Re: [OSM-legal-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:48 PM 3/18/2008, 80n wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 18 March 2008 10:54 AM To: mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.orglegal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk]

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The use of OSM images in a promotional video

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Elliot, For me, yes and yes but. I mapped most of central Sydney myself originally and am delighted. Your use clearly indicates two separate layers which the community says is OK, you don't need to share alike the 3D model ... though perhaps you can consider it? As for the credits,

[OSM-legal-talk] (Not) Removing data

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Collinson
I have been away from the grand fray for several weeks due to personal matters and have been catching up with threads on this list. One question, I think from Liz, was who decided to remove data. That got me thinking as there was never any explicit decision point. Therefore I have a question

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributor terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Collinson
At 01:14 13/08/2010, Liz wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: At 02:58 PM 12/08/2010, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal review from OSMF's lawyers... Yes. Our initial desire was to have something very short, more

[OSM-legal-talk] Someone ought to do something ... dealing with violations of OSM's geodata license

2011-03-20 Thread Michael Collinson
This is a general question for discussion from the License Working Group. I may also ask on the main list as the constituency is different. There are now 1 to 2 reports every month of folks violating OSM's license by using OSM's data or maps without any or without adequate CC-BY-SA

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT, time period for reply to a new license change (active contributor)

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/03/2011 00:52, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Sorry that I come quite late with this, it might be too late, and it was bothering me occasionally already for some months: if we really decided in the future to change the license, isn't 3 weeks a little short for such an important issue? I am

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A legal question

2011-04-16 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Eldad, This link http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License may also help with general information. We are evolving it to help folks such as yourself, so if there is anything unclear or confusing, please do no hesitate to email me. Mike On 16/04/2011 15:55, Simon Biber wrote: Hi Eldad,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is mail address le...@osmfoundation.org valid?

2011-06-04 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Jukka, Yes, it is still in use and we read everything and we we do try to respond. Have we missed something? Mike License Working Group On 04/06/2011 06:57, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Hi, The page http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Licensing_Working_Group suggests that the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is mail address legal@... valid?

2011-06-05 Thread Michael Collinson
For me as a personal contributor, it looks great as is. It goes out with every extraction(?). You are making attribution credit reasonable to the medium (CC-BY-SA and CC-BY). You are crediting OpenStreetMap and properly identifying the CC-BY-SA license. You also have a link to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread Michael Collinson
I am also very hesitant to have a specific date now and basically support Kai's concept. Mostly the date thing is caution, I would like to move to Phase 4 as soon as possible but think we can then take our time getting as much ODbL coverage as possible. It is also disparate situations. At one

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 Much appreciated, both the statement itself and Ben's efforts to get it. Mike On 15/06/2011 03:36, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Lastben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adopt a PD-Mapper ....... was Re: Refusing CT but declaring contributions as PD

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Simon, Basically no. Our stance is that the only copy of their data that is accessible is what they contributed only under CC-BY-SA in a database which is published CC-BY-SA. Whilst that stance may be arguable, the number of contributors is small, (3?), there is still a paradox between

[OSM-legal-talk] Queensland imports into OSM

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Chris, Thank you for info, I can follow it up now. Thanks also for the nice feedback! Mike LWG ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-legal-talk] Licensing the license

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Collinson
We have had a request for another big open organisation to re-use our contributor terms [1] and summary [2] . Both the terms and the summary are by default already published under CC-BY-SA 2.0. However, my initial thought it that it is more practical to (also) offer them under a license that

[OSM-legal-talk] Ulf Möller remembered

2012-01-17 Thread Michael Collinson
, and I am looking only at a small part of Ulf's life, but to me these two things are part of his lasting legacy. To a decent and intelligent guy. Mike Michael Collinson http://www.ndr.de/regional/schleswig-holstein/trittau115.html http://www.ln-online.de/lokales/stormarn/3339992/die-polizei

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Collinson
On 13/02/2012 12:53, Simon Poole wrote: Am 13.02.2012 12:33, schrieb Frederik Ramm: This can be read - as Simon seems to do it - to mean the CTs guarantee that required attribution will survive any future licence changes, but I think he's on thin ice there; in my reading, the CTs promise

[OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-06 Thread Michael Collinson
I am trying to find a solution that will allow the UMP project in Poland to continue using OSM data and therefore reciprocally allow OSM to keep a large amount of data that went into making the initial road map of Poland and which is still there. The UMP project collects road routes within

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-dk] åben offentlig licens og OSM, part 2

2012-04-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/04/2012 13:23, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: [preamble cut] Hi, I wonder about these two requirements in the license[1], and whether or not they could present a problem: - - sikrer, at udnyttelsen af materialet sker på en

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Confirmirmation on Natural England OGL data required

2012-04-30 Thread Michael Collinson
On 30/04/2012 17:38, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Can someone please confirm that I am able to make use of the Natural England data released under the Open Government Licence. I was under the impression that this licence is compatible with OSMs CTs and ODBL licence, however the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] BC Open Government License

2012-05-04 Thread Michael Collinson
Thanks Paul, this is good news. These kinds of license are appearing in a number of countries and are a great way of providing open geodata by governmental organisations. One small correction, but a positive one: The license is based on the pure UK Open Government License [1] rather than

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: NLSF OSM license check / comments needed

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Pekka, Thanks for taking this on. I have put some comments in-line. The usual caveat, IANAL! Dear Friends, This legal-lists seem to be quite quiet. So, maybe you all have plenty of time to discuss about National Land Survey of Finland (NLSF) license vs. OSM licenses. As you may know,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Mistake in French translation of the CT

2012-09-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/09/2012 16:32, Pieren wrote: Hi legal-list, I would like to point out an error in your French translation of the CT: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms/FR compared to its original (http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms). Section 3. says

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/09/2012 07:32, Mike Dupont wrote: Hi there, I have a question about imports and the ODBl, I see that some sources have decided to dual license the data http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue But how can some third parties data be compatible when the CT says it can change

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/09/2012 09:13, Stephan Knauss wrote: On 20.09.2012 07:32, Mike Dupont wrote: How can a contributor import any data and keep the data open to license change? How can you keep any imports at all from people who have not agreed to the CT directly? I agree with you in this point. If we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2012-09-21 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Bekim, If nobody else gives you feedback I will do so next week. I am away at the moment. Regards, Michael Collinson On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, Hopefully someone will send some feedback. Best, Bekim On Thu, Sep 20

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Igor, I wonder if this resource helps with your question? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Trivial_Transformations_-_Guideline (a work in progress) Mike On 22/10/2012 18:45, Igor Brejc wrote: Hi, Thanks for your clarifications, everybody. I was under the (looks

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Collinson
source, then please say so. But please treat all the players the same: Apple, esri, Google and one-man-band companies. Best regards, Igor On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Hi Igor, I wonder if this resource helps with your

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Collinson
On 30/10/2012 13:07, Jonathan Harley wrote: (After a hiatus - I've been discussing this off-list with Anthony and others.) [snip] One thing that's confusing me, is that http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright does not say what license applies to the contents. ODbL specifically says that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Collinson
On 30/10/2012 13:07, Jonathan Harley wrote: (After a hiatus - I've been discussing this off-list with Anthony and others.) On 22/10/12 23:13, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/22 Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net:

[OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group 2013

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Collinson
weeks. In the UK, example projects might be freeing up postcodes or public right of way route definitions. Do you have important issues in your country? Are you an organisation that is finding OSM data difficult to use for legal reasons? Mike Michael Collinson Chair, License Working Group

[OSM-legal-talk] Information for officials and diplomats of countries and entities with disputed territories

2013-07-09 Thread Michael Collinson
Simon, Oliver, Dermot and I have give a finally look over the document and are happy to now send it to the board as our formal proposal. However, as Chair I would really prefer a formal quorate, 4, for such things and ask you to indicate yes or no by email before I send it.

[OSM-legal-talk] About Boxes ... attributing OpenStreetMap

2013-10-01 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi all, There has been community discussion about refining the Legal FAQ on the issue of what is reasonable attribution for certain specific media cases. I have created a Community Guideline wiki page [1]. This is not about being legal but what you personally think is reasonable for what you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK Open Gov License

2013-10-11 Thread Michael Collinson
2003. Please note that these are layman's opinions. I am not a lawyer and neither I nor the LWG can offer any formal legal opinion. Mike Michael Collinson [1] http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/1/ ___ legal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Wiki Mapia Mass Upload

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Collinson
Thanks. I have now written to their contact email address asking them to comply with our license or remove the data. I will report back on what transpires. Mike Michael Collinson License Working Group On 15/09/2013 16:54, Walter Nordmann wrote: got some: New from 18. August 2013: http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform virtual survey

2014-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
I think the License Working Group would echo exactly what Jonathan says. While it does not solve the problem of being able to map where there are no mappers, may I also seize the opportunity to promote John McKerrell's excellent OpenStreetView? It is a great under-exploited tool!

[OSM-legal-talk] Community Guideline - Regional Cuts

2014-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
of roads, railways etc across boundaries without triggering share-alike? There seems to be no public value(?). See wiki page for more discussion. Mike Michael Collinson License Working Group ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
Luis, Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments, I hope you don't mind that I've referenced the mail link on the page for resource reading! On 30/04/2014 00:10, Luis Villa wrote: I think it is pretty clear that this rule is only for OSM/ODBL, but it wouldn't hurt to make that more

[OSM-legal-talk] Community Guidelines (was Re: Attribution)

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/04/2014 23:27, Mikel wrote: Further I note there was 0 (zero) response to the proposed updated community guidelines that go a long way in clarifying a number of the grey areas, indicating that the whole upset is not about fixing real issues. Simon, first i've heard about this. Can you

[OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
I've renamed the subject because it has gone way off topic, but I wanted to come back on Tobias' comment because it struck a chord and I would like to share a personal research topic. I am curious to evolve the idea further to see if there is any positive value. Open data is a different

[OSM-legal-talk] Creative Commons license question

2014-05-04 Thread Michael Collinson
This is a pure CC question. An organisation is making a short film/video which will be released CC-BY. They want to show (fleetingly) OSM map tiles ... which are CC-BY-SA- 2.0. Can they do that? [And if anyone in the UK wants to help them by creating tiles from scratch under a CC-BY

[OSM-legal-talk] Community Guidelines - Horizontal Cuts better text

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Collinson
Thanks to all have responded specifically or generally on our community guidelines draft. I have been able to make a number of small changes which tighten and clarify without changing intent. I have made one large edit by replacing my original horizontal cuts text with some that I believe is

[OSM-legal-talk] Google awarded patent on automatic correction of road geometry from imagery

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Collinson
This comes to me via Simon Poole, so the OSMF board is aware. http://apb.directionsmag.com/entry/google-patent-updating-map-data-using-satellite-imagery/402398?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=tumblr

[OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news

2014-11-17 Thread Michael Collinson
The License Working Group is undermanned and has only met twice this year, most recently on 28th October. [1] This is due in great part to my lack of time, enthusiasm and attention in calling meetings. I am therefore stepping down as below and welcome volunteers to join as full members and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news

2014-11-19 Thread Michael Collinson
, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I would also like to highlight that we also now welcome associate members who can help us occassionally or want to work on a specific topic that fires you up. This involves