Re: Zeratec Public License

1999-07-13 Thread John Cowan
sed-source software creators have to negotiate a separate patent license. So this license is not parallel to the GPL or any existing *copyright* license; it's another thing altogether. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kre

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread John Cowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: For example, I'd submit that _reference_ is derivation where software is concerned. If you call into my library from your program, it's a derived work. Then in your view, only GPL-compatible programs can be run under Linux? -- John Cowan

Re: gpl backlash?

1999-07-27 Thread John Cowan
viral properties do not spread from the kernel to user-mode code, but I don't see how that can be made consistent with the GPL's claim that "changing it [the GPL] is not allowed." -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: keeping patentable algorithm free

1999-07-30 Thread John Cowan
learned in the art. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! / Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau / Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge / Politzer

Re: Essay RFC delayed.

1999-08-17 Thread John Cowan
communications costs, eventually you reach a point where adding resources is bad not just relatively but absolutely. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! / Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, Denn er genoss vom Honig

Re: RFC soon on essay Does Free Software Production in a Bazaarobey the Law of Diminishing Returns?

1999-08-17 Thread John Cowan
, but the fact is that it can only do so much with the available minds. (The fact that other minds aren't available is a separate problem). -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! / Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau

Re: RFC soon on essay Does Free Software Production in a Bazaarobey the Law of Diminishing Returns?

1999-08-17 Thread John Cowan
* (not the highest possible quality, but better than Windows, anyway). Otherwise, any old hack would have done the job. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! / Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, Denn er genoss vom

Re: Essay RFC delayed.

1999-08-24 Thread John Cowan
to strike: a last resort that must be preserved, so that most of the time more civil behavior is possible. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Essay RFC delayed.

1999-08-27 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond scripsit: Hackers *are* ?NT?. That's my point. I don't know what else you thought I meant by XNTX. The Keirsey Temperament site (www.keirsey.com) says that ?NT? are about 5% of the general population, but about 15% of those who have take the Keirsey test *online*. -- John

Re: Essay RFC delayed.

1999-08-27 Thread John Cowan
the energy to convince a CEO or two. See the linux-advocacy HOWTO. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Redistribution vs user

1999-09-02 Thread John Cowan
this exemption. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: RFC: Artistic license for Frontier scripting (repost)

1999-09-24 Thread John Cowan
re derived from your package? Or something else? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Simple Public License, third draft

1999-09-30 Thread John Cowan
Justin Wells scripsit: Are you happier with this draft? I removed the langage relating to purpose. I've sent a copy of it to a lawyer or review now, and hope to be able to start using it, and promoting its use, soon. Looks good to me. -- John Cowan

Re: GNU License for Hardware

1999-10-14 Thread John Cowan
rence between your published philosophy and your actions. Defending someone's right to do X is not the same as urging them to do X, nor is it inconsistent with urging them not to. I will defend your right to create a fork of Emacs called "eat-my-shorts", but I will als

Re: rights and freedoms

1999-10-14 Thread John Cowan
prevented from being paid for creating works that contain GPLed components. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: GNU License for Hardware

1999-10-18 Thread John Cowan
pressure can have amazing practical results. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Accusations, accusations, always accusations

1999-10-20 Thread John Cowan
Alex Nicolaou scripsit: I think you accidentally edited out the context that makes this more clear. The "you" in this sentence is not RMS or a plural you referring to developers of the GNU system; it is specifically the person I was responding to (John Cowan) who wrote "

Re: Does a GPL API infect its apps?

1999-10-20 Thread John Cowan
restrictions on apps written using our API. Just want to let developers know what they're getting into. Then the LGPL makes sense. No version of your library can ever become unfree, but unfree apps can be written using it. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: Does a GPL API infect its apps?

1999-10-21 Thread John Cowan
Arandir scripsit: You could do something similar by announcing that programs linking to your library are not considered to be derivitive of the library, but all other derivitives are subject to all the GPL clauses. That's exactly what the LGPL is *for*. -- John Cowan

Re: Does a GPL API infect its apps?

1999-10-21 Thread John Cowan
permissions on the sections which are identifiable works as described above. This is already possible, since a distribution of the PART is not a distribution of the WHOLE. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Accusations, accusations, always accusations

1999-10-21 Thread John Cowan
://www.gnu.org/software/software.html disclaims completeness. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Does a GPL API infect its apps?

1999-10-21 Thread John Cowan
. But this is easily cured by distributing both A+B and B. This is "mere aggregation" and not covered by the GPL. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: CORBA and the GPL (was Re: Can Java code EVER be GPLd, at all?)

1999-11-22 Thread John Cowan
process unless they are linked together? Do you mean "inside the same process*or*"? -- John Cowan http://www.reutershealth.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! / Schliess eurer Aug vor heiliger Schau Den er genoss vom Honig-Tau / Und trank die

Re: 3dfx license

1999-11-22 Thread John Cowan
would construe "identifiable portion of the derivative work that is derived from the licensed software" as meaning any derived work whatever. Some nailing-down clauses would be useful. -- John Cowan http://www.reutershealth.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Schlingt dreifach einen

Re: The term Open Source in your JX Application Framework license

1999-12-09 Thread John Cowan
ereas if I were developing it for my personal use, I could do so. That makes JX Application Framework not Open Source, because of clause 6 of the OSD. If you want to have the same rules as Qt's, I suggest you consider using the QPL itself. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Co

Re: Open Information

2000-01-13 Thread John Cowan
einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Open Information

2000-01-13 Thread John Cowan
to rewrite the documentation from scratch. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread John Cowan
; the "old BSD" license with the advertising requirement is not. In general, a license is compatible with the GPL if it imposes the same, or fewer, restrictions than the GPL. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heil

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-15 Thread John Cowan
"Matthew C. Weigel" wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: The "new BSD" and the equivalent MIT license are compatible with the GPL; the "old BSD" license with the advertising requirement is not. In general, a license is compatible with the GPL if i

Re: BSD / GPL compatibility

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
ary one. Commercial X servers are closed-source, but incorporate vast amounts of code under the MIT license. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, ||

Re: License Approval Process

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
and the "use of library" type. LGPL works like GPL for the former, and like MIT for the latter. Trying to distinguish between these in an architecture-neutral way is what makes the LGPL so lengthy. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer A

Re: BSD / GPL compatibility - Derived vs. Fair Use

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: many flavors of non-copyleft

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
it. The requirement about copyright notice refers to now-obsolete U.S. copyright laws that insisted that each separate document have its own copyright notice. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealt

Re: BSD / GPL compatibility

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
vative works under one or another license, subject to the conditions of that license. Which is not incompatible with redistribution nor usage, all of those products (presumably) include the MIT licence, and thus are redistributing the MIT code in used form, not relicensing it. Correct. -- Schlingt d

Re: BSD / GPL compatibility - Infection by Libraries

2000-02-16 Thread John Cowan
bad assumption. Commercial vs. non-commercial is now orthogonal to open-source vs. closed-source. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http:/

Re: BSD / GPL compatibility

2000-02-17 Thread John Cowan
David Johnson wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, John Cowan wrote: You must include the *text* of the license, but the derived work as a whole may be licensed under any license, including a proprietary one. Commercial X servers are closed-source, but incorporate vast amounts of code under

Re: Looking to learn more about EXCEPTIONS -- gnu style

2000-03-08 Thread John Cowan
vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Novell license revision

2000-03-08 Thread John Cowan
source of such a program is a mere collection, not a derivative work as such, so the NCL does not automatically extend to it. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom

How To Break The GPL

2000-03-03 Thread John Cowan
so, where is it? -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-03 Thread John Cowan
systems, which routinely have things like "make" and "ld" available, her Evil Plan becomes more and more technically feasible. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.co

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-03 Thread John Cowan
of several vendors. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-03 Thread John Cowan
inen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-04 Thread John Cowan
the GPL, but by a special exception, applications running under the kernel are not treated as derivatives of the kernel. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: How To Break The GPL

2000-03-05 Thread John Cowan
system which derives from both Alice's (under license from Alice) and Trent's (under the GPL). As long as he does not distribute the work, Trent has no case. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: How To Break The GPL - Copyright versus Contract

2000-03-10 Thread John Cowan
you for an *exclusive* transfer of your copyright to the FSF, but that has nothing to do with the GNU GPL and everything to do with administrative convenience. The Linux kernel, e.g., is copyright Linus Torvalds and others. The FSF has no copyright interest in it. -- Schlingt dreifach ei

Re: How To Break The GPL - Copyright versus Contract

2000-03-10 Thread John Cowan
ed in some licenses recently, attempting to override state law to the effect that contracts of adhesion are interpreted strictly against the drafting party -- in a contract of adhesion! Strikes me as void because against public policy. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL

Re: Is it possible to sue infringers under the GPL?

2000-03-10 Thread John Cowan
fach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Is it possible to sue infringers under the GPL?

2000-03-10 Thread John Cowan
can treat that as a constructive license, since a non-exclusive copyright license need not be in writing. Of course, adding the patcher's name to the contributors list is a matter of civility, not law. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst eu

Re: Violation

2000-03-24 Thread John Cowan
not. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Violation

2000-03-25 Thread John Cowan
ther we have *agreed* to anything or not, as long as we refrain from certain forbidden actions. (My reference, in yesterday's post, to "doing certain actions" was of course nonsense: the GPL doesn't require us to take any action in particular, nor could it, unless we actually exercise our rig

Re: Violation

2000-03-25 Thread John Cowan
pyrightable works regardless of whether a license is used to distribute the work). I suppose you mean fair use. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Limits of Licenses

2000-03-28 Thread John Cowan
LA-style shrink-wrap contracts, opening up the way to other kinds of restrictions and other kinds of non-copyright damages. Is that a fair summary? -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.c

Re: Limits of Licenses

2000-03-28 Thread John Cowan
n the past for mentioning requirements to eat moose @%#$ in this connection, so I won't mention it. I'm wondering why the law treats books and software differently. Historical precedent, plus plenty of clout on the part of software publishers. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! ||

Re: The position RMS takes...

2000-03-28 Thread John Cowan
o infringe copyright, particularly if the license can be seen in isolation from the act of distribution of a copy. Why can't permission to distribute be conditional? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin

Re: Licenses versus contracts

2000-03-29 Thread John Cowan
on of letting him see the movie. He has the obligation of paying for the ticket. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org

Re: Two license questions

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
words "All Rights Reserved", whether those rights were then licensed to anyone or not. This is no longer true anywhere (I think) but publishers insert it out of habit. It has no effect on your license. Disclaimer: IANAL. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAI

Re: Wired Article on the GPL - Signed Licenses?

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: loophole in the GPL?

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
the tail a leg doesn't make it one." --Abraham Lincoln -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
conditions. The actions are copying, distributing, and making derivative works. You neither accept nor reject the GPL; it grants you permissions whether you want them or not. If the copyright owner revokes the permissions, you are probably out of luck. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-03-30 Thread John Cowan
like, thus: "Here, use my carno, I lied. You can't." The previous license will not help you now. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau,

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-03-31 Thread John Cowan
lingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Dynamic and Static Linking

2000-04-03 Thread John Cowan
e, which I think is substantial), this one won't fly. Header files almost certainly don't have the necessary originality to be themselves copyrightable: there is a form/content merger. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau

Re: Dynamic and Static Linking

2000-04-04 Thread John Cowan
t the means by which this purpose is achieved. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.

Re: Dynamic and Static Linking

2000-04-04 Thread John Cowan
David Johnson wrote: The point is, either I take the license at its face value, or I throw it out *completely*. What, and put all our local lawyers (and law students) out of business? Shame. :-) -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug

Re: Dynamic and Static Linking

2000-04-04 Thread John Cowan
Martin Konold wrote: Would you claim the very same for some Microsoft owned ActiveX component? The issue is entirely different, involving civil disobedience, not moral obligation. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger

Re: Wired Article on the GPL

2000-04-04 Thread John Cowan
nd the rule that you can transfer them if and only if you transfer the original with them.) -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://ww

Re: Concurrent Licenses?

2000-04-11 Thread John Cowan
do not impose any restrictions on the makers of derivative works, and so lack the essential copyleft principle. They have been called "copycenter" licenses: i.e., take the code to the copy center and make as many copies (or derivative works) as you want. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! |

Re: Concurrent Licenses?

2000-04-11 Thread John Cowan
from A anyway for A's original content, because everybody has such a license. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Apache v. GPL

2000-04-11 Thread John Cowan
erent licenses. (ii). -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Apache v. GPL

2000-04-11 Thread John Cowan
under license X and no other" is a promise to one's self alone. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die

Re: Concurrent Licenses?

2000-04-12 Thread John Cowan
also have rights against A? If I write a novel, and you make it into a film under license from me, I can't make copies of the film without a cross-license from you, no? If the film;s copyright is infringed, only you can sue, no? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: The word that is Proprietary

2000-04-20 Thread John Cowan
David Johnson scripsit: It is never a good idea to twist the English language to fit your political or social goals. Until about 1810, "democracy" meant essentially "mob rule". Then the word got "twisted" to fit a political goal. -- John Cowan

Re: Simple Public License, v0.20

2000-04-25 Thread John Cowan
before, but this seems to say that a patch allowing the software to run on Windows or VMS is impermissible, since the patch makes the software "depend" on a non-free operating system. This is clearly discrimination against a class of users and as such forbidden by the OSD. --

Re: CSuite

2000-05-10 Thread John Cowan
. I guess the difference is that you can *use* GPL'ed software all you want. It's only when you try to incorporate it into your own code that you must, as it were, pay. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reuters

Re: Open Source Motif

2000-05-15 Thread John Cowan
application. Most importantly, it activates the GPL exception clause (3c para 2), allowing GPLed programs to use Motif for the first time. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.co

Licensing concerns with Open Motif

2000-05-15 Thread John Cowan
and BSD distributions. Thank you. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Open Source Motif

2000-05-16 Thread John Cowan
dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Open Source Motif

2000-05-16 Thread John Cowan
for users? It certainly limits the ability of Motif-using commercial software to be ported to free OSes, which I take it is the purpose of the OML. Free software developers have plenty of widget libraries already. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst

Re: License for JavaScript applications

2000-05-19 Thread John Cowan
it is simply allowed provided source is distributed also. So there is no problem with saying that in your case the binary and the source are the same thing. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.co

Re: The LaTeX Project Public License

2000-05-22 Thread John Cowan
that is part of The Program). You can bypass this language by making, and documenting, a trivial hack to the file you wish to copy, I suppose. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er

RMS on Plan 9 license, with my comments

2000-07-22 Thread John Cowan
s a free software license (if the other problems were corrected), it is unfortunate. Agreed. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee

Re: RMS on Plan 9 license, with my comments

2000-07-24 Thread John Cowan
copyright owner grants you that right. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vo

Re: How About The Apache License?

2000-07-24 Thread John Cowan
t dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: RMS on Plan 9 license, with my comments

2000-07-24 Thread John Cowan
filesystem and tools. You can boot the OS, but you can't see any text on the screen -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: prohibiting use that would result in death or personal injury

2000-07-24 Thread John Cowan
which just advises you to do something). In that case, consumer products liability law cuts in, and that is heavily weighted toward the injured consumer. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.c

Re: Design Science License

2000-07-24 Thread John Cowan
. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: RMS on Plan 9 license, with my comments

2000-07-26 Thread John Cowan
lingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.-- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)

Re: Interpreters

2000-08-04 Thread John Cowan
. That said, most such interpreters are licensed under the GPL, such as Perl. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und

Re: Compulsory checkin clauses.

2000-08-07 Thread John Cowan
nary, which they cannot do under the GPL. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit"

RE: Public Domain and liability

2000-08-07 Thread John Cowan
program (though not explicitly dedicated to the public domain within the code itself). -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux

Re: The different between GPL and non-license

2000-08-10 Thread John Cowan
of abandonment is still possible. See http://www.cni.org/Hforums/cni-copyright/1994-01/0204.html , by Mary Brandt Jensen (professor at the U. of S. Dak. School of Law). -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http

Abandonment

2000-08-10 Thread John Cowan
eory looks plausible, and may save you. What do you think? -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vo

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-08-20 Thread John Cowan
you export the software, even if they would not otherwise apply as a matter of law. The Lucida fonts bundled with Plan 9 are definitely not free, but nothing compels you to use or redistribute them (they cannot be modified or redistributed except as part of Plan 9). --

RMS on OpenMotif

2000-08-20 Thread John Cowan
www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ RMS commentary: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motif.html OpenMotif license FAQ: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/faq.html -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-08-22 Thread John Cowan
P suit can be about anything whatever. If somebody abuses your GPLed software, and you sue, and the perpetrator turns out to be a Plan 9 contribute, *pip* goes your right to modify or distribute Plan 9. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[O]n the whole I'd r

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-08-23 Thread John Cowan
being able to demand your private changes is Evil and Rude also. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[O]n the whole I'd rather make love than shoot guns [...]" --Eric Raymond

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-08-23 Thread John Cowan
can't", or "this license is automatically construed in our favor"). The DFSG are of course substantially identical to the OSD -- which I'll mention in some forlorn hope of wrestling us back on-topic. Pending a complaint from the list owners, I think we *are* on to

Re: OpenSales -- DRAFT developers agreement

2000-08-31 Thread John Cowan
://www.opensales.org/html/devagree.shtml Yeeargh! You want me to assign all rights to you forever for ZERO compensation? It's not too often one has to sign a contract in order to make a donation. Copyright remains with you. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] "

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-09-03 Thread John Cowan
r download at the special price, for him only, of 0.00 zlotniks -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[O]n the whole I'd rather make love than shoot guns [...]" --Eric Raymond

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