Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Igor Brejc
I'm not an expert, but I think it largely depends on your definition of the routing database. If you store the elevation data in the original grid-based form and you request elevation data on-demand for lat/lon coords without long-term storing of lat/lon + elevation pairs, then I don't really see

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Peter K
Hi Igor, exactly in those areas I have a problem of understanding the OSM license :) If you store the elevation data in the original grid-based form No, as explained, I do intent to calculate edge weights based on OSM and elevation data. Is this a trivial change? And then I store this mixed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL

2013-07-08 Thread Peter K
Hi there, I would like to have clarification on this subject as well (but be aware that I'm just in the process of understanding the OSM license - see the other thread). What I do not understand with the OSM license is the following (constructed) example: * I have a separate geo coder

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Igor Brejc
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Peter K peat...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Igor, exactly in those areas I have a problem of understanding the OSM license :) If you store the elevation data in the original grid-based form No, as explained, I do intent to calculate edge weights based on OSM and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Peter K
Thanks Igor! I still have a problem when the substantial part of the license apply. Also in the wiki there is an explanation about trivial transformation. Are there some examples when both of them applies? The wiki raises more questions then it solves as it e.g. does not say if the example is a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Igor Brejc
To answer all your questions in one go: there has been a lot of discussion (especially on this mailing list) about the problems/issues you raised. And there have been some efforts to better clarify these things. I suggest reading the mailing list archive. My own opinion is that the legal issues

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
It’s very important to remember that when the law and license talks about a database, they are not using the same definition as in IT or CS. I imagine you can have a database that doesn’t involve computers at all. A database could be flat files, XML, binary files, or I’m sure other forms.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Peter K
Thanks and I'll have a closer look in the archive! Peter. To answer all your questions in one go: there has been a lot of discussion (especially on this mailing list) about the problems/issues you raised. And there have been some efforts to better clarify these things. I suggest reading the

[OSM-legal-talk] Wikivoyage and licensing

2013-07-08 Thread torty3
Hi all, Wikivoyage is a travel-based wiki, and was recently incarnated as a Wikimedia project. In its previous history, there weren't any solid attempts at introducing and integrating OpenStreetMaps, but much progress has been made at http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyag …