Hi,
I have been reading more about how to deal with the licenses of
Albania and Kosovo data we have been acquiring.
I must admit, I am still skeptical about this new license, but after
re-reading it a few times, it might work.
The basic idea is that it is codifying what is implicit in copyright
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it
under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons.
http
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote:
If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting
a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the
copyright should be compatible with ODbL 1.0. You do not need to
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote:
In any case, if I host my data elsewhere, and then “import” it into
OpenStreetMap, do I get around this, or am I just being too hopeful?
yes, setup a company in the bahamas that holds all intellectual rights
of yours, that
Hi, there, the site
http://www.yakaz.com has an osm map and displays
Partial Map data CC-BY-SA OpenStreetMap contributors on the webpage,
but not on the map.
Luca has posted a comment about this and sent this to my attention :
http://blog.yakaz.com/2010/11/welcome-on-the-new-yakaz.html#comments
Hi,
I just saw this , very interesting.
http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/httpmobilespyde-is-using-unattributed.html
Mobile Spy and Akamai are using unattributed osm tiles in flash ads.
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well the flash image moves around and shows more data. but ok. maybe they
are not tiles, but one tile. anyway..
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Mike Dupont wrote:
I just saw this , very interesting.
http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Andreas Perstinger
andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
sorry for my probably stupid question, but I'm rather new to OSM and still
learning :-).
As I understand it, we build a database which we fill with coordinates and
their tags. Because of the license
I have highlighted and commented on points from the bing Tou for discussion
http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/interesting-points-from-bing-bind.html
thanks,
mike
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At the time of my writing Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM CET is when I
was working on that, there was no mention of this other license, at
least I did not see it.
Sorry for misleading,
mike
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10
BY-SA 2.0 compatible, or something to the same
effect.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
HI Andrew,
I am also worried about this, but dont want to be seen as a troll.
mike
Neither do I. I just don't want a CC BY-SA database cluttered
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it OK to use bing imagery when you have accepted the contributors term,
How are they connected? please explain.
thanks,
mike
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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote:
Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 11:49, Mike Dupont a écrit :
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com
wrote:
Is it OK to use bing imagery when you have accepted the contributors
term
Hi,
I would suggest that the devil is in the details, please be specific.
my I suggest that you write a wikipeidia article about the agency or
wikitravel page about the timeplan/schedule and I will review it.
mike
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Andrei Klochko
transportspl...@gmail.com wrote:
or not!
Andrei
2010/12/8 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I found a reference to albatrans here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_of_the_Paris_RER
just add this information to wikipedia.
see also here :
http://wikitravel.org/en/Paris#Get_around
just add all the information you
would wake
up only when the amount of overall collected data would make the financial
compensations and penalties, huge, and I do not want that!
Andrei
2010/12/8 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
In usa facts are not copyrightable. The facts about the transport are
allowed to be put
the attention
of closed up companies, and as such, is a good thing. Thank you!
Andrei
2010/12/8 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I dont think I can asnwer this question, my i suggest to write the
wikitravel or wikipeida articles and then to send them to the
companies to comment
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
To clarify my criticism/confusion with CT:
1) I'm not against ODbL. It is nice idea and I wholeheartedly support it;
2) I'm not against general idea of CT, I understand why it is needed;
My confusion and
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use
cc-by-sa data in the future.
Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot
provide proper attribution.
I would be willing to
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote:
On 05.06.2011 02:09, Frederik Ramm wrote:
means for them. I know for a fact that among the current disagreeing
mappers there are some who intend to stay with OSM and who are just
holding out until the last minute;
no intention of getting into a debate about whether ODBL is the
best licence for OSM data here. However, I do feel the need to correct
one very important factual point regarding the Contributor Terms.
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:20 +0200, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote:
It is kind of ironic that people who use the accept the CT question to
vote on the transition to ODBL get told that this is not a vote if they
think ODBL is the correct licence for OSM but that they should only indicate
if
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:57 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
Person A also should do as much as they can to make sure any potential
Person C is aware of the intention. In the case of OSM, it helps that
it's
the largest open map data project - it's likely anyone thinking of
Tobias,
thank you for writing this. It seems you are speaking from the hearts of
many people.
thanks,
mike
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
I apologize in advance for distracting everyone's attention from mapping
and other pleasures with a long mail
Me too, I would like to fix some bugs, why am I locked out?
mike
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 08:03:16PM +0200, Nic Roets wrote:
Gert, if you are so sure of that, open a new account and use that
instead.
At the very least you will
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Simon Poole wrote:
That said, I believe P2 now has a tool that will completly replace
a node with a new one at the same coordinates which is a bit of
a fix for your specific issue.
Just for clarification - what it
It looks like we are going to need tools to look for checking
relicensed nodes here. Do we have have CPU for that? I need
hosting.
thanks,
mike
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Gert Gremmen wrote:
Using this O-trick violates the copyright of the
FYI, cc 4 is open for discussion.
mike
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From: Kat Walsh k...@wikimedia.org
Date: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Subject: [Foundation-l] Creative Commons wants your input on the 4.0
license process
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Simon Poole simon at poole.ch writes:
The upgrade clause in 4.b of CC-by-SA 2.0
a) only applies to a Derivative Work. While this is only a small hurdle
to surmount, it does mean that it doesn't apply to a one-to-one copy of
the
Hi, landsat is already available in a josm plugin
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landsat
i dont know if what you are planning to buy is better than that,
thanks,
mike
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be legal to trace from LandSat.com
Same here, the OSM is pressuring me to accept the CT which would
amount to prejury for imported CC-BY-SA data
again here is my statement, I am still getting spam mails from bots on
accepting the license.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/James%20Michael%20DuPont/diary/15777
mike
On Wed, Jan 18,
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 19/01/12 09:51, Mike Dupont wrote:
Same here, the OSM is pressuring me to accept the CT which would
amount to prejury
If you cannot accept the CTs please don't. Nobody wants you to make a
false representation.
Well
That is an excellent question Stefan d. k., very good. Also
considering that the previous stance was that wikipedia should not be
imported at all because it is mostly derived from non free sources.
Also I wonder why this mail is being sent to talk, about licensing,
should be on legal anyway?
mike
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/27/2012 6:48 PM, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Hi Mike and Graham,
We should not assume that contributors' acceptance of the new licence
means that they are particularly in favour of it - they may have just
accepted
I am going to explain my viewpoint on this.
My understanding of copyleft is the idea that people who own the
rights to their own work license it freely.
Other people who license that work via copyleft are then allowed to
create derived works, and adding in value create new works that are
again
moving the discussion to legal
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
Copying and pasting is not a copyright infringement. The Contributor
Terms don't require that the data inserted into the database be
compatible with ODbL -- only the current licensing
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
(If anyone wants to pursue this discussion I would very much ask them to
peruse the mailing list archives with the search term reverse engineering
and read up on past discussions so that we don't have to repeat
is this possible? that would be great for continuing with cc-by-sa.
mike
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:47 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote:
I was personally thinking of just publishing the full planet the same
way it is published today
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
all
the problems we had with the license change
Lets be clear here, I think the problems is not because of the license
change, but the contributor terms , ( the click through license and the
mass collection of all IP
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
CC-BY-SA is similar
in broad terms (you must license the mixed database to the user under
CC-BY-SA), but lacks the details more specific to datasets, like the
reasonable-format requirement.
Can you provide more information on
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:20 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
For me the CT has been a problem.
I principally refuse to sign a contract where I can be held legally
responsible
for data I contribute for free; where the other party engages itself to
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
If someone is unable to sign the CTs because they don't hold copyright over
their contributions then they'd be unable to legally contribute to OSM or
any open mapping project regardless of the CTs.
If someone is not working
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Apollinaris Schöll ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
They can claim what they want. Even if you sign such a contract it is not
valid. It's called employer and not slave driver. No court will enforce such
a contract.
Mr Schöll,
I have hear otherwise, first of all if you
this is a topic for legal.
the content is no longer cc-by-sa,
it is OdBL
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:
i want the Osmosa also in that text
content CCA from OSM
server hosted in osmosa.net
any idea?
F
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alex
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:06 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by convince people to add the odbl
clause to people providing data.
I mean I asked people to give us the data under cc-by-sa, and now i
would have to go back and ask for the odbl
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
that is different than to ask for the CT which is my eyes basically a
copyright assignment to the osmf, I cannot understand that or explain
And to add in one more point, I dont want to have to go back again
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote:
This is a good reason to have contributor terms.
the contributor terms introduce more problems, like the fact that it
prevents anyone from importing any derived works.
lets say i download the new cc-by-sa+odbl
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
() The CTs where written carefully to say, If you contribute Contents, You
are indicating that, as far as You know, You have the right to authorize
OSMF to use and distribute those Contents under our current licence
Bekim,
I have been working on understanding the new license even today.
it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl) + the right for osm to change
the licence at will in the future.
basically you need to grant the osm the rights to use the data,
Michael can give you more info about this,
thanks,
is the starting point?
I am ready to approve, sign, confirm anything required!
Best,
Bekim
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
Bekim,
I have been working on understanding the new license even today.
it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl
, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
On 20/09/2012 07:32, Mike Dupont wrote:
Hi there,
I have a question about imports and the ODBl,
I see that some sources have decided to dual license the data
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue
But how can some
Hi there,
I would like to ask you all to consider to sign my petition for apple to
disclose their usage of OSM :
http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-inc-uphold-the-terms-of-cc-by-sa-2-0-license
thanks,
mike
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Hi all,
We need only 6 more signatures for the apple petition :
http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-inc-uphold-the-terms-of-cc-by-sa-2-0-license
please sign and share! If you ask yourself what use it is, the point
is that we can try and put public pressure onto apple.
mike
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James Michael
Hello,
Would putting the data in osm be in violation of the kansas law K.S.A.
45-220(c)(2)?
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/45-230.html
K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A)
Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived
I will do so next week. I am away at the
moment.
Regards,
Michael Collinson
On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Mike,
Hopefully someone will send some feedback.
Best,
Bekim
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup
the wikipedia has a nice otrs system, I supposed you could use it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS
so let them sign something that allows the data to be used by wikipedia and
that should cover osm as well.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Eric Jiang e...@doublemap.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Well no, Mike, I don't think so. What rights a publisher grants to
Wikipedia has nothing to do with what rights a publisher grants to
OpenStreetMap. Wikipedia has no ownership interest in OpenStreetMap,
nor vice-versa.
-server.dewrote:
If the data is creative commons we can't use it. We can't neither fulfill
the attribution nor is it compatible with the contributor terms which
allows changing the license.
Stephan
On April 19, 2014 5:19:54 PM CEST, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr
On the copyright page I see credit for various places who donate data.
Would it be possible to give credit to the state of nj if they donate
data to satisfy them?
mike
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Free/Libre Open Source and Open Knowledge Association of
Reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96pnvkarte
and the talk page, I would assume that what you are interested in is
the rendering styles. The data seems to be from OSM. I am not sure
that you would have a legal standing to request them. Only if he used
AGPL licensed styles would you be
Sorry to bring this up again, but I accidentally accepted the contributor
terms on my h4ck3rm1k3 account
and I cannot do that because not all the data that I had there is cleared
for the new license. I stopped using that account a while back.
I would like to have the settings turned back.
I tried
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