It should work for you then.

Robert

At 2009-08-10  01:26 PM, you wrote:
Do you know if allowing Alternate Names to be included in the Name 
Index is still on the wish list for Descendent Book Reports in Word?
Ruth Nerud
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RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

[CE Wood]

What happens if, rather than checking M or F, you check ? for the sex
of each partner?  Not ideal, obviously, but does it work?


CE

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Relationship Entries

would [it] be possible to register such Civil Unions... of the same
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RE: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question

[CE Wood]

On Hannah's Individual Information Screen, add the Event - Adoption.  Enter
the information you have regarding the adoption.

The indication that she has two sets of parents is on the Family View
Screen.  Under her information on that screen, there are icons, one of which
is Parents (a couple with white hair).  If you have entered her as a child
of both sets of parents, there will be a box to the lower left of the
Parents icon that will have a 2 in it.

When you click on the Parents icon, she will have two sets of parents shown.
There are boxes at the bottom of that Parents Screen:  Child Status,
Relationship to Father, and Relationship to Mother.  For each highlighted
set of parents, enter the appropriate from the drop-down list.

In the Descendant Book Report for any one of the 4 parents, she will show.
At her generation level, the Event of her adoption will also show.  You
should also experiment with the Report OptionsInclude Tab for the report,
on which there are options to include Child Status and/or Child-parent
relationships.


CE

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Of Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adoption Question

Using Legacy Deluxe 7.0.0.9.  Neither Help nor Customize give any clues, so
 . .

I have a child with known birth parents (the Browns) and known adoptive
parents (the Petries).  There may be a relationship between the two couples,
but that is currently unknown.  I've entered the child (Hannah Brown) as a
daughter of both sets of parents and noted her Child Status as Adopted by
the Petries.  The only place I see any indication of the adoption is on the
Assigned Sources screen for Hannah and on the panel next to the Name List
(buried under the Family tab).  There's nothing I can see that appears on
Hannah's Individual Information screen to indicate she had two sets of
parents, and nothing prints in Descendant Book Reports for either set of
parents regarding the adoptive situation.  Is there a flag, icon, or a
setting somewhere that I'm not seeing?  I don't want to lose track of this
situation and would like to see it noted somehow in the Descendant Book
Report.  Is that possible?

Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

[CE Wood]

Unfortunately, although you can display other columns, according to Legacy and 
experience, sorting is available for Surname, Given, or RIN/User ID.

From HELP:
Sorting the List
The Index View can be displayed in either surname, given name order, or RIN 
number.  Click the Surname, Given or RIN button at the top of the window, or 
click in the Surname, Given or RIN box.  The list is then redisplayed in that 
order.

It may be the Deluxe version only that allows sorting by User ID instead of by 
RIN - I have Deluxe, which allows that, so I don't know what the free version 
allows.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Fry
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

Ruth Nerud wrote:
 I see where I can sort by RIN/ID, Given Name or Surname, but I don't see 
 where I can sort by birth date.

Above the main data grid, there's an Options button. Click it and get a 
list of things you can do. Choose Customize columns and you'll see a 
dialog in which you can choose which columns you can have displayed in 
*your* version of the Index Tab.

Once you've organised the display the way you want it, clicking on a 
column header allows you to sort the display by the data in that column.

-- 
Regards,
Mike Fry
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[LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

[CE Wood]

I am again having relationship problems with the database.

Bad enough that the relationship that shows in Family View and o Pedigree
View are not the direct relationship but the closest relationship.  Many
agree with me that THAT should be the default or, at the VERY least, an
option!

However, I now have ancestors that are listed as NOT direct ancestors by
Relationship Setting or Calculating.
They are correctly shown as direct ancestors by Ancestor Colors and by
direct ancestor tagging.

I have a 29th GGF and GGM who had two children.  One is shown as 28th GGM,
but her full brother is shown as 28th GGU and his wife as Wife of 28th GGU.
Right clicking on the + next to the Relationship to see other relationships
does not list as another relationship the fact that they are my 28th GGF and
29th GGM.  And, all their descendants are incorrectly calculated by
Relationship Calculator!

I have my Relationship Calculator set to find the closest 20 relationships
and closest 2 paths, as Brian had me do when I last had this problem.

It must be a bug if Ancestor Colors and Ancestor Tagging can make them
direct ancestors but Relationship Calculator cannot.

Anyone help?


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

[CE Wood]

So, I set closest relationships to 1 and have the same problem.  Seems that
even though I am a direct descendant of both the brother and sister,
Relationship Calculator won't allow that.  The brother is a 28th GGU, the
sister a 28th GGM.

Granted, depending on the intervening generations, they might each be a
different number of GGF and GGM, but they should BOTH be calculated as
direct ancestors by the Calculator.

As I said, Ancestor Colors, Indicate Direct Line (bolding), and Ancestor
Tagging work correctly.  It is just the Calculator that can't do it.  Is a
fix in the works?


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

I am again having relationship problems with the database.

Bad enough that the relationship that shows in Family View and o Pedigree
View are not the direct relationship but the closest relationship.  Many
agree with me that THAT should be the default or, at the VERY least, an
option!

However, I now have ancestors that are listed as NOT direct ancestors by
Relationship Setting or Calculating.
They are correctly shown as direct ancestors by Ancestor Colors and by
direct ancestor tagging.

I have a 29th GGF and GGM who had two children.  One is shown as 28th GGM,
but her full brother is shown as 28th GGU and his wife as Wife of 28th GGU.
Right clicking on the + next to the Relationship to see other relationships
does not list as another relationship the fact that they are my 28th GGF and
29th GGM.  And, all their descendants are incorrectly calculated by
Relationship Calculator!

I have my Relationship Calculator set to find the closest 20 relationships
and closest 2 paths, as Brian had me do when I last had this problem.

It must be a bug if Ancestor Colors and Ancestor Tagging can make them
direct ancestors but Relationship Calculator cannot.

Anyone help?


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

[CE Wood]

Another quirk.  When I set the blood relationships to closest 1 and
non-blood to any number, the ancestors specified in the first case are no
longer related.  What?  That parameter was not changed!


CE


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Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

I am again having relationship problems with the database.

Bad enough that the relationship that shows in Family View and o Pedigree
View are not the direct relationship but the closest relationship.  Many
agree with me that THAT should be the default or, at the VERY least, an
option!

However, I now have ancestors that are listed as NOT direct ancestors by
Relationship Setting or Calculating.
They are correctly shown as direct ancestors by Ancestor Colors and by
direct ancestor tagging.

I have a 29th GGF and GGM who had two children.  One is shown as 28th GGM,
but her full brother is shown as 28th GGU and his wife as Wife of 28th GGU.
Right clicking on the + next to the Relationship to see other relationships
does not list as another relationship the fact that they are my 28th GGF and
29th GGM.  And, all their descendants are incorrectly calculated by
Relationship Calculator!

I have my Relationship Calculator set to find the closest 20 relationships
and closest 2 paths, as Brian had me do when I last had this problem.

It must be a bug if Ancestor Colors and Ancestor Tagging can make them
direct ancestors but Relationship Calculator cannot.

Anyone help?


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

[CE Wood]

Well, I did just as you suggested.

Legacy has finally finished setting relationships (5 hours later!), but it
STILL does NOT find that this relative is my direct ancestor!!!

I just want to be able to identify what relationship to me such direct
ancestors are, for goodness sake!  They are!  Even according, to all other
Legacy functions, but NOT according to Legacy Relationship Calculator!  What
good is it if it can’t tell me the correct relationship to me that certain
ancestors are?  It tells me they are not direct ancestors, which is
absolutely WRONG!


CE



From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Carneal USA
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

I have to admit I do not know why this occurring for you. But do you feel up
to doing a test? Please try this:

1. Make and save a copy of your family file, please!
2. Go to Tools » Set Relationships. Click the Clear Relationships. This
should remove all your relationships.
3. Go to your preferred starting person.
4. Go to Tools. » Set Direct Line as Preferred. Click that person as your
preferred line.
5. Still at the preferred starting person, go to Tools » Set Relationships. 
6. It's up to you, but I set my Blood Relationship value to 50. You can go
higher.  Just don't go to the max- I have problems myself when I use 999 for
this value.
7. I set my Non-blood Relationships to the max- 10.
8. Click Set Relationships.
Of course, you know all this already. :-)  But I am wondering if going
through this 
rigmarole will correct the problem immediately for you?  Could you let us
know? This works for *me* but I am hoping it will work for you by correcting
whatever the problem was. 

Thanks.

Robert
 



At 2009-08-06  05:15 PM, you wrote:

Another quirk.  When I set the blood relationships to closest 1 and
non-blood to any number, the ancestors specified in the first case are no
longer related.  What?  That parameter was not changed!


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [ mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of CE Wood
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationships not working - AGAIN

I am again having relationship problems with the database.

Bad enough that the relationship that shows in Family View and o Pedigree
View are not the direct relationship but the closest relationship.  Many
agree with me that THAT should be the default or, at the VERY least, an
option!

However, I now have ancestors that are listed as NOT direct ancestors by
Relationship Setting or Calculating.
They are correctly shown as direct ancestors by Ancestor Colors and by
direct ancestor tagging.

I have a 29th GGF and GGM who had two children.  One is shown as 28th GGM,
but her full brother is shown as 28th GGU and his wife as Wife of 28th GGU.
Right clicking on the + next to the Relationship to see other relationships
does not list as another relationship the fact that they are my 28th GGF and
29th GGM.  And, all their descendants are incorrectly calculated by
Relationship Calculator!

I have my Relationship Calculator set to find the closest 20 relationships
and closest 2 paths, as Brian had me do when I last had this problem.

It must be a bug if Ancestor Colors and Ancestor Tagging can make them
direct ancestors but Relationship Calculator cannot.

Anyone help?


CE




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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women

[CE Wood]

An Individual Report on the man will show all the spouses and children of
each.


CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women

Hi, First off I want to thank each of you who have helped me in the past.  I
don't always recognize you for your great insights.
 
Is there a way to print all women and all of the children a man had? This
relative had several children - some with one wife and two mistresses,
alliances and illigitimate children as they were called then. 
 
I'm sure this has been addressed before, but I'm not sure how to look it up.
 
Barb
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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

[CE Wood]

Click MasterAddress ListsEvent.  All addresses entered by using that +
sign following an event will be listed.  Find the one you want and click
Show List.


CE


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of GeoSci
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:13 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

Anyone found a way to search for those with a particular burial
address?  (Recorded within the + following Burial Location which a
city-county-state-country type record)  I would like a list of all
buried in three cemeteries relatively close to each other so that I
might visit for photos - but I cannot remember which dozen or so
people are there (out of over 4700 in the data base).  Sure would be
handy to be able to do this.
Thanks
Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

[CE Wood]

The Master icon is on the toolbar.  My Master icon is between my Merge and
Locations icons.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of 1familytree
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

CE, I use Legacy Deluxe, I do not see any tab called Master.

If you are referring to ViewMaster Lists Event That only brings up a 
listing of events, and does not list the persons who have that event in 
their record.
I believe what Keith (and I ) are looking for is a report that lists every 
who has data in the burial address or burial notes or burial picture event 
fields.

Jay

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From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:14 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

Click MasterAddress ListsEvent.  All addresses entered by using that +
 sign following an event will be listed.  Find the one you want and click
 Show List.


 CE


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of GeoSci
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:13 AM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Address

 Anyone found a way to search for those with a particular burial
 address?  (Recorded within the + following Burial Location which a
 city-county-state-country type record)  I would like a list of all
 buried in three cemeteries relatively close to each other so that I
 might visit for photos - but I cannot remember which dozen or so
 people are there (out of over 4700 in the data base).  Sure would be
 handy to be able to do this.
 Thanks
 Keith

 -- 
 Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry

 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com
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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women

[CE Wood]

Lineage is one particular person's lineage, so 1/2 siblings will not show,
whether in View or Report.

In Descendant view and Report, descendants are listed under their parents.
I think the only time you see 1/2 is in the Family View.

You can see a list of someone's siblings by clicking the Siblings icon at
the bottom of the Husb or Wife box while you are in Family View.  That takes
you to Sibling List.  Check the box Show half brothers and sister if you
want them to show.  I don't think you can print this list, but someone more
knowledgeable may know if Tagging or Search can do what you want.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women

Is there any way in the lineage report or Descendants List to show the 1/2 
brothers and sisters?

- Original Message - 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women


An Individual Report on the man will show all the spouses and children of
each.
CE

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:15 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing all children from different women

Is there a way to print all women and all of the children a man had? This
relative had several children - some with one wife and two mistresses,
alliances and illigitimate children as they were called then.

I'm sure this has been addressed before, but I'm not sure how to look it up.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children

[CE Wood]

When you enter him as a child of you and your 1st wife, he will be a full,
but when you also enter him as a child of you and your 2nd wife, he will be
listed both as 1/2 and regular under each family because that's what he is.

He is a biological child of both you and your first wife, so you enter him
as a child of you and your 1st wife.  Then right click the list of children,
and click on Children's Settings...  Highlight his name and specify
Relationship to Father:  Biological, and Relationship to Mother:
Biological.

H will now show up a 1/2 child when you display the Family View for you and
your 2nd wife.

Since your 2nd wife has adopted him, you want him to show up as a full child
for this Family View.  To have him show as a full child of you and your 2nd
wife, you must also enter him as a child of you and your 2nd wife.  Legacy
will warn you that he is already a child of another family and ask if you
want to enter him again.  You do.  Then, in Children's Settings, specify
Biological and Adopted, respectively.

He will up show up twice under each family, once as 1/2 and once as full,
which is correct.  On his family view page, it will show he has two sets of
parents.

Hope this is clear.


CE


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Of Jim Stapleton
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:31 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children

Wife #1 and I had a son. She passed away and I married Wife #2 and we had
two daughters. Wife #2 legally adopted my son. When I display myself and
Wife #1, my son shows up and I indicated his relationship to myself and Wife
#1 as Biological. When I display myself and Wife #2 he doesn't show up
unless I view 1/2 kids. But, now under Wife #1 my two daughters show up as
1/2 kids (I think this is wrong but that's a seperate issue). Anyway, I
can't find anyway to get to a screen to show my sons relationship with Wife
#2 as adopted. At one time I linked him as an existing son, but he sometimes
shows up twice when 1/2 kids is turned on. Is this as clear as mud?
Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Jim Stapleton
jima...@surewest.net
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RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children

[CE Wood]

If he is listed as full child in both families, which is normal when a child
has been adopted, then in the Children List of each Family View, he will
appear twice, once as Full child, once as 1/2 child.

On your Individual Report, he will be listed twice, once as the child of you
and your 1st wife, and once again as the child of you and your 2nd wife.  

You will probably want to check the option Show Child-parent relationships
found on the Include tab of Report Options.  Then the relationship will be
in parentheses after his name on the report.

For your 1st marriage, it will be:
Children:  Name (date-date) (Father: Biological) (Mother: Biological)

For your 2nd marriage, it will be:
Children: Name (date-date) (Father: Biological) (Mother: Adopted)

For the Family Report, he will show on each IF you have listed him as a full
child of both you and your 1st wife and of you and your 2nd wife.  You may
also want to check Child-parent relationships on the Include tab of Report
Options.

If you entered the adoption as an Event on your son's page, then you should
also check Events for children on the Include tab of Report Options.

Then, in each Family Report, under Children, son, the Event of his adoption
will be shown.


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children

Let me see if I can help.
When you select to show 1/2 children, the Family View will show all
children who are *linked* to at least one of the two main persons
(usually husband  wife).
The 1/2 indicator means that child is only linked to one of the two
main persons, not both.  It doesn't mean anything about a
relationship, just the linkage.
I don't think this affects any of the *reports*, just the *view*.
So if you want your son to appear on *reports* with wife #2, you need
to link him to you and wife #2 (in addition to you and wife #1).
When you select show 1/2 children, it *will*, in fact, cause your son
to appear twice: he is linked to you and wife #1 so that is the 1/2,
he is also linked to you and wife #2 so that is the other entry,
without the 1/2 indicator.  But him appearing twice is only on the
view screen, not in reports.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jim Stapletonjima...@surewest.net wrote:
 Wife #1 and I had a son. She passed away and I married Wife #2 and we had
 two daughters. Wife #2 legally adopted my son. When I display myself and
 Wife #1, my son shows up and I indicated his relationship to myself and
Wife
 #1 as Biological. When I display myself and Wife #2 he doesn't show up
 unless I view 1/2 kids. But, now under Wife #1 my two daughters show up as
 1/2 kids (I think this is wrong but that's a seperate issue). Anyway, I
 can't find anyway to get to a screen to show my sons relationship with
Wife
 #2 as adopted. At one time I linked him as an existing son, but he
sometimes
 shows up twice when 1/2 kids is turned on. Is this as clear as mud?
 Does anyone have any suggestions?

 Jim Stapleton
 jima...@surewest.net

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RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

[CE Wood]

So you want to be able to sort everyone in your whole DB by birth date?

Take advantage of Legacy's secondary sorting in the Index.  Those with the
same name are sorted by  - no birth date, abt, bef, date, exact date.

Legacy stands apart in its capacity and facility with alternate names, which
is why I chose it over FTM, which limits not only the number of alternate
names, but how long they can be.

The way to use this to your advantage, as well as provide a record of name
variants, is to fully exploit Legacy's ability to have so many alternate
names.  That means any variation in name - first, middle, last.  It does
mean you need to enter all the alternate names, but then you have them, and
by choosing to Show Alternate Names, you can always find them.  

I have many medieaval persons who were know by many, many names as well as
many spelling variations and naming conventions (Elizabeth was
interchangeable with Isabel, for instance), and I put all of them in as
alternate names.  Then, unless it is a new variant, I can always find the
person in my DB, even if the research I am reading uses a name that is not
the variant that I have opted to designate the name.


CE


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of 1familytree
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See

Ron,

I have to agree with Chick. If you had ever used FTM you would realize how 
great time saving features those are.
The duplicate feature was really great and with a family who reuses the same

names over and over again, I have to always check carefully.
The birth date sort in FTM is a simple click of a button, just like you can 
currently sort on RIN, First or Surname now in Legacy, the fact that you can

do it as you suggested with the search function, is terribly time consuming.

Jay


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To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See


 Chick,

 I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the 
 SearchFindDetailed Search option.



 Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
 From: cglewi...@gmail.com
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.)
 My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features
 that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy:

 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person
 when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often
 because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she
 is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and
 search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a
 duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a
 possible duplicate.

 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as
 alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I
 often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled
 slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than
 name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual
 with a different name or name change. I have had several instances
 where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing
 birth dates.

 If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will
 incorporate them into the next upgrade.

 Chick Lewis
 California

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RE: [LegacyUG] Step Children Plus a Printing Question

[CE Wood]

If you enter her as a child of you and your wife, she will not have the 1/2.
If you also enter her as a child of your wife and her father, she will be
listed both as 1/2 and regular under each family.

You can enter her as a child of you and your wife.  Then right click the
list of children, and click on Children's Settings...  Highlight her name
and specify Relationship to Father: Adopted, and Relationship to Mother:
Biological.

You can also enter her as a child of your wife and her father.  In
Children's Settings, specify Biological and Biological, respectively.

She now shows up twice under each family, once as 1/2 and once as regular.

Hope this is clear.


CE

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RUNION ROBERT
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Step Children Plus a Printing Question

So my adopted-Stepdaughter will have a '1/2' in front of her name?

Bob

On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:31 AM, ronald ferguson wrote:


 Bob,

 1) Set yourself as father in Family view with your daughter in the  
 children's section right click on her name and select Childrens  
 Settings and then adopted for the relationship. There is no problem  
 with a child having 2 (or more) sets of parents.

 2) You cannot save to OpenOffice. You need to save as an RTF and  
 import into OOo. See my tutorial at
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/AncBk.php 
  which details how to create an Ancestor Report. I'm afraid that I  
 have not done a video for it yet, but will when I have got rid of  
 hayfever and have a voice which doesn't sound as if I've got swine  
 flu :-)



 Ron Ferguson

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 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:38:04 -0400
 From: s...@cox.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Step Children Plus a Printing Question

 I have a couple of questions on which I need some help:
 (1) I adopted my step-daughter and would like to show her as such  
 in my family. How do I do that? I only seem to be able to add her  
 as my daughter but I would like for her to show as the daughter of  
 her biological Father for the genealogy line?

 (2) How do I save the report output to Open Office? I like some of  
 their covers, etc.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[CE Wood]

On the Individual Information page, there will be an asterisk before the
title Exclude from Potential Problems... bar on the lower left if you have
checked an item for exclusion.  Clicking on the bar will take you to the
various things you can exclude.


Carolyn

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

Is there any indication on an Individual's Information Window and/or
Family View to indicate that a Potential problem has been excluded (i.e.,
something similar to the highlighted picture icon to indicate that pictures
are attached)?  Or is there a way to print a list of exclusions? 
I would like to be able to go back and make corrections if some
information comes up.
TIA.
 
Howland Davis
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RE: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[CE Wood]

Actually, Dennis, I did send it in plain text.

Carolyn

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[[Carolyn ... I am replying to you because I did not see the original
message because it wasn't plain text. Reminder to posters ... please
post in plain text so everyone on the list will see your message and be
able to help.]]

Also, on the Family View, next to the text that says
Husband/Wife/Male/Female you will see . This means there is an
exclusion.

I'm not aware of a way (in Legacy V6) to view people who have been
marked for an exclusion. It would be a simple SQL query.
 
-- 

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:38:38 -0700, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

On the Individual Information page, there will be an asterisk before the
title Exclude from Potential Problems... bar on the lower left if you
have
checked an item for exclusion.  Clicking on the bar will take you to the
various things you can exclude.


Carolyn

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

Is there any indication on an Individual's Information Window and/or
Family View to indicate that a Potential problem has been excluded (i.e.,
something similar to the highlighted picture icon to indicate that pictures
are attached)?  Or is there a way to print a list of exclusions? 
I would like to be able to go back and make corrections if some
information comes up.
TIA.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[CE WOOD]

Thanks, Don.


Carolyn
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  To: 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:04 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems


  Carolyn

  Also on the family view beside the term Husband Wife  (or whatever terms 
you use) there will be a  to indicate that this person has  information 
flagged as excluded from potential problems list. 

   

  -- 

  Don Brown

  Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

  Floreat Magestas 

   

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[mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:55 PM
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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

   

  Carolyn:

   

  Thank you for the information.  I will keep my eyes open for the little 
asterisk in the future.

   

  Howland Davis

   

   

   


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RE: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[CE Wood]

Thanks, Don.

Carolyn

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Carolyn:
 
Thank you for the information.  I will keep my eyes open for the little
asterisk in the future.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

[CE Wood]

On the Family View page:
Husband

Wife


Carolyn

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Excluded Potential Problems

Don: 
 
In a message dated 7/23/2009 4:27:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
donbr...@sympatico.ca writes, Also on the family view beside the term 
“Husband” “Wife”  (or whatever terms you use) there will be a “” to indicate 
that this person has  information flagged as excluded from potential problems 
list.
I went to one that I have said to exclude (born more than 20 years after 
parents marry) and I do not see the chevrons or whatever.  Are you saying that 
they should be right above the name where it says Husb?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Magically Appearing Unknown Spouses and Parents

[CE Wood]

Unfortunately, because different reports say the same thing in different
ways, changing the Marriage screen, even if Overrides did work, so that all
reports would have the wording you want won't solve this problem.

That means, any time we want to create a report, we need to do a shortened
version to see if it comes out close to the way we want.  The report options
are different for each report too, so we often have to go back to the
Marriage screen, make what changes we can, and then go back and see if the
report comes out better.  For some reports, there is no way at all to have
it say what we want.

The only way, as you have found, is to send it to a word processor.  For a
long report, this is a royal pain!

I guess it is just too difficult for the programmers to give us more options
for wording.  Maybe they need a super deluxe version that allows ultimate
flexibility since they remove wonderful options when people complain that it
is just too complicated to make all these choices.


Carolyn

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Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Magically Appearing Unknown Spouses and Parents

If I look at the Wording Options Overrides on the Marriage screen for this
lady that had a child out of wedlock, it says *had a relationship with
someone*. Well, that's obvious, but I don't want to say anything - not *this
couple did not marry*, *she had a relationship with someone*, *she had a
sperm donor*. I want it to be blank and the next line would read *Her child
was*. How do I do that? Deleting *had a relationship with someone* doesn't
work. The Overrides are blank. This is one reason I can't use a .pdf and
have to edit a Word document when I want to send a report to relatives.
 
Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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RE: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP PRESS??

[CE Wood]

When I try to create a Descendant Narrative Report in RTF format, Legacy
brings up a box warning:

   Footnotes on each page are not available when using Unlinked RTF source
citations.  Only endnotes at the end of the book is available.  Do you want
to continue (using endnotes at the end of the book)?

What are Unlinked RTF source citations?  ALL my sources are linked!


As far as the numbering/lettering of the endnotes, Legacy must be telling
the word processor that these are endnotes, and the word processor uses
whatever format it has for listing endnotes or footnotes when they are
styled as being such.  This is a convention that allows you to click on the
number/letter in the text and be taken immediately to the end/foot note.
Change the style in your word processor.


Carolyn

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Don Montague
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP PRESS??

Dear Brian, Sherry and Listers,

I think I'm getting somewhere with this problem of some source 
citations being converted into end notes and numbered either in roman 
or arabic numerals.

I've just tried the same 50+ page Descendant Narrative report as follows:

1.  Created and stored as an RTF file, opened with WordPerfect 12 : 
problem occurred, end-notes numbered with lower case roman numerals.

2.  Created and stored as an RTF File, opened with Microsoft Word 
2003 Viewer : problem occurred, end-notes numbered with arabic numerals.

3.  Created and stored as a PDF File, opened with Adobe Acrobat 8 
Reader :  Problem did NOT occur, source citations all there, 
hunky-dory, and NO END NOTES.

What does this tell us?  I suspect that the routine Legacy uses to 
create RTF files has got some minor quirk in it??  Perhaps Brian or 
Sherry or one or two of you could try a similar exercise to the above 
and see what they get . . . ?

I prefer to create Descendant Narratives in RTF format, so that I can 
edit them before passing them on to friends or fellow researchers - 
so I tried doing Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C on the PDF Version, opened 
WordPerfect 12, Ctrl-N for a new document, CTRL-V to paste the PDF 
into a word processing document, edited it, and then Stored As an 
RTF document.

Round the houses, but it works, and doesn't create these spurious 
end-notes.  Or it didn't the first time I tried it!

Whaddya think, good people?

Don






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RE: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP PRESS??

[CE Wood]

Many thanks, Ron!

Carolyn


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Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP
PRESS??


Carolyn,
 
A very clear explanation of the difference betwen the two types
(linked/unlinked) is given in the Help files. Just Click the help at the
bottom of the OptionsCustomiseSources screen



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 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP
PRESS??
 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:49:47 -0700

 When I try to create a Descendant Narrative Report in RTF format, Legacy
 brings up a box warning:

 Footnotes on each page are not available when using Unlinked RTF source
 citations. Only endnotes at the end of the book is available. Do you want
 to continue (using endnotes at the end of the book)?

 What are Unlinked RTF source citations? ALL my sources are linked!


 As far as the numbering/lettering of the endnotes, Legacy must be telling
 the word processor that these are endnotes, and the word processor uses
 whatever format it has for listing endnotes or footnotes when they are
 styled as being such. This is a convention that allows you to click on the
 number/letter in the text and be taken immediately to the end/foot note.
 Change the style in your word processor.


 Carolyn

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Don Montague
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:44 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Numbering source citations and end notes : STOP
PRESS??

 Dear Brian, Sherry and Listers,

 I think I'm getting somewhere with this problem of some source
 citations being converted into end notes and numbered either in roman
 or arabic numerals.

 I've just tried the same 50+ page Descendant Narrative report as follows:

 1. Created and stored as an RTF file, opened with WordPerfect 12 :
 problem occurred, end-notes numbered with lower case roman numerals.

 2. Created and stored as an RTF File, opened with Microsoft Word
 2003 Viewer : problem occurred, end-notes numbered with arabic numerals.

 3. Created and stored as a PDF File, opened with Adobe Acrobat 8
 Reader : Problem did NOT occur, source citations all there,
 hunky-dory, and NO END NOTES.

 What does this tell us? I suspect that the routine Legacy uses to
 create RTF files has got some minor quirk in it?? Perhaps Brian or
 Sherry or one or two of you could try a similar exercise to the above
 and see what they get . . . ?

 I prefer to create Descendant Narratives in RTF format, so that I can
 edit them before passing them on to friends or fellow researchers -
 so I tried doing Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C on the PDF Version, opened
 WordPerfect 12, Ctrl-N for a new document, CTRL-V to paste the PDF
 into a word processing document, edited it, and then Stored As an
 RTF document.

 Round the houses, but it works, and doesn't create these spurious
 end-notes. Or it didn't the first time I tried it!

 Whaddya think, good people?

 Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] Headings in Events

[CE Wood]

From HELPIndividualInformation Screen:

Sources - An S is displayed in the column to indicate that one or more
source citations document the origin of the event.

Addition Information - A plus sign (+) is displayed in this column if
additional pictures or an address have been added to the event.


Carolyn

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of arnie...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Headings in Events

Hi.
If I got to  Events the column headings are: Name, Date, Desc/Place/Notes
that I understand.
Next are S, +. What are these used for and how do I edit them etc.
Thanks,
Arnie 


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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

[CE Wood]

Just a note.  The word unknown will not appear on screen if you have
checked the box (Just leave it blank) in the section, Word for Blank
Records, on the Data Format page of OptionsCustomize.


Carolyn


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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:48 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family


Hmmm. My English was not sufficiently precise as you are correct in saying
that a person with a RIN is *not* created, but in the Marriage List a
partner designated Unknown is recorded. This non-existant unknown also
shows in the Spouse Screen. The description of the mechanics of entering the
data works as stated.
 
BTW I also have a very large number of single parents, can't be bothered to
count them ;-)



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 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:01 -0700
 From: fourpa...@verizon.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The program if used
correctly, will place 'unknown' as a place saver for the screen, but not add
a person named 'Unknown'. The way is to put the child's name in either the
husband/wife (or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add the single parent
into the correct add parent box. This way it never asks about the 'spouse'.
So, if the parent has any spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is
part of the group. In the past I had many RINs asigned to people named
'Unknown', but cleaned it up in L5.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson wrote:

 From: ronald ferguson 
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM

 Vicky,

 I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
 noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
 somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!

 Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
 believes that every child is the product of two partners,
 one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
 single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
 parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
 with the name of Unknown. This cannot be avoided, but if
 you go to OptionsData Format towards of the bottom of
 the right hand column you will see the option to display the
 name Unknown or otherwise. However please note that the
 partner will always show as Unknown in ViewMarriage
 List and on the Spouse Screen.

 I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
 are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
 Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.

 Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
 the family.

 I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
 unless you linked the kids as Step-kids they should move
 with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.

 Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three
 Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To ensure that
 no residual marriage links remain go to ViewMarriage
 List and if you do find Ann married to an Unknown then
 highlight the marriage and use OptionsRemove marriage
 link.

 Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which
 will create an unknown father. In the Family View for Ann
 click the Spouse Icon and select: Add a new
 husbandSelect from existing husband, (do *not* delete
 the Unknown) and select John Smith. He may come with Grace
 attached, if so, also link her to Ann, otherwise attach Ann
 to her parents.

 If you put Brown or Smith as the surname for each (your
 choice) in the AKAs you can select your preferred display
 name.

 Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the
 kids should come with him, I'd checked first that they are
 linked to him and if not link them.

 Hope that helps!



 Ron Ferguson

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 From: vhan...@sympatico.ca
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:14:25 -0400

 Good Morning
 I am new to this list so apologize if this question
 

[LegacyUG] Undo Merge?

[CE Wood]

HELP says:  If you would like to undo all the merge changes made so far,
you can do so by choosing Undo Merge from the Edit menu.

However, when I go to the Edit Menu, there is no longer such an option.
Also, when I finish a merge, there is no longer a popup that reminds me to
do just that.

What happened to this VERY useful function?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Undo Merge?

[CE Wood]

Oh golly!  I guess I need to go to bed too!  Somehow, sometime, I must have
unchecked that.  Thanks!

Carolyn


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Undo Merge?

CE Wood wrote
HELP says:  If you would like to undo all the merge changes made so 
far, you can do so by choosing Undo Merge from the Edit menu.

However, when I go to the Edit Menu, there is no longer such an option. 
Also, when I finish a merge, there is no longer a popup that reminds me 
to do just that.

What happened to this VERY useful function?

I just did a Merge of 2 individuals in my Test file and got the popup 
and then successfully Unmerged.

The only reason I can think of at the moment why you did not get the 
popup and are unable to Unmerge is that you did not have the Autobackup 
Family File option checked when you began your Merge.  That's on the 
first pop-up screen which appears when you select Merge, BUT there is 
also a Show this message each time you merge option and if you have 
unchecked that at some time, it would not appear .

Presumably if  someone checked the first option and then unchecked the 
second, next time they did a merge the auto backup would be done but 
they wouldn't see that it was going to be.

I'm not going to play about with it any more now as it's way past my 
bedtime.

One other thing to note:  if (as advised) you do a manual backup before 
doing a Merge you will always be able to revert to the unmerged file.
-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Continuous group sheets - another question wording.

[CE Wood]

To have alternate names not print, go to Report OptionsInclude.  Uncheck
the box Alternate given and surnames.


Carolyn


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Continuous group sheets - another question wording.

Joyce C. Wicks wrote
Another question. How does one eliminate the phrase: Another name for 
___is (and gives the married name) I think this phrase should 
only be used for nicknames.

Doesn't happen on my Reports!  Have you entered the married name as an 
AKA?  If not, someone else can probably explain that.

If you have, I *think* you only have 2 options - put up with that 
wording on reports or remove all the married names from the AKA field. 
I can't see an option anywhere to change the wording of that sentence in 
Reports, nor an option to omit the AKA.
-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

Agreed - even if you're not having funBut here, I think that the
assumption is that if we can enter something, we assume that the information
can be printed somehow.

We can enter Event Address notes, and we can enter notes for Master
Locations on the Add/Edit Location screen, but those notes can be accessed
ONLY on the computer.  I can understand not wanting to ALWAYS print those
notes, but it would be nice to have the option to include them in a report.
Some of these places have interesting histories, but I can't print them out
anywhere!


Carolyn


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Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


Paula,
 
Now, that is a question which I never bother to ask myself about any
software! I am only ever interested in what it does and how can I use it to
my advantage. Life is too short ... :-)



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 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:41:04 -0700
 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 I think I understand both Ron and Carolyn's viewpoints, but what I'd like
to know is...

 What was Legacy's intent for these Event Addresses when they added them? I
just can't understand why they aren't included in web pages as they are in
reports. Does the originally intended usage of Event Addresses not apply
to web pages, or are there just many fewer report options available for
generating web pages? If the latter, are there plans for the missing
options to be added?

 Lastly, why give us Event Address Notes if we can't print them anywhere?

 Thanks in advance,
 --Paula in Texas


 --- On Sat, 6/27/09, ronald ferguson wrote:

 From: ronald ferguson 
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:51 PM

 Thank you for the last piece of the puzzle.

 As I said earlier because the Addresses cannot be used in
 webpages I have not really tried them before and for this
 reason, and since the V7 mapping only can use the LOcation
 Field, nor can they be used in Legacy Charting (as far as I
 can see), I will not be using them in the future.

 I will happily continue to put the full address in the
 Location Field and only use the Address List for Repository
 Addresses and as a mailing list.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

Ron,

Somewhere - could be a footnote or in parentheses after the location.  An
option, so that when I create reports and want the details I have worked so
laboriously on, I can have them.

For instance:
1.  Master Location:  Battle of Arkinholm, Langholm, Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Notes:  George, 4th Earl of Angus led the King's Army against his kinsman,
James, 9th Earl of Douglas, at the Battle of Arkinholm in 1455.  The result
was the end of the Black Douglases.  After the battle an Act of Parliament
gave Angus the lordship of Douglas with the original possessions of his
ancestors in Douglasdale.

2.  Master Location:  Thrace

Notes:  Ancient and modern region on the eastern Balkan Peninsula;
historically its borders have varied.  Early Thracians were related to the
Illyrians.  The area was annexed by Vespasian in the 1st century, invaded by
Goths, Huns and others, fell to Turks in 1361, and is now divided between
Turkey, Greece, and Bulgaria.


When creating reports for those interested in the history of abbeys,
battles, towns, no longer existent countries, et alia, I would like to have
a way to impart that research.  It doesn't really belong in the Event notes.
If there, and I want to not include it in a report, I would have to not
include ALL notes.  Event notes are also not the place in Legacy to put that
information.  It is relevant to the Location or Address, not to the Event.

Why have notes of any sort that cannot be reported/printed?


Carolyn


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Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


Carolyn,
 
As you will realise, I don't use the Notes fields for Locations (and
obviously for Addresses). However, each Location is attached to an Event and
each Event has a Note field into which I put everything I wish to put about
the location.
 
For example my grandfather fought in WW1 and saw action from Ypres in
Belgium to Framville in France where he was wounded. I do not know where his
regiment was exactly at any one time, so in the Location field I have put
Europe and in the Notes put all the battles in which he fought during the
12 months he was out there.

My serious point is that I am a pragmatist and utilise the tools available
to do what *I* want and if one way won't then I will find another. Why one
way doesn't is not really my concern, unless, of course one is then left
with no alternative, in which case it becomes a problem.
 
BTW just out of interest where would you like the Location/Address notes to
print in Reports?


Ron Ferguson

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:50:05 -0700

 Agreed - even if you're not having funBut here, I think that the
 assumption is that if we can enter something, we assume that the
information
 can be printed somehow.

 We can enter Event Address notes, and we can enter notes for Master
 Locations on the Add/Edit Location screen, but those notes can be accessed
 ONLY on the computer. I can understand not wanting to ALWAYS print those
 notes, but it would be nice to have the option to include them in a
report.
 Some of these places have interesting histories, but I can't print them
out
 anywhere!


 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of ronald ferguson
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:43 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


 Paula,

 Now, that is a question which I never bother to ask myself about any
 software! I am only ever interested in what it does and how can I use it
to
 my advantage. Life is too short ... :-)



 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
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 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 
 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:41:04 -0700
 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 I think I understand both Ron and Carolyn's viewpoints, but what I'd like
 to know is...

 What was Legacy's 

RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

Linda,

Thanks for the tip!  Doesn't do much for Event Addresses, however, which is
where I put cemeteries, directions, etc.

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Linda McCauley
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

Carolyn,
Master Location notes actually can be printed. If you create a
location index in reports there is an option to include the location
notes in that index. They can also be included in the Location Report.
That said, I only use the location notes field for things like
directions to cemeteries or a family property or to indicate that the
map pinpoint is an approximate location. If I have information about a
location that I want included as part of a person's story, I do as Ron
does and put them in event notes as I subscribe to the same policy of
using the tools available to get the result I want regardless of how
they were intended.

Linda M.



On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote:

 Carolyn,

 As you will realise, I don't use the Notes fields for Locations (and
obviously for Addresses). However, each Location is attached to an Event and
each Event has a Note field into which I put everything I wish to put about
the location.

 For example my grandfather fought in WW1 and saw action from Ypres in
Belgium to Framville in France where he was wounded. I do not know where his
regiment was exactly at any one time, so in the Location field I have put
Europe and in the Notes put all the battles in which he fought during the
12 months he was out there.

 My serious point is that I am a pragmatist and utilise the tools available
to do what *I* want and if one way won't then I will find another. Why one
way doesn't is not really my concern, unless, of course one is then left
with no alternative, in which case it becomes a problem.

 BTW just out of interest where would you like the Location/Address notes
to print in Reports?


 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _



 
 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:50:05 -0700

 Agreed - even if you're not having funBut here, I think that the
 assumption is that if we can enter something, we assume that the
information
 can be printed somehow.

 We can enter Event Address notes, and we can enter notes for Master
 Locations on the Add/Edit Location screen, but those notes can be
accessed
 ONLY on the computer. I can understand not wanting to ALWAYS print those
 notes, but it would be nice to have the option to include them in a
report.
 Some of these places have interesting histories, but I can't print them
out
 anywhere!


 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of ronald ferguson
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:43 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


 Paula,

 Now, that is a question which I never bother to ask myself about any
 software! I am only ever interested in what it does and how can I use it
to
 my advantage. Life is too short ... :-)



 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 
 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:41:04 -0700
 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 I think I understand both Ron and Carolyn's viewpoints, but what I'd
like
 to know is...

 What was Legacy's intent for these Event Addresses when they added them?
I
 just can't understand why they aren't included in web pages as they are
in
 reports. Does the originally intended usage of Event Addresses not
apply
 to web pages, or are there just many fewer report options available for
 generating web pages? If the latter, are there plans for the missing
 options to be added?

 Lastly, why give us Event Address Notes if we can't print them anywhere?

 Thanks in advance,
 --Paula in Texas


 --- On Sat, 6/27/09, ronald ferguson wrote:

 From: ronald ferguson
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and 

RE: [LegacyUG] One more question please

[CE Wood]

It's not the blank lines we want to not print.  We don't want the name of
the event (birth, death, et al.) to print when there is no information for
that event.

Many times there is nothing at all we have except the name; sometimes we
have just death info, for instance, yet we have these long lists of event
names that print.

If there is no information for those events, we want the event name to not
print at all.


Carolyn

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] One more question please

There are check boxes in the Options tab under each report to Insert
Underlines for Missing information.  If you do not want those blank lines,
then un-check the boxes as necessary.
Ron Taylor

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote:

From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] One more question please
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 10:19 AM
That is a problem that becomes major when your report is long, as many of
mine are.  Since I have medieaval persons whose dates will never be known
now, it goes beyond ludicrous and is maddening.

Make a suggestion to Legacy that they allow empty fields to be not printed.

Cheers,
Carolyn


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Of Joyce C. Wicks
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] One more question please

When I generate a descendant report now, the pictures are 
included thanks to your help, but all names of the fields 
such as born, died, in which I have names, but no dates for 
those events are also showing. Is there a way I can 
eliminate the names of these fields for reports?

Thanks,
Joyce



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RE: [LegacyUG] One more question please

[CE Wood]

That is a problem that becomes major when your report is long, as many of
mine are.  Since I have medieaval persons whose dates will never be known
now, it goes beyond ludicrous and is maddening.

Make a suggestion to Legacy that they allow empty fields to be not printed.

Cheers,
Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Joyce C. Wicks
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] One more question please

When I generate a descendant report now, the pictures are 
included thanks to your help, but all names of the fields 
such as born, died, in which I have names, but no dates for 
those events are also showing. Is there a way I can 
eliminate the names of these fields for reports?

Thanks,
Joyce



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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

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 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:44:10 -0700

 Sorry. I didn't realize you were trying to
 print the notes from the
 Address
 List. I thought you were trying to print
 the Event notes along with the
 location and address.

 I would ask Support why they even have
 such an option if there is no way
 to
 report on it!

 Submit a suggestion that they include that
 function on reports!


 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
 [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 On
 Behalf
 Of Paula Ryburn
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses


 Carolyn,
 I have removed the city etc. from Event
 Addresses, too, to remove
 redundancy
 in my book reports (which in some ways
 defeats the purpose, but.).

 I meant that I have yet to find a place
 where the Event ADDRESS Notes
 print.
 I've even today re-tested trying to get
 them into a custom report in the
 Search Print functionality. No go. In
 fact, I couldn't even get the
 Event Address Name to be printed when
 trying to produce a report of
 cemeteries  who's buried there.

 --Paula in Texas


 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, CE Wood wrote:

 I don't enter the city, county, etc.
 in the Event Addresses. That way you
 don't get the redundant addresses. You
 can still
 enter the coordinates, for
 mapping purposes. I usually look up
 the street
 address of the cemetery so I
 have the exact coordinates rather than
 just the city's.

 I have no problem printing the Event
 Notes - just have the
 appropriate box
 checked in Report Options.


 Carolyn

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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

Ron,

The Event Addresses DO print in reports.  It the Event Address Notes that do
not.

If the notes of a location are essential, then the Event Address is not
where to put those notes.

As I mentioned, when I have places of historical interest and I want the
notes for that place to be printed, I use the Master Location List for that
specific abbey, cathedral, battle, etc.  When I merely want the exact
location, without notes for that exact location, I use the Event Address for
the house number/cemetery name and address.

I really don't understand why Legacy even allows notes for the Event
Addresses since it does not allow printing them anywhere!


Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:46 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


Carolyn,
 
This is exactly why I asked you for clarification. The differences in our
understanding is due to terminology. Howver the fact is that *only* the
Locations print in reports ie. those in the Master Location List.
 
What one might call the address book is not designed for this purpose.


Ron Ferguson

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For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:44:10 -0700

 Sorry. I didn't realize you were trying to print the notes from the
Address
 List. I thought you were trying to print the Event notes along with the
 location and address.

 I would ask Support why they even have such an option if there is no way
to
 report on it!

 Submit a suggestion that they include that function on reports!


 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Paula Ryburn
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


 Carolyn,
 I have removed the city etc. from Event Addresses, too, to remove
redundancy
 in my book reports (which in some ways defeats the purpose, but.).

 I meant that I have yet to find a place where the Event ADDRESS Notes
print.
 I've even today re-tested trying to get them into a custom report in the
 Search Print functionality. No go. In fact, I couldn't even get the
 Event Address Name to be printed when trying to produce a report of
 cemeteries  who's buried there.

 --Paula in Texas


 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, CE Wood wrote:

 I don't enter the city, county, etc.
 in the Event Addresses. That way you
 don't get the redundant addresses. You can still
 enter the coordinates, for
 mapping purposes. I usually look up the street
 address of the cemetery so I
 have the exact coordinates rather than just the city's.

 I have no problem printing the Event Notes - just have the
 appropriate box
 checked in Report Options.


 Carolyn

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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


 Carolyn,

 This is exactly why I asked you for clarification. The differences in our
 understanding is due to terminology. Howver the fact is that *only* the
 Locations print in reports ie. those in the Master Location List.

 What one might call the address book is not designed for this purpose.


 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 
 From: wood...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses
 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:44:10 -0700

 Sorry. I didn't realize you were trying to print the notes from the
 Address
 List. I thought you were trying to print the Event notes along with the
 location and address.

 I would ask Support why they even have such an option if there is no way
 to
 report on it!

 Submit a suggestion that they include that function on reports!


 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf
 Of Paula Ryburn
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


 Carolyn,
 I have removed the city etc. from Event Addresses, too, to remove
 redundancy
 in my book reports (which in some ways defeats the purpose, but.).

 I meant that I have yet to find a place where the Event ADDRESS Notes
 print.
 I've even today re-tested trying to get them into a custom report in the
 Search Print functionality. No go. In fact, I couldn't even get the
 Event Address Name to be printed when trying to produce a report of
 cemeteries  who's buried there.

 --Paula in Texas


 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, CE Wood wrote:

 I don't enter the city, county, etc.
 in the Event Addresses. That way you
 don't get the redundant addresses. You can still
 enter the coordinates, for
 mapping purposes. I usually look up the street
 address of the cemetery so I
 have the exact coordinates rather than just the city's.

 I have no problem printing the Event Notes - just have the
 appropriate box
 checked in Report Options.


 Carolyn
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RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

, and it is these which will appear in
 Reports and Web pages.
 
  If you click the grey plus sign after entering a birth
 marrige or death you
  will see a place for Birth addresses etc. These are
 not printed. I do not
  use these.
 
  If you include a Repository in your Sources then it is
 your choice whether
  they print or not.
 
 
  Ron Ferguson
 
 
 _
 
  Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
  For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 
 _
 
 
 
 
 
  
  From: hvanvonde...@hotmail.com
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
  Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:31:55 -0300
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Legacy Group,
 
 
 
  I tested this software for a month or so and
 ultimately purchased it -
  just because it seemed so 'easy'. The more I read all
 of the posts - the
  more confused I become !
 
 
 
  Is there anywhere that displays the resulting
 reports - and what you must
  add or not add as far as addresses, ect., to achieve
 the result ?
 
 
 
  Heather
 
  From: wood...@msn.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
  Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:36:23 -0700
 
  Ron,
 
  The Event Addresses DO print in reports. It
 the Event Address Notes that
  do
  not.
 
  If the notes of a location are essential, then
 the Event Address is not
  where to put those notes.
 
  As I mentioned, when I have places of
 historical interest and I want the
  notes for that place to be printed, I use the
 Master Location List for
  that
  specific abbey, cathedral, battle, etc. When I
 merely want the exact
  location, without notes for that exact
 location, I use the Event Address
  for
  the house number/cemetery name and address.
 
  I really don't understand why Legacy even
 allows notes for the Event
  Addresses since it does not allow printing
 them anywhere!
 
 
  Carolyn
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
 [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 On
  Behalf
  Of ronald ferguson
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:46 AM
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
 
 
  Carolyn,
 
  This is exactly why I asked you for
 clarification. The differences in our
  understanding is due to terminology. Howver
 the fact is that *only* the
  Locations print in reports ie. those in the
 Master Location List.
 
  What one might call the address book is not
 designed for this purpose.
 
 
  Ron Ferguson
 
 
 _
 
  Tutorials: Programme of adding videos
 commenced
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/
  View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
  http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
  For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 
 _
 
 
 
 
 
  
  From: wood...@msn.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
  Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:44:10 -0700
 
  Sorry. I didn't realize you were trying to
 print the notes from the
  Address
  List. I thought you were trying to print
 the Event notes along with the
  location and address.
 
  I would ask Support why they even have
 such an option if there is no way
  to
  report on it!
 
  Submit a suggestion that they include that
 function on reports!
 
 
  Carolyn
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
 [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 On
  Behalf
  Of Paula Ryburn
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and
 Addresses
 
 
  Carolyn,
  I have removed the city etc. from Event
 Addresses, too, to remove
  redundancy
  in my book reports (which in some ways
 defeats the purpose, but.).
 
  I meant that I have yet to find a place
 where the Event ADDRESS Notes
  print.
  I've even today re-tested trying to get
 them into a custom report in the
  Search Print functionality. No go. In
 fact, I couldn't even get the
  Event Address Name to be printed when
 trying to produce a report of
  cemeteries  who's buried there.
 
  --Paula in Texas
 
 
  --- On Thu, 6/25/09, CE Wood wrote:
 
  I don't enter the city, county, etc.
  in the Event Addresses. That way you
  don't get the redundant addresses. You
 can still
  enter the coordinates, for
  mapping purposes. I usually look up
 the street
  address of the cemetery so I
  have the exact coordinates rather than
 just the city's.
 
  I have no problem printing the Event
 Notes - just have the
  appropriate box
  checked

RE: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses

[CE Wood]

I don't enter the city, county, etc. in the Event Addresses.  That way you
don't get the redundant addresses.  You can still enter the coordinates, for
mapping purposes.  I usually look up the street address of the cemetery so I
have the exact coordinates rather than just the city's.

I have no problem printing the Event Notes - just have the appropriate box
checked in Report Options.


Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location Names and Addresses


Cathy,  

Although I am still on the fence with this, I currently have almost all of
my cemeteries, hospitals and churches in the Event Address list.  If,
however, you use book reports, you'll find that when the cemetery (eg) is
printed in parens, it will include the entire address... which is redundant.

Further, although I haven't tested it recently, it seems I remember the
Event Address Notes don't print anywhere.  (For that matter, I don't know if
the Location Notes do either.)

--Paula in Texas


--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Cathy chorn0...@verizon.net wrote:

 
 I've a question to all who place the cemetery name into the
 Location field: why don't you use the Burial Address
 section?
 
 I use the Burial Address section and when I want to see who
 I have buried in a specific cemetery, I can go into Burial
 Address - Address List.  Then I select a specific
 cemetery, click on the Show List button and then click on
 the Print button.  Then when I go to the cemetery to
 take photographs, I have the list of everyone I need to
 find.  If I want several cemeteries, I can tag them and
 print those tagged lists.
 
 Also, once I've placed a cemetery into the Burial List, I
 can call it up from the Address List and I don't have to
 recreate the name and address over and over again.  I
 can also add the cemetery's phone number, GPS coordinates,
 web address and additional information in the cemetery's
 notes fields (i.e., directions on getting there or notes on
 how old the cemetery is.)
 
 I realize that different people have different styles, but
 I was curious as to why you would prefer placing cemetery
 names into a location field and getting reports that way as
 opposed to using the cemetery burial address field which
 allows for so much more.
 
 Just curious.
 
 Cathy




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