Re: Odd output

2010-12-25 Thread Keith OHara
Hello, Jan. The article you pointed out earlier, by J-P Coulon, was more useful than anything I could find. The handbook from the Music Publishers Association of the United States, by contrast, has some mistakes -- such as putting the key cancellation /after/ the new key signature; we in

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org; Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Odd output On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: The version that Chappell

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com To: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com Cc: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Odd output On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Michael Ellis
...@gmail.com To: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com Cc: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Odd output On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: I am not a vocal specialist but just using this one

Re: Odd output

2010-12-18 Thread Phil Holmes
: Saturday, December 18, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks Phil, I'm curious about the vocal part. Why is the stemming different than the piano reduction? As written, it indicates SAA division on the first chord and SSS (no Alto!) on the second. This may seem trivial and skilled

Docs: automatic accidentals (was: Odd output)

2010-12-18 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:46:24 -0500 James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#Known-issues-and-warnings-30 PS To anyone else who knows, if this known issue does apply in this case, thenit might be a good idea to not use the

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Keith OHara
Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes: From: Marco Correia marco.v.correia at gmail.com \include english.ly { \clef treble \time 4/4 { fs'4 } \\ { f'4 } This was one of the first issues I raised, in June this year. I think it was my first bug report:

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes: From: Marco Correia marco.v.correia at gmail.com \include english.ly { \clef treble

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Keith OHara
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: The version that Chappell uses in the Mikado is attached. Nice. It does break the usual rules about horizontal placement, and about when to cancel accidentals in another voice. But, with the beaming to clarify the

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Michael Ellis
+1 for option C Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:09:10 -0800, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: The version that Chappell uses in the Mikado is attached. Nice. It does break the usual rules about horizontal

RE: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread James Lowe
Hello, -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Michael Ellis Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 21:50 To: Keith OHara Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Odd output +1 for option C Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Keith OHara k

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Michael Ellis
Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Michael Ellis Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 21:50 To: Keith OHara Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Odd output +1 for option C Cheers, Mike On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net

Re: Odd output

2010-12-17 Thread Neil Puttock
On 17 December 2010 23:09, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: I am not a vocal specialist but just using this one simplistic example of C seems erroneous. Isn't the idea of the notes printed at the same moment to show that they need to be sung at the same moment if you see what I

issue classification was: Odd output

2010-12-12 Thread Jan Warchoł
Hi all, 2010/12/10 Marco Correia marco.v.corr...@gmail.com: Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music. The output is not ugly - it

Re: issue classification was: Odd output

2010-12-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com To: marco.v.corr...@gmail.com Cc: Lilypond Bugreports bug-lilyp...@gnu.org; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: issue classification was: Odd output Hi all, 2010/12/10 Marco

Re: issue classification was: Odd output

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Ellis
FWIW, Finale 2010 *does* support this if you put the notes in separate layers (voices), add a courtesy accidental to the natural note, and fiddle with the Accidental Mover and Note Position gui tools. It doesn't do the right thing by default, though. Image attached. So if pride in LilyPond's

Re: issue classification was: Odd output

2010-12-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
FWIW, Finale 2010 *does* support this if you put the notes in separate layers (voices), add a courtesy accidental to the natural note, and fiddle with the Accidental Mover and Note Position gui tools. It doesn't do the right thing by default, though. Image attached. Well, *manually* you

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Marco Correia marco.v.corr...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:35 AM Subject: Odd output Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making some mistake. When compiling this example: \include

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Tim McNamara
Isn't there a missing to pair with the ? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marc Mouries
You get 2 stems because you created 2 voices with the signs and \\ see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple-voices.html What are you trying to compose? On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Marco Correia wrote: Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marco Correia
think this problem deserves more consideration. Thank you! Marco On Friday 10 December 2010, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Marco Correia marco.v.corr...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:35 AM Subject: Odd output Hi, I just

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
m...@philholmes.net Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: Re: Odd output You get 2 stems because you created 2 voices with the signs and \\ see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Multiple-voices.html What are you trying to compose? On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:35 PM

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Phil Holmes
, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Odd output Why not set one of the notes to a different enharmonic pitch? It's certainly much kinder to the musician who's trying to play the composition. \include english.ly { \clef treble \time 4/4 { fs'4 } \\ { es'4 } } Cheers

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread James Bailey
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
his final comment - could use a Gb but shouldn't. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From:* Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com *To:* LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Friday, December 10, 2010 5:18 PM *Subject:* Re: Odd output Why not set one of the notes

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Michael Ellis
: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music. The output is not ugly

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread James Bailey
marco.v.corr...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Ellis michael.f.el...@gmail.com writes: Yes! Spelling does count because poorly spelled music is much harder to read. I'm somewhat less convinced regarding sonic differences on untempered instruments because the matter is more complicated than that, e.g G# as the leading tone to A is

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Marco Correia
, December 10, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Odd output Thanks! I can't believe that this is seen as a low priority enhancement...! This completely renders lilypond unusable for the task I need it, which is to serve as a printer for computer generated music. The output is not ugly

Re: Odd output

2010-12-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/10/10 8:27 PM, Marco Correia marco.v.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I didn't want to sound rude or anything. I just want to make a point that I do not consider this as a minor improvement since: 1. The output is not aestetically wrong, it is definitely readable differently from

Odd output

2010-12-09 Thread Marco Correia
Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making some mistake. When compiling this example: \include english.ly { \clef treble \time 4/4 { fs'4 } \\ { f'4 } } I see two notes on fs (occupying the same position but with stems up and down). There is no

RE: Odd output

2010-12-09 Thread James Lowe
Hello -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Marco Correia Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 0:35 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Odd output Hi, I just started using lilypond, so it is very possible that I'm making some mistake. When