[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #52 from ⁨خالد حسني⁩ --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #51) > (In reply to ⁨خالد حسني⁩ from comment #49) > > The problem here is awful results from libexttextcat. Especially on small > text length. Despite "working

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #51 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to ⁨خالد حسني⁩ from comment #49) The problem here is awful results from libexttextcat. Especially on small text length. Despite "working as designed", the resulting menu is unacceptably

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #50 from Michael Bauer --- The current behaviour is not acceptable. End users require a simple way of being able to control the languages offered for proofing. At the moment, it's a) a lottery which languages are offered b)

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #49 from ⁨خالد حسني⁩ --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #48) > UX was involved earlier, with not much to add. > > The issue why Welsh is offered for Gaelic. It should be clear why languages > are offered, ideally

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 ⁨خالد حسني⁩ changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||needsUXEval --- Comment #47 from

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #46 from ⁨خالد حسني⁩ --- Created attachment 188072 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=188072=edit MS Word languge window What MS Word is doing does not seem to be so sophisticated either, on a mix

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 ⁨خالد حسني⁩ changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kha...@libreoffice.org --- Comment

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #43 from Michael Bauer --- Gladly but it seems everyone is pointing the finger somewhere else. All I (and I would imagine any sane user) want is for the menu at the bottom not to show random languages but those relating to the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #42 from Eike Rathke --- This bug has gone a long way from "the status bar menu displays odd languages to select from" to criticizing all things around language and font attribution. Can we please get back to the original

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #41 from Michael Bauer --- And those bugs you linked don't criticize the ability to set the language from the status bar, they criticize the INability to do so i.e. the fact that instead of being able to set it from the bar,

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #40 from Michael Bauer --- So you're seriously suggesting that offering me Tibetan but not the proofing languages I have installed (English/Gaelic/German) is intended and desirably behaviour? No wonder it's so hard to take

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #39 from Heiko Tietze --- Setting the language via statusbar has been criticized many times, see bug 143366, bug 116158 - bug 107288 (all NAB/WF) and bug 114178. Whatever we do, it will be wrong in some scenarios. Either it

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #38 from Michael Bauer --- (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #37) > Why is it impractical to select characters and double-click a character > style from the sidebar or be in a pragraph and double-click a paragraph > style or

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #37 from Buovjaga --- (In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #36) > So what does that mean in terms of fixing the impractical approach to > changing the language of a specific bit of text or document in LO? Why is it

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #36 from Michael Bauer --- So what does that mean in terms of fixing the impractical approach to changing the language of a specific bit of text or document in LO? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #35 from Eike Rathke --- Much of the confusion why the Language list even sits beside the font options probably results from the fact that most people do not have CJK and CTL enabled, otherwise they would get two or three font

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #34 from Eike Rathke --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #29) > Some background on the language tag are here [1]. > [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/languagetags Those 3-4 letter "Language

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #33 from Michael Bauer --- Recte: * I think it's trying to do the RIGHT thing -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #32 from Michael Bauer --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #31) > If the request is to make auto detection work reliably we have to wait for > experts/volunteers. Perhaps we could invite some? > If you think that

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #31 from Heiko Tietze --- If the request is to make auto detection work reliably we have to wait for experts/volunteers. If you think that manually picking the language has room for improvements we can discuss this. I don't

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #30 from Michael Bauer --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #29) > Some background on the language tag are here [1]. The point is that complex > layouts like Korean require special glyphs and RTL fonts have a different >

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #29 from Heiko Tietze --- Some background on the language tag are here [1]. The point is that complex layouts like Korean require special glyphs and RTL fonts have a different reading direction, for example. That's not the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #28 from Michael Bauer --- That is still bonkers. The locale tag (or whatever it is) of text shouldn't hinge on fonts, formatting or style. When was that ever a good idea? ;) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #27 from Buovjaga --- (In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #26) > Can someone please explain to me how associating a font with a language is > supposed to work please unless you're a monolingual who only ever types in > the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #26 from Michael Bauer --- Can someone please explain to me how associating a font with a language is supposed to work please unless you're a monolingual who only ever types in the one language? So let's say I associate Times

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Eike Rathke changed: What|Removed |Added Component|LibreOffice |Writer --- Comment #25 from Eike

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #24 from Michael Bauer --- Six years on, the only way I can reliably change the document or section language in LO is by opening the document in MS Office, changing the document language and then going back to LO. Talk about

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #22 from Michael Bauer --- Still the same, paste a piece of English text, I'm being offered German, Spanish (not even installed) and Gaelic. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #21 from Michael Bauer --- I'm now being offered Gaelic, Faroese and German (only Gaelic and German are language I actually have proofing installed for) and again, I have no idea where Faroese is coming from. The language I

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #20 from Michael Bauer --- Created attachment 158190 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=158190=edit Screenshot of LO still offerent anything but what I expect -- You are receiving this mail because:

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #19 from Michael Bauer --- Just to confirm this is still a problem in 6.3.4.2 (x64) (attaching screenshot), today I've been offered en-US, Rumantsch and Irish (the last two I have neither as a proofing language in LO or Office

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #15 from frostwyrm...@gmail.com --- Still happens in 5.1 version. Extension languages are not offered by default. With certain highlighted words, it will offer you a correct language with a wrong name like Catalan or Gaelic,

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #11 from Michael Bauer --- Errr right. I mean, thank you for pointing that out but I think I will continue keeping this bug open because that must be the most un-intuitive menu in LO. I have done

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #10 from Beluga --- (In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #8) > But I don't need to change the association of specific fonts with specific > languages. All of the languages in question use the Latin

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- Created attachment 119967 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119967=edit Spellcheck example It works for me as expected. Right-click an unknown word

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #14 from Michael Bauer --- Hi Heiko :) which reminds me I need to bring the other translation up to speed. Right-click context menu on a word is also not behaving as it should for me. If I do that, (I

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #2 from Michael Bauer --- No. I know that function (though I find it rather useless as it just points at the extensions site rather than help user pull directly from some repo). The point is that since I

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 Beluga changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #4 from Michael Bauer --- Well, yes and not. If I click onto the language display area and select More, it takes me to the dialogue where I can change the font associated with a language (which won't fix my

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #5 from Beluga --- (In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #4) > Well, yes and not. If I click onto the language display area and select > More, it takes me to the dialogue where I can change the font

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #6 from Michael Bauer --- Yes I'm sure it does but I can only change it to a language LO is SHOWING me in that menu and right now, that's (depending on the mood of LO), en-US, gd-GB, de-LUX or cy-GB. But

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #7 from Beluga --- Created attachment 119946 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119946=edit Screenshot showing the language dropdown Here is what I see. You only have a couple in

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #8 from Michael Bauer --- But I don't need to change the association of specific fonts with specific languages. All of the languages in question use the Latin alphabet so I should be able to change between

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #9 from Michael Bauer --- Created attachment 119947 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119947=edit screenshot showing unexpected language offering -- You are receiving this mail

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274 --- Comment #3 from Beluga --- Aha.. for me it doesn't open extensions site, but either character or paragraph formatting dialogs or the language options dialog. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the