[lfs-support] LFS Issues with Windows 8

2012-12-18 Thread Alexander Spitzer
Hello all,
I have been transferring an LFS system on a USB drive around various
computers and it works for all except a new laptop running Windows 8. In
that case, the BIOS (or is it UEFI?) does not read (or reads and discards)
the grub loader on the USB. There is no way to select the USB drive as a
booting option.
I have plugged in other USBs with Ubuntu and Fedora on this same laptop
and they are recognized. I think this has something to do with the new
secure boot mandate by Microsoft. The interesting thing is that in my bios
settings it is displayed as disabled. What is different about the LFS
system that the BIOS thinks can be malicious? Is it the kernel that needs
to be officially signed or the loader (GRUB)? If this is not a secure boot
issue (it does say it's disabled in bios) what else can be the problem?

It probably is irrelevant but the bios on the Windows 8 laptop is Aptio
2.16. On another laptop (windows 7) I have an earlier version of Aptio (I
think 2.06) and the USB is listed as boot option.

Any insight will be much appreciated,
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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 17:01 -0800, JIA Pei wrote:
 Unfortunately, the reason why I'm using the latest version of Binutils
 is deu to the current wget-list:
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list
 

 However, on the book, it's still using binutils-2.22
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/binutils-pass1.html

You're mixing the stable version of the book, with the download list
from the development version. Why are you doing that?

Simon.



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Re: [lfs-support] Booting LFS Error Kernel Panic

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Melville

  Now it would be nice for it to work using UUIDs so the booting can
  be independent of host system.

 You need to use an initrd of that.  See BLFS.

-- Bruce


Would't using GPT instead of MBR be a viable alternative?

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Re: [lfs-support] keyboard-1.15.3 errors on backspace with uk keymap

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Melville
 I've got a few files at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~ken/
 in the keyboard-items and fonts directories - note that
 LatGrkCyr-8x16 is a 512-ish character font and ships in kbd.  It
 comes from the sigma fonts there which are very much roll your
 own but do allow a 256 character font if that is what you need.

 ?en


Thanks for the help and the link Ken; I'll have a play when I have more
time.  I'm still using vga=792 on the grub kernel boot line to get the
right (for me) sized screen fonts.  Is that still acceptable or is there an
alternative?

Richard
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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Eric Hearn
Restart building all of your tools, pay attention to the cp command,
it requires admin privileges.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 17:01 -0800, JIA Pei wrote:
 Unfortunately, the reason why I'm using the latest version of Binutils
 is deu to the current wget-list:
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list


 However, on the book, it's still using binutils-2.22
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/binutils-pass1.html

 You're mixing the stable version of the book, with the download list
 from the development version. Why are you doing that?

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread JIA Pei
Hi, Simon:

The reason why I'm doing that (use binutils-2.23.1 instead of
binutils-2.22) is I don't want to 100% strictly follow LFS book, so that I
might be able to understand how to build my own Linux deeper.

And, even now, I've got no idea why we need to patch binutils ??
Because without patching binutils, I'm still able to pass BinUtils Pass
1


Any further suggestions please?

Cheers
Pei






On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 17:01 -0800, JIA Pei wrote:
  Unfortunately, the reason why I'm using the latest version of Binutils
  is deu to the current wget-list:
  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list
 

  However, on the book, it's still using binutils-2.22
 
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/binutils-pass1.html

 You're mixing the stable version of the book, with the download list
 from the development version. Why are you doing that?

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Staub
On 12/18/2012 07:51 AM, JIA Pei wrote:

 Hi, Simon:

 The reason why I'm doing that (use binutils-2.23.1 instead of
 binutils-2.22) is I don't want to 100% strictly follow LFS book, so that
 I might be able to understand how to build my own Linux deeper.

 And, even now, I've got no idea why we need to patch binutils ??
 Because without patching binutils, I'm still able to pass BinUtils Pass
 1

The book itself quite clearly explains what the patch does. If you 
*really* want to learn then start by, for example, reading the patch 
itself to see how exactly it works.

However, since you still felt to need to ask, for example, if 
Binutils/GCC Pass 2 was necessary, despite the fact that the build 
process is thoroughly explained, it appears you aren't really making 
much of an effort to read the information that's already there. If you 
really do want to learn start off by - as I've said to you at least 
twice before - actually reading all the text in the book.
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[lfs-support] Glibc installation in target machine fails

2012-12-18 Thread Prabhu
Hi,
I successfully chrooted my target machine and I passed all the way upto
man-page installation, and I stepped into glibc(chapter 6.9). I performed
all the steps till make without any error after entering the make check
command Its giving me an error.

COMMAND ENTERED*:

make -k check 21 | tee glibc-check-log
grep Error glibc-check-log
*

ERROR:
*
diff -p -U 0 ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/nptl/libc.abilist
/sources/glibc-build/libc.symlist
--- ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/nptl/libc.abilist2012-06-30
19:12:34.0 +
+++ /sources/glibc-build/libc.symlist2012-12-18 11:30:50.0 +
@@ -261 +261 @@ GLIBC_2.0
- _nl_default_dirname D 0x12
+ _nl_default_dirname D 0x4a
make[2]: *** [check-abi-libc] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0/elf'
make[1]: *** [elf/tests] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0'
make: *** [check] Error 2
*
Since its a check, I ignored it and I performed with the next step
that's *make
install* even this fails and throw me an error as
*
*ERROR*:

make[2]: *** No rule to make target
`/usr/--disable-profile--enable-add-ons--enable-kernel=2.6.25/lib/libBrokenLocale.so',
needed by `install-lib-nosubdir'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0/locale'
make[1]: *** [locale/subdir_install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0'
make: *** [install] Error 2*

could someone assist me resolve this.
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Re: [lfs-support] Glibc installation in target machine fails

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Staub
On 12/18/2012 08:25 AM, Prabhu wrote:
 Hi,

 Since its a check, I ignored it and I performed with the next step
 that's *make install* even this fails and throw me an error as
 *
 *ERROR*:

 make[2]: *** No rule to make target
 `/usr/--disable-profile--enable-add-ons--enable-kernel=2.6.25/lib/libBrokenLocale.so',
 needed by `install-lib-nosubdir'.  Stop.
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0/locale'
 make[1]: *** [locale/subdir_install] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.16.0'
 make: *** [install] Error 2*

 could someone assist me resolve this.
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Looks like it thinks it was given an odd prefix. There was probably a 
typo on the configure command. Can you check your command history and 
paste the exact configure command you gave?

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread JIA Pei
Hi, Thank you Chris.
Thanks for your reply. I now understand a bit more about why we need
Binutils Pass 1 and Pass 2.

However, I still prefer using Binutils 2.23.1, does that mean I'll have to
create my own patch for Binutils-2.23.1??
Are you planning to afford the patches to all newest needed packages?


Thanks again.


Merry Christmas ^_^
Pei



On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Chris Staub ch...@beaker67.com wrote:

 On 12/18/2012 07:51 AM, JIA Pei wrote:
 
  Hi, Simon:
 
  The reason why I'm doing that (use binutils-2.23.1 instead of
  binutils-2.22) is I don't want to 100% strictly follow LFS book, so that
  I might be able to understand how to build my own Linux deeper.
 
  And, even now, I've got no idea why we need to patch binutils ??
  Because without patching binutils, I'm still able to pass BinUtils Pass
  1

 The book itself quite clearly explains what the patch does. If you
 *really* want to learn then start by, for example, reading the patch
 itself to see how exactly it works.

 However, since you still felt to need to ask, for example, if
 Binutils/GCC Pass 2 was necessary, despite the fact that the build
 process is thoroughly explained, it appears you aren't really making
 much of an effort to read the information that's already there. If you
 really do want to learn start off by - as I've said to you at least
 twice before - actually reading all the text in the book.
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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
JIA Pei wrote:
 Hi, Thank you Chris.
 Thanks for your reply. I now understand a bit more about why we need
 Binutils Pass 1 and Pass 2.

 However, I still prefer using Binutils 2.23.1, does that mean I'll have to
 create my own patch for Binutils-2.23.1??
 Are you planning to afford the patches to all newest needed packages?

Just use the development book if you want to use the latest packages.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/

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Re: [lfs-support] Booting LFS Error Kernel Panic

2012-12-18 Thread spiky

On 18/12/12 01:24, Alexander Spitzer wrote:

Hello all,

I am having a hard time booting my LFS system, which is on a USB 
drive. I installed grub on /dev/sdc (the usb relative to the host) and 
the bios successfully finds GRUB. After around 2.3 seconds, the boot 
process hangs after printing what I believe to be a trace call. 
Interestingly, one time when I booted the trace call was short enough 
for me to write down the error which I can't normally see due to the 
length of the trace prints. Here is the error:


Kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown 
block(0,0)


What exactly does unknown block(0,0) mean?

The problem appears to be that the kernel can't find the root file 
system. How can that be a problem, if the kernel, which is ON the root 
file system, was found and ran?

Here is the grub.cfg file:
# Begin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
set default=0
set timeout=5

insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,1)

menuentry GNU/Linux, Linux 3.7-lfs-SVN-20121212 {
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.7-lfs-SVN-20121212 root=/dev/sda1 ro
}

I believe the USB is always sda because to boot I do a manual boot 
override and select USB from the BIOS menu. The grub command line also 
confirms this.


Searching online, there were some suggestions that the kernel was 
compiled without support for necessary file systems and hardware. I 
check my config file for the kernel and found all the important 
options to be set to yes (USB_mass_storage, ext3 filesystem, USB UHCI, 
USB OHCI, and several scsi ones). There are however many USB options 
that are not set. Are there any specific ones that should be set for 
the kernel to load the root filesystem?


Also, I've tried unsuccessfully to read more of the boot output by two 
methods: increasing the resolution and scrolling back. The scroll back 
buffer is set to yes in the kernel config yet shift page down and 
shift page up do nothing. Also, vga=791 is deprecated and I haven't 
been able to get any effect by using set vgxpayload=1024x728.

How can I read the boot print outputs without a high speed camera?

Thanks,
Alex



Hi
This is my grub.cfg which is on usb drive that works

# Begin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
set default=0
set timeout=5


insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,1)

menuentry Planet-Spike7 {
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2-lfs-7.0 root=/dev/sdc1 rootdelay=5 ro
}

the rootdelay seems to be the cure tou might want to try 10 instaed of 5 
then adjust it.

It takes time for the usb to recognised

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Re: [lfs-support] keyboard-1.15.3 errors on backspace with uk keymap

2012-12-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:41:38AM +, Richard Melville wrote:
 
 Thanks for the help and the link Ken; I'll have a play when I have more
 time.  I'm still using vga=792 on the grub kernel boot line to get the
 right (for me) sized screen fonts.  Is that still acceptable or is there an
 alternative?
 
 On my server I still use that.  On one of my desktops I use
video=1024x768.  ISTR that grub moans about vga= but it still works.

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread JIA Pei
Thank you so much Bruce...
I proceed to expect 5.45 now 
But, I got two test fails as follows. Is this normal?


* expect-1.8b default remove null behavior FAILED*
* Contents of test case:*
*
*
*spawn cat $filename*
*expect ab*
*set rc [regexp $expect_out(buffer) ab]*
*wait*
*set rc*
*
*
* Result was:*
*0*
* Result should have been (exact matching):*
*1*
* expect-1.8b FAILED*
*
*
*
*
*
*
* expect-1.9 match null inline FAILED*
* Contents of test case:*
*
*
*spawn cat $filename*
*remove_nulls 0*
*expect a\ub*
*set rc [regexp $expect_out(buffer) a\ub]*
*close*
*wait*
*set rc*
*
*
* Result was:*
*0*
* Result should have been (exact matching):*
*1*
* expect-1.9 FAILED*
*
*
*logfile.test*
*via sendvia send_uservia send_stdoutvia send_ttypid.test*
*send.test*
*spawn.test*
*stty.test*
*all.tcl:Total   29  Passed  27  Skipped 0   Failed  2*
*Sourced 0 Test Files.*
*Files with failing tests: expect.test*




Cheers
Pei





On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote:

 JIA Pei wrote:
  Hi, Thank you Chris.
  Thanks for your reply. I now understand a bit more about why we need
  Binutils Pass 1 and Pass 2.
 
  However, I still prefer using Binutils 2.23.1, does that mean I'll have
 to
  create my own patch for Binutils-2.23.1??
  Are you planning to afford the patches to all newest needed packages?

 Just use the development book if you want to use the latest packages.

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
JIA Pei wrote:
 Thank you so much Bruce...
 I proceed to expect 5.45 now 
 But, I got two test fails as follows. Is this normal?

We do not recommend running tests in Chapter 5.  They often depend on 
the host system and we don't know what the arbitrary user has as a host.

You are on your own for tests in Chapter 5.

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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread JIA Pei
Now, fail to build check-0.9.9 ...
The error message is:

*/mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.7.2/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
note: 'pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.1' is defined in DSO
/tools/lib/libpthread.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line*
*/tools/lib/libpthread.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation*
*collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status*
*make[2]: *** [check_thread_stress] Error 1*
*make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/check-0.9.9/tests'*
*make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1*
*make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/check-0.9.9'*
*make: *** [all] Error 2*


I tried to re-configure it as mentioned in
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lfs.support/35698
namely:
*$ CFLAGS=-L/tools/lib -lpthread*
*$ ./configure --prefix=/tools*


Problem continues, namely, the above error message is still there...

How to solve this problem though?



cheers
Pei

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 JIA Pei wrote:
  Thank you so much Bruce...
  I proceed to expect 5.45 now 
  But, I got two test fails as follows. Is this normal?

 We do not recommend running tests in Chapter 5.  They often depend on
 the host system and we don't know what the arbitrary user has as a host.

 You are on your own for tests in Chapter 5.

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Re: [lfs-support] glibc --enable-kernel=2.6.25? why?

2012-12-18 Thread William Harrington


On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Michael E. Maher wrote:


‘--enable-kernel=version’
   This option is currently only useful on GNU/Linux systems. The
version parameter should have the form X.Y.Z and describes the  
smallest

version of the Linux kernel the generated library is expected to
support. The higher the version number is, the less compatibility code
is added, and the faster the code gets.


And reduces the size of the built glibc. You want to set the version  
to the the oldest kernel version you may ever use, even when using a  
livecd or distro to chroot to it.
The version set in the book covers most of the latest distros. Just be  
careful setting it too the current kernel version unless you know for  
sure your host or any livecd or distro you use for recovery or  
administrative tasks via chroot will run the resulting glibc of the  
LFS build.


Many people, when building LFS, will use the latest kernel version  
headers and enable the kernel version to the current version as they  
know what they are doing. If unsure, can't go wrong using what the  
book uses for that parameter.


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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Staub
On 12/18/2012 09:23 PM, JIA Pei wrote:

 Now, fail to build check-0.9.9 ...
 The error message is:

 //mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.7.2/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
 note: 'pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.1' is defined in DSO
 /tools/lib/libpthread.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line/
 //tools/lib/libpthread.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation/
 /collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status/
 /make[2]: *** [check_thread_stress] Error 1/
 /make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/check-0.9.9/tests'/
 /make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1/
 /make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/check-0.9.9'/
 /make: *** [all] Error 2/


 I tried to re-configure it as mentioned in
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lfs.support/35698
 namely:
 *$ CFLAGS=-L/tools/lib -lpthread*
 *$ ./configure --prefix=/tools*


 Problem continues, namely, the above error message is still there...

 How to solve this problem though?

You want to learn, you figure out yourself how to fix it.
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Re: [lfs-support] Is it a must to separate Binutils and GCC into Pass 1 and Pass 2?

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Staub
On 12/18/2012 09:07 PM, JIA Pei wrote:

 Thank you so much Bruce...
 I proceed to expect 5.45 now 
 But, I got two test fails as follows. Is this normal?


If you had read the book like you're expected to, you would already know 
the answer to this. If you can't be bothered to read it, quit wasting 
time here and figure it all out yourself.
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