On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 04:39:48PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 16:03, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> > There are a bunch of users who want you to fully express all the optional
> > deps, so they're guaranteed everything is installed by default. There are
> > another bunch of users who
On 09/30/22 16:03, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> There are a bunch of users who want you to fully express all the optional
> deps, so they're guaranteed everything is installed by default. There are
> another bunch of users who want everything to be optional so they can
> make the most minimalist
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:57:15PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 15:35, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:23:31PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> >> On 09/30/22 14:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> >>
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:57:15PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> This is the same terrible "push" (or "registration") model (rather than
> the "pull") model that plagues systemd: if a kernel module is missing
> from the initrd that's needed for driving a device or a filesystem, the
> boot gets
On 09/30/22 15:35, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:23:31PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 09/30/22 14:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>
(2d) I started icewm with "icewm --replace" (as recommended by the
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 02:58:19PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 13:52, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> >> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 03:23:31PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 14:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>
> >> (2d) I started icewm with "icewm --replace" (as recommended by the error
> >> message from (2c)), and lo and
On 09/30/22 14:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> (2d) I started icewm with "icewm --replace" (as recommended by the error
>> message from (2c)), and lo and behold, two changes had come into effect:
>>
>> - the spinner started working
On 09/30/22 14:18, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:11:50PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> - availability in RHEL
>
> This is really required, and moving icewm into RHEL isn't
> something that is easy to negotiate.
I'm not so sure it is really that much required;
On 09/30/22 14:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
On 09/30/22 13:52, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:11:50PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> icewm is available in RHEL 9.
Actually as Dan says, this isn't true.
I checked and it comes from EPEL:
# dnf install icewm
Updating Subscription Management repositories.
Unable to read consumer identity
This system is not
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:11:50PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hmm, here's an interesting
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:01:09PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> Also I reckon Rich does not use metacity -- originally a gtk2-based
> window manager -- on his laptop, but the gnome shell. gnome shell could
> similarly eliminate the issue. (Assuming we agree that the issue is *in*
> metacity.)
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
> >>
> >>
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:50:43PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 13:01, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>
> > ... meant to add: this has proved Daniel's point that the WM is
> > extremely important. For the record, I use IceWM locally, so when I
> > run virt-p2v "directly", on my workstation, and
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:40PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
> >>
> >>
On 09/30/22 13:01, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> ... meant to add: this has proved Daniel's point that the WM is
> extremely important. For the record, I use IceWM locally, so when I
> run virt-p2v "directly", on my workstation, and forward X11 over SSH,
> the reason for me seeing the spinner in the GTK3
On 09/30/22 12:56, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
>>>
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3301023/gtk-spinner-not-appearing
On 09/30/22 11:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
>>
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3301023/gtk-spinner-not-appearing
>>
>> The first point is "Make sure librsvg is
On 09/30/22 11:04, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 09:41:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 08:55:02AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:12:15PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:33:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3301023/gtk-spinner-not-appearing
>
> The first point is "Make sure librsvg is installed". librsvg is _not_
> installed in the
Hmm, here's an interesting stackoverflow posting ...
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3301023/gtk-spinner-not-appearing
The first point is "Make sure librsvg is installed". librsvg is _not_
installed in the ISO. Laszlo, can you try building an ISO with this
package explicitly added to the
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:04:27AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> As an idea to debug it more, try using the GTK inspector
>
>$ GTK_DEBUG=interactive
>
> this will popup a second window, which lets you browse the
> widget hierarchy, view properties, etc. This might let you
> see
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 09:41:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 08:55:02AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:12:15PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > >
On 09/30/22 09:55, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:12:15PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> http://lacos.interhost.hu/livecd-p2v-202209291608-gitc213ae00a337.iso
>>>
>>> (built at c213ae00a337)
>>>
>>>
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 08:55:02AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:12:15PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > http://lacos.interhost.hu/livecd-p2v-202209291608-gitc213ae00a337.iso
> > >
> > >
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 07:12:15PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > http://lacos.interhost.hu/livecd-p2v-202209291608-gitc213ae00a337.iso
> >
> > (built at c213ae00a337)
> >
> > sha256:
On 09/29/22 20:12, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> http://lacos.interhost.hu/livecd-p2v-202209291608-gitc213ae00a337.iso
>>
>> (built at c213ae00a337)
>>
>> sha256: f3a149aeab0179213d74bb1eac30d5d6f807d4c9cf3a548667903d5434d5699a
>
> No
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> http://lacos.interhost.hu/livecd-p2v-202209291608-gitc213ae00a337.iso
>
> (built at c213ae00a337)
>
> sha256: f3a149aeab0179213d74bb1eac30d5d6f807d4c9cf3a548667903d5434d5699a
No spinner!
While I remember, an annoying virt-p2v bug
On 09/29/22 11:27, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> The tricky question is why the spinner works fine (using GTK3) in my
> quite-non-standard environment (namely, forwarding X11 over ssh to my
> local IceWM environment), but does not work in the Live VM environment,
> which should be identical (including
On 09/28/22 19:02, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 02:01:11PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> (this reproduces at commit 0687cea6a86e; IOW the regression is not from
>> the recent GTK-related patches, but due to building p2v with GTK3. as
>> opposed to GTK2)
>>
>> In the first
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 02:01:11PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> (this reproduces at commit 0687cea6a86e; IOW the regression is not from
> the recent GTK-related patches, but due to building p2v with GTK3. as
> opposed to GTK2)
>
> In the first dialog, when the Test Connection button is clicked, a
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 02:01:11PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> (this reproduces at commit 0687cea6a86e; IOW the regression is not from
> the recent GTK-related patches, but due to building p2v with GTK3. as
> opposed to GTK2)
>
> In the first dialog, when the Test Connection button is clicked, a
(this reproduces at commit 0687cea6a86e; IOW the regression is not from
the recent GTK-related patches, but due to building p2v with GTK3. as
opposed to GTK2)
In the first dialog, when the Test Connection button is clicked, a
spinner is supposed to be shown to the left, while p2v communicates via
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