[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-23 Thread David Pollak
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:50 PM, efleming969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most questions in the group are technical and I apologize if this is not appropriate, but I I'm curious about how members are justifying their use of Scala+Lift vs. a traditional Java architecture. I understand if you are

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-23 Thread Warren Henning
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pollak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The folks at Twitter love Scala and say so publicly. Off-topic: are you at liberty to discuss the extent of Scala usage at Twitter? What, if anything, can you tell us? Did they replace Rails with Scala/Lift?! :D Warren

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-23 Thread David Pollak
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Warren Henning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pollak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The folks at Twitter love Scala and say so publicly. Off-topic: are you at liberty to discuss the extent of Scala usage at Twitter? What, if

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Viktor Klang
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:50 AM, efleming969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most questions in the group are technical and I apologize if this is not appropriate, but I I'm curious about how members are justifying their use of Scala+Lift vs. a traditional Java architecture. I understand if you are

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Marius
You guys both have very valid points. Lift is still stabilizing API's for a month or two (AFAIK) till 1.0 which is to be a pre-alpha or maybe alpha release? (this needs TBD) I can imagine that from adoption part there is still a lot of reluctance especially in Java space because: 1. People

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Warren Henning
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:50 PM, efleming969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but it seems high risk for my client to have an application built with newer and practically unknown technologies like these. I'm kind of a Lift outsider but this isn't all that Lift-specific in my view, it's a more general

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread efleming969
Wow, thanks for the feedback. I should have been more clear as to what I meant by High Risk. I'm not concerned so much with Lift's technical merit, but rather the risk of personnel. If I get hit by the proverbial bus then my client/ employer will have a difficult time completing/maintaining

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Viktor Klang
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:30 PM, efleming969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, thanks for the feedback. I should have been more clear as to what I meant by High Risk. I'm not concerned so much with Lift's technical merit, but rather the risk of personnel. If I get hit by the proverbial bus

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Perrett
+1 Viktor. In troubled economic times such as these, its in the business interest to run as efficiently as possible - in short, more productive programmers... what you said is bang on. Cheers, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Josh Suereth
I'd also like to say you should pick a technology that meets your goals. Lift/Grails/Django/Rails/Seam/JSF/Spring/Struts (etc..) have their own quirks and if you try to deviate too far from the paradigm, you'll run into them quickly. For me, (so far) Lift is really amazing at doing quick ajaxy

[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Marius
+1 Let's not forget that Scala is growing more and more may Java people are looking for alternative maybe because they are bored of anonymous classes, dubious oversold design patterns, stereotypes and coding cliches. Of course a language purely by its existence do not solve these problems BUT