Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-03-14 Thread tracyleon
There are multiple ways available to secure voice option for china like, use of vpn tool is best option in all. I have some sources that you can use for this..Source: www.vpnranks.com -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-17 Thread ITechGeek
While we have no consensus, most of these options are using similar stuff at the encrypted layers. Realistically as long as the encryption is good, the Chinese gov't can only block stuff by host/IP/protocol, I think all the VPN providers listed are taking active steps to change IPs and obscure

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-17 Thread Tim Libert
thanks all for the many good suggestions! however, in absence of a clear consensus, I will advise my friend to avoid voice and stick to encrypted email. my understanding is that the new leadership in china isn’t f#cking around, so the risk/reward equation here suggests heightened caution -

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-17 Thread Seth David Schoen
Tim Libert writes: thanks all for the many good suggestions! however, in absence of a clear consensus, I will advise my friend to avoid voice and stick to encrypted email. my understanding is that the new leadership in china isn’t f#cking around, so the risk/reward equation here suggests

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-16 Thread Francisco Ruiz
You may want to try a solution based on webRTC, which establishes a TLS-like communication directly between computers. There's vline.com and talky.io, but I'm not sure how secure they are at server level My own app, PassLok, does webRTC audio-only chat if that's what you want. The initiator makes

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-14 Thread hellekin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/12/2015 01:45 PM, Tim Libert wrote: to have a secure voice conversation with persons located in mainland china *** Here is something I'm looking at: Tox (https://tox.im/) The project is APLHA software aiming at replacing Skype. It

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-14 Thread ITechGeek
It looks nice, but I would wait before using it when the people you're trying to hide from can throw you in jail if found. I will say I like how they're also making it a plugin for existing IM clients Pidgin Adium. I also can't look at their bugs page cause they have HSTS enabled and the SSL

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-13 Thread ITechGeek
I know a number of VPN providers have a mode for hiding their OpenVPN connections (the VPN provider I have calls it Chameleon and says it's proprietary and you have to use their software). The solution that I personaly think might be better, is using Mumble in half duplex mode over TOR.

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-13 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015, at 04:06 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote: And this is why even people who care about their privacy still use Skype. Is it really that hard? 2-step process below. 1) Setup VPN Astrill and Express VPNs are both working in China, as of today. https://www.astrill.com/

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread Andrew Lewis
From anecdotal experience: Running your own OpenVPN endpoint on a cloud provider like digitalocean* seems to work really well as long as you wrap the OpenVPN connection in something else like obfsproxy or stunnel. Theoretically if a commercial provider implemented something besides pure openvpn

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Tim Libert wrote: asking for a friend, can anybody suggest best ways to have a secure voice conversation with persons located in mainland china from outside china? threat model is interception by chinese authorities, other states/actors are not of

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/12/2015 01:06 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote: And this is why even people who care about their privacy still use Skype. Bad actors go to extraordinary, stupid lengths to restrict access and put surveillance measures in place. Hours rivalling

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread Brian Behlendorf
And this is why even people who care about their privacy still use Skype. Brian On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, Andrew Lewis wrote: From anecdotal experience: Running your own OpenVPN endpoint on a cloud provider like digitalocean* seems to work really well as long as you wrap the OpenVPN connection

Re: [liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, The Doctor wrote: On 02/12/2015 01:06 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote: And this is why even people who care about their privacy still use Skype. Bad actors go to extraordinary, stupid lengths to restrict access and put surveillance measures in place. Hours rivalling that of

[liberationtech] secure voice options for china?

2015-02-12 Thread Tim Libert
asking for a friend, can anybody suggest best ways to have a secure voice conversation with persons located in mainland china from outside china? threat model is interception by chinese authorities, other states/actors are not of significant concern. email alone is insufficient for task.