Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:30:21 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! I have a 100CT that I overclocked to 266MHz. It was unstable and when I used PCMCIA devices it would crash. I backed it back down to 233MHz and it has been running with no problems for over a year. Maybe a 110CT Mobo would go at 300MHz but I'd wouldn't try a 100CT ~~~ Tony Oresteen W1AJO Montverde, FL 34756 - Original Message - From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:48 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Hi all, I´m working with a second hand Libretto 100Ct for to squeeze the maximun performance. i think that a Libretto 100Ct can run at 300Mhz: -. Looking the Pentium M datasheet, i can see that, only Pentium 1 Mobile (0.25micron) can be run at 300Mhz, the Lib have one this. -. Looking the CY2278A, the clock synthesizer of Lib 100CT motherboard, can be generate 20, 25, 33.33, 40, 50, 60, 66.67 and ..75Mhz. We can choose the 75Mhz for generate the 300Mhz pattern. Anybody have any experience with this? Maybe work or not, but i´m trying!!! José Menéndez RD - Software Designer. Natural Tools Plaza de España 18, planta 5 - Oficina 5 - 28008 Madrid - SPAIN Phone: +34 91 542 7976 Fax: +34 91 542 7028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.naturalstudio.com
Re: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!]
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:24:36 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:52:39 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] I am not sure, but pin 68 (page 210 of the manual), shows DOCDET - which I interpret as Dock Detect. It should be a simple matter of monitoring what this pin does with and without the Libby connected to the docking station. The other issue Ray and others were concerned with was a special hardware chip inside the docking station that actually provided the proper USB signals. IIRC John M thought that chip in the EPR is just a line driver, i.e. a buffer to allow the USB port to deliver enough power (USB cables may be several m long, output impedance should be low enough to keep the signal robust to interference on the cable). It seems there are many such chips available; though I only found ads for bulk delivery of 10,000+ or so :-( John M also mentioned that one of the linux versions he tried was able to detect the USB controller - but he didn't specify if that was with or without EPR attached. It's all somewhere in the archives (last spring or so?). Philip
[LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:48 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Hi all, I´m working with a second hand Libretto 100Ct for to squeeze the maximun performance. i think that a Libretto 100Ct can run at 300Mhz: -. Looking the Pentium M datasheet, i can see that, only Pentium 1 Mobile (0.25micron) can be run at 300Mhz, the Lib have one this. -. Looking the CY2278A, the clock synthesizer of Lib 100CT motherboard, can be generate 20, 25, 33.33, 40, 50, 60, 66.67 and ..75Mhz. We can choose the 75Mhz for generate the 300Mhz pattern. Anybody have any experience with this? Maybe work or not, but i´m trying!!! José Menéndez RD - Software Designer. Natural Tools Plaza de España 18, planta 5 - Oficina 5 - 28008 Madrid - SPAIN Phone: +34 91 542 7976 Fax: +34 91 542 7028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.naturalstudio.com Attached files are not permitted on this list, attachment has been removed.
RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:50:34 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Jose, this has been done and well documented. See this site: http://www.fixup.net/tips/l100266.htm Also, if you are going to do this, here is something else you may consider: I don't know if anyone else saw this link from Vitaly, http://chiba3.dip.jp/notepc/ss1000.html But if you look at it you will see instructions for adding a USB port to the Libretto ff1100V computer. Looking very carefully at it and comparing the signals on the Port Replicator connector on the Lib L100 /L110 CT Notebooks, it would appear you could do the same thing to these. From the Libretto manual, page 211, Table C-2 Docking Interface connector pin assignments (140-pin)(3/3), pin 93 is USBDP, or USB Data positive; and pin 94 is USBDN, or USB Data Negative. By finding a suitable +5V and Gnd point, these are the 4 signals needed for the USB port. To make it look good, I think replacing the IR port with a USB connector would make sense. I just bought a USB to IR adapter from Tiger Direct (free after rebate) and tried it on my desktop with great success. Using this adapter, you don't even lose the IR port after converting the Libby's IR port to a USB port. Problem is, I don't have good enough tools to make the solder connections to try this on the bench to see if it works. Anyone have the ability to see if this would work? You will have to use Babelfish from AltaVista unless you understand the Japanese language. Regards, Dick Sullivan -Original Message- From: Jose Menendez Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:11 AM To: Libretto Subject: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:48 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Hi all, I´m working with a second hand Libretto 100Ct for to squeeze the maximun performance. i think that a Libretto 100Ct can run at 300Mhz: -. Looking the Pentium M datasheet, i can see that, only Pentium 1 Mobile (0.25micron) can be run at 300Mhz, the Lib have one this. -. Looking the CY2278A, the clock synthesizer of Lib 100CT motherboard, can be generate 20, 25, 33.33, 40, 50, 60, 66.67 and ...75Mhz. We can choose the 75Mhz for generate the 300Mhz pattern. Anybody have any experience with this? Maybe work or not, but i´m trying!!! José Menéndez RD - Software Designer. Natural Tools Plaza de España 18, planta 5 - Oficina 5 - 28008 Madrid - SPAIN Phone: +34 91 542 7976 Fax: +34 91 542 7028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.naturalstudio.com
RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?![VASCL:A14F6A6467E]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:59:05 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?![VASCL:A14F6A6467E] Hi, The 100CT at 266Mhz is easy, but i say about 300Mhz! Regards. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 14 de marzo de 2006 16:51 Para: Libretto Asunto: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?![VASCL:A14F6A6467E] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:50:34 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Jose, this has been done and well documented. See this site: http://www.fixup.net/tips/l100266.htm Also, if you are going to do this, here is something else you may consider: I don't know if anyone else saw this link from Vitaly, http://chiba3.dip.jp/notepc/ss1000.html But if you look at it you will see instructions for adding a USB port to the Libretto ff1100V computer. Looking very carefully at it and comparing the signals on the Port Replicator connector on the Lib L100 /L110 CT Notebooks, it would appear you could do the same thing to these. From the Libretto manual, page 211, Table C-2 Docking Interface connector pin assignments (140-pin)(3/3), pin 93 is USBDP, or USB Data positive; and pin 94 is USBDN, or USB Data Negative. By finding a suitable +5V and Gnd point, these are the 4 signals needed for the USB port. To make it look good, I think replacing the IR port with a USB connector would make sense. I just bought a USB to IR adapter from Tiger Direct (free after rebate) and tried it on my desktop with great success. Using this adapter, you don't even lose the IR port after converting the Libby's IR port to a USB port. Problem is, I don't have good enough tools to make the solder connections to try this on the bench to see if it works. Anyone have the ability to see if this would work? You will have to use Babelfish from AltaVista unless you understand the Japanese language. Regards, Dick Sullivan -Original Message- From: Jose Menendez Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:11 AM To: Libretto Subject: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:48 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Hi all, I´m working with a second hand Libretto 100Ct for to squeeze the maximun performance. i think that a Libretto 100Ct can run at 300Mhz: -. Looking the Pentium M datasheet, i can see that, only Pentium 1 Mobile (0.25micron) can be run at 300Mhz, the Lib have one this. -. Looking the CY2278A, the clock synthesizer of Lib 100CT motherboard, can be generate 20, 25, 33.33, 40, 50, 60, 66.67 and ...75Mhz. We can choose the 75Mhz for generate the 300Mhz pattern. Anybody have any experience with this? Maybe work or not, but i´m trying!!! José Menéndez RD - Software Designer. Natural Tools Plaza de España 18, planta 5 - Oficina 5 - 28008 Madrid - SPAIN Phone: +34 91 542 7976 Fax: +34 91 542 7028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.naturalstudio.com
RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:34:40 +0100 From: Anders Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! I have tried it on my 100ct and it worked for about 30 minutes. After that my 100ct became unstable and would not start up Windows. It might be possible though, a 110ct has been able to do it. I have instructions on how to do this overclock if you want it. It was made by Ramirez. I've been thinking of 75x3,5 = 262,5Mhz instead. That might work better, but I haven't tried it. /Anders From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Subject: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:10:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:09:48 +0100 From: Jose Menendez Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Hi all, I´m working with a second hand Libretto 100Ct for to squeeze the maximun performance. i think that a Libretto 100Ct can run at 300Mhz: -. Looking the Pentium M datasheet, i can see that, only Pentium 1 Mobile (0.25micron) can be run at 300Mhz, the Lib have one this. -. Looking the CY2278A, the clock synthesizer of Lib 100CT motherboard, can be generate 20, 25, 33.33, 40, 50, 60, 66.67 and ..75Mhz. We can choose the 75Mhz for generate the 300Mhz pattern. Anybody have any experience with this? Maybe work or not, but i´m trying!!! José Menéndez RD - Software Designer. Natural Tools Plaza de España 18, planta 5 - Oficina 5 - 28008 Madrid - SPAIN Phone: +34 91 542 7976 Fax: +34 91 542 7028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.naturalstudio.com Attached files are not permitted on this list, attachment has been removed.
USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:02:45 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:50:34 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Jose, this has been done and well documented. See this site: http://www.fixup.net/tips/l100266.htm Also, if you are going to do this, here is something else you may consider: I don't know if anyone else saw this link from Vitaly, http://chiba3.dip.jp/notepc/ss1000.html But if you look at it you will see instructions for adding a USB port to the Libretto ff1100V computer. Looking very carefully at it and comparing the signals on the Port Replicator connector on the Lib L100 /L110 CT Notebooks, it would appear you could do the same thing to these. From the Libretto manual, page 211, Table C-2 Docking Interface connector pin assignments (140-pin)(3/3), pin 93 is USBDP, or USB Data positive; and pin 94 is USBDN, or USB Data Negative. By finding a suitable +5V and Gnd point, these are the 4 signals needed for the USB port. This has been discussed before, by - a.o.- John M, Raybot and me. Problem is how to get the USB controller to work at all. It appears to be switched off if no EPR is attached. I guessed that perhaps some connectors on the port replicator connector might need to be connected, or one of those pins may need to be pulled up or down to signal the USB controller to initialize. Although I do not use my L110 that much nowadays (it's just a back-up machine now, I got a JVC 741 for on the road) I'd be very interested if only for the fun of trying to get USB to work. Philip
RE: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:52:39 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] I am not sure, but pin 68 (page 210 of the manual), shows DOCDET - which I interpret as Dock Detect. It should be a simple matter of monitoring what this pin does with and without the Libby connected to the docking station. The other issue Ray and others were concerned with was a special hardware chip inside the docking station that actually provided the proper USB signals. I could not determine if this was true or not from the docking station itself, and no one has been able to produce a schematic for either the Libretto or the docking station. The Chiba3... website listed below with its instructions indicates that ff1100V Libretto can have the USB added to it. Based on that, and the signals in the manual, I concluded it was possible the L100 may also be able to have a USB port on it (with the possible requirement of having the DOCDET signal forced to the correct level). It should be possible (with younger hands and eyes than I have) to solder wires to the small Port Replicator pins (as opposed to the docking station) and test this out before modifying the Libretto. It will either work or not, then we will know for sure. Dick -Original Message- From: Philip Nienhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:05 PM To: Libretto Subject: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:02:45 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USB [WAS:Re: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?!] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:50:34 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 100CT at 300Mhz?!?!?! Jose, this has been done and well documented. See this site: http://www.fixup.net/tips/l100266.htm Also, if you are going to do this, here is something else you may consider: I don't know if anyone else saw this link from Vitaly, http://chiba3.dip.jp/notepc/ss1000.html But if you look at it you will see instructions for adding a USB port to the Libretto ff1100V computer. Looking very carefully at it and comparing the signals on the Port Replicator connector on the Lib L100 /L110 CT Notebooks, it would appear you could do the same thing to these. From the Libretto manual, page 211, Table C-2 Docking Interface connector pin assignments (140-pin)(3/3), pin 93 is USBDP, or USB Data positive; and pin 94 is USBDN, or USB Data Negative. By finding a suitable +5V and Gnd point, these are the 4 signals needed for the USB port. This has been discussed before, by - a.o.- John M, Raybot and me. Problem is how to get the USB controller to work at all. It appears to be switched off if no EPR is attached. I guessed that perhaps some connectors on the port replicator connector might need to be connected, or one of those pins may need to be pulled up or down to signal the USB controller to initialize. Although I do not use my L110 that much nowadays (it's just a back-up machine now, I got a JVC 741 for on the road) I'd be very interested if only for the fun of trying to get USB to work. Philip
