Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Simon Poole
We (Switzerland and some parts of Germany) have for example started more or less systematic remapping of anonymous contributions. There is no real hope that a significant amount of this data will be re-licensed by the original mappers, and since these objects pre-date the introduction of hist

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.11.2011 01:35, schrieb Andreas Labres: On 16.11.11 12:28, Simon Poole wrote: Currently there is no agreement on what exactly the rules/policy/algorithm will be to determine which objects or tags will survive the transition Sorry, but that's the core of the problem: this /has/ to be set

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
You are right Richard. This O-trick actually is just a shortcut for delete and (re)place. Just the thread in which it is presented is a bit suspicious. The reason why anyone would want to remove a node and replace one at the same (or approximate) location "escapes" my logic. It disturbs history

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Just shut up

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Thank you Chris for your "constructive comment" to my "stupid" contribution to this list. I must apologize to you and the list because I should have realized more early that I am too much of a fool to be allowed to contribute. I am deeply sorry. Gert Gremmen . Van: Chris Hill [

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Andreas Labres
On 16.11.11 12:28, Simon Poole wrote: > > Currently there is no agreement on what exactly the rules/policy/algorithm > will be to determine which objects or tags will survive the transition Sorry, but that's the core of the problem: this /has/ to be set first. ASAP. First we need the rules, then w

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
It looks like we are going to need tools to look for checking "relicensed" nodes here. Do we have have CPU for that? I need hosting. thanks, mike On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Gert Gremmen wrote: >> Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous >> owner,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: > Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous > owner, just as copying from google would violate their > terms of service. As they have been for at least three years now, Gert, your opinions about Potlatch are 100% venting and 0% actual knowledge (http://lists.op

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Just as a warning: replacing non-compliant nodes does not mean just placing another node adjacent to it. That's copying (or tracing). This O-trick suggestion invites our members to fraude. Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the previous owner, just as copying from google would violate t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Simon Poole wrote: >> That said, I believe P2 now has a tool that will completly replace >> a node with a new one at the same coordinates which is a bit of >> a fix for your specific issue. > > Just for clarification - what it actually do

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Labres [mailto:l...@lab.at] > Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build > > Hello, > > there is something wrong with the license status P2 shows... > > A node without tags holds only one information: its location (lat+lon). > So for > instan

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Simon Poole wrote: > That said, I believe P2 now has a tool that will completly replace > a node with a new one at the same coordinates which is a bit of > a fix for your specific issue. Just for clarification - what it actually does is remove the node (in a way) and create a new one at your _mo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 November 2011 08:07, Maarten Deen wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:16:47 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: > >> The numbers: >> >> http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/treemap.png - each square >> represents one user, weighted by size of contribution. Green=accepted, >> Red=Declined or has not res

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:16:47 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: The numbers: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/treemap.png - each square represents one user, weighted by size of contribution. Green=accepted, Red=Declined or has not responded. This displays an 800x600 grey image with black bord