https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Michael Warner changed:
What|Removed |Added
Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |michael.warner.ut+libreoffi
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #79 from V Stuart Foote ---
*** Bug 143296 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #78 from Mihail Balabanov ---
For the time being, I published my workaround solution as an extension. It is a
LibreOffice Basic macro for Cycle Case which honors the selection, autoselects
only a single word when there is no
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #77 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Mihail Balabanov from comment #76)
> What can we, as users, do to help the developers fix it sooner?
Find a volunteer or get professional support. Changing the selection is not a
simple
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #76 from Mihail Balabanov ---
In version 7.2, the Cycle Case command is still largely unusable for the use
cases that are important to me.
What can we, as users, do to help the developers fix it sooner?
- Is more user input
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #75 from MK ---
Fwiw and not wishing to add to the heat generated above, as a simple user of
LibreOffice this is not expected behaviour: if I select a section of text and
conduct an operation, I expect it to be restricted to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Ming Hua changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||ciprian.tro...@yahoo.com
--- Comment
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||reinaldoce...@gmail.com
---
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||nikif...@mail.bg
--- Comment
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Simon changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||simonpaulspring...@gmail.co
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Dieter changed:
What|Removed |Added
Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64) |All
Version|7.0.0.0.beta1+
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
pgbor...@gmail.com changed:
What|Removed |Added
OS|All |Linux (All)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||rohitka...@gmail.com
---
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #68 from Will ---
This bug still exists.
If a user selects a piece of text, the user is giving an instruction to the
programme: "I am working with this piece of text only."
I do not understand why the programme would
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Dieter changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||ga...@currah.us
--- Comment #67 from
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Dieter changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||ntar...@gmail.com
--- Comment #66 from
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||sdc.bla...@youmail.dk
---
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:
What|Removed |Added
See Also|
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Xisco Faulí changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||j...@jfdeck.net
--- Comment #63
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #62 from Wolf ---
In
my Version: 6.2.4.2
Build-ID: 1:6.2.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1
it is even more odd:
* put the cursor in one word - hit Shift-F3: case of that word cycles
* put the cursor in another word - hit Shift-F3:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #61 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #60)
> Most of the duplicates here are complaints that Sentence case was added to
> the Shift-F3 sequence in LO 6.1
>
> authorheiko tietze 2018-03-26
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #60 from Justin L ---
Most of the duplicates here are complaints that Sentence case was added to the
Shift-F3 sequence in LO 6.1
author heiko tietze 2018-03-26 14:58:23 +0200
commit 84f8e28d092676aad830a9fbae8145a57c6301bc
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||danilog...@gmail.com
---
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #58 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #57)
> (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #34)
>
> Yes, with selection made--honor the selection.
Fully agree.
> > 5. What should be done with
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #57 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #34)
> 1. What should be done when a sentence start is selected, but not to the
> sentence end? (I'm pretty confident the sentence start here should be
>
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||jl...@mail.com
--- Comment #56
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Justin L changed:
What|Removed |Added
See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Heiko Tietze changed:
What|Removed |Added
Keywords|needsUXEval |
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #54 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #53)
> > I hesitate to suggest this, but one option may be to change the process to
> > be as follows:
> > ...
> > > Third keypress: Mary Jones met [JOE]
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #53 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #51)
> Might be cleaner to explicitly do nothing unless there is a selection made.
That would feel like a regression for people who are used to the function.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #52 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #50)
> How the transliteration works is another question to me. I would keep the
> status quo which means:
...
> ("Mary Jones met [joe] Smith" - "joe" is
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #51 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #50)
>
> Basically I agree with the selection on/off consideration. But how about to
> select the whole sentence first when nothing has been selected ("text
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #50 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #45)
> To UX-Advise to move this forward...
Basically I agree with the selection on/off consideration. But how about to
select the whole sentence first when
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #49 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #47)
> No! In fact the change in comment 45 of explicitly handling selection
> state--would restore consistent and expected behavior to the UI
Sorry, I
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #48 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #47)
Should have acknowledged that one other alternative would be to require a
selection for any of the Case rotate tranliteration to apply. Force user to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #47 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Philip Rayment from comment #46)
>
> I don't know what ICU means, but if I understand you, this would make any
> use of cycling with Shift-F3 and no selection unusable. Suppose you
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #46 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #45)
I don't know what ICU means, but if I understand you, this would make any use
of cycling with Shift-F3 and no selection unusable. Suppose you want to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
Keywords||needsUXEval
CC|
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #44 from V Stuart Foote ---
*** Bug 123977 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.___
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #43 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Ljiljan from comment #41)
> So honouring selection is important. We don't know what user intends to do.
> Selection helps here, not guessing. That was the point of my satire... not
> to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #42 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #34)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #31)
>
> Let's discuss the details :-)
>
> 1. What should be done when a sentence start is selected, but not
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #41 from Ljiljan ---
Let's say I start with this sentence:
"This is my SENTENCE I wrote as an example to ILLUSTRATE the how the user might
use this function [here I intend to put a full stop after changing it to
sentence
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #40 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #36)
> (In reply to Ljiljan from comment #35)
>
> I had decided to fix this, and so I found all relevant code and saw the
> implementation; while thinking
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #39 from Philip Rayment ---
(In reply to Ljiljan from comment #35)
> You select the text and you expect to see changes in
> the selection.
In most cases, yes, but not always. For example, it makes little sense to
apply
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #38 from Kriton Kyrimis ---
The way I see it, things are pretty simple: If the user selects a piece of text
and asks for something to be done with it, he expects that something to be done
with only that piece of text. If the
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #37 from Ljiljan ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #36)
> (In reply to Ljiljan from comment #35)
>
> I had decided to fix this, and so I found all relevant code and saw the
> implementation; while thinking of
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #36 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to Ljiljan from comment #35)
I had decided to fix this, and so I found all relevant code and saw the
implementation; while thinking of possible reimplementation, I fount it useful
to ask
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #35 from Ljiljan ---
I just find it funny that we invest so much energy in something that just
cannot be user's logic. You select the text and you expect to see changes in
the selection.
My following reply should be
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #34 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #31)
Let's discuss the details :-)
1. What should be done when a sentence start is selected, but not to the
sentence end? (I'm pretty confident the sentence
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #33 from Peter Roelofsen ---
In reply to Mike Kaganski: thanknyou for posting some real insulting stuff. If
you tell people that they should not insultbother people, then don't insult
other people yourself. Your reply is so
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #32 from Ljiljan ---
The current "Sentence case" logic would make perfect sense in case you select
no single character and you expect to change cases of a complete sentence.
However, in the case when you invest the effort to
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #31 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #30)
+1
But the original issue as summarized in bug 119495 was clearly a duplicate of
this.
Absent SENTENCE_CASE's default expansion of selection, adding
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #30 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to Philip Rayment from comment #29)
+1
(In reply to Peter Roelofsen from comment #28)
> Mike Kaganski: I am not insulting anybody. I feel insulted by programmes who
> refuse to consider
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #29 from Philip Rayment ---
> It is correct as it was implemented, and behaves programmatically as expected.
You're probably right, but the issue is what "it" is. This bug as opened was
about how sentence case works. The
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #28 from Peter Roelofsen ---
Mike Kaganski: I am not insulting anybody. I feel insulted by programmes who
refuse to consider serious error reports by competent users. And add to the
insult by stating that tge cide is correct,
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #27 from Mike Kaganski ---
Please refrain from insulting others by declaring someone is "playing games"
and "tries to win", without even carefully reading what has been said (let
alone understand):
(In reply to V Stuart Foote
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #26 from V Stuart Foote ---
(In reply to Philip Rayment from comment #24)
> > So, while we may not like it--behavior could be considered correct.
>
> No, it is NOT correct. Repeatedly pressing F3 to get to the case you need
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #25 from Philip Rayment ---
In fact, I'll repeat some steps to reproduce that I provided on that other bug:
Type the sentence "john smith and joe blow wrote to fred jones.
Now, using Shift-F3 as many times you like and
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #24 from Philip Rayment ---
> So, while we may not like it--behavior could be considered correct.
No, it is NOT correct. Repeatedly pressing F3 to get to the case you need
*destroys* any capitalisation that already existed,
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
Philip Rayment changed:
What|Removed |Added
Severity|minor |normal
CC|
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
--- Comment #23 from Peter Roelofsen ---
+1 for @Mike Kaganski
Please note that most users aren't programmers. Their logic is different than
the logic of the programmers. So the question is: Whose logic is right? I'd say
that as the
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||jumbo4...@yahoo.fr
--- Comment
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
Version|3.5.2 release |Inherited From OOo
--- Comment
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
V Stuart Foote changed:
What|Removed |Added
Summary|Change case -> Sentence |Change case -> Sentence
66 matches
Mail list logo
