Re: [RFC] Udev configuration changes

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:53:48PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: Matt, one thing I think everyone here has forgot, what about cross-lfs. How will the change affect us. If you have concerns, ideas, or comments, please post them. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your

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RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. Up to this point work on Cross-LFS has been done with the idea that, eventually, its features would be merged into the main LFS book. I would like at this time to

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. There are many reasons for wanting to do so: Agreed in priniciple, though I have a couple of nits to pick... Why waste the LFS community's time searching for a

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matthew Burgess wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. There are many reasons for wanting to do so: Agreed in priniciple Me too. It's nearly its own project now as it is. I'd rather see

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to be the natural course to follow. I would like to see some of the goals/guiding principles of Cross-LFS layed out, too though. For example, how closely does it follow LFS and decisions made there, like package versions, etc? Depending on the outcome of

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: That seems to be the natural course to follow. I would like to see some of the goals/guiding principles of Cross-LFS layed out, too though. For example, how closely does it follow LFS and decisions made there, like package

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 15 de Septiembre de 2005 19:06, Jim Gifford escribió: After some discussion with Gerard, he has requested I prepare a proposal to the LFS community concerning the Cross-LFS book. Up to this point work on Cross-LFS has been done with the idea that, eventually, its features would be

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:33:59PM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: If that will meant that Cross-LFS will be focused on pure cross-build techniques and scenarios, i.e. it assumes that host-triplet != target-triplet, thus no chroot way to build the final system, focusing the normal LFS book on

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, M.Canales.es wrote: If that will meant that Cross-LFS will be focused on pure cross-build techniques and scenarios, i.e. it assumes that host-triplet != target-triplet, thus no chroot way to build the final system, focusing the normal LFS book on host-triplet =

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 15 de Septiembre de 2005 22:56, Jim Gifford escribió: One of things I've been mulling over is maybe have cross-lfs just build the toolchains, but the rest of the stuff, currently the temp-system and final-system of Cross-LFS, could be the future LFS book that supports multiple

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Matt Darcy
Jim Gifford wrote: One of things I've been mulling over is maybe have cross-lfs just build the toolchains, but the rest of the stuff, currently the temp-system and final-system of Cross-LFS, could be the future LFS book that supports multiple architectures. I'll put my comments in now

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Jim Gifford
M.Canales.es wrote: Yes, that is how I see it also. Both books could be almost indentical except in how the tolchains are created and the way used to build the final system (boot or chroot). If we do this, we could remove chroot from the Cross-LFS, since it's only there for same arch to

Re: RFC - Cross-LFS Future

2005-09-15 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jim Gifford wrote: I would like at this time to propose that we create a separate project for Cross-LFS, like ALFS, HLFS and BLFS. snip reasons That sounds like a good idea to me. +1 Justin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/

some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread petrus
Hey guys, As an experiment, the other night I changed the /bin/sh symlink from /bin/bash to /usr/bin/zsh. It didn't go too well. The two main problems I picked up were that first of all, zsh apparently doesn't need the column width variables, and spits the dummy if they're present. The second

Re: some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:29:15AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assembling some patches, because sequethin and I had a look on IRC and it seems that zsh isn't the only shell affected by this - ksh was as well. What I wanted to ask though is, when I've got the patches working, where do

Re: some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread petrus
Before you send patches, they need to work on ash as well, which IIRC, is the closest representation of the original bourne shell. Thanks. I will admit that my current fix is rather a blunt instrument, in the sense that it simply checks to see if the /bin/sh symlink points to bash, and if it

Re: some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread Bryan Kadzban
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any tcsh users here who could tell me which changes (if any) would be needed for that shell? I have a feeling it'd be way too many to ever make it work... basic things like doing ifs use a completely different syntax, so even your if-elif idea won't work for

Re: some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:08:50PM -0400, Joshua Murphy wrote: as a vaguely connected question, how would a person stuck using a university's ssh servers with LDAP change their login shell? other than the obvious running tcsh in login mode ... from .bash_profile or .bashrc (my current hack

Re: optimization for lfs-book (6.5 Creating Directories)

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:13:24PM +0200, Tobias Stoeckmann wrote: Instead of typing install -d /usr/share/man/man{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} the same thing could be done with install -d /usr/share/man/man{1..8}. Fixed. Thanks for the report! -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from

Re: some minor bootscript things

2005-09-15 Thread John Kelly
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:08:50 -0400, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tell me which changes (if any) would be needed for that shell? honestly, far too many ... tcsh is a csh derivative, the syntax and such is far removed form the bourne shells ... it would require a near full re-write of

Re: Discrepancy in Structure, Grammar Suggestion in 1.1

2005-09-15 Thread Archaic
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:47:50PM -0400, John Kelly wrote: All this work to isolate the new system from the host distribution may seem excessive, but a full technical explanation is provided at the beginning of Chapter 5. John and Eric, thanks for your input! Both issues were addressed in