All,
I am still trying to digest the full significance of everything that has been
disclosed and discussed in the past 72 hours, but the issues that I keep coming
back to in my head, and which I will likely write more about, are:
1. This scandal, and the financial crisis that happened not long
Hi,
Just a short note from Brussels where we're now seeing (and starting to
explain) the massive US lobbying under a different light... Last year,
the Commission presented a legislative proposal to update privacy laws
in Europe. EDRi has been reporting on this for a while now and since
then,
On 8 June 2013 22:04, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
I want to encourage all the open source, communication and security software
developers on this list to start talking about metadata.
1. Start raising awareness on what metadata is given to your software and how
it's handled.
2.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 01:30:19AM -0700, x z wrote:
First of all, I don't feel offended by Jacob's reply to my email at all,
probably because I know and expect his style of wording. So far I think the
discussion is still pretty civil.
I concur. This is what spirited discussion looks like.
Some news in Canada similar to the NSA revelations in the US:
Defence Minister Peter MacKay approved a secret electronic eavesdropping
program that scours global telephone records and Internet data trails –
including those of Canadians – for patterns of suspicious activity.
Mr. MacKay signed a
the buried lede in all these stories is that cooperation agreements mean
Canadians can spy on US citizens (but are only ever asked about Canadians,
Canadian pols only talk about protections for their citizens), US can spy
on Canadians (but are only asked about US, US pols only talk about
Another application for the deep packet inspection technique..
On Jun 9, 2013 6:32 PM, Gregory Maxwell g...@xiph.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
but the ability to assemble intelligence out of taps on providers'
internal connections
would
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On 06/09/2013 05:43 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
I have to say going to Hong Kong for free speech and safety seems
like a very odd choice to me. What was he thinking?
The articles state that he was assigned to and living in Hawaii. It
is possible that
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On 06/09/2013 06:04 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
Still, I have to wonder why he didn't go somewhere like Iceland. To
me, that would have been a no-brainer.
He would probably have had to make at least one, possibly more
layovers in the United
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On 06/09/2013 08:40 PM, Raven Jiang CX wrote:
than us. My guess is that asylum in Iceland is ideal if everything
worked out, but he doesn't think it is strong enough to resist
U.S. pressure.
Hypothetically speaking, would being granted asylum
You have to love the reply: We've come a long way since the Pentagon
Papers were sidelined by Tricia Nixon's garden wedding party ROFLMAO!
SN
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
Check out this screenshot of the front page of the New York Times right
now.
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/prism-vs-tor
By now, just about everybody has heard about the PRISM surveillance
program, and many are beginning to speculate on its impact on Tor.
Unfortunately, there still are a lot of gaps to fill in terms of
understanding what is really going on, especially
Hi. I thought this might be of interest here:
http://www.rants.org/2013/06/09/privacy-promises-and-client-side-betrayal/
Thesis: Apps that promise self-destructing data, promise emails that can
be un-sent, etc, are making promises they cannot keep -- at least not if
they are to work with
Regarding extraordinary renditions: I have to note that there has been
phenomenally zip in the news media on these since Obama got smacked on the
nose about them a few years ago. Most of the FBI news stories regarding
domestic terrorism have been show trials regarding sting operations of
Muslim
I don't know who you are or what work you do; perhaps it is the greatest
work ever done in law and the digital age.
You were linked on Hacker
Newshttps://mailman.stanford.edu/pipermail/liberationtech/2013-June/008839.html,
so I will assume what you are concerned with is important. There is an
From: h.herzogenrath-amel...@leeds.ac.uk
We're sure you all agree that the most recent developments in the US have
confirmed again the importance of continuing critical scholarly debate on
the scope and implications of current surveillance practices.
The Leeds Humanities Research Institute is
Assange is still living at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, coming
up on his first anniversary, despite being granted asylum.. so..
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
a...@acm.org
+1 (817) 271-9619
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Shava Nerad
Hello again…
I'm giving a talk/book signing on mobile payments, Bitcoin and the law on June
20th in downtown Palo Alto. Liberationtech folks welcome.
http://legalforce52.eventbrite.com
Registration (which I don't control) appears to be open for the next two days.
Aaron
--
Too many emails?
From: Charles Lenchner clench...@organizing20.org, the well known sell
out and corporate shill from Organizing 2.0
I'll never give up using FB and gmail. I want the government to know what
I'm up to at all times so it's completely transparent and I'll never be
suspected of anything.
Then, if I
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I was going to buy my nephew a savings bond for his birthday (he is one,
what else can you really get him?) and I was trying to sign up on
treasurydirect.gov and was appauled by the security so I thought I would
share.
First they have all these
A Taxonomy of PRISM Possibilities
June 7, 2013
By Alex Stamos
I have been fielding a decent number of calls and emails from reporters on the
NSA PRISM scandal. A lot of people are trying to synthesize reasonable
technical explanations for how the NSA could implement the program described in
OK, but now the government knows you're one of them faux cheerful
do-gooders! xd
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
a...@acm.org
+1 (817) 271-9619
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote:
From: Charles Lenchner
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM, x z xhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
Occam's razor would give us the following is what has actually happened in
the past three days: a semi-clueless whistle blower fed an overzealous
journalist a low-quality powerpoint deck, which met the privacy-paranoia and
Maxim Kammerer:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM, x z xhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
Occam's razor would give us the following is what has actually happened in
the past three days: a semi-clueless whistle blower fed an overzealous
journalist a low-quality powerpoint deck, which met the
From: Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu
To: Liberation Technologies liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
Cc: Charles Lenchner clench...@organizing20.org
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: [liberationtech] Use of PRISM corporations by social activists
campaigns
From: Charles
On 10-06-13 21:36, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
Maxim Kammerer:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM, x zxhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
Occam's razor would give us the following is what has actually
happened in the past three days: a semi-clueless whistle blower
fed an overzealous journalist a low-quality
Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
What qualifies a journalist as overzealous? Is it passion and hard work?
When this passion produces a consistent stream of intelligent arguments and
debate, is it still overzealous? Ask yourself these questions.
I don't think Glenn Greenwald is
On 9 June 2013 17:43, Matt Johnson railm...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to say going to Hong Kong for free speech and safety seems like
a very odd choice to me. What was he thinking?
I actually think Hong Kong seems pretty smart. Parroting the news
organizations, Hong Kong has some extradition
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The Pirate Party of Canada has issued a release on this, due to
Canadians interest in themselves we are focusing on Canadian
surveillance of Canadians rather than foreign cooperation.
https://www.pirateparty.ca/newsletter/warrantless-surveillance/
Thanks so much to everyone who helped! The translations are now all up to date.
I'd like to extend special thanks to Dragana Kaurin from OpenITP. OpenITP is
launching a localization management platform soon, too, so I hope working with
them will make this stuff easier in the future. :-)
NK
x z:
@Jacob, I agree with your points regarding American exceptionalism.
@Eugen, to prepare for the worst scenario is one thing, to advocate some
shady rumor as fact is another.
@Rich, those are good movie scripts :-). But it does not work for 9 firms,
and hundreds of execs all with diverse
Catherine,
Opera is not shut out. It's simply difficult to develop for Opera due to its
limited browser extension API. Your email made it sound as if Cryptocat had
something against the Opera browser.
We have a ticket open for Opera compatibility in our code base. If you'd like
to, you can
On 2013-06-10, at 6:09 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote:
x z:
@Jacob, I agree with your points regarding American exceptionalism.
@Eugen, to prepare for the worst scenario is one thing, to advocate some
shady rumor as fact is another.
@Rich, those are good movie scripts :-).
On 2013-06-10, at 6:26 PM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote:
The distinction between direct or indirect access is semantic, not
substantive, and likely irrelevant to most Americans. What Americans want to
know is whether there is access to their personal data, and I would bet
On 6/10/13 4:40 PM, Tom Ritter wrote:
On 9 June 2013 17:43, Matt Johnson railm...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to say going to Hong Kong for free speech and safety seems like
a very odd choice to me. What was he thinking?
I actually think Hong Kong seems pretty smart. Parroting the news
Two issues that are tending to get conflated in the wider discourse
about PRISM, Boundless Informant, etc. are:
(1) Are these programs justifieid?
(2) Was it justified to keep the existence of these programs secret?
Snowden has said his primary judgment was about question (2), but
proponents
I argue that direct access or not is is substantive, not semantic. We have
the following two versions of the story:
*A: The Guardian story alleges that NSA has direct access to user data from
major internet firms, and these firms are willingly cooperating with NSA
for the capability of en masse
Of course they're not justified, unless you want to flush civil liberties
down the drain.
On Jun 10, 2013 6:03 PM, Todd Davies dav...@stanford.edu wrote:
Two issues that are tending to get conflated in the wider discourse about
PRISM, Boundless Informant, etc. are:
(1) Are these programs
x z:
I argue that direct access or not is is substantive, not semantic. We have
the following two versions of the story:
*A: The Guardian story alleges that NSA has direct access to user data from
major internet firms, and these firms are willingly cooperating with NSA
for the capability of
Heu!
On 11.06.2013, at 01:11, x z xhzh...@gmail.com wrote:
I argue that direct access or not is is substantive, not semantic. We have
the following two versions of the story:
*A: The Guardian story alleges that NSA has direct access to user data from
major internet firms, and these firms
On 10/06/2013 6:18 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Catherine,
Opera is not shut out. It's simply difficult to develop for Opera due to its
limited browser extension API. Your email made it sound as if Cryptocat had something
against the Opera browser.
My email is simply stating that Opera is shut
On 11.06.2013 02:21, Catherine Roy wrote:
We have a ticket open for Opera compatibility in our code base. If
you'd like to, you can contribute to Cryptocat for Opera development
here:
I am not a developer. Must we all be developers to have a significant
influence on these types of issues ?
you're the best nadim. thank you so much :)
On Monday, June 10, 2013 17:44 EDT, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
Thanks so much to everyone who helped! The translations are now all up to
date.
I'd like to extend special thanks to Dragana Kaurin from OpenITP. OpenITP is
launching
Office of the Director of National Intelligence (Jun 10) - Director
James R. Clapper Interview with Andrea Mitchell, NBC News Chief Foreign
Affairs Correspondent (Liberty Crossing, Tyson's Corner, VA: Jun 8, 1pm):
It's important for the data-at-rest password to have lots of entropy.
But using a long password for unlocking the screen annoys the user, and
they will choose a shorter one. Therefore it's important to separate them.
See this open source app to set them separately:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Todd Davies dav...@stanford.edu wrote:
Two issues that are tending to get conflated in the wider discourse about
PRISM, Boundless Informant, etc. are:
(1) Are these programs justifieid?
(2) Was it justified to keep the existence of these programs secret?
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Todd Davies dav...@stanford.edu wrote:
Two issues that are tending to get conflated in the wider discourse about
PRISM, Boundless Informant, etc. are:
(1) Are these programs justifieid?
(2) Was it justified to keep
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