Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-23 Thread Lynn Bernhard via LegacyUserGroup
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DNA Confusion - Not to mention Saxons, Romans, Picts, Gales, Indians, and 
others who have lived in the British Isles over the centuries. This very fact 
adds richness to the story our family trees share.Then you have Englishmen, 
Irishmen, and Scots who settled overseas and intermarried with local 
inhabitants and then brought their families back - American Indians, Maylay, 
Chinese, Japanese, Afghans, etc.  What a stew mix.
A classic story illustrating this is that of an Indian upper class noblewoman 
who married an Englishman who later emigrated to the wilds of the American 
west, settling in Cedar City, Utah.

Trying to match DNA reports with names researched and figure out how that pesky 
Inuit DNA got in your genes is quite interesting. 

Lynn Bernhard 
Taylorsville, Utah 

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 2:16:21 PM MST, Eliz Hanebury 
<elizhg...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 There are parts of the UK that are still mostly Scandinavian, and there were a 
large number of African slaves who intermarried and that is making no mention 
of Jews who became Christian under threat to complicate the DNA profile
On Jan 21, 2018 5:25 PM, "Hogrooter ." <dgadam...@gmail.com> wrote:

I had similar DNA inconsistencies.  Ancestry reported primarily Scandinavian, 
Irish and Western European. MyHeritage reported English and 
Irish/Scottish/Welsh.  The only possible explanation I have found is from a 
couple of sources:  They say that there can be a strong Scandinavian impact in 
England based on the large migrations in the 8th through the 11th centuries.  I 
have no idea if this is a valid reason for the differences.

Dean Adams


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On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Art Womer <art...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Billy Nyhan <audi...@indigo.ie> wrote:


Hi Kevin

Join the club-I had my DNA test results from MyHeritage last week. They gave no 
indication of my English ancestors for which I have documented evidence.  Both 
my maternal and paternal ancestors were English going back to at least  to 
1750. The DNA profile for England was 0.  I intend to cross check results with 
another DNA profiler.

Billy Nyhan
 From: Jerry Case Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:46 PMTo: 
legacyusergr...@legacyusers.co m Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test 
Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the 
autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be 
difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into Legacy 
would swell the files unacceptably.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

  
Hello,
 
 
 
I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my 
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test was 
an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.
 
 
 
The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests 
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the 
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor 
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English 
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic markers 
given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I 
have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather 
perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's 
ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!
 
 
 
Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
 
 
 
Best regards
 
Kevin Ferguson
 
 
   
www.abbydalesystems.com 
 
 
 
Numbers 6:24-26

  


 
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​Hi All,

I'm having issues with the MyHeritage DNA tests also. I've been researching for 
25+ years and basicall

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-23 Thread Eliz Hanebury
There are parts of the UK that are still mostly Scandinavian, and there
were a large number of African slaves who intermarried and that is making
no mention of Jews who became Christian under threat to complicate the DNA
profile

On Jan 21, 2018 5:25 PM, "Hogrooter ." <dgadam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had similar DNA inconsistencies.  Ancestry reported primarily
> Scandinavian, Irish and Western European. MyHeritage reported English and
> Irish/Scottish/Welsh.  The only possible explanation I have found is from a
> couple of sources:  They say that there can be a strong Scandinavian impact
> in England based on the large migrations in the 8th through the 11th
> centuries.  I have no idea if this is a valid reason for the differences.
>
> Dean Adams
>
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> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Art Womer <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Billy Nyhan <audi...@indigo.ie> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kevin
>>>
>>> Join the club-I had my DNA test results from MyHeritage last week. They
>>> gave no indication of my English ancestors for which I have documented
>>> evidence.  Both my maternal and paternal ancestors were English going
>>> back to at least  to 1750. The DNA profile for England was 0.  I intend
>>> to cross check results with another DNA profiler.
>>>
>>> Billy Nyhan
>>>
>>> *From:* Jerry Case
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:46 PM
>>> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>>>
>>> Kevin -
>>> This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that
>>> the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they
>>> would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results
>>> into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
>>> Jerry Case
>>> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and
>>> my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA
>>> test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA
>>> screen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
>>> tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match
>>> the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian
>>> nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the
>>> English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any
>>> Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was
>>> MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side.
>>> It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so
>>> puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the county of their
>>> births for 300 years!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Kevin Ferguson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.abbydalesystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Numbers 6:24-26
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Roberta Montpetit
I had mine done by Ancestry.  When the results came in (and the matches),
some of the people looked eerily like members of my family:  one of them
looks so much like my sister who passed away in 1973 in an automobile
accident that my brother came back with "are we sure that Clara is dead"!

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Jerry Case  wrote:

> I agree with Ian, especially on the primacy of FTDNA (Family Tree DNA)
> which is run by real geneticists. They are capable professionals.
> Generally speaking, you can trust Y-DNA pretty thoroughly but autosomal
> DNA requires a lot more research and education.  As others have stated,
> ethnicity tests depend upon the population which the particular DNA
> organization has used to build its data base.
> For genealogical purposes, in my opinion, DNA results are best used as
> hints for further documentary results.  The data is a tool rather than a
> specific source and it requires a lot of education for proper
> interpretation.
> Jerry Case
> On 1/21/2018 10:07 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
>
> Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not the
> viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either.
> Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were not
> at all known to each other and who are spread around the world, who
> submitted the DNA for testing.   Since then we have come close to verifying
> the relationships on paper .
>
> Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to get
> this far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has been
> fantastic,
>
> But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and propogate
> and the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.
>
> I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride under
> my Horn bearing stetson.
>
> Ian
>
>
> > On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
> >
> > 
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> > Monday, 22 January 2018 4:46 AM
> > Kevin -
> > This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that
> > the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they
> > would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw
> > results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
> > Jerry Case
> > On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Kevin Ferguson >
> > Monday, 22 January 2018 3:31 AM
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself
> > and my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree?
> > The DNA test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the
> > add DNA screen.
> >
> >
> > The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
> > tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't
> > match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North
> > African, Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors.
> > I agree with the English portion though :). It is a little bit
> > surprising not to find any Celtic markers given that my name is
> > Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented
> > proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing
> > and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors
> > didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!
> >
> >
> > Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Kevin Ferguson
> >
> >
> > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.
> abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7C%7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f844
> 08d561403a06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63
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> com=02%7C01%7C%7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f84408d561403a06%7C84d
> f9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636521850827701278&
> sdata=ikEDos8KGMLsw7mjCvMXdMQ41MLsW9w0T1Fs4%2BF%2BKfc%3D=0>
> >
> >
> > Numbers 6:24-26
> >
>
>
> 

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread johnbernacki1
LOL. There are definitely some absurd family trees out there.



John


From: CE WOOD 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 11:26 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

And, to top it all off, some dubious genealogies on the internet trace all of 
us back to Adam and Eve.  




Which, of course, means we all have the same ancestors. Kool-Aid anyone?






CE 






From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 4:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test 



Birth, marriage and death records are usually not available from thousands of 
years ago but I agree that mtDNA and Y-DNA can in some cases provide useful or 
interesting information, especially if you are very interested in tracing 
ethnicities and migrations.

For example, my mother’s ancestors were from a village at the base of Asiago 
Plateau in the mountains of northern Italy. I have very strong circumstantial 
or indirect evidence that those ancestors included people from the very top of 
the plateau who claim to be descendants of survivors of a tribe of Scandinavian 
Cimbri who invaded Italy and were almost wiped out 1,000 years ago. They 
remained quite insular for many centuries and there are still a few who speak 
the almost extinct language. My DNA supports the other evidence- it contains a 
lot of Scandinavian DNA and my mother’s mtDNA haplogroup is consistent with it 
coming from her side of my family. (I will keep trying to find the birth, death 
and marriage records that may connect me to the Cimbri. Meanwhile I enjoy 
telling relatives that everything, including DNA, points to us having ancestors 
from a “lost tribe” of Cimbri.)

MtDNA and Y-DNA can also provide “fun facts” about your ancestry from many 
thousands of years ago. The Genographic Project 2.0 provides a “Genius” matches 
with who you share DNA with. The relationships are so old that in one sense it 
is useless information but it is still fun. I have thirteen such matches from 
just my line of mtDNA another of Y-DNA. Some examples include:

Within the last 12,000 years I shared ancestors with both Queen Victoria and 
Nikola Tesla.

Between 45,000 and 65,000 years ago, I shared ancestors with Abraham Lincoln, 
Charles Darwin, Genghis Khan, King Tutankhamun and various other “geniuses”. 
Everybody would geniuses in their trees. 

It is very difficult to get your head around the complexity of DNA, and the 
more you dig, the more complex it becomes. I encourage everyone to persist in 
getting a reasonable understanding of how it may or may not assist genealogy 
research, before you spend a lot of money on it. Genealogy marketers can take 
advantage of your ignorance. 

To help guide your research, make sense of DNA and ethnicities, and “put flesh 
on the bones”, I strongly recommend researching the history of your ancestors’ 
villages and provinces- invasions, trade routes, waves of migration etc.

John

From: Ian Macaulay 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:11 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Yes indeed Mongolians in Italy will show as Mongolian.   However  given two 
beings and their DNA the comparisons of such will give you information.  That 
information may be of value to you or may not. 
I have been lucky in that several third party groups have been fascinated 
enough to explore My DNA lines ( By My I mean our, the DNA Group that I have 
been linked to),   There is a whole branch of science attached to determining 
the variations in each bit of the DNA, SNP's  and determining the time and 
distance between them.  

Keeping in mind My poor Friend MR. Denis ( ) who has had only the one hit 
for the past 12 Years,  He has no family through DNA.  If your relatives do not 
go up for testing , you will not find them.via the DNA test.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:04 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:

  Not so. DNA tests do not tell you about thousands of years ago. They match 
your DNA to what they have in their own database from others who have 
contributed. If a high percentage of Mongolians happen to now live in Italy, 
and have contributed to the database, you will be matched with Italy, not 
Mongolia. DNA misinformation is rampant and disturbing. If only reputable 
geneticists had the time and inclination to be involved with DNA testing for 
fun, we would all benefit.



  “DNA Done Right

  …how to use DNA in genealogy. 

  There are basically 2 kinds of DNA for that purpose: Y and mt. yDNA is 
transmitted by the father to his sons and only to them. mtDNA is transmitted by 
the mother to all her children, but only the daughters will transmit it to the 
next generation. 

  So what you have to prove is ONE line, not ALL lines. Or TWO lines (from 2 
te

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread CE WOOD
And, to top it all off, some dubious genealogies on the internet trace all of 
us back to Adam and Eve.  


Which, of course, means we all have the same ancestors. Kool-Aid anyone?



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 4:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test


Birth, marriage and death records are usually not available from thousands of 
years ago but I agree that mtDNA and Y-DNA can in some cases provide useful or 
interesting information, especially if you are very interested in tracing 
ethnicities and migrations.

For example, my mother’s ancestors were from a village at the base of Asiago 
Plateau in the mountains of northern Italy. I have very strong circumstantial 
or indirect evidence that those ancestors included people from the very top of 
the plateau who claim to be descendants of survivors of a tribe of Scandinavian 
Cimbri who invaded Italy and were almost wiped out 1,000 years ago. They 
remained quite insular for many centuries and there are still a few who speak 
the almost extinct language. My DNA supports the other evidence- it contains a 
lot of Scandinavian DNA and my mother’s mtDNA haplogroup is consistent with it 
coming from her side of my family. (I will keep trying to find the birth, death 
and marriage records that may connect me to the Cimbri. Meanwhile I enjoy 
telling relatives that everything, including DNA, points to us having ancestors 
from a “lost tribe” of Cimbri.)

MtDNA and Y-DNA can also provide “fun facts” about your ancestry from many 
thousands of years ago. The Genographic Project 2.0 provides a “Genius” matches 
with who you share DNA with. The relationships are so old that in one sense it 
is useless information but it is still fun. I have thirteen such matches from 
just my line of mtDNA another of Y-DNA. Some examples include:

Within the last 12,000 years I shared ancestors with both Queen Victoria and 
Nikola Tesla.

Between 45,000 and 65,000 years ago, I shared ancestors with Abraham Lincoln, 
Charles Darwin, Genghis Khan, King Tutankhamun and various other “geniuses”. 
Everybody would geniuses in their trees.

It is very difficult to get your head around the complexity of DNA, and the 
more you dig, the more complex it becomes. I encourage everyone to persist in 
getting a reasonable understanding of how it may or may not assist genealogy 
research, before you spend a lot of money on it. Genealogy marketers can take 
advantage of your ignorance.

To help guide your research, make sense of DNA and ethnicities, and “put flesh 
on the bones”, I strongly recommend researching the history of your ancestors’ 
villages and provinces- invasions, trade routes, waves of migration etc.

John

From: Ian Macaulay<mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>

Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:11 AM
To: Legacy User Group<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Yes indeed Mongolians in Italy will show as Mongolian.   However  given two 
beings and their DNA the comparisons of such will give you information.  That 
information may be of value to you or may not.
I have been lucky in that several third party groups have been fascinated 
enough to explore My DNA lines ( By My I mean our, the DNA Group that I have 
been linked to),   There is a whole branch of science attached to determining 
the variations in each bit of the DNA, SNP's  and determining the time and 
distance between them.

Keeping in mind My poor Friend MR. Denis ( ) who has had only the one hit 
for the past 12 Years,  He has no family through DNA.  If your relatives do not 
go up for testing , you will not find them.via the DNA test.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:04 PM, CE WOOD 
<wood...@msn.com<mailto:wood...@msn.com>> wrote:

Not so. DNA tests do not tell you about thousands of years ago. They match your 
DNA to what they have in their own database from others who have contributed. 
If a high percentage of Mongolians happen to now live in Italy, and have 
contributed to the database, you will be matched with Italy, not Mongolia. DNA 
misinformation is rampant and disturbing. If only reputable geneticists had the 
time and inclination to be involved with DNA testing for fun, we would all 
benefit.



“DNA Done Right

…how to use DNA in genealogy.

There are basically 2 kinds of DNA for that purpose: Y and mt. yDNA is 
transmitted by the father to his sons and only to them. mtDNA is transmitted by 
the mother to all her children, but only the daughters will transmit it to the 
next generation.

So what you have to prove is ONE line, not ALL lines. Or TWO lines (from 2 
tested to the common ancestors), one for each tested.

As to confirm a great-grandparent not in Y or mt line, then it would be by 
autosomal DNA.

At FTDNA, I found grand

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread johnbernacki1


Birth, marriage and death records are usually not available from thousands of 
years ago but I agree that mtDNA and Y-DNA can in some cases provide useful or 
interesting information, especially if you are very interested in tracing 
ethnicities and migrations.

For example, my mother’s ancestors were from a village at the base of Asiago 
Plateau in the mountains of northern Italy. I have very strong circumstantial 
or indirect evidence that those ancestors included people from the very top of 
the plateau who claim to be descendants of survivors of a tribe of Scandinavian 
Cimbri who invaded Italy and were almost wiped out 1,000 years ago. They 
remained quite insular for many centuries and there are still a few who speak 
the almost extinct language. My DNA supports the other evidence- it contains a 
lot of Scandinavian DNA and my mother’s mtDNA haplogroup is consistent with it 
coming from her side of my family. (I will keep trying to find the birth, death 
and marriage records that may connect me to the Cimbri. Meanwhile I enjoy 
telling relatives that everything, including DNA, points to us having ancestors 
from a “lost tribe” of Cimbri.)

MtDNA and Y-DNA can also provide “fun facts” about your ancestry from many 
thousands of years ago. The Genographic Project 2.0 provides a “Genius” matches 
with who you share DNA with. The relationships are so old that in one sense it 
is useless information but it is still fun. I have thirteen such matches from 
just my line of mtDNA another of Y-DNA. Some examples include:

Within the last 12,000 years I shared ancestors with both Queen Victoria and 
Nikola Tesla.

Between 45,000 and 65,000 years ago, I shared ancestors with Abraham Lincoln, 
Charles Darwin, Genghis Khan, King Tutankhamun and various other “geniuses”. 
Everybody would geniuses in their trees. 

It is very difficult to get your head around the complexity of DNA, and the 
more you dig, the more complex it becomes. I encourage everyone to persist in 
getting a reasonable understanding of how it may or may not assist genealogy 
research, before you spend a lot of money on it. Genealogy marketers can take 
advantage of your ignorance. 

To help guide your research, make sense of DNA and ethnicities, and “put flesh 
on the bones”, I strongly recommend researching the history of your ancestors’ 
villages and provinces- invasions, trade routes, waves of migration etc.

John


From: Ian Macaulay 

Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:11 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Yes indeed Mongolians in Italy will show as Mongolian.   However  given two 
beings and their DNA the comparisons of such will give you information.  That 
information may be of value to you or may not. 
I have been lucky in that several third party groups have been fascinated 
enough to explore My DNA lines ( By My I mean our, the DNA Group that I have 
been linked to),   There is a whole branch of science attached to determining 
the variations in each bit of the DNA, SNP's  and determining the time and 
distance between them.  

Keeping in mind My poor Friend MR. Denis ( ) who has had only the one hit 
for the past 12 Years,  He has no family through DNA.  If your relatives do not 
go up for testing , you will not find them.via the DNA test.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:04 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:

  Not so. DNA tests do not tell you about thousands of years ago. They match 
your DNA to what they have in their own database from others who have 
contributed. If a high percentage of Mongolians happen to now live in Italy, 
and have contributed to the database, you will be matched with Italy, not 
Mongolia. DNA misinformation is rampant and disturbing. If only reputable 
geneticists had the time and inclination to be involved with DNA testing for 
fun, we would all benefit.



  “DNA Done Right

  …how to use DNA in genealogy. 

  There are basically 2 kinds of DNA for that purpose: Y and mt. yDNA is 
transmitted by the father to his sons and only to them. mtDNA is transmitted by 
the mother to all her children, but only the daughters will transmit it to the 
next generation. 

  So what you have to prove is ONE line, not ALL lines. Or TWO lines (from 2 
tested to the common ancestors), one for each tested. 

  As to confirm a great-grandparent not in Y or mt line, then it would be by 
autosomal DNA. 

  At FTDNA, I found grand-parents who compared to their grand-sons. 

  Father vs son: shared 3,384 cM, 267 is the longest block. 

  In other words, we have 23 pairs of chromosomes and 1 of each of them is from 
the father. 

  For the next generation, grand-son to grand-parents, we have (rounded for 
privacy reasons) : 1300 to 2000 cM shared, or 40 to 60%. I have not found a 
ggparent, but it would be 40% of 40% to 60% of 60%, i.e. 16% to 36%. 

  So, for close relatives, we may estimate the relationship, but after 3 
generations, you are +/- 1 generation, i.e. accuracy i

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Ian Macaulay
ent relatives, 3rd cousins or closer, who are not of your paternal
> line, usually one does autosomal DNA. Autosomal DNA can identify, or
> confirm, ancestors at times as far back as the 16th century, but not at all
> reliably. At that distance one also runs into the likelihood of sharing
> more than one ancestral couple, and results that there is no way to make
> sense of.  I keep appearing to be descended from the Rev. Thomas Hooker
> family. The Hooker family repeatedly lived where my people lived, but
> we'd need better evidence than that if they shared more than the word of
> God with their congregations.
>
> For one's male line, one usually starts with 37 markers or 67 marker STR
> haplotype at Family Tree DNA.   67 marker is most useful down the road, but
> sometimes 37 markers yields enough information, especially in the unusual
> event one has no matches at all at that level.   Sometimes people want to
> know if they belong to a surname group but not where in the surname group
> they belong. One can do a 111 marker upgrade to see if a common ancestor
> lived very recently. Unlike the autosomal DNA test it can't specifically
> identify your father.
>
> SNPs come in handy if you aren't satisfied with your ancestral information
> at that point, or
>
> *3.  *I like the concept of affinity factors. LOL. The surprise that I
> found when I looked at my AS121210 cluster in more detail, is that London
> merchants were evidently trading Y DNA along with the furs and wool, and
> even a financier in the system picked it up. It also wouldn't surprise me
> if the Y DNA focused on groups who were particularly interested in the
> settlement of the colonies.
>
> I'll drop dead from astonishment if I ever identify a surname behind the
> cluster, or even a family.
>
> *4.  *I can clearly see that I'm not going to establish the age of this
> cluster more closely than within one to two hundred years either way.
>
> *5.  *Digging up the ancestor is all of our dream.
>
> [SGM, Using Y DNA for medieval genealogy, Dora Smith, 7/30/2017]”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> On 21-Jan-18 07:31 PM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
> > The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
> > tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't
> > match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African,
> > Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree
> > with the English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to
> > find any Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal
> > grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on
> > my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it
> > should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the
> > county of their births for 300 years!
>
> As I understand it, DNA tests which tell you what your ethnic heritage
> is tell you about your heritate from THOUSANDS of years ago.  With all
> due respect, I don't suppose you have documentary proof going back that
> far!
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread CE WOOD
sfied with your ancestral information at 
that point, or
3.  I like the concept of affinity factors. LOL. The surprise that I found when 
I looked at my AS121210 cluster in more detail, is that London merchants were 
evidently trading Y DNA along with the furs and wool, and even a financier in 
the system picked it up. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Y DNA focused on 
groups who were particularly interested in the settlement of the colonies.
I'll drop dead from astonishment if I ever identify a surname behind the 
cluster, or even a family.
4.  I can clearly see that I'm not going to establish the age of this cluster 
more closely than within one to two hundred years either way.
5.  Digging up the ancestor is all of our dream.

[SGM, Using Y DNA for medieval genealogy, Dora Smith, 7/30/2017]"






CE




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On 21-Jan-18 07:31 PM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
> The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
> tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't
> match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African,
> Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree
> with the English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to
> find any Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal
> grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on
> my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it
> should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the
> county of their births for 300 years!

As I understand it, DNA tests which tell you what your ethnic heritage
is tell you about your heritate from THOUSANDS of years ago.  With all
due respect, I don't suppose you have documentary proof going back that far!

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Carl Cox
I have several extensive databases on some of my lines, like 25000 individuals. 
I sent in my sample to MyHeritage, and was pleasantly surprised at the number 
of correct cousins they identified.
Carl

From: Jerry Case 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 12:47 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

I agree with Ian, especially on the primacy of FTDNA (Family Tree DNA) which is 
run by real geneticists. They are capable professionals.
Generally speaking, you can trust Y-DNA pretty thoroughly but autosomal DNA 
requires a lot more research and education.  As others have stated, ethnicity 
tests depend upon the population which the particular DNA organization has used 
to build its data base.
For genealogical purposes, in my opinion, DNA results are best used as hints 
for further documentary results.  The data is a tool rather than a specific 
source and it requires a lot of education for proper interpretation.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 10:07 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:

  Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not the 
viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either. 
  Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were not at 
all known to each other and who are spread around the world, who submitted the 
DNA for testing.   Since then we have come close to verifying the relationships 
on paper .  

  Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to get 
this far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has been 
fantastic,  

  But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and propogate and 
the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.  

  I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride under my 
Horn bearing stetson.

  Ian



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  > Monday, 22 January 2018 4:46 AM
  > Kevin -
  > This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that 
  > the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they 
  > would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw 
  > results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
  > Jerry Case
  > On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
  >
  >
  > Kevin Ferguson <mailto:kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
  > Monday, 22 January 2018 3:31 AM
  >
  > Hello,
  >
  >
  > I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself 
  > and my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? 
  > The DNA test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the 
  > add DNA screen.
  >
  >
  > The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the 
  > tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't 
  > match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North 
  > African, Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. 
  > I agree with the English portion though :). It is a little bit 
  > surprising not to find any Celtic markers given that my name is 
  > Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented 
  > proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing 
  > and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors 
  > didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!
  >
  >
  > Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
  >
  > Best regards
  >
  > Kevin Ferguson
  >
  >
  > 
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 21-Jan-18 07:31 PM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the 
tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't 
match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, 
Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree 
with the English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to 
find any Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal 
grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on 
my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it 
should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the 
county of their births for 300 years!


As I understand it, DNA tests which tell you what your ethnic heritage 
is tell you about your heritate from THOUSANDS of years ago.  With all 
due respect, I don't suppose you have documentary proof going back that far!


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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Jerry Case
I agree with Ian, especially on the primacy of FTDNA (Family Tree DNA) 
which is run by real geneticists. They are capable professionals.
Generally speaking, you can trust Y-DNA pretty thoroughly but autosomal 
DNA requires a lot more research and education.  As others have stated, 
ethnicity tests depend upon the population which the particular DNA 
organization has used to build its data base.
For genealogical purposes, in my opinion, DNA results are best used as 
hints for further documentary results.  The data is a tool rather than a 
specific source and it requires a lot of education for proper 
interpretation.

Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 10:07 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not 
the viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either.
Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were 
not at all known to each other and who are spread around the world, 
who submitted the DNA for testing.   Since then we have come close to 
verifying the relationships on paper .


Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to 
get this far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has 
been fantastic,


But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and 
propogate and the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.


I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride 
under my Horn bearing stetson.


Ian



> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
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> Jerry Case 
> Monday, 22 January 2018 4:46 AM
> Kevin -
> This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that
> the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they
> would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw
> results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
> Jerry Case
> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
>
>
> Kevin Ferguson 
> Monday, 22 January 2018 3:31 AM
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself
> and my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree?
> The DNA test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the
> add DNA screen.
>
>
> The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
> tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't
> match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North
> African, Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors.
> I agree with the English portion though :). It is a little bit
> surprising not to find any Celtic markers given that my name is
> Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented
> proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing
> and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors
> didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!
>
>
> Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
>
> Best regards
>
> Kevin Ferguson
>
>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread Leeanne Broyd
Please can someone help me.

Ive recently bought legacy 9 and im reading through the manual. However when it 
comes to adding dna records there really isnt much information on how to do it 
correctly.  Myself, and both parents have all done the ancestry test and my dad 
has also done the family tree y-dna test. I would really like to add these to 
my legacy.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you

Leeanne



Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2

 Original message 
From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Date: 22/01/2018 09:00 (GMT+00:00)
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

I have not researched MyHeritage DNA testing but maybe it is like Ancestry and 
only tests autosomal DNA- not mtDNA or Y-DNA. Autosomal DNA mostly helps for 
the last few generations and virtually fizzles out completely after about 5 
generations. If you want to way back e.g. thousands of years, you must have 
your mtDNA and/or Y-DNA tested. But of course companies like Ancestry do not 
mention that in their advertising. In my opinion they are deliberately 
misleading.
I had my DNA tested in Genographic Project 2.0 via National Geographic. They 
test all three types of DNA.
John

From: Ian Macaulay<mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 5:07 PM
To: Legacy User Group<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not the 
viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either.
Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were not at all 
known to each other and who are spread around the world, who submitted the DNA 
for testing.   Since then we have come close to verifying the relationships on 
paper .

Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to get this 
far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has been fantastic,

But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and propogate and 
the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.

I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride under my 
Horn bearing stetson.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:26 AM, CE WOOD 
<wood...@msn.com<mailto:wood...@msn.com>> wrote:

The popular DNA tests match you with people who have similar DNA live NOW!



They do NOT match you with the place from which your DNA may have originated!



This misconception is fostered by the sites that are deluding you.





CE



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 on behalf of Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com<mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:30 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

The least valid part of a DNA test is the ethnicity estimate.

Load your results to GedMatch. They have a number of different options
for calculating your ethnicity - but that's just for fun.

The real results are the matches you have with other people.
Understanding those results takes patience as there's a learning curve.
I know I've barely started on that. The value is being able to see
significant matches to other people and thus after further research
being able to confirm or disprove your research with DNA.

There are lots of webinars on understanding DNA and the various test
results.
If you're going to capitalise on the investment you've made in getting
your DNA tested, then you should invest in learning how to use the results.

There are various discussions on how people are using Legacy to track
matches including this one from Michele in the Legacy blog.
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Cathy


> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Monday, 22 January 2018 10:06 AM
>
> You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly
> complicated. If you research your family, research DNA testing!
>
>
> The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of
> privacy concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to
> obtain medical insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The
> results are a joke, as well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT
> they may impact your whole life and those of your descendants because
> the false results are available the highest bidder.
>
>
> By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.
>
>
> CE
>
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUse

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-22 Thread johnbernacki1
I have not researched MyHeritage DNA testing but maybe it is like Ancestry and 
only tests autosomal DNA- not mtDNA or Y-DNA. Autosomal DNA mostly helps for 
the last few generations and virtually fizzles out completely after about 5 
generations. If you want to way back e.g. thousands of years, you must have 
your mtDNA and/or Y-DNA tested. But of course companies like Ancestry do not 
mention that in their advertising. In my opinion they are deliberately 
misleading.

I had my DNA tested in Genographic Project 2.0 via National Geographic. They 
test all three types of DNA.

John


From: Ian Macaulay 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 5:07 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not the 
viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either. 
Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were not at all 
known to each other and who are spread around the world, who submitted the DNA 
for testing.   Since then we have come close to verifying the relationships on 
paper .  

Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to get this 
far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has been fantastic,  

But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and propogate and 
the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.  

I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride under my 
Horn bearing stetson.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:26 AM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:

  The popular DNA tests match you with people who have similar DNA live NOW!



  They do NOT match you with the place from which your DNA may have originated!



  This misconception is fostered by the sites that are deluding you.





  CE 




--

  From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: Legacy User Group
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test 

  The least valid part of a DNA test is the ethnicity estimate.

  Load your results to GedMatch. They have a number of different options 
  for calculating your ethnicity - but that's just for fun.

  The real results are the matches you have with other people. 
  Understanding those results takes patience as there's a learning curve. 
  I know I've barely started on that. The value is being able to see 
  significant matches to other people and thus after further research 
  being able to confirm or disprove your research with DNA.

  There are lots of webinars on understanding DNA and the various test 
  results.
  If you're going to capitalise on the investment you've made in getting 
  your DNA tested, then you should invest in learning how to use the results.

  There are various discussions on how people are using Legacy to track 
  matches including this one from Michele in the Legacy blog.
  
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.legacyfamilytree.com%2Flegacy_news%2F2017%2F08%2Fhow-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html=02%7C01%7C%7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f84408d561403a06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636521850827701278=Nd0T9Sq5TVBcjWVH7pwI%2B48qwXspEKQSdkyNmsXwin8%3D=0

  Cathy


  > CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
  > Monday, 22 January 2018 10:06 AM
  >
  > You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly 
  > complicated. If you research your family, research DNA testing!
  >
  >
  > The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of 
  > privacy concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to 
  > obtain medical insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The 
  > results are a joke, as well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT 
  > they may impact your whole life and those of your descendants because 
  > the false results are available the highest bidder.
  >
  >
  > By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.
  >
  >
  > CE
  >
  >
  > 
  > *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
  > behalf of Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz>
  > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:09 PM
  > *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
  > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
  >
  > This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that 
  > the current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the 
  > commercial profiting from a quite recent and important scientific 
  > discovery, than adding any certainty to our family tree.
  >
  > Edward
  >
  > *From:*LegacyUserGroup 
  > [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ward 
  > Walk

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Ian Macaulay
Now that is not quite true,   My DNA proved conclusively that I am not the
viking I believed I was and for that matter not the Scott Either.
Turns out that we are Irish and there are at least 16 of us who were not at
all known to each other and who are spread around the world, who submitted
the DNA for testing.   Since then we have come close to verifying the
relationships on paper .

Now to be clear this was YDNA, ( male line) and it has taken years to get
this far.  I do not know about the other companies but FTDNA has been
fantastic,

But it only takes one boat full of Asians to land in Norway and propogate
and the gene pool is now fuzzy as all get out.

I wear my Kilt and cowboy boots, and carry my Shillelagh with pride under
my Horn bearing stetson.

Ian

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:26 AM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:

> The popular DNA tests match you with people who have similar DNA live NOW!
>
>
> They do NOT match you with the place from which your DNA may have
> originated!
>
>
> This misconception is fostered by the sites that are deluding you.
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:30 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
> The least valid part of a DNA test is the ethnicity estimate.
>
> Load your results to GedMatch. They have a number of different options
> for calculating your ethnicity - but that's just for fun.
>
> The real results are the matches you have with other people.
> Understanding those results takes patience as there's a learning curve.
> I know I've barely started on that. The value is being able to see
> significant matches to other people and thus after further research
> being able to confirm or disprove your research with DNA.
>
> There are lots of webinars on understanding DNA and the various test
> results.
> If you're going to capitalise on the investment you've made in getting
> your DNA tested, then you should invest in learning how to use the results.
>
> There are various discussions on how people are using Legacy to track
> matches including this one from Michele in the Legacy blog.
> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.
> legacyfamilytree.com%2Flegacy_news%2F2017%2F08%2Fhow-i-use-
> hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html=02%7C01%7C%
> 7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f84408d561403a06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
> %7C1%7C0%7C636521850827701278=Nd0T9Sq5TVBcjWVH7pwI%
> 2B48qwXspEKQSdkyNmsXwin8%3D=0
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com <wood...@msn.com>>
> > Monday, 22 January 2018 10:06 AM
> >
> > You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly
> > complicated. If you research your family, research DNA testing!
> >
> >
> > The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of
> > privacy concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to
> > obtain medical insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The
> > results are a joke, as well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT
> > they may impact your whole life and those of your descendants because
> > the false results are available the highest bidder.
> >
> >
> > By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.
> >
> >
> > CE
> >
> >
> > --------
> > *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> > behalf of Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz>
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:09 PM
> > *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
> >
> > This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that
> > the current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the
> > commercial profiting from a quite recent and important scientific
> > discovery, than adding any certainty to our family tree.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> > [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ward
> > Walker
> > *Sent:* Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
> > *To:* Legacy User Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
> >
> > Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches
> > or triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).
> >
> > I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a
> > bl

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread CE WOOD
The popular DNA tests match you with people who have similar DNA live NOW!


They do NOT match you with the place from which your DNA may have originated!


This misconception is fostered by the sites that are deluding you.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:30 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

The least valid part of a DNA test is the ethnicity estimate.

Load your results to GedMatch. They have a number of different options
for calculating your ethnicity - but that's just for fun.

The real results are the matches you have with other people.
Understanding those results takes patience as there's a learning curve.
I know I've barely started on that. The value is being able to see
significant matches to other people and thus after further research
being able to confirm or disprove your research with DNA.

There are lots of webinars on understanding DNA and the various test
results.
If you're going to capitalise on the investment you've made in getting
your DNA tested, then you should invest in learning how to use the results.

There are various discussions on how people are using Legacy to track
matches including this one from Michele in the Legacy blog.
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.legacyfamilytree.com%2Flegacy_news%2F2017%2F08%2Fhow-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html=02%7C01%7C%7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f84408d561403a06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636521850827701278=Nd0T9Sq5TVBcjWVH7pwI%2B48qwXspEKQSdkyNmsXwin8%3D=0

Cathy


> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Monday, 22 January 2018 10:06 AM
>
> You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly
> complicated. If you research your family, research DNA testing!
>
>
> The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of
> privacy concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to
> obtain medical insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The
> results are a joke, as well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT
> they may impact your whole life and those of your descendants because
> the false results are available the highest bidder.
>
>
> By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.
>
>
> CE
>
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:09 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
> This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that
> the current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the
> commercial profiting from a quite recent and important scientific
> discovery, than adding any certainty to our family tree.
>
> Edward
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ward
> Walker
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
> Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches
> or triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).
>
> I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a
> black art. Different companies produce different results. And how far
> back do you go? If a British ancestor has ancestors that originally
> came from Normandy in the 11th century, is that British or NW Europe?
> My Italian ancestry is partly shown as Iberian and Greek, even though
> those people came to Italy several hundred years ago.
>
>Ward
>
> *From:*Jerry Case
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:46 PM
>
> *To:*legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>
> *Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
> Kevin -
> This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that
> the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they
> would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw
> results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
> Jerry Case
> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
>
> --
>
> /Visit the Genealogical Society of South Whidbey Island/
> *https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.gsswi.org=02%7C01%7C%7Ccbb6b2657e3646e1f84408d561403a06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636521850827701278=SRC8aTS6WpBlP72xmUAKKfn7BBhuKpQMaCobBAY%2B6xU%3D=0
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Cathy Pinner

The least valid part of a DNA test is the ethnicity estimate.

Load your results to GedMatch. They have a number of different options 
for calculating your ethnicity - but that's just for fun.


The real results are the matches you have with other people. 
Understanding those results takes patience as there's a learning curve. 
I know I've barely started on that. The value is being able to see 
significant matches to other people and thus after further research 
being able to confirm or disprove your research with DNA.


There are lots of webinars on understanding DNA and the various test 
results.
If you're going to capitalise on the investment you've made in getting 
your DNA tested, then you should invest in learning how to use the results.


There are various discussions on how people are using Legacy to track 
matches including this one from Michele in the Legacy blog.

http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html

Cathy



CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
Monday, 22 January 2018 10:06 AM

You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly 
complicated. If you research your family, research DNA testing!



The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of 
privacy concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to 
obtain medical insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The 
results are a joke, as well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT 
they may impact your whole life and those of your descendants because 
the false results are available the highest bidder.



By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
behalf of Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz>

*Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:09 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group'
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that 
the current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the 
commercial profiting from a quite recent and important scientific 
discovery, than adding any certainty to our family tree.


Edward

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ward 
Walker

*Sent:* Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches 
or triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).


I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a 
black art. Different companies produce different results. And how far 
back do you go? If a British ancestor has ancestors that originally 
came from Normandy in the 11th century, is that British or NW Europe? 
My Italian ancestry is partly shown as Iberian and Greek, even though 
those people came to Italy several hundred years ago.


   Ward

*From:*Jerry Case

*Sent:*Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:46 PM

*To:*legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>


*Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that 
the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they 
would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw 
results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.

Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

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Agree, and you can create events or notes to document s

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread CE WOOD
You are absolutely correct. Ask any geneticist! It is incredibly complicated. 
If you research your family, research DNA testing!


The whole premise is flawed, to say nothing of the total lack of privacy 
concerning your results. Those may well affect your ability to obtain medical 
insurance and even employment. There is NO privacy. The results are a joke, as 
well documented, both here and elsewhere, BUT they may impact your whole life 
and those of your descendants because the false results are available the 
highest bidder.


By the way, I have a bridge to sell you.


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:09 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test


This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that the current 
obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the commercial profiting 
from a quite recent and important scientific discovery, than adding any 
certainty to our family tree.

Edward



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ward Walker
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test



Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches or 
triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).



I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a black art. 
Different companies produce different results. And how far back do you go? If a 
British ancestor has ancestors that originally came from Normandy in the 11th 
century, is that British or NW Europe? My Italian ancestry is partly shown as 
Iberian and Greek, even though those people came to Italy several hundred years 
ago.



   Ward



From: Jerry Case

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:46 PM

To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test



Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the 
autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be 
difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into Legacy 
would swell the files unacceptably.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

Hello,



I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my 
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test was 
an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.



The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests 
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the 
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor 
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English 
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic markers 
given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I 
have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather 
perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's 
ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!



Any assistance would be greatfullly received.



Best regards

Kevin Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread steven perkins
If you took the MyHeritage autosomal DNA test, you can transfer the results
to Family Tree DNA and get their analysis of your ethnic ancestry. You can
also transfer to GEDMATCH.com and see what ethnicity they find for you.

Ethnicity estimates beyond continental origins, Africa, Europe, Asia,
depend on the people in the databases you are being compared to. Each
company uses a different set of people for comparison purposes. If your
ancestors were in the US before the Civil War, European Americans can have
up to 5% African ancestry; African American males can have up to 30%
European ancestry; African American females have up to 5% European
ancestry. See reports from 23andMe about the ethic composition of the US
population.

After about 6 generations back, it is unusual to find evidence of Native
American ancestry in the autosomal tests. Y DNA and mtDNA can show that you
have Native American, or African, ancestry in your direct paternal or
direct maternal line due to the way Y DNA and mtDNA are inherited.

I hope this helps explain some of the unexpected results.

Steven



On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Edward Fenn <edwardf...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that the
> current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the commercial
> profiting from a quite recent and important scientific discovery, than
> adding any certainty to our family tree.
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ward Walker
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
> *To:* Legacy User Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
>
>
> Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches or
> triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).
>
>
>
> I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a black
> art. Different companies produce different results. And how far back do you
> go? If a British ancestor has ancestors that originally came from Normandy
> in the 11th century, is that British or NW Europe? My Italian ancestry is
> partly shown as Iberian and Greek, even though those people came to Italy
> several hundred years ago.
>
>
>
>Ward
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Edward Fenn
This little flurry of erroneous DNA results reinforces my view that the
current obsession with DNA as a genealogy tool serves more the commercial
profiting from a quite recent and important scientific discovery, than
adding any certainty to our family tree.

Edward

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ward Walker
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 a.m.
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

 

Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches or
triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).

 

I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a black
art. Different companies produce different results. And how far back do you
go? If a British ancestor has ancestors that originally came from Normandy
in the 11th century, is that British or NW Europe? My Italian ancestry is
partly shown as Iberian and Greek, even though those people came to Italy
several hundred years ago.

 

   Ward

 

From: Jerry Case 

Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:46 PM

To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

 

Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the
autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be
difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into
Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

Hello,

 

I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test
was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.

 

The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic
markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was
MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side.
It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling.
My father's ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300
years!

 

Any assistance would be greatfullly received.

 

Best regards

Kevin Ferguson

 

www.abbydalesystems.com 

 

Numbers 6:24-26





 

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Hogrooter .
I had similar DNA inconsistencies.  Ancestry reported primarily
Scandinavian, Irish and Western European. MyHeritage reported English and
Irish/Scottish/Welsh.  The only possible explanation I have found is from a
couple of sources:  They say that there can be a strong Scandinavian impact
in England based on the large migrations in the 8th through the 11th
centuries.  I have no idea if this is a valid reason for the differences.

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Art Womer <art...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Billy Nyhan <audi...@indigo.ie> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin
>>
>> Join the club-I had my DNA test results from MyHeritage last week. They
>> gave no indication of my English ancestors for which I have documented
>> evidence.  Both my maternal and paternal ancestors were English going
>> back to at least  to 1750. The DNA profile for England was 0.  I intend
>> to cross check results with another DNA profiler.
>>
>> Billy Nyhan
>>
>> *From:* Jerry Case
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:46 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>>
>> Kevin -
>> This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the
>> autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be
>> difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into
>> Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
>> Jerry Case
>> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and
>> my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA
>> test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA
>> screen.
>>
>>
>>
>> The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
>> tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match
>> the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian
>> nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the
>> English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any
>> Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was
>> MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side.
>> It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so
>> puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the county of their
>> births for 300 years!
>>
>>
>>
>> Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Kevin Ferguson
>>
>>
>>
>> www.abbydalesystems.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Numbers 6:24-26
>>
>>
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm having issues with the MyHeritage DNA tests also. I've been
> researching for 25+ years and basically know that my ancestors came from
> Ireland, Germany and French/Canada (France). MyHeritage is showing English
> as the majority, East European, Iberian Pen, North African and Nigerian.
> Have heard 10 to 12 stories that MyHeritage DNA tests aren't what their
> said to be, that the people who've had the test done also had Ancestery and
> 23 done with the latter 2 showing correct ancestory line. Don't know if
> I;ve been duped or not, but leaning that way. Sorry I didn't go with
> Ancestery or 23​
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Art Womer
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Billy Nyhan <audi...@indigo.ie> wrote:

> Hi Kevin
>
> Join the club-I had my DNA test results from MyHeritage last week. They
> gave no indication of my English ancestors for which I have documented
> evidence.  Both my maternal and paternal ancestors were English going
> back to at least  to 1750. The DNA profile for England was 0.  I intend
> to cross check results with another DNA profiler.
>
> Billy Nyhan
>
> *From:* Jerry Case
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:46 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
>
> Kevin -
> This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the
> autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be
> difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into
> Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.
> Jerry Case
> On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and
> my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA
> test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA
> screen.
>
>
>
> The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the
> tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match
> the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian
> nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the
> English portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any
> Celtic markers given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was
> MacDonald and I have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side.
> It is all rather perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so
> puzzling. My father's ancestors didn't even leave the county of their
> births for 300 years!
>
>
>
> Any assistance would be greatfullly received.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Kevin Ferguson
>
>
>
> www.abbydalesystems.com
>
>
>
> Numbers 6:24-26
>
>
>
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Hi All,

I'm having issues with the MyHeritage DNA tests also. I've been researching
for 25+ years and basically know that my ancestors came from Ireland,
Germany and French/Canada (France). MyHeritage is showing English as the
majority, East European, Iberian Pen, North African and Nigerian. Have
heard 10 to 12 stories that MyHeritage DNA tests aren't what their said to
be, that the people who've had the test done also had Ancestery and 23
done with the latter 2 showing correct ancestory line. Don't know if I;ve
been duped or not, but leaning that way. Sorry I didn't go with Ancestery
or 23​



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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Billy Nyhan
Hi Kevin

Join the club-I had my DNA test results from MyHeritage last week. They gave no 
indication of my English ancestors for which I have documented evidence.  Both 
my maternal and paternal ancestors were English going back to at least  to 
1750. The DNA profile for England was 0.  I intend to cross check results with 
another DNA profiler.

Billy Nyhan


From: Jerry Case 
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 8:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the 
autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be 
difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into Legacy 
would swell the files unacceptably.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

  Hello,



  I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my 
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test was 
an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.



  The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests 
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the 
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor 
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English 
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic markers 
given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I 
have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather 
perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's 
ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!



  Any assistance would be greatfullly received.



  Best regards

  Kevin Ferguson



  www.abbydalesystems.com 



  Numbers 6:24-26


   



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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Ward Walker
Agree, and you can create events or notes to document specific matches or 
triangulations that you might find (as you could with Y-DNA matches).

I think that the broad ethnic background tests are still a bit of a black art. 
Different companies produce different results. And how far back do you go? If a 
British ancestor has ancestors that originally came from Normandy in the 11th 
century, is that British or NW Europe? My Italian ancestry is partly shown as 
Iberian and Greek, even though those people came to Italy several hundred years 
ago.

   Ward

From: Jerry Case 
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 3:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that the 
autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they would be 
difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw results into Legacy 
would swell the files unacceptably.
Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:

  Hello,



  I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my 
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test was 
an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.



  The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests 
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the 
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor 
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English 
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic markers 
given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I 
have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather 
perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's 
ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!



  Any assistance would be greatfullly received.



  Best regards

  Kevin Ferguson



  www.abbydalesystems.com 



  Numbers 6:24-26


   



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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Jerry Case

Kevin -
This has been discussed before and, as I remember, the answer is that 
the autosomal results are too massive to include in Legacy. Plus, they 
would be difficult to interpret in Legacy. Putting the lengthy raw 
results into Legacy would swell the files unacceptably.

Jerry Case
On 1/21/2018 11:31 AM, Kevin Ferguson wrote:


Hello,


I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself 
and my wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? 
The DNA test was an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the 
add DNA screen.



The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the 
tests would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't 
match the research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North 
African, Nigerian nor Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. 
I agree with the English portion though :). It is a little bit 
surprising not to find any Celtic markers given that my name is 
Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I have documented 
proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather perplexing 
and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's ancestors 
didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!



Any assistance would be greatfullly received.

Best regards

Kevin Ferguson


www.abbydalesystems.com 


Numbers 6:24-26





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[LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-21 Thread Kevin Ferguson
Hello,


I have the results from a Myhertiage DNA test. I have one for myself and my 
wife. How do I go about adding this to my Legacy family tree? The DNA test was 
an autosumal test but I don't see that listed on the add DNA screen.


The results  are rather intriguing and I have no idea how far back the tests 
would go back to but as far as I can see the test results don't match the 
research I have (I am back to 1780). I find no North African, Nigerian nor 
Finnish connection in my direct line ancestors. I agree with the English 
portion though :). It is a little bit surprising not to find any Celtic markers 
given that my name is Ferguson, my paternal grandmother was MacDonald and I 
have documented proof of Scottish kin on my mother's side. It is all rather 
perplexing and I have no idea why it should be so puzzling. My father's 
ancestors didn't even leave the county of their births for 300 years!


Any assistance would be greatfullly received.



Best regards

Kevin Ferguson


www.abbydalesystems.com


Numbers 6:24-26
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Cathy Pinner

Leo,

You can download your MyHeritage test results but they won't make any 
sense even if you can open the file. It will be several MB.


You can upload this file to the free gedmatch.com to see more details as 
Gedmatch has chromosone browsers. Gedmatch enables you to compare with 
all other people who have uploaded their results to Gedmatch and have 
numbers of tools. It's not easy but you can do heaps more with your results.

They also have a pay option with more tools. I haven't ventured there yet.

Here's the directions of how to download from MyHeritage and upload to 
GedMatch.

https://www.gedmatch.com/gedwiki/index.php?title=MyHeritage_DNA_Upload

Cathy



Leo MacDonald <mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com>
Sunday, 3 December 2017 11:10 PM

Hi Cathy,


Yes maybe I do need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests but when 
they do not send you any results of the test it is very hard to 
document the results. They only let you know possible matches that you 
may be related to. That is what I was disappointed about. I took an 
Ancestry's Advanced Paternal Lineage Test (Y-Chromoson 46) a few years 
ago and got the results from them which I entered into my Legacy 
program, I had expected to get a more advanced DNA test from 
MyHeritage, but I didn't get anything other than I may be related to 
several second or third cousins several times removed. Just not what I 
had expected.



Leo




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*Sent:* December 3, 2017 12:00 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test
Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test 
into Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.

You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you 
do on your DNA matches.

There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using 
Legacy to track your DNA match research.

<http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

Leo MacDonald wrote:
Leo MacDonald <mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com>
Sunday, 3 December 2017 11:08 AM


Hi Kevin,


I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program, 
I was quite disappointed to learn that what I had expected to receive 
will not happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired 
about my DNA results.




There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the 
y-DNA test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information. 
MyHeritage offers the /*autosomal*/ DNA test
The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy, 
designed to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA 
matches with MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.


Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first 
44 'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes 
determining your gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses 
the DNA inherited from both your mother and father, four grandparents, 
eight great-grandparents, and so on - to provide a breakdown of your 
ethnic percentages and connect you with relatives descended from any 
of your ancestral lines within approximately the last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results 
are not limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.



Leo



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behalf of Kevin Ferguson <kevinf2...@hotmail.com>

*Sent:* December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know 
how to input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in 
the "Individual Information" screen but didn't see an entry for 
MyHeritage DNA service. I find this odd as the email I got from Legacy 
seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage DNA kits.



Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


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Kevin Ferguson <mailto:kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
Sunday, 3 December 2017 6:42 AM

Hi 

Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Leo MacDonald
Hi Cathy,

Yes maybe I do need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests but when they do not 
send you any results of the test it is very hard to document the results. They 
only let you know possible matches that you may be related to. That is what I 
was disappointed about. I took an Ancestry's Advanced Paternal Lineage Test 
(Y-Chromoson 46) a few years ago and got the results from them which I entered 
into my Legacy program, I had expected to get a more advanced DNA test from 
MyHeritage, but I didn't get anything other than I may be related to several 
second or third cousins several times removed. Just not what I had expected.

Leo
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Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 3, 2017 12:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test into 
Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.
You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you do on your 
DNA matches.
There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using Legacy to 
track your DNA match research.
< 
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Leo MacDonald
Hi Cathy,


Yes maybe I do need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests but when they do not 
send you any results of the test it is very hard to document the results. They 
only let you know possible matches that you may be related to. That is what I 
was disappointed about. I took an Ancestry's Advanced Paternal Lineage Test 
(Y-Chromoson 46) a few years ago and got the results from them which I entered 
into my Legacy program, I had expected to get a more advanced DNA test from 
MyHeritage, but I didn't get anything other than I may be related to several 
second or third cousins several times removed. Just not what I had expected.


Leo



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 3, 2017 12:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test into 
Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.
You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you do on your 
DNA matches.
There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using Legacy to 
track your DNA match research.
< 
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Leo MacDonald
Hi Cathy,


Yes maybe I do need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests but when they do not 
send you any results of the test it is very hard to document the results. They 
only let you know possible matches that you may be related to. That is what I 
was disappointed about. I took an Ancestry's Advanced Paternal Lineage Test 
(Y-Chromoson 46) a few years ago and got the results from them which I entered 
into my Legacy program, I had expected to get a more advanced DNA test from 
MyHeritage, but I didn't get anything other than I may be related to several 
second or third cousins several times removed. Just not what I had expected.


Leo



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 3, 2017 12:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test into 
Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.
You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you do on your 
DNA matches.
There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using Legacy to 
track your DNA match research.
< 
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Leo MacDonald
Hi Cathy,


Yes maybe I do need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests but when they do not 
send you any results of the test it is very hard to document the results. They 
only let you know possible matches that you may be related to. That is what I 
was disappointed about. I took an Ancestry's Advanced Paternal Lineage Test 
(Y-Chromoson 46) a few years ago and got the results from them which I entered 
into my Legacy program, I had expected to get a more advanced DNA test from 
MyHeritage, but I didn't get anything other than I may be related to several 
second or third cousins several times removed. Just not what I had expected.


Leo



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: December 3, 2017 12:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test into 
Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.
You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you do on your 
DNA matches.
There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using Legacy to 
track your DNA match research.
<http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

Leo MacDonald wrote:


Hi Kevin,


I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program,
I was quite disappoint ed to learn that what I had expected to receive
will not happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired
about my DNA results.



There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the
y-DNA test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information.
MyHeritage offers the /*autosomal*/ DNA test
The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy,
designed to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA
matches with MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.

Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first
44 'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes
determining your gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses
the DNA inherited from both your mother and father, four grandparents,
eight great-grandparents, and so on - to provide a breakdown of your
ethnic percentages and connect you with relatives descended from any
of your ancestral lines within approximately the last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results
are not limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.


Leo



*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
behalf of Kevin Ferguson <kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
*Sent:* December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know
how to input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in
the "Individual Information" screen but didn't see an entry for
MyHeritage DNA service. I find this odd as the email I got from Legacy
seemed to be endorsing the MyH eritage DNA kits.


Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


www.abbydalesystems.com
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7Cmacdonaldleo%40hotmail.com%7C9ca663b118374a49911108d539d627cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636478514305915713=HwFgjMKcwheWMSvzpw3n8IS65hzuSnTeG%2BbKgxLBUrc%3D=0>


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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-03 Thread Carrie Pillow
I use  the story feature

I add the as you can share the storey between matches, add images of the match 
info

And any text you wish,

I find this works well

Carrie


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leo MacDonald
Sent: 03 December 2017 03:08
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test




Hi Kevin,



I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program, I was 
quite disappointed to learn that what I had expected to receive will not 
happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired about my DNA results.




There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the y-DNA 
test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information. MyHeritage offers 
the autosomal DNA test

The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy, designed 
to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA matches with 
MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.



Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first 44 
'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes determining your 
gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses the DNA inherited from 
both your mother and father, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and 
so on - to provide a breakdown of your ethnic percentages and connect you with 
relatives descended from any of your ancestral lines within approximately the 
last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results are not 
limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.

Leo


From: LegacyUserGroup 
<legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Kevin Ferguson 
<kevinf2...@hotmail.com<mailto:kevinf2...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test


Hi there,



I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know how to 
input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in the "Individual 
Information" screen but didn't see an entry for MyHeritage DNA service. I find 
this odd as the email I got from Legacy seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage 
DNA kits.



Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?



Thank you for any pointers.



Best regards



Kevin



www.abbydalesystems.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7Cmacdonaldleo%40hotmail.com%7C9ca663b118374a49911108d539d627cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636478514305915713=HwFgjMKcwheWMSvzpw3n8IS65hzuSnTeG%2BbKgxLBUrc%3D=0>



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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-02 Thread Cathy Pinner

Leo,
It seems you need to learn more about DNA and DNA tests.

Here's why you can't just enter your DNA results for an autosomal test 
into Legacy - it's several MB even when zipped.

You can enter an Event to track who has taken a DNA test.
You can also use Events, Tags and Hashtags to track the research you do 
on your DNA matches.

There are numerous webinars on DNA.
Here is the link to an article Michele Simmons Lewis wrote on using 
Legacy to track your DNA match research.

<http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/how-i-use-hashtags-to-track-my-dna-matches.html>
DNA research is complicated. Autosomal tests are proving very useful.

Cathy

Leo MacDonald wrote:



Hi Kevin,


I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program,
I was quite disappointed to learn that what I had expected to receive
will not happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired
about my DNA results.



There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the
y-DNA test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information.
MyHeritage offers the /*autosomal*/ DNA test
The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy,
designed to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA
matches with MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.

Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first
44 'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes
determining your gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses
the DNA inherited from both your mother and father, four grandparents,
eight great-grandparents, and so on - to provide a breakdown of your
ethnic percentages and connect you with relatives descended from any
of your ancestral lines within approximately the last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results
are not limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.


Leo



*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
behalf of Kevin Ferguson <kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
*Sent:* December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know
how to input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in
the "Individual Information" screen but didn't see an entry for
MyHeritage DNA service. I find this odd as the email I got from Legacy
seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage DNA kits.


Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


www.abbydalesystems.com
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7Cmacdonaldleo%40hotmail.com%7C9ca663b118374a49911108d539d627cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636478514305915713=HwFgjMKcwheWMSvzpw3n8IS65hzuSnTeG%2BbKgxLBUrc%3D=0>


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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-02 Thread Leo MacDonald

Hi Kevin,


I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program, I was 
quite disappointed to learn that what I had expected to receive will not 
happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired about my DNA results.



There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the y-DNA 
test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information. MyHeritage offers 
the autosomal DNA test

The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy, designed 
to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA matches with 
MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.



Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first 44 
'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes determining your 
gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses the DNA inherited from 
both your mother and father, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and 
so on - to provide a breakdown of your ethnic percentages and connect you with 
relatives descended from any of your ancestral lines within approximately the 
last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results are not 
limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.

Leo



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Kevin Ferguson <kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
Sent: December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test


Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know how to 
input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in the "Individual 
Information" screen but didn't see an entry for MyHeritage DNA service. I find 
this odd as the email I got from Legacy seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage 
DNA kits.


Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


www.abbydalesystems.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7Cmacdonaldleo%40hotmail.com%7C9ca663b118374a49911108d539d627cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636478514305915713=HwFgjMKcwheWMSvzpw3n8IS65hzuSnTeG%2BbKgxLBUrc%3D=0>


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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-02 Thread Leo MacDonald
Hi Kevin,


I was expecting to be able to add my DNA results to my Legacy program, I was 
quite disappointed to learn that what I had expected to receive will not 
happen, this is the reply that I received when I inquired about my DNA results.



There are three major types of genealogical DNA tests available: the y-DNA 
test, the mtDNA test and the
autosomal DNA test. Each test produces different information. MyHeritage offers 
the autosomal DNA test

The MyHeritage DNA kit is an autosomal DNA test for genetic genealogy, designed 
to discover and identify relatives and ancestors, through DNA matches with 
MyHeritage's genealogical matching database.



Humans have 46 chromosomes. The MyHeritage DNA test looks at the first 44 
'autosomal' chromosomes, that aren't the X or Y chromosomes determining your 
gender, identifying linked DNA segments. It analyses the DNA inherited from 
both your mother and father, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and 
so on - to provide a breakdown of your ethnic percentages and connect you with 
relatives descended from any of your ancestral lines within approximately the 
last 6 generations.
Both men and women can take the MyHeritage DNA test and the results are not 
limited to just the direct maternal or paternal lines.

Leo


From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Kevin Ferguson <kevinf2...@hotmail.com>
Sent: December 2, 2017 6:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test


Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know how to 
input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in the "Individual 
Information" screen but didn't see an entry for MyHeritage DNA service. I find 
this odd as the email I got from Legacy seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage 
DNA kits.


Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


www.abbydalesystems.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abbydalesystems.com=02%7C01%7Cmacdonaldleo%40hotmail.com%7C9ca663b118374a49911108d539d627cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636478514305915713=HwFgjMKcwheWMSvzpw3n8IS65hzuSnTeG%2BbKgxLBUrc%3D=0>


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[LegacyUG] MyHeritage DNA test

2017-12-02 Thread Kevin Ferguson
Hi there,


I ordered a MyHeritage DNA kits for my wife and I and I wanted to know how to 
input the results into Legacy. I clicked on the DNA symbol in the "Individual 
Information" screen but didn't see an entry for MyHeritage DNA service. I find 
this odd as the email I got from Legacy seemed to be endorsing the MyHeritage 
DNA kits.


Has anyone managed to add their results to Legacy and if so, how?


Thank you for any pointers.


Best regards


Kevin


www.abbydalesystems.com


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