Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:16:47 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: The numbers: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/treemap.png - each square represents one user, weighted by size of contribution. Green=accepted, Red=Declined or has not responded. This displays an 800x600 grey image with black

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 November 2011 08:07, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:16:47 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: The numbers: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/treemap.png - each square represents one user, weighted by size of contribution. Green=accepted, Red=Declined or has not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Andreas Labres [mailto:l...@lab.at] Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build Hello, there is something wrong with the license status P2 shows... A node without tags holds only one information: its location (lat+lon). So for instance:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Simon Poole wrote: That said, I believe P2 now has a tool that will completly replace a node with a new one at the same coordinates which is a bit of a fix for your specific issue. Just for clarification - what it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Just as a warning: replacing non-compliant nodes does not mean just placing another node adjacent to it. That's copying (or tracing). This O-trick suggestion invites our members to fraude. Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous owner, just as copying from google would violate

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous owner, just as copying from google would violate their terms of service. As they have been for at least three years now, Gert, your opinions about Potlatch are 100% venting and 0% actual knowledge

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
It looks like we are going to need tools to look for checking relicensed nodes here. Do we have have CPU for that? I need hosting. thanks, mike On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Gert Gremmen wrote: Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Andreas Labres
On 16.11.11 12:28, Simon Poole wrote: Currently there is no agreement on what exactly the rules/policy/algorithm will be to determine which objects or tags will survive the transition Sorry, but that's the core of the problem: this /has/ to be set first. ASAP. First we need the rules, then we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Just shut up

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Thank you Chris for your constructive comment to my stupid contribution to this list. I must apologize to you and the list because I should have realized more early that I am too much of a fool to be allowed to contribute. I am deeply sorry. Gert Gremmen . Van: Chris Hill

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
You are right Richard. This O-trick actually is just a shortcut for delete and (re)place. Just the thread in which it is presented is a bit suspicious. The reason why anyone would want to remove a node and replace one at the same (or approximate) location escapes my logic. It disturbs history,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Simon Poole
We (Switzerland and some parts of Germany) have for example started more or less systematic remapping of anonymous contributions. There is no real hope that a significant amount of this data will be re-licensed by the original mappers, and since these objects pre-date the introduction of