Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi John, Despite of using mind maps for my presentations (instead of the linear and monotonic slides) and having thought is this as the "presentation mode" for the Grafoscopio notebooks, Grafoscopio doesn't support mind mapping yet (I made a presentation for Grafoscopio using mind maps, so

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-05 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 02:16:15 -0800 (PST) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > 1. I am thinking that what we really want is your (Terry's) new VR4 > widget, or whatever you call it. > > Do I remember correctly that this pane would allow both rendered and > "raw" views of text.  If so,

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-05 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 4:16:15 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > reconciling the wikiview plugin with the new colorizer is turning into a >> headache. I'll say more about this in #388 >>

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-05 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 4:16:15 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: reconciling the wikiview plugin with the new colorizer is turning into a > headache. I'll say more about this in #388 > itself. > Done. The colorizer must hide

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-05 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 11:42:18 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: images in the body editor could save a lot of real estate during demos, for > instance. I'm pretty sure that we will enjoy having this feature. And why > turn our backs on a really cool feature? > I'm going for put this

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread john lunzer
Offray's Grafoscopio has some kind of mind map type view mode which he has used for presentations which displays images with texts. Initially just the headers are visible but he can expand the "node" and the body will show text /images. Anyway it's not the same as what you're doing here but it

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 11:17 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Imo, images in the body pane are an essential ingredient for > > emulating pyzo, org-mode or Jupyter cells. They are too important, > > and way too cool, to forego. > > Not sure about pyzo

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: ​> ​ For example, images are referenced indirectly *by the name attribute* [emphasis mine] of a QTextImageFormat object. ​A longshot? It may be possible to use the name attribute to avoid uA's altogether. That would be

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:47:47 AM UTC-6, Terry Brown wrote: Nonetheless, I don't think we should insert weird unicode chars into > peoples files, and I'm not sure it serves any purpose, seeing the char. > by itself carries no info. The file should only every contain the > markup (

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 08:42:08 -0800 (PST) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > Imo, images in the body pane are an essential ingredient for > emulating pyzo, org-mode or Jupyter cells. They are too important, > and way too cool, to forego. Not sure about pyzo and org-mode, but does

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 04:46:00 -0800 (PST) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 6:37:11 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream > wrote: > I should emphasize that Leo reads and writes picture characters > without problem, because *picture characters are normal unicode

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:32:16 AM UTC-6, Terry Brown wrote: personally I don't feel the need for images in a text editor, viewrendered > is fine for me (or at least will be, when viewrendered 4 is released ;-) > Imo, images in the body pane are an essential ingredient for emulating

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 01:21:26 -0800 (PST) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > The colorizer will replace the wikiview plugin. Issue #388 is moot, > and will be closed today. The wikiview plugin is deprecated, > effective immediately. In general I think this analysis is good, although

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 3:21:26 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: Hiding tags will use the same machinery as hiding parts of urls. But > full support for pictures will involve numerous complications. > *tl;dr:* No plan survives contact with the enemy. But the battle is not lost.

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 6:37:11 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > *New summary* > > Support for live UNLs is huge. > > On balance, the good news about far outweighs the bad. The > simplifications are global. No need for uA's or anything else. The > complications strictly limited to

Re: ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 3:21:26 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: *> Summary* > ...The colorizer will replace the wikiview plugin. Still true, but the colorizer must handle *all* of what wikiview does, including a variant of Leo's UNLs: file://#some-->headlines-->mynode and links

ENB: urls and pictures in the body pane

2017-02-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
This is an Engineering Notebook post discussing work to be done in the color branch. Feel free to ignore unless you are one of Leo's devs. *tl;dr:* Read the summary. This post affects three issues: #388: wikiview.py plugin problem with new colorizing code