a derivative database if it is published. If all you're doing
with it is sending it to a printer, who is working for you, and who will
not make the file available to anyone else, then that's not a publicly
used database, so the share-alike requirement doesn't apply.
Jonathan.
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+1 I know of a few sites who have not responded to my email. what is
the next step?
Jonathan
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On 30/04/2014 00:34, Simon Poole wrote:
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of
attribution, or rather lack of such. I don't think there is very much
I couldn't agree more.
Jonathan
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On 28/04/2014 19:42, Steve Coast wrote:
http://stevecoast.com/2014/04/28/attribution-is-it-time-to-name-and-shame/
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OpenStreetMap http://osm.org/ is the global, open and free map
dataset that anyone can use. It is created by a huge
into a legal black hole. Google would
love that!
We MUST be whiter than white. The Open in OpenStreetMap is a
responsibility as well as a right and to protect that right we must act
responsibly.
Jonathan
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On 05/04/2014 16:50, Paulo Carvalho wrote:
Dear fellow mappers
Hi,
How does one challenge OSM use that breaks the license?
Go here:
http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/reserves/trench-wood-nature-reserve
Scroll down and you'll see a Google Map/Image, if you change the layer
to OSM the Google imprint and terms and conditions link remains :-(
Jonathan
be in the corner?
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On 26/11/13 21:25, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
Jonathan Harley jon@... writes:
On 23/11/13 10:45, Simone Cortesi wrote:
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Paul Norman penorman@... wrote:
The mentions of the OpenStreetMap Foundation in the document are
confusing, as to my knowledge no one from
contributions remains with that contributor. This is why
the requested attribution is © OpenStreetMap contributors and not © OSMF.
You probably knew this, and this is just nit-picking, but this is the
legal-talk list so we ought to be accurate.
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. The derived data is the only thing you must distribute freely
(if asked to), and you can retain all rights on your other data, images
and published maps.
HTH - Jonathan
Dear All,
This might have been discussed several times, hence sorry for raising
this question again, but I really
Can someone advise me on whether the UK Open Government License allows
for us to use it as a source in OSM?
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/
Thanks
Jonathan
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On 02/10/13 18:59, Rob Myers wrote:
On 01/10/13 03:48 AM, Jonathan Harley wrote:
On 01/10/13 06:01, Stephan Knauss wrote:
On 01.10.2013 06:28, Pekka Sarkola wrote:
Questions: Is CC-BY-4.0 compatible with OSM current license (ODbl)? If
data is released under CC-BY-4.0: can we import it to OSM
there would probably be no clash with our principles in the
case of CC-BY so long as the copyright owner was happy with our system
for attribution.
J.
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being taken by users, perhaps?)
A bunch of people expressed agreement with this at the time, but nobody
has updated the wiki. Should I JFDI? Would anyone object?
Jonathan.
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similar to LGPL. share-alike definetly applies to the data (or we
should have the discussion if the result is collective or derivative DB)
michal
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On 04/03/13 11:53, Pieren wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:
Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse
engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried
about it because so much accuracy
with OSM's data
is exactly the sort of data the share-alike clause is intended to capture.
thanks
michal
HTH!
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to other users of OSM, then why would you not share it with us?
HTH - Jonathan
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Database*. If you adapt them to work together (for example, by taking
footpaths from the OSM data, roads from the third-party data, and
connecting them for routing), this is a Derivative Database.
J.
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Jonathan.
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if there are any cases you're interested in that aren't covered there,
could you let us know? Then we'll be able to improve it.
Thanks, Jonathan
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does.
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there now.
Jonathan.
On 05/11/12 19:46, Igor Brejc wrote:
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net
mailto:j...@spiffymap.net wrote:
Michael's reply to you about the trivial transformation
guideline of 30 October agrees with this - in his terms
and product descriptions in place names, for example?
Jonathan.
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about doing so, it probably doesn't matter what the license says.
J.
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On 30/10/12 13:47, Michael Collinson wrote:
On 30/10/2012 13:07, Jonathan Harley wrote:
[snip]
One thing that's confusing me, is that
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright does not say what license
applies to the contents. ODbL specifically says that it only applies
to the database
(After a hiatus - I've been discussing this off-list with Anthony and
others.)
On 22/10/12 23:13, Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/10/22 Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net:
Anyway, the ODbL is explicit that an image
On 22/10/12 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/10/22 Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net:
You have an obligation to make your derivative database available, if you
made one.
or describe the details and release the code, how you did it, in this
case you don't have to release the data
of a database as
some OSM data doesn't automatically extend your ODbL responsibilities to
that data. If there are no interdependencies, there's no problem.
Jonathan.
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for me to provide something
like live-views of the data. But it would be nice to hear some
comments if I'm right, about the way to handle the data!?
Hope this helps. (I have some PHP programming that I'm avoiding, so it
was a welcome diversion to write this commentary.)
Jonathan.
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as Frederik says.
I suspect that we'll see the highest rates of remapping work in the few
weeks immediately before and after the deadline. For that, we need the
deadline.
Jonathan.
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contributors to OSM?
Either would be better than leaving it to the board; I'd be happy with
it being the OSMF membership.
Jonathan.
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that.
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be
creating a collective database, which is explicitly not a derivative
database.
Jonathan.
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own data is shared back, and
I think it achieves this.
Jonathan.
(IANAL but I have consulted one about ODbL.)
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On 30/06/11 11:55, David Groom wrote:
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Really I'm at a loss to see the point of the share-alike clause (4.4).
I can't think of a use-case for OSM where processing the database
doesn't reduce the amount of information
on request? Who benefits?
Jonathan.
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On 02/02/11 18:58, Rob Myers wrote:
On 02/02/2011 06:47 PM, Jonathan Harley wrote:
I think we may have differing interpretations of the intent of the
license. Mine is that the license is supposed to allow people to use the
map in a variety of ways, online and in print, so long as any new data
On 03/02/11 04:21, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Harleyj...@spiffymap.net wrote:
On 02/02/11 18:00, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan Harleyj...@spiffymap.net
wrote:
On 02/02/11 17:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Jonathan Harley wrote
On 03/02/11 10:18, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Making it impossible to make works where not all of the elements
are free does nothing to protect the freedom of individuals to use
OSM.
That's as may be, but to restate the point made by Frederik, you can't
simply wish away
On 02/02/11 17:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Jonathan Harley wrote:
Clearly no rendering of any map is going to be unmodified in the
sense of having identical sequences of 0s and 1s to the database,
in which case there could be no such thing as a collective work
based on a database, ever
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