Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Jenny, Right.with the deed as the source document. Thx. From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries On 01/04/2015 15:29, BARTON LEWIS wrote: That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? I would add all the extra information in the Event Notes, so the Sentence might read something like James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. He purchased this 5 acres of land from John Doe for $5 on 01 September 1810 and is believed to have grazed cattle there. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thanks, Jenny Paula. It seems there are different ways to display information based on a report's use and the intended audience, as Cathy touched upon. If you're generating something for family members that you want to be in more of a narrative format, I'm guessing you might want to write it up in the notes and override the events and maybe even some sources while keeping others which display as endnotes or footnotes. I need to read up on how to do the overrides and also practice generating reports to see what's possible. Barton On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:59 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Jenny, Right.with the deed as the source document. Thx. From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries On 01/04/2015 15:29, BARTON LEWIS wrote: That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? I would add all the extra information in the Event Notes, so the Sentence might read something like James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. He purchased this 5 acres of land from John Doe for $5 on 01 September 1810 and is believed to have grazed cattle there. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/ Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Would you really just say listed on a deed ? Or would it be acquired first
parcel of land on Black Creek or something that helps the reader of your
report get the feel for what the deed really means? (I am not a land documents
expert, though.) --Paula
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“Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. It would be
pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.” What
if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor? The
only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe
the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book
B. That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.” My problem
is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly: James was listed on
a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC.He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan
1761 in Granville Co., NC.James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville
Co., NC. I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific
records for an individual. That said, in the Register Reports I generated when
using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a
“Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the
record of his/her marriage and children). I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that
level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving
a summation only. Barton From: Michele/Support
[mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Barton, You can create
events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I
prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright,
Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I
prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will
be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to
try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. MicheleTechnical
supportmich...@legacyfamilytree.comwww.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about
sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and
did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for
example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but
I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy
not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county
– e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a
separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly:
create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the
Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record.
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Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
I second Brian's comments... thanks for stating them so well, Brian. ;)It also depends on which reports you are going to use... and who will be reading them why. I don't think I would want to have to read end notes to see the trail.--Paula From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Jumping in here, here are some thoughts on why you would record each deed separately and how I would record other events: 1. Recording each deed separately adds to the chronology of the person and lets you see that not all their land was acquired at the same time. In a way it shows the growth in the family fortunes which gives a clearer picture of their life. A downturn in fortune would also appear if land is being disposed of piecemeal over time. 2. In cases where land is acquired in different areas you can track the migration of the family over time. 3. Census sources include details of where a family is living, in those cases I would record the place as a residence event since there is no land record. My practice, unlike Geoff's is to record censuses as sources for facts included in the census listing such as place of residence, estimated birth dates based on age, family relationships etc. Geoff records the census itself as an event. Brian Customer Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com On 30/03/2015 10:26 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: Thanks, Michele. I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're talking about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not. It's just not practical. So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different cite for each event? If you have 20 events, all for land on the same creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the Text/Comments section? Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date) which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record? Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? Barton On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Would you really just say listed on a deed ? Or would it be acquired first parcel of land on Black Creek or something that helps the reader of your report get the feel for what the deed really means? (I am not a land documents expert, though.) --Paula From: Barton Lewis bartonle...@optonline.net To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:25 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Michele, you said “Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. It would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.” What if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor? The only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book B. That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.” My problem is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly: James was listed on a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC. He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 1761 in Granville Co., NC. James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville Co., NC. I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific records for an individual. That said, in the Register Reports I generated when using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a “Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the record of his/her marriage and children). I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving a summation only. Barton From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Barton, You can create events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net ] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? Thank you. Barton No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4315/9406 - Release Date: 03/29/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/ Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com http
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
On 2015/04/01 16:29 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? Barton, it's your copy of Legacy. Change things, even the default event sentences, to suit your own family. -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
On 01/04/2015 15:29, BARTON LEWIS wrote: That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? I would add all the extra information in the Event Notes, so the Sentence might read something like James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. He purchased this 5 acres of land from John Doe for $5 on 01 September 1810 and is believed to have grazed cattle there. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thanks, Jenny. I just need to experiment adding language and tailoring to my needs, as Mike said, I guess. Barton On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 01/04/2015 15:29, BARTON LEWIS wrote: That was part of my point about the different event types -- when to use land vs. deed. Michele pointed out that deeds aren't just for land. The land event yields the language James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina but it doesn't say how he acquired it - by deed, grant or otherwise. I prefer the land language but, again, should you modify the sentence to specify how he acuired the land? I would add all the extra information in the Event Notes, so the Sentence might read something like James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. He purchased this 5 acres of land from John Doe for $5 on 01 September 1810 and is believed to have grazed cattle there. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Barton, If you are using a book of abstracts then the BOOK is your source, not the deeds. In this case you WOULD only have one source for all of the deeds. You never cite an index or an abstract as you would the original. If you have a copy of the deed in your hot little hands then the deed is your source. If you are looking at a book at deed abstracts then the derivative book is your source. I prefer to use the actual deeds, not abstracts. Indexes and abstracts tend to be riddled with errors. Indexes and abstracts will give you the information you need to find the original. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:25 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Michele, you said “Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. It would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.” What if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor? The only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book B. That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.” My problem is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly: James was listed on a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC. He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 1761 in Granville Co., NC. James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville Co., NC. I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific records for an individual. That said, in the Register Reports I generated when using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a “Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the record of his/her marriage and children). I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving a summation only. Barton From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Barton, You can create events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? Thank you. Barton No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4315/9406 - Release Date: 03/29/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thanks, Michele. I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're tlaking about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not. It's just not practical. So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different cite for each event? If you have 20 events, all for land on the same creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the Text/Comments section? Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date) which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record? Barton On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 08:45 AM, Michele/Support wrote: Barton, If you are using a book of abstracts then the BOOK is your source, not the deeds. In this case you WOULD only have one source for all of the deeds. You never cite an index or an abstract as you would the original. If you have a copy of the deed in your hot little hands then the deed is your source. If you are looking at a book at deed abstracts then the derivative book is your source. I prefer to use the actual deeds, not abstracts. Indexes and abstracts tend to be riddled with errors. Indexes and abstracts will give you the information you need to find the original. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:25 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Michele, you said “Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. It would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.” What if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor? The only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book B. That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.” My problem is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly: James was listed on a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC. He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 1761 in Granville Co., NC. James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville Co., NC. I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific records for an individual. That said, in the Register Reports I generated when using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a “Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the record of his/her marriage and children). I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving a summation only. Barton From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Barton, You can create events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? Thank you. Barton No virus found in this message
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Barton, If I were to use an abstract book I have to admit I would be tempted to make a single event and then list all of the abstracts in the notes in chronological order. In the source for that event I would cite the book and then for the page numbers I would put something like this, 14, 55, 67, 88, 110-111, 154 A deed only records real/personal property transactions, it doesn't necessarily have to be land. Deeds of slaves are very common. There are many different types of land documents. You can have land grants, land patents, and land warrants at the Colonial, federal and state levels (only talking about US land records). Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com -Original Message- From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:26 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Thanks, Michele. I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're tlaking about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not. It's just not practical. So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different cite for each event? If you have 20 events, all for land on the same creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the Text/Comments section? Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date) which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record? Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Jumping in here, here are some thoughts on why you would record each deed separately and how I would record other events: 1. Recording each deed separately adds to the chronology of the person and lets you see that not all their land was acquired at the same time. In a way it shows the growth in the family fortunes which gives a clearer picture of their life. A downturn in fortune would also appear if land is being disposed of piecemeal over time. 2. In cases where land is acquired in different areas you can track the migration of the family over time. 3. Census sources include details of where a family is living, in those cases I would record the place as a residence event since there is no land record. My practice, unlike Geoff's is to record censuses as sources for facts included in the census listing such as place of residence, estimated birth dates based on age, family relationships etc. Geoff records the census itself as an event. Brian Customer Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com On 30/03/2015 10:26 AM, BARTON LEWIS wrote: Thanks, Michele. I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're talking about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not. It's just not practical. So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different cite for each event? If you have 20 events, all for land on the same creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the Text/Comments section? Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date) which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record? Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thanks, Brian. My practice has been to enter censuses as a source within the birth' field, but it occured to me it could also fall under residence. Barton On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 01:15 PM, Brian/Support wrote: Jumping in here, here are some thoughts on why you would record each deed separately and how I would record other events: 1. Recording each deed separately adds to the chronology of the person and lets you see that not all their land was acquired at the same time. In a way it shows the growth in the family fortunes which gives a clearer picture of their life. A downturn in fortune would also appear if land is being disposed of piecemeal over time. 2. In cases where land is acquired in different areas you can track the migration of the family over time. 3. Census sources include details of where a family is living, in those cases I would record the place as a residence event since there is no land record. My practice, unlike Geoff's is to record censuses as sources for facts included in the census listing such as place of residence, estimated birth dates based on age, family relationships etc. Geoff records the census itself as an event. Brian Customer Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
One event or multiple? Census as event or Residence? For the Chronology you want the Events separate, but as Barton says, the report can get a bit monotonous. The solution I think is to have two different events: eg Land and Land Summary. Depending on what you were doing you would make one or the other Private so that it wasn't included. This can be done Globally in the Event Definition. I enter Census as an Event/Fact as, for a start, it's much easier to see whether you've found all relevant censuses for someone. For some ancestors (mainly direct) I'll also add residence events where I have more evidence than just one census. For some reports, I make the Census event Private. Just another option as we juggle our data entry to aid further research AND to present to family. Cathy BARTON LEWIS wrote: Thanks, Brian. My practice has been to enter censuses as a source within the birth' field, but it occured to me it could also fall under residence. Barton On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 01:15 PM, Brian/Support wrote: Jumping in here, here are some thoughts on why you would record each deed separately and how I would record other events: 1. Recording each deed separately adds to the chronology of the person and lets you see that not all their land was acquired at the same time. In a way it shows the growth in the family fortunes which gives a clearer picture of their life. A downturn in fortune would also appear if land is being disposed of piecemeal over time. 2. In cases where land is acquired in different areas you can track the migration of the family over time. 3. Census sources include details of where a family is living, in those cases I would record the place as a residence event since there is no land record. My practice, unlike Geoff's is to record censuses as sources for facts included in the census listing such as place of residence, estimated birth dates based on age, family relationships etc. Geoff records the census itself as an event. Brian Customer Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thanks, Michele. I was not thinking about deeds being for other than land but knew that. Presumably, the event for land is used in Legacy where there is not another land-related event that replicates it (a separate event for warrant, a separate one for patent, etc.). I guess I need to check all the event categories and consider creating an event category if I am able and so desire. Barton On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Michele/Support wrote: Barton, If I were to use an abstract book I have to admit I would be tempted to make a single event and then list all of the abstracts in the notes in chronological order. In the source for that event I would cite the book and then for the page numbers I would put something like this, 14, 55, 67, 88, 110-111, 154 A deed only records real/personal property transactions, it doesn't necessarily have to be land. Deeds of slaves are very common. There are many different types of land documents. You can have land grants, land patents, and land warrants at the Colonial, federal and state levels (only talking about US land records). Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com -Original Message- From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:26 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Thanks, Michele. I try to get copies of original deeds for all direct ancestors; if I am documenting their siblings, and we're tlaking about dozens or hundreds of deeds, I may not. It's just not practical. So ... I realize the book is the source when you're dealing with asbtracts, and what I meant to say was, would you always use a different cite for each event? If you have 20 events, all for land on the same creek in the same county, for the same ancestor, would you consider creating a single event called James Langston had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina, with one source (the same book of abstracts) and the text of the abstracts listed in the Text/Comments section? Otherwise, you're going to get 20 identical events (except for the date) which say he had land on the south side of Tar River in Granville County, North Carolina. What are the circumstances where you would use land as an event -- when it's not a deed, or grant, or other known record? Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
This all works properly now, thank you, Jenny. Barton -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 6:08 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries On 29/03/2015 02:18, Barton Lewis wrote: 1. I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land and put all the deeds for that body in that event. In the source detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the book in the Text/Comments field. When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not print out in the footnote. I looked for an option to do that but did not see it. Is there one? I'd like researchers to see exactly what is in the abstract. When you entered the Text, did you tick the box just below for Add this Text to the Source Citation on Reports? (Or, Add these Comments to the Source Citation on Reports, if appliccable?) 2. In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy. (Please let me know if there is another.) The report was continuous and did not break down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at the end. Is that possible in Legacy? When you select Descendant Book Report, the first screen has several tabs and the first one is Options. On the left, about halfway down you can select Modified Register or Register. Does selecting Register give you what you want? Footnotes which appear at the end are Endnotes! If you click Report Options on that first screen, then select the Sources tab, you can choose whether you want to print Footnotes or Endnotes and if you choose Endnotes there is a further choice for at the end of each generation or at the end of the book. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Michele, you said “Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. It would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds.” What if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor? The only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and maybe the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in Deed Book B. That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.” My problem is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly: James was listed on a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC. He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 1761 in Granville Co., NC. James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville Co., NC. I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific records for an individual. That said, in the Register Reports I generated when using PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a “Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the record of his/her marriage and children). I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving a summation only. Barton From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:36 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Barton, You can create events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? Thank you. Barton _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4315/9406 - Release Date: 03/29/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Barton, The Descendant Book Report is where you will find the Register and Modified Register (NGSQ) formats. The way you have entered your land transaction is different than I have ever seen. You have entered a single event for all of the land around a particular body of water and combined all off the deeds into a single citation? This is a bit messy. Just my personal opinion but each land transaction needs to be its own event with its own citation. You can easily mention other related transactions in the notes such as, Jacob and his brother's John and Joseph bought adjoining pieces of land on Little Black Creek. As far as source text/comments and detail text/comments printing in the footnotes you need to have these selected to print. You will find this in two places. You can do it singly on the Master Source screen for that source (right under where you entered the text/comments) and on the detail screen (right under the text/comments) and you can do it globally in Option 7.2. If you make a change there you need to click the Apply button over on the right. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com -Original Message- From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:18 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries Thank you, Jenny. A few follow up questions: 1. I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land and put all the deeds for that body in that event. In the source detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the book in the Text/Comments field. When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not print out in the footnote. I looked for an option to do that but did not see it. Is there one? I'd like researchers to see exactly what is in the abstract. 2. In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy. (Please let me know if there is another.) The report was continuous and did not break down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at the end. Is that possible in Legacy? Thanks, Barton Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Barton, You can create events for your land records. There is a generic land record event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.) Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed separately with separate citations. Each deed will be in different books on different page numbers. I would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 different deeds. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? Thank you. Barton _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4315/9406 - Release Date: 03/29/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
On 29/03/2015 02:18, Barton Lewis wrote: 1. I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land and put all the deeds for that body in that event. In the source detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the book in the Text/Comments field. When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not print out in the footnote. I looked for an option to do that but did not see it. Is there one? I'd like researchers to see exactly what is in the abstract. When you entered the Text, did you tick the box just below for Add this Text to the Source Citation on Reports? (Or, Add these Comments to the Source Citation on Reports, if appliccable?) 2. In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy. (Please let me know if there is another.) The report was continuous and did not break down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at the end. Is that possible in Legacy? When you select Descendant Book Report, the first screen has several tabs and the first one is Options. On the left, about halfway down you can select Modified Register or Register. Does selecting Register give you what you want? Footnotes which appear at the end are Endnotes! If you click Report Options on that first screen, then select the Sources tab, you can choose whether you want to print Footnotes or Endnotes and if you choose Endnotes there is a further choice for at the end of each generation or at the end of the book. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
Thank you, Jenny. A few follow up questions: 1. I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land and put all the deeds for that body in that event. In the source detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the book in the Text/Comments field. When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not print out in the footnote. I looked for an option to do that but did not see it. Is there one? I'd like researchers to see exactly what is in the abstract. 2. In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy. (Please let me know if there is another.) The report was continuous and did not break down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at the end. Is that possible in Legacy? Thanks, Barton -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:37 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries On 28/03/2015 17:55, Barton Lewis wrote: I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? I wonder if you are confusing Sources and Events/Facts. I don't know PAF, but I'm fairly sure the fields you refer to will be what Legacy calls Events or Facts. Events and Facts are listed together in Legacy and generally referred to as Events, but Legacy does use the section heading Events/Facts on the Individual's Information page and this is more accurate. Legacy has an Event named Land and the default sentence, if all fields are entered, is [HeShe] owned land [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace]. Having entered the information from your Land Records into the Land Event/Fact you would then cite the Land Records as the Source(s) for that information. You can either create a separate Event/Fact for each piece of land held, or list them all under the one heading. It's your choice. You will probably want to create one Master Source for all the records from one County, and if you chose to use just one Event/Fact you can use that Master Source with just one Source Detail, or cite the Master Source several times with variations (such as page number) in the Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries
On 28/03/2015 17:55, Barton Lewis wrote: I have 2 questions about sources: first, where do I enter land records? I looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer. On the Individual’s Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right. PAF had fields for Military, Land etc. Does Legacy not have those? Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in published abstracts of deeds. I don’t really want to create a separate source entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly: create a single source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments field with the page number in square brackets for each record. Does that sound right? I wonder if you are confusing Sources and Events/Facts. I don't know PAF, but I'm fairly sure the fields you refer to will be what Legacy calls Events or Facts. Events and Facts are listed together in Legacy and generally referred to as Events, but Legacy does use the section heading Events/Facts on the Individual's Information page and this is more accurate. Legacy has an Event named Land and the default sentence, if all fields are entered, is [HeShe] owned land [Desc] [onDate] [inPlace]. Having entered the information from your Land Records into the Land Event/Fact you would then cite the Land Records as the Source(s) for that information. You can either create a separate Event/Fact for each piece of land held, or list them all under the one heading. It's your choice. You will probably want to create one Master Source for all the records from one County, and if you chose to use just one Event/Fact you can use that Master Source with just one Source Detail, or cite the Master Source several times with variations (such as page number) in the Details. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
