[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread marius d.
My 2 cents if I may ... Although I love this list and this is the official Lift list and support I think it is important to also have other wiki's, forums etc. out there. Personally I don't see this as a community split. More and more people are becoming pretty knowledgeable with Lift Scala

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
Once again, I don't see how you can discuss it until you know that David's fine with it. Personally I haven't read any concrete benefit (I don't know what take the load off or get more sites out there mean practically) that isn't available now between the list an the wiki---certainly not to

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Artem
I really don't like Google Groups because it's a mess. Posts on here are hard to read and unorganized. I'm typing this post right now and I don't have any options for formatting. I think we should have a forum for Lift to get more people interested. When I first saw this group here on google,

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread marius d.
What? ... Is there on ONE forum about Java, Scala, Spring, Rail etc? ... did all Java forums needed James Gosling approval ? .. Come on .. So yes people can talk about it make they own wikis,forums,blogs ... internet is free you know. I have tons of respect for David and this community and I

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Artem
I agree with marius. On Aug 30, 11:01 am, marius d. marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote: What? ... Is there on ONE forum about Java, Scala, Spring, Rail etc? ... did all Java forums needed James Gosling approval ? .. Come on .. So yes people can talk about it make they own wikis,forums,blogs ...

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread David Pollak
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Artem art...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I stumbled on Lift a couple weeks ago and have been messing around with it a lot! I am a Ruby on Rails programmer and it seems like Ruby is doing a fine job serving the web programmers community. Recently, I read an

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread jack
I agree. I can't imagine starting something like this without first approaching David. Having said that, and pehaps contradictorily, I welcome any initiatives that will further Lift/Scala. On Aug 30, 9:20 am, Naftoli Gugenheim naftoli...@gmail.com wrote: Once again, I don't see how you can

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Charles F. Munat
Just my two cents, but I think establishing a separate forum at this point is a mite premature. What problem, exactly, is it that we're trying to solve? Chas. Naftoli Gugenheim wrote: Once again, I don't see how you can discuss it until you know that David's fine with it. Personally I

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Charles F. Munat
I agree that it's kind of silly to talk about DPP's approval. This isn't source code related. Anyone can establish any forum he or she wants to, and if someone wants a separate Lift forum . . . The question, then, in my mind is whether adding a forum adds some needed capability (or

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Charles F. Munat
More than 1300 people? Really? Wow. Well, then maybe a second forum isn't premature. Man, I had no idea. When did that happen? Chas. David Pollak wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Artem art...@gmail.com mailto:art...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I stumbled on Lift a

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Artem
The problem is that this Google Group is not user friendly and not organized. I think it will be better to have a user friendly forum where everything is organized according to its category and easily accessible. This group is hard to find and hard to search. On Aug 30, 3:00 pm, Charles F.

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Jeppe Nejsum Madsen
Artem art...@gmail.com writes: The problem is that this Google Group is not user friendly and not organized. I think it will be better to have a user friendly forum where everything is organized according to its category and easily accessible. Probably depends on your definition of user

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread marius d.
Personally I like mailing lists .. I find it easier for me to try to help people then a traditional forum. For someone who wants to lear Lit perhaps a more traditional forum is more helpful? ... don't really know .. I guess it depends on the person. Br's, Marius On Aug 30, 10:10 pm, Artem

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Charles F. Munat
So is that an instead of argument? Or an in addition to? Chas. Artem wrote: The problem is that this Google Group is not user friendly and not organized. I think it will be better to have a user friendly forum where everything is organized according to its category and easily accessible.

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
- Charles F. Munatc...@munat.com wrote: So is that an instead of argument? Or an in addition to? Chas. Artem wrote: The problem is that this Google Group is not user friendly and not organized. I think it will be better to have a user friendly forum

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Timothy Perrett
We recently went through such a debate at work trying to decide between web forum vs mailing list and the end result for us at least was it depends. A lot of this is all highly subjective, there is no right or wrong - both sides need to remember that what works for them might not work for

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
Apparently there is a Google Group for Google Groups: the Google Groups Help Forum http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-Guidehttp://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-GuideIt seems many people have noticed the search bug. Maybe if a lot of people post over there complaining it will

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Artem
People have different preferences so you can decide to stay on Google Groups or help start the forum. If you want to help out, the forum URL is www.liftforum.com. If you have other questions about the forum, give me a shout at art...@gmail.com. Thanks. On Aug 30, 6:03 pm, Timothy Perrett

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Margaret
- mawei...@gmail.com 13585201588 http://maweis.com On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Artemart...@gmail.com wrote: People have different preferences so you can decide to stay on Google Groups or help start the forum.  If you want to help

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-30 Thread Charles F. Munat
I would split out JPA and Mapper. Chas. Artem wrote: People have different preferences so you can decide to stay on Google Groups or help start the forum. If you want to help out, the forum URL is www.liftforum.com. If you have other questions about the forum, give me a shout at

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-29 Thread TylerWeir
I'm not really sure how splintering the community is going to help. I feel the google group has been fine. On Aug 29, 6:59 pm, Artem art...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I stumbled on Lift a couple weeks ago and have been messing around with it a lot!  I am a Ruby on Rails programmer and it seems

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-29 Thread Timothy Perrett
Agreed (and +1) - Personally I actually prefer mailing lists full stop because it involves no web site trawling to get to the topics one is after... Cheers, Tim On 30/08/2009 01:20, TylerWeir tyler.w...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not really sure how splintering the community is going to help. I

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-29 Thread Xavi Ramirez
I applaud Artem's initiative! The mailing list has undoubtedly been an extremely helpful resource. That said, a mailing lists in general have several short comings: - Hard to search through - Many duplicate questions - No stickies - No syntax highlighting and few formatting options - Little to

[Lift] Re: Question about Lift/Scala Lift Discussion Board

2009-08-29 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim
The lift community is not huge. It's David Pollak's brainchild, and I don't see how you can discuss creating a forum (after the fact) without his okaying it. How can you compare it to an IRC? A forum fills much of the same purpose as the list, much more than IRC. Some of the advantages