Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-06 Thread Phil Holmes
On 06/11/2021 14:06, Kevin Cole wrote: I click Learning Manual. Still good. https remains. I am now at https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/index#top I click the search bar at the bottom of the green sidebar table of contents... And get a pop-up in red text: "This form is not

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-06 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 06.11.2021 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Cole : > > I click Learning Manual. Still good. https remains. I am now at > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/learning/index#top > > I click the search bar at the bottom of the green sidebar table of > contents... And get a pop-up in red

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-06 Thread Kevin Cole
I' m using Brave. Version 1.31.88 Chromium: 95.0.4638.69 (Official Build) (64-bit) I enter https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/ and am redirected to https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/web/index.html So far, so good. https: redirects to https: I click Manuals and again, am taken to

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread Paul Hodges
 So if any webpage uses SSL the internet would suddenly require noticably more power. This week I've seen a survey reporting that there are currently about 200,000,000 active websites, and that 100,000,000 are https.  It's reached 50%, and will continue growing. Paul

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Petzel writes: > What browser are you using? Rejecting a page without SSL is somewhat > stupid. For many webpages the only benefit of SSL is that you have a > certificate that the content is correct. While certainly it would be > possible to do some man-in-the-middle attack tricking you

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread Valentin Petzel
What browser are you using? Rejecting a page without SSL is somewhat stupid. For many webpages the only benefit of SSL is that you have a certificate that the content is correct. While certainly it would be possible to do some man-in-the-middle attack tricking you into having Lilypond into

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
I'm not sure about the current state, but Azure and AWS didn't use to block IPs from Iran. We had the same problem when Gitlab migrated from Azure to GCP. Note that non of them can do business with us, but serving a hosted website to us is not doing business. GCP seems to be the only one doing

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread Kevin Barry
> Thank for the notice, and sorry for the mess. I didn't realize GCP > doesn't serve to Iran. Do the other large US providers (Azure, AWS) > serve to Iran, or are they also blocked? I believe they will also be blocked. There is a list of (six I think) countries that businesses based in the US are

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 8:07 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > "Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > > > Of course I do. What I wanted to make sure was that the maintainers and the > > community know this, and are OK with that. LilyPond is a GNU project after > > all, and I don't think this is a GNU policy at

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-03 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
Thanks for the clarification. I personally think this is something we might want to consider if we have a major update or migration on the website in the future. Thanks, Omid Momenzadeh On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:37 PM David Kastrup wrote: > "Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > > > Of course I do.

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Hans Aikema
> On 2 Nov 2021, at 21:08, Kevin Cole wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:55 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > >> Refering to the search box that IS already using https when you opted to >> browse the website using https? >> I consider it perfectly fine that the website offers an http search option

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:55 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > Refering to the search box that IS already using https when you opted to > browse the website using https? > I consider it perfectly fine that the website offers an http search option > when browsing the site with http, considering that it

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Hans Aikema
> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:48, Kevin Cole wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:33 PM Hans Aikema wrote: >> >> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >> >> On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, >> ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 3:33 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > > On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the interaction with it is of

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Ah! Cool. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:32 PM Hans Aikema wrote: > > > > On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Hans Aikema
> On 2 Nov 2021, at 20:27, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, > ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on > the web site and the interaction with it is of a sensitive nature, but > still... > > Ken

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
On a side note, I was wondering why the Lilypond web site not secure, ie: https rather than http...not that it matters that the content on the web site and the interaction with it is of a sensitive nature, but still... Ken Wolcott On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 12:07 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > "Omid

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Omid Mo'menzadeh" writes: > Of course I do. What I wanted to make sure was that the maintainers and the > community know this, and are OK with that. LilyPond is a GNU project after > all, and I don't think this is a GNU policy at all, since no other GNU > project that I know of does this. Web

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
CLAVERIE wrote: > Omid, > > You should consider using a VPN, I think. > > Good luck > > Rémy > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 02/11/21 16:14 > > De : "Omid Mo'menzadeh" > > A : "Phil Holmes" > > Co

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Remy CLAVERIE
Omid, You should consider using a VPN, I think. Good luck Rémy         > Message du 02/11/21 16:14 > De : "Omid Mo'menzadeh" > A : "Phil Holmes" > Copie à : "lilypond-user" > Objet : Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
Well, that's good news, since it would make fixing the problem a lot easier. Here is my output from "ping lilypond.org", which definitely is trying to get something from Google: PING lilypond.org (35.206.114.173) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 173.114.206.35.bc.googleusercontent.com

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
Yes. This is Google blocking the IP, not a firewall on the way. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:00 PM Jun Tamura wrote: > > > 2021/11/02 22:59、Jun Tamura のメール: > > > > 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes のメール: > > On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Jun Tamura
> 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes のメール: > > On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh > > wrote: >> Hello all. >> I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot >> here, and see

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Jun Tamura
> 2021/11/02 22:59、Jun Tamura のメール: > > > >> 2021/11/02 22:40、Phil Holmes > >のメール: >> >> On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh >> > wrote: >>> Hello all. >>> I'm not sure

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Phil Holmes
On 02/11/2021 12:53, Kevin Cole wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: Hello all. I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot here, and see where I should report this. The problem seems to be the website's hosting,

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:16 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: > This is what I see when I open the website with an IP from Iran. We have > the same problem with other websites hosted on GCE and similar products. > Google's search engine, Gmail, etc. are fine. > Ouch. My mistake. And, like you, I'm

Re: LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:42 AM Omid Mo'menzadeh wrote: > Hello all. > I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a > shot here, and see where I should report this. > The problem seems to be the website's hosting, which appears to be > provided by Google, which blocks

LilyPond website is not available in some countries

2021-11-02 Thread Omid Mo'menzadeh
Hello all. I'm not sure if this is the right list to post this, but I'll give it a shot here, and see where I should report this. The problem seems to be the website's hosting, which appears to be provided by Google, which blocks access from certain countries in accordance with US law (with the

Re: LilyPond website and HTTPS support

2019-01-02 Thread Karlin High
On 1/2/2019 5:35 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: Are there any plans to make lilypond.org accessible via HTTPS? now that Let's Encrypt is around I expect that is a question for Han-Wen Nienhuys, who seems to control the lilypond.org website hosting.

LilyPond website and HTTPS support

2019-01-02 Thread Tyler Mitchell
Hi, Are there any plans to make lilypond.org accessible via HTTPS? Now Chrome is marking HTTP-only sites as "Not secure", and perhaps other browsers will follow suit. I think historically there was a cost barrier to obtaining an SSL certificate, but now that Let's Encrypt is around, this should

Re: Should the LilyPond website mention financial support for contributors?

2018-11-09 Thread Tim McNamara
There’ve been many discussions about how to manage funding and contributing especially for those of us who cannot contribute to the coding. The Lilypond project doesn’t have any administration or central organization to be responsible for soliciting, collecting, accounting for and distributing

Re: Should the LilyPond website mention financial support for contributors?

2018-11-09 Thread Saul Tobin
I support all of these suggestions. My own two cents: I would like to contribute monthly, but I'd personally prefer to contribute to the project as a whole or the core developers as a group, if possible. It seems like it could be helpful to set project-level finances up in the long run anyway,

Should the LilyPond website mention financial support for contributors?

2018-11-09 Thread Karlin High
From recent thread: I was following the LilyPond community for quite a while before realizing that financially supporting developers was a thing. The most obvious pages on the website, "Sponsoring" and "Help us" say

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-09-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:28 AM David Kastrup wrote: > > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:24 PM Simon Albrecht > > wrote: > >> > >> On 16.08.2018 23:37, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > >> > Well, currently, it's coming out of the $300 new user credit that > >> > Google offers

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-09-07 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:24 PM Simon Albrecht wrote: >> >> On 16.08.2018 23:37, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> > Well, currently, it's coming out of the $300 new user credit that >> > Google offers to new cloud users. $300 is enough to keep it running >> > for a year or

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-09-07 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:24 PM Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 16.08.2018 23:37, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > Well, currently, it's coming out of the $300 new user credit that > > Google offers to new cloud users. $300 is enough to keep it running > > for a year or two. > > This sounds slightly

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-09-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
. >> >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Saul Tobin >> >> To: Lilypond-User Mailing List >> >

Re: Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
and fixing this... >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Phil Holmes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> >> >> From: Saul Tobin >

Re: Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-10 Thread Ralph Palmer
.. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Phil Holmes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message - > >> > >> From: Saul Tobin > >> > >> To: Lilypond-User Mailing List > >> > >

Re: Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-10 Thread Simon Albrecht
ote: >> >> It's hosted by Google these days, so I assume they have a means of >> monitoring and fixing this... >> >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> >>   >> >>   >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From:

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-10 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
> - Original Message - > *From:* Saul Tobin > *To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2018 6:37 PM > *Subject:* Lilypond website down? > > Looks like Lilypond.org has been down since yesterday. > > -- > > __

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-08 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Phil, Google? Isn't that a commercial service? Who pays for it? Andrew On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 05:40, Phil Holmes wrote: > It's hosted by Google these days, so I assume they have a means of > monitoring and fixing this... > > ___ lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-08 Thread Karlin High
g List <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2018 6:37 PM *Subject:* Lilypond website down? Looks like Lilypond.org has been down since yesterday. In the meantime... <https://web.archive.org/web/20180804000219/http://lilypond.org/> -- Karlin

Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-08-08 Thread Phil Holmes
It's hosted by Google these days, so I assume they have a means of monitoring and fixing this... -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Saul Tobin To: Lilypond-User Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 6:37 PM Subject: Lilypond website down? Looks like

Lilypond website down?

2018-08-08 Thread Saul Tobin
Looks like Lilypond.org has been down since yesterday. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-03-03 Thread Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: New LilyPond website If I have a patch for an update of the css for the existing site, where can I submit it? -- John Roper Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist Boston MA, USA http://jmroper.com

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-03-03 Thread John Roper
If I have a patch for an update of the css for the existing site, where can I submit it? -- John Roper Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist Boston MA, USA http://jmroper.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Paul
On 02/22/2017 02:14 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote: What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library dependencies, etc.), one that offers

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote: > What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up > with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library > dependencies, etc.), one that offers responsive design for smaller screens, > etc.

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Urs Liska
Am 22.02.2017 um 16:06 schrieb Christ van Willegen: > Hi, > > Op 22 feb. 2017 11:20 schreef >: > > Using a subdomain as proposed (live.lilypond.org > ), the whole lilybin stuff could be > outsourced to a different

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, Op 22 feb. 2017 11:20 schreef : Using a subdomain as proposed (live.lilypond.org), the whole lilybin stuff could be outsourced to a different server ... finding someone who provides this possibility/server is another story. I have a NAS that I could make accessible to the

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread marc
rom: tisimst To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:55 PM Subject: Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website] On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Phil Holmes-2 [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]> wrote:  Lilypond.org gets aroun

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2017-02-22 um 10:49 schrieb Phil Holmes : > We have a policy of not using server CPU for processing on lilypond.org, > because it's donated to us at no cost - so I don't think lilybin could be > hosted on the lilypond.org site. But live.lilypond.org could point at the

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Phil Holmes
, February 21, 2017 4:55 PM Subject: Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website] On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Phil Holmes-2 [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]> wrote:  Lilypond.org gets around 700 sessions per day, according to Google analytics. -- Phil

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-21 Thread tisimst
il.jtp?type=node=200317=3> ; [hidden email] > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node=200317=4> > *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 3:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website] > > I'm primarily responsible for LilyBin. A year or so ago, Timothy Gu >

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-20 Thread Phil Holmes
[WAS: New LilyPond website] I'm primarily responsible for LilyBin. A year or so ago, Timothy Gu (copied) and I got LilyPond running in AWS Lambda, which should be able to handle plenty of traffic. I get 266,667 seconds of free computation time per month from Amazon. We used 38,094 seconds

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-20 Thread Trevor
I'm primarily responsible for LilyBin. A year or so ago, Timothy Gu (copied) and I got LilyPond running in AWS Lambda, which should be able to handle plenty of traffic. I get 266,667 seconds of free computation time per month from Amazon. We used 38,094 seconds in January for 18,398 requests,

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-19 Thread Paul
Forgot the Haunt static site generator link: https://haunt.dthompson.us/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-19 Thread Paul
On 02/14/2017 01:50 AM, Graham Percival wrote: If we switched from texinfo to a different static website generator, I suspect it would be pelican, gitbook, or hugo -- existing projects with thousands of users and a thriving developer community. Haunt is also interesting, from a minimizing

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 14 feb 2017 alle 7:50, Graham Percival ha scritto: I would be very surprised if LilyPond ever switched to Blended -- that would be increasing our technical debt, not reducing it. If we switched from texinfo to a different static website generator, I

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 05:04:07PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il giorno gio 9 feb 2017 alle 0:11, John Roper ha > scritto: > >Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on > >http://jmroper.com/lilypond > > > >I am keeping the source for the website in >

translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 9 feb 2017 alle 0:11, John Roper ha scritto: Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on http://jmroper.com/lilypond I am keeping the source for the website in https://github.com/johnroper100/LilyPond-Web-Redesign Hi John Before adding

Re: LilyBin embedded [WAS: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 13 feb 2017 alle 8:59, David Kastrup ha scritto: John Roper writes: For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If not I am not going to bother to try. Maybe crosscheck with the lilybin site owner? I

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed > lilybin? If not I am not going to bother to try. Maybe crosscheck with the lilybin site owner? I seem to vaguely remember that we don't link to it from the current LilyPond page

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi John I think that, as long as lilypond runs on lilybin server, embedding lilybin is ok.Il 13 feb 2017 01:39 John Roper ha scritto: > > For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If > not I am not going to bother to try. > > On Sun, Feb

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If not I am not going to bother to try. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 13.02.2017 00:52, John Roper wrote: > >> I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.02.2017 00:52, John Roper wrote: I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin integration. I marvel at your persistence and interest. Thanks a lot! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin integration. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
On Feb 10, 2017 7:54 AM, "Johan Vromans" wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:51:05 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote: > The ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Johan Vromans
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:51:05 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote: > The new page is about 1.3 MB while the original one is about 170 kB > Factor of 7.x This is due to CSS/JS overhead and happens only once. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Michael Gerdau
> in total. After enabling scripts this problem vanishes. > > In Vivaldi I don't see the background image at the top of the page > at all. > > > I test using all major browsers including Vivaldi (my main browser) and > I am not getting any of these issues. Hmm. What is that to

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:32:18 -0800, "H. S. Teoh" wrote: > I don't speak for anyone else, but I'm perfectly OK with using > Javascript -- as long as it's not *required* for the website to be > usable at all. And all necessary javascript is loaded from the site itself, not

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Marc Mouries
+ 1 to include lilybin not just a link but include the ability to try lilypond directly from the browser without having to open another window. Like the Haskell or like the ruby lang website ( https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ see the link on the right "Try Ruby") . 2 user stories 1. a ) as a

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
> > in total. After enabling scripts this problem vanishes. > > In Vivaldi I don't see the background image at the top of the page at all. > I test using all major browsers including Vivaldi (my main browser) and I am not getting any of these issues. -- John Roper Freelance Developer and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Michael Gerdau
> Ok, I changed the image to something that made more sense. What do you > guys think about everything else? I've looked at it with current versions of Firefox and Vivaldi: On Firefox without allowing scripts all the boxes "Download 2.18.2", "Release Notes" at the top are partly overlapping and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 23:50, u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Urs Best user that and why for this page to be viewed JavaScript has to be switched on. requires JavaScript but has a decent option, telling the What I can imagine would work well is that a given "Try it out" page for the website to work

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:34:38PM -0500, John Roper wrote: >Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because >most of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but >did not bring it up. I would love to though. > >On Feb 9, 2017 5:12 PM, "Bernardo

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 17:34, John Roper wrote: > Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because most > of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but did > not bring it up. I would love to though. I think as long as the website has a fallback option without js, and js

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because most of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but did not bring it up. I would love to though. On Feb 9, 2017 5:12 PM, "Bernardo Barros" wrote: > lilybin.com could be included into the

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
lilybin.com could be included into the official website as part of its new design. Something like "Try it - Type Haskell expressions in here" in Haskell website https://www.haskell.org/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Marc Mouries
a MacOS app for lilypond and I know how much work it is. So one think I'd like to see more visible in the lilypond website is the power of Lilypond's scripting capabilities. I'd like to see featured examples from the LSR ( Lilypond Snippet Repository: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Browse) that show

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 08:35, Mats Behre wrote: On 2017-02-09 07:41, Werner LEMBERG wrote: . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. I would actually recommend not specifying a specific font at all. This leaves the font selection to the user (and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 14:52, David Kastrup wrote: John Roper writes: The standard human does not want to read that much text. Which makes the standard human unsuitable for working with LilyPond Taking everything literally is not going to help communication, David. The

Re: Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Mats Behre
On 2017-02-09 07:41, Werner LEMBERG wrote: . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. I would actually recommend not specifying a specific font at all. This leaves the font selection to the user (and we will not have to debate the choice

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
I just pushed a new version of Blended which allows you to get other (HTML) file contents as variables. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
> > It's also worth noting that only part of a website's job is to garner > initial interest (and it requires referals to be found in the first > place). Another is as a portal for people who already know what > LilyPond is and want to get work done. I belive that my design does both. The

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > I changed the header size to be smaller. As for the overall design, again, > the front page of the website is supposed to make the user want to take a > look at it. A design such as this does that while a page full of serif text > and two images does

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread ul
;>>> Indeed, sigh. This is one of the reasons I don't like working with >>>> HTML. Hopefully Blended can be improved to completely hide such >>>> issues for Joe User. > > Yet the current LilyPond website is not responsive and does not work > with m

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
eed, sigh. This is one of the reasons I don't like working with > >>HTML. Hopefully Blended can be improved to completely hide such > >>issues for Joe User. > Yet the current LilyPond website is not responsive and does not work with mobile (or some desktops). Yep. I was tag

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:44:58 +0100 (CET), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > What I want is the explicit command line that I > have to call to convert the input data in the git repository to the > output html, where to expect the output files, etc., so that I can > actually try to generate

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux there's *no* problem. >> >>Indeed, sigh. This is one of the reasons I don't like working with >>HTML. Hopefully Blended can be improved to completely hide such >>issues for Joe User. > > I assume this doesn't have anything to do with Blender (or

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.02.2017 um 09:44 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> . At the top, I get something like the attached image (using >>> Chrome), regardless of the magnification. This looks bad. Isn't >>> it possible to have the button size changed dynamically? >> Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> . At the top, I get something like the attached image (using >> Chrome), regardless of the magnification. This looks bad. Isn't >> it possible to have the button size changed dynamically? > > Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux there's *no* problem. Indeed, sigh. This is one of

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Urs Liska
Hi John, Am 09.02.2017 um 07:41 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >> Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond Thanks for putting this up, it's very helpful to have it that way. Of course you will probably get 20 different opinions from 15 users and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on > http://jmroper.com/lilypond Thanks. First, some comments regarding the layout. . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. . At the top, I get something like the attached image

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Shane Brandes
The opening page is over 50% header vertically. The rest of the pages seem decently proportioned. The 1px grey lines around the music examples might be nicer not present at all. Did I ever mention how much sans serif in block text is irritating. Yes I was going to make a suggestion for a nice

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread John Roper
Ok, I changed the image to something that made more sense. What do you guys think about everything else? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > John Roper writes: > >>> >>> >> John, can you set up >>> >> >>> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ >>> >> >>> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the >>> >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 00:11, John Roper wrote: Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on http://jmroper.com/lilypond Of course there would be much to do on the details (e.g. I also don’t much fancy the title image with the violinist), but since this is about the design, I’ve got to

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: >> >> >> John, can you set up >> >> >> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ >> >> >> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the >> >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I >> >> think only a direct

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