Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] New rules for OSMI license change view

2011-12-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
(taking this to legal-talk) Russ, On 12/27/11 05:08, Russ Nelson wrote: But this way is still marked as created by a nodecision user: http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=3753605 Well, maybe it was created, but the sins of the father do not pass onto the son. No part of what the nodecision

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/27/11 14:53, andrzej zaborowski wrote: * treat any tags contributed by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless if these tags are not present any more in the current version Did you manage to address your example of a user fixing a typo in the tag name (individually or for a large number

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 24 December 2011 19:32, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I have prepared changes to the OSMI map that allow me to * treat any tags contributed by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless if  these tags are not present any more in the current version Are you sure that this is a good idea?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Robert, when I wrote that I * treat any tags contributed by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless if these tags are not present any more in the current version I did indeed mean that the edit is harmless if the *key* is not present any more. This will still result in some harmless edits

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Yes. I have no strong feelings either way; your argument is correct. However the question must be asked in how far you can claim copyright for facts that others have to extract from your prose. In my personal opinion, if

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/27/2011 09:08 PM, Richard Weait wrote: So if mapper adds nmae=Fred's Bistro, then decliner corrects to name=Fred's Bistro, do your current rules consider that node tainted? Yes, if a name tag is still present in the current version of the object then it is assumed to be dervied

[OSM-legal-talk] There is no copyright on way tags like street names

2011-12-27 Thread FK270673
Tomorrow, I am planning to walk along streets which have been marked in red on the OSM Inspector. Mainly for exercise, not only for legal reasons. These streets exist for about 100 years and everybody who walks there needs to add the same tags: highway=residential name=Parkallee maxspeed=30

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] There is no copyright on way tags like street names

2011-12-27 Thread Jo
Simply add odbl=clean to the way, after verifying it and you'll be fine. A few days later, or maybe even the next day it won't show up as problematic anymore. OSM wants to be extra careful, regarding copyright laws, and we always have been. So we'll also have to be when we want to change the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

2011-12-27 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 27 December 2011 15:31, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 12/27/11 14:53, andrzej zaborowski wrote: * treat any tags contributed by a non-agreeing mapper as harmless if  these tags are not present any more in the current version Did you manage to address your example of a user

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] There is no copyright on way tags like street names

2011-12-27 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 28 December 2011 01:49, fk270...@fantasymail.de wrote: Tomorrow, I am planning to walk along streets which have been marked in red on the OSM Inspector. Mainly for exercise, not only for legal reasons. These streets exist for about 100 years and everybody who walks there needs to add