Date sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:10:16 -0400
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight
Louis,
I do not think one-liners like this advance the discussion at
I just had a look at this site: http://www.redstar.ru/kursk5.html
This is the online version of Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star), the armed forces
newspaper published by the Russian Defence ministry. Today's issue (25/08)
also discusses Kursk. The line seems to be that there was an *accidental*
Reply to Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote on
the 24/8/2000 0:20:
More on the Kursk. It looks like that the Russian establishment is
seriously claiming that the sub was intentionally sunk by a NATO
ship. Slimy road they are treading on...
Comrade,
I question very
Who has ever claimed that ideological exposure from the sidelines of the class
struggle is enough? Of course the Bolsheviks did take an active and leading
part in the day to day class struggle, but they were not economists, and they
knew that consciousness was the key to a proletarian
Who has ever claimed that ideological exposure from the sidelines of the
class
struggle is enough? Of course the Bolsheviks did take an active and leading
part in the day to day class struggle, but they were not economists, and
they
knew that consciousness was the key to a proletarian
Louis Proyect:
What you call consciousness I regard as socialist ideology. In
point of fact, revolutions generally take place in advance of acceptance
of
socialist ideology by the great majority.
Louis,
I dont think that fact is contested at all.
The common misconception of
Marxists
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Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 6:19 PM
Subject: Int'l day of mobilization against Clinton's visit in Colombia
The 30th of August Bill Clinton, as one of the last acts during his
presidential mandate,
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The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU
Danish soldiers beat prioress of Sokolica Monastery in Mitrovica
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Note from Emperor's Clothes: NATO's 'explanation' was they thought the
prioress was an Egyptian woman because
Reply to Louis Proyect, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote on the 25/8/2000 16:19:
Although the Cuban revolution is widely regarded as being
vastly inferior to the Russian revolution in terms of the level of
consciousness, it is doubtful that there is much difference between the
two. Keep in
I dont want to speculate much about the 'ifs' in history, but I doubt there
would have been an October uprising without thr previous split of Bolsheviks
and Mensheviks. By the same token I think its the tragedy of the German
revolution that the forces around Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg
Owen Jones:
I think that the proposition that the Cuban and Russian Revolutions have
little differences is absurd. The Russian Revolution was led by the
revolutionary proletariat, whilst in the Cuban Revolution, the peasantry
were in the driving seat. That is hardly a subtle difference, and in
Owen wrote-
The bourgeois press here said that Russia had thereby humiliated
itself. But then the Russian bourgeoisie is not a nationalist
bourgeoisie, but one dependant on imperialism, and thereby its role in
Kosovo should not be taken as a "humiliation" - it did it voluntarily.
This is why any
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From: Blagovesta Doncheva
Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:10 PM
Subject: Elections, S24, Kostuniza Part III
Part III
And here is a story about the end results of neo-liberal
price-salary-pension-graveyard politics...
In Memoriam...
SEGA, July 1, 2000; p. 15
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From: Blagovesta Doncheva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:54 PM
Subject: Elections, S24, Kostuniza Part I
KostunizaPart123800
Part 1
Kostunica: the New US Bait for the Serb People
The international
En relaciĆ³n a Re: [L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Kursk sunk by British subma,
el 25 Aug 00, a las 14:44, Owen Jones dijo:
Reply to Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who
wrote on the 24/8/2000 0:20:
More on the Kursk. It looks like that the Russian establishment is
seriously claiming that
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