Re: MIT-style license with a Code Integrity clause

2003-12-24 Thread Karsten M. Self
dropped from all major GNU/Linux distributions on licensing grounds, as well as OpenBSD. Possibly others. IANAL, TINLA, YADA. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Geek for hire: http

OT: Vacation messages to list posts

2003-12-24 Thread Karsten M. Self
-check their mail rules, and reconsider use of a vacation message at all. A delegated forward would likely be more useful, less annoying, and less a security issue. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand

Re: OFF-TOPIC - The SCO suit

2003-11-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
equivalent of war of attrition. That is the substance of my suggestion. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? You don't have to pretend to be interested in me you know, said Marvin at last, I know

Re: OFF-TOPIC - The SCO suit

2003-11-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
within scope of law -- the bulk of its actions have been on the PR and financing fronts. Legal actions have largely consisted of creating PR fodder and stalling real progress. Stop thinking like a lawyer, Larry. Think like someone who wants to _win_ this thing ;-) Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL

Re: That Notorious Suit (Slightly OT)

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 02:22:14AM -0500, Daniel Carrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The letters SCO do not stand for anything. Sure the do. Smoking Crater Operation. Curiously, the definition of Caldera. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com

Re: Microsoft's near-OSD-compliant shared source license

2003-07-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
for a vote on this license, I would argue very strongly that it does _not_ meet the OSD. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? The truth behind the H-1B IT indentured servant scam: http

Re: GPL compatibility of a simple license

2003-06-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
GPL, GNU LGPL, BSD, and MIT/X11 are all examples of GPL-compatible licenses. IANAL, TINLA, YADA. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? zIWETHEY: Provocative, super smart, and oh yeah, just a little sexy

Re: Updated license - please comment

2003-06-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
, if copyright terms allow proprietary integration, then unless mechanisms other than copyright are sought, use of the work is not regulable. IANAL, TINLA, YADA. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Reading

Re: Comparison of OSL

2003-06-23 Thread Karsten M. Self
this a useful way to approach a discussion. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? The golden rule of technical design: complexity is the enemy. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [OT] TINLA

2002-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? We freed Dmitry!Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org msg05718/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: We are looking for an open source license that...

2002-11-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
software. Peace. Notes: 1. See my essay On Software Piracy, Lies, BSA, Microsoft, Rocks, and Hard Penguins http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/piracy.html -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you

Re: Fwd: Re: RPL version 1.1

2002-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
-cgi?3 -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Übersoft: Standing on the necks of giants. http://www.ubersoft.net/ msg05397/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Simplified Artistic License [osd]

2002-10-14 Thread Karsten M. Self
of the major software licenses are well established, well understood, and would seem to be largely stable due to institutional pressures. While the licenses may not be ideal for all uses, they are good enough for many uses, and a reasonable compromise of interests. IANAL, TINLA, YADA. Peace. -- Karsten M

Re: Partial OpenSource products/licenses?

2002-10-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
developers) which I feel is highly underappreciated. Licenses get much of the spotlight (and deservedly), but ancillary agreements are being neglected. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Moderator, Free

Re: UnitedLinux and open source

2002-06-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
are highly similar, but non-identical, concepts. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Support the EFF, they support you: http://www.eff.org/ msg05030/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Changing the licensing terms for an application

2002-06-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Jun 15, 2002, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: on Thu, Jun 13, 2002, Hanxue Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I wish to know whether I can change the licensing term of an application from GNU GPL to BSD or vice versa. For example, the original progam is licensed using BSD

Re: EULAs

2002-06-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
now. http://users.ev1.net/~snork/pics/bloom/chars/snork_strip2.jpg http://users.ev1.net/~snork/pics/bloom/chars/snork.gif Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Support the EFF, they support you

Re: violation of GPLv2 - remedies?

2002-05-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 09, 2002, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: on Wed, May 08, 2002, Mahesh T Pai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... [Attribution lost] How drastically does the situation change if the publisher never bothered to officially register the copyright with the library

Re: violation of GPLv2 - remedies?

2002-05-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
under US law: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/411.html Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? A guide to GNU/Linux books: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/linux-books.html msg04937

Re: Discuss: The Open-Source Milestone Application Framework So

2002-04-28 Thread Karsten M. Self
that this is an implicit right to FSF Free Software. The OSD is silent on the issue, though debate has not been. I agree that this is a strategically, if not legally, poor move. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand

Re: Something between Public Domain and LGPL?

2002-03-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
permissions from another party to publish it. However, if you incorporate others' works in your own, you're bound by their terms. IANAL, TINLA, YADA. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Keep software free

Re: Netapp license approval retraction with apologies

2002-02-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
to independent evision, while at the same time creating a standard licenseing base from which to work. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net

Re: VENTURE CAPITAL

2001-08-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA!http

Re: GPLv2 'web-app loophole'

2001-08-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
to, and executed on, the client's host. In this case, code is distributed to the user's system. I'd argue GPL distribution obligations would triggered. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5

Re: X.Net, Inc. License

2001-08-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 08:58:30AM -0400, Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self writes: I'm assuming that markup isn't a legal part of the license -- and would strongly encourage submissions be made as plaintext, not HTML-tagged content. If you got a Word .doc

Re: X.Net, Inc. License

2001-08-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
-compatible. Why? Because of the no additional conditions requirement? -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http

Re: GPLv2 'web-app loophole'

2001-08-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
: Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope. IANAL. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt

Re: X.Net, Inc. License

2001-08-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
. Distribution of license 8. License must not be specific to a product 9. License must not contaminate other software. IANAL. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt

Re: approved licenses web page not being updated

2001-08-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
to the list -- or even a _lot_ slow -- as far as I'm concerned, good. Hear, hear! -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http

Re: best gpl/lgpl conversion clause?

2001-06-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
information separate from the floppy-disk contents themselves, but distribute the two files together. Why are you concerned about the overhead of license distribution? -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand

Miles Davis Tribute (was Re: so waht? Re: WG: MSFT and GNU questions)

2001-06-11 Thread Karsten M. Self
well understood. It's also tenacious -- code based on GPL used as the basis of other projects pretty much mandates use of the GPL. I think that if it is indeed true that the GPL tends to dominate, that the explanation is simple: Linux uses the GPL. Chicken, meet egg... -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL

Re: MSFT and GNU questions

2001-06-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:04:39PM +, David Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thursday June 07 2001 10:05 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: Among the questions raised was the perennial where do you turn for advice on the GPL. One bad thing that happened as a result of this skirmish

MSFT and GNU questions

2001-06-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
how do we manage our own prickley dispositions in dealing with those to whom free software concepts are novel, strange, and foreign. Thoughts? -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http

Re: IBM Public License

2001-05-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org PGP signature

Re: Urgent

2001-05-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
account details is going to come home one day to an empty nest-egg ... onebox should have closed the response account. 973 is apparently a New Jersey area code. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5

Re: (was: idle-priority: OWL R1)

2001-05-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org PGP signature

Re: idle-priority: OWL R1

2001-05-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
to be desired. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org PGP signature

Re: IBM Public License and Debian Linux..... Not compatible?

2001-05-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
preferred for mailing list activities. As is trimming unnecessary quotage. I believe James is mistaken. The IBM PSL is used by the Jikes Java compiler, which is packaged under Debian as free, as far as I can tell. The proper place to discuss this is debian-devel or debian-legal. -- Karsten M

Re: Now I'll do it myself: OWL R1

2001-04-28 Thread Karsten M. Self
add one for mirabilos. On request source code of any work covered by this License must be made available if exists. If you are inspired by our work you are forbidden to claim intellectual property on work done afterwards. However you still ought to credit us. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Is this better for tomsrtbt?

2001-04-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
have vi. ;-) I'm going to add that to my fortune file as one of the better summations of why license proliferation is a Bad Thing®. Cogent. -Tom IANAL, this is not legal advice. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you

Re: OpenLDAP license

2001-04-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
d about three times now. Ryan *has* uncovered an interesting, and potentially significant, issue regarding the OSD, Frank Hecker's comments in this thread explore further. I'd suggest dropping this particular branch of the thread, however. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmse

Re: OpenLDAP license

2001-04-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
r the GNU GPL is OSD compliant, and all downstream releases will be complaint. E.g.: releasing software with sources under the MIT license is OSD compliant, however downstream releases may or may not be compliant (the MIT license doesn't compell source availability, however it *permits* this

Re: OpenLDAP license

2001-04-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
D #2 requires that the license *allow* source distribution. It doesn't *mandate* source distribution. Ryan -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourcefo

Re: APSL 1.2

2001-04-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on opensource.org as OSI certified. It's the obverse that was being remarked on by David Johnson. There are currently no OSI certified licenses which aren't also FSF Free Software. There may be FSF Free Software licenses which aren't OSI certified -- certification is a process. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL

Re: Subscription/Service Fees - OSD Intent

2001-03-31 Thread Karsten M. Self
back with a "thanks for bringing this to our attention, we'll fix it". Not even an attempt at a fight. They pick theirs, I'm sure, and this certainly wasn't it. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you under

Re: Subscription/Service Fees

2001-03-27 Thread Karsten M. Self
stribute it as normal closed source shareware, and only offer an Open Source license upon registration... Perhaps the issue is whether distributing software to a 3rd party means you have also transferred the right to use that software also. #7. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http:/

Re: rights and freedoms

1999-10-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
?2291 -- Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? SAS for Linux: http://www.netcom.com/~kmself/SAS/SAS4Linux.html Mailing List: body "subscribe sas-linux" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License - back on track

1999-10-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
and news:misc.legal.computing, as well as the CNI Copyright list (http://www.cni.org/Hforums/cni-copyright/) for copyright-specific discussions. There is some interest in the legal lists in free software | open source issues. -- Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) What part of "Gestalt&q